A man who worked for Sportsnet is fired from his job cus he stood by his beliefs & said he supports the traditional family. What do the homosexual bullies do? They threaten his wife, his children & him with death & now constantly harrass him. A priest gives a sermon to those with faith, what do the bullies do? They storm the church, shout profanity at children & fornicate on the alter. A student says he thinks being gay is not natural. Homobully teacher has him suspended. They are bullies...
Homomanipulative science would have you believe that homosex is natural cus on occassion, there are some in the animal kingdom that may have fucked the same sex in captivity or in the wild. There's no strictly gay animal anywhere, not one. It is not natural at all. If an animal rapes another, is rape now natural for humans? If one kills n eats their babies, are we now to believe it's completely natural for humans & promote it? No. Sick individuals can manipulate all they want, but their still BS
Homosexuality is not natural. Just look at homosexual suicides. Every cell in their body is screaming that they are a man for a woman n vice versa, but douchbags on a propaganda campaign to turn children into the next gen homosexuals warp their minds with crap like gaga, pop culture, homocurriculum & more. They are confused to say the least. The suicides are not from bullying, it's from trying to be gay in the first place. A good reason to stop promoting homosex to children. Leave them alone
Homosexuality is bad for society because it's acceptance AS AN INSTITUTION creates an allegiance to the same political instability and left wing ideology that created the label in the first place; the motivation beneath which were to create this allegiance. And so all people who enjoy gay exchanges have to decide for themselves if ACKNOWLEDGEMENT is important enough to them to warrant the mass genocide that comes along with tyranny.
@X3BOOODYX2012 With homosexuality the fertility rate is going down? What the hell are you talking about? Have you not noticed the world's population has been increasing exponentially? We have 7 billion people on this planet in the year 2012. There were only 6 billion in the year 2000.
We gained 1 billion people in 12 years.
Fertility rate going down? You don't even bother looking at facts before you say things, do you?
Homosexuality is natural because it occurs in nature.
look up for EU, and US rates, under 20, while in other nations like China, India, Mid East, they have it above 7.0, they are the ones extremly helped in raising it up.
Natural? of course! like flu! it's a natural ill! isn't it?
as well as homosexuallity :) homosexuals don't help increasing the level of fertility.
your saying some males are born females, I believe you, but how about who #### them? sorry... but I'm still wonderring...
@X3BOOODYX2012 Countries in Europe are under 2.0, but so is China. China is at 1.73 too. The vast majority of countries over 2.0 are poor South American, Arab, and Asian countries, and the countries with fertility rates way over 2.0 are the extremely poor African countries.
America is over 2.0.
Yes, homosexuality and the flu are both natural. How are they not? And just because they're both natural, that means they're both illnesses? You're not making much sense.
@X3BOOODYX2012 Homosexuals don't help increase the level of fertility.... so? Why do we need more people? The population is increasing exponentially. We'll soon have an overpopulation problem, like some countries already have, but it will be a worldwide overpopulation problem, and you're sitting here talking about how bad homosexuality is because it doesn't make more babies that we obviously don't need.
So what are you arguing? That we desperately need more people?
what? buddy, if a man and a women only have a single child that means their rate is 0.50 two, 1.00, three, 1.50, four, 2.00. and they made a study, if a nation has a rate of 1.60 and below, their culture will be taken out, and a new culture will be the replacement, not at the exact moment, but after dew decades.
lastly, I don't like homos because they're misusing sexual organs, the main purpose is to reproduce, entertainment is number two.
@X3BOOODYX2012 No, if a woman has 1 child, then her fertility rate is 1. The average fertility rate in America is 2.1. Does that mean the average woman in America has 4 kids? No.
You don't lie homos because they don't make children? So you also don't like heteros who don't make children?
So you just don't like people who don't make children? What a stupid reason to dislike people.
ahh, now look at this, the women reproduces egg cells with 23 chromosomes, men does the same but they got sperm cells. in other words, she needs a man after all.
what?!! under 2.0? it's above 8! everyone here in Saudi Arabia has above five children, I have 2 brothers and three sisters.
america has 1.6~1.7, also you said a whole billion in 12ys? in 6ys from 24million to 32million my country went up, lol, my father had 8 brothers.
@X3BOOODYX2012 What's above 8? China's fertility rate? No it's not, I just looked.
Yes, gays have zero children. Some use artificial insemination. But let's say gays have no children, so what? Why does it matter? Do we need more people?
gays(no matter what their sexual intrests are) STILL can ejaculate, over 10% of the USA are gays. not just because your a feminist male, doesn't make you have to be gay, you're part of this society, go do your job, rather than wasting pedophiles' juice, feminism doesn't necessarily affects the man's sex. only when you don't have balls then we'll give you an excuse. those gays could raise the american rate 10% more, go check again and compare between saudia and america.
@X3BOOODYX2012 Survival of a group of people can't be set at a specific fertility rate. The higher the population, the lower the fertility rate has to be for that group of people to survive. The lower the population, the higher the fertility rate has to be. So your 1.6 figure doesn't make sense.
I don't serve anybody. I do my own thing. If I don't want to have kids, I don't have to. It's a free country. You wouldn't know about that living under Sharia Law.
a society of 2000 men, 2000 women, every man has a wife, and every familiy has one child. so they have 1000 child, who are representing the next genereation. the rest(as normally) dies.
lmao the word "sharia" is an original arabic word, and it actually means "law" in english,
so your saying : law law? that doesn't make any sense, if you meant islamic law, then that's it. what's wrong with it? kills homos? they deserv
@X3BOOODYX2012 2000 men and 2000 women have 2.5 children each on average, so they have 5000 children, those 5000 children have 12,500 children, those 12,500 children have 31,250 children. See how the population exponentially grows? We don't need that.
And Sharia Law is not how a civil society operates, that's why you people are behind in everything.
Gays deserve to die? Because your evil god says so? Your religion is dying because humans are getting smarter and abandoning it.
there's a purpose sex which is higher than your own personal will, regardless of your faith.
not all cultures dislike them? oh yeah, that explains why ALL homosexuals I've ever met in my lifetime are actually atheists.
lol look at who's talking about science, atheism is something and science is something else. atheism is like religion; lifestyle, which is a resuilt of dis/believing in something. you're discussing another topic
@X3BOOODYX2012 So if gays not being the majority isn't the reason they deserve to die, then why did you say that? What does that have to do with anything? And if that's not the reason, then what's the reason they deserve to die?
Sex is higher than personal will? What are you talking about?
What does gays being atheists have to do with cultures around the world disliking them?
Atheism is nothing like religion. You were born an atheist. You can't be born a Muslim.
born atheist... yeah right, let me explain something to you, any human on earth, naturally due to his high intellegent thinking must morship something, idol, god, his own life.
I wasn't born atheist, I was born like every human else, I believer. who is smarter? the person who thinks this world was an accident, or the one who thinks this world has a beginning, we're out of the topic, but you dragged us out of it.
btw gays are innatural. don't compare us to animals.
who's insane? you're intending to ask a 2 years old child thatt lacks of understanding? he WOULDN'T speak, but if you left a human alone, without taking care of him but protecting him without his awareness of you... he will belief that there's a god, how do you think some man-made religions started? as such as buddism, and hindus. they're worshipping material-based gods, it's a human nature.
yeah they're natural, just like saying you're dating your mom is...
@X3BOOODYX2012 You said you're born believing in god, and now you're saying you would EVENTUALLY start believing there's a god with no outside influence.
So you're changing your story. So you admit you are born an atheist.
And you have no evidence that someone left to their own devices would start believing in a god. Just because most cultures believe in a god, doesn't mean anything. A lot of cultures believe in dragons and other monsters too.
@X3BOOODYX2012 Homosexuality is natural because it occurs in nature. You have yet to explain how it's unnatural. And how natural and unnatural means anything. It's unnatural to take medicine to fight illness. It's unnatural to have surgery to save your life. What does saying something is unnatural prove anyway? That it's wrong? So since unnatural things are wrong, then it's wrong for doctors to even exist.
you're an idiot, I didn't say it's unnatural, only christians say that...
but yes it's wrong, because it's actually an ill. as what it was said in the video, "parts don't fit", infact it's a form of masturbation, but worse. masturbation is natural, but it's prohibited because you wont bare children from it. also sex is natural , but the illegal sex is prohibited. because it has many sequences: mixing family tree; and that causes the loss of the money, etc...etc...
because you're an idiot, when you screw up your family tree by having an illegal child from an illegal sex, he'll take your legacy after your death, because he's your son(and your sin).
it's quiet-simple, but atheists like you(who claim that they take care of science more than anyone else) are dumber even than their own atheist ideoligies.
you just want to live your pathetic mortal life passing the borders.
god is proven to those who THINK. not for blind animals.
@X3BOOODYX2012 Having an illegal child from an illegal sex? What the hell are you talking about? Are you saying if two men have a child together, then that's an illegal child from an illegal sex? Are you crazy?
God is proven to no one. You may say he's proven to you, but you can say anything if you don't have to prove it. You can say you're the strongest man in the world. Why should I believe you?
what the hell are YOU talking about?! when you die and you didn't put any wills, who's going to take your money? your LIGET family, it's not supposed to be taken from a bastard who was a mistake made by you, he's not the mistaken but you.
my whole point was to clear that lonely homosexuals can end their family tree in a bad "peaceful" way without having wars, etc...
not proven? are you bullcrapin? this "natural process" can't start alone...
can everything start from zero? -possible; but it also could not because it cannot be multiplied.
can ........... infinitely? no: because that means it will start from minus infinite, and timeline cannot be even counted in minus, because it's not a directional force, exactly like space and lengh.
can .......... infinitely after zero? yes.
even the natural numbers(N)={1,2,3,4,.....} named like that.
it's actually Phyics that I was talking about, and if you look at the Islamic concept of a god, you'll notice it doesn't deny the science of physics and mathmatics, but the issue, is with the close-minded biologist atheists as such as darwin and dawkins, yes, it's a theory, but it can't stand alone, neither the intellegence design as well. but it requires both to make that natural process. they did a great a job, but evolution isn't enough to explain how we became.
@X3BOOODYX2012 Intelligent design is useless. Saying "god did it" is just an answer that people use until the real answer is proven. Evolution explains exactly what evolution is supposed to explain; the change of life over time. What does it fail to explain? The origin of life? It's not supposed to explain that, because the origin of life has nothing to do with evolution.
it has a big mistake, bro. how did the bacteria came in the first place? H2O, how about the H2O? chemical reactions, how about the subsistances? the "big bang", how about the big bang? "Atheist Scientists":We don't know YET.
and put in your mind, this is the Natural World, with its Natural Process.
so it can't be infinitive, neither from zero.
evolution is based on an accedint, and you're coming to say "no accedints, just natural process".
@X3BOOODYX2012 How did bacteria come in the first place? I don't know.
Water is just elements combining to satisfy the octet rule.
Natural processes can't be infinite? How do you know? Explain this to me using your physics knowledge.
And the universe can't begin from nothing? Explain it to me using your physics knowledge, since you must have extensive physics knowledge for you to be able to say that.
Evolution is not based on an accident. What accident are you talking about?
what? didn't you take in "school" in the subject "Science"(primary school). this law? it's a very common basical law. by the way, I think you didn't know what we're talking about, it TIME not energy. "Natural Process".
I already showed you that law already. examples? momentusl, impulse, and in chemistry, equations have the same law.
hah, that law confirms that energy didn't become from zero. there must be an amount of energy to begin with, or NO evolution, no intellegent design, or even natural process.
physics is about thinking, not like biology, even in my school's exams, biology takes so much effort because it depends on my memory more than my intellegence.
looks like we've rootl changed the subject, thanks to you. -_-
Do you also not like people who use screwdrivers to open a tin of beans? Also, who determines what something should or should not be used for? Sounds like an opinion and not something objectively determinable to me.
@X3BOOODYX2012 There's an important question to answer here. How do you determine what the correct use of something is? A screwdriver is for loosening or tightening screws, yet is my example I suggest using it for a task which it was not designed for. If we are going to deem homosexuality wrong by the arguement that it is a misuse of sexual organs, then this suggests that it is also morally wrong to use a screwdriver to open a tin.
well it's very obvious, the biggest consequence is not having kids. and by that there also other consequences, you may cut down your own family tree, or slow down the birth rate which lowers the pupolation. the homosexuality delusion is purely for entertainment. and I bet that you are gay 60% or atheist 40%. or even both.
@X3BOOODYX2012 'the biggest consequence is not having kids'
Some heterosexuals choose not to have children and some are sterile or otherwise incapable of having them.
'...or slow down the birth rate which lowers the pupolation.'
The birth rate is quite high and since the precentage of homosexuals is low, it would not drop significantly. We have quite a big population and it wouldn't hurt for it to level out a little.
'the homosexuality delusion is purely for entertainment'
@aMidnightBreeze ...homosexuals find it entertaining considering how difficult and painful it is to live like that with all the prejudice against them. Seems like the least fun thing to be.
'and I bet that you are gay 60% or atheist 40%. or even both'
Assumptions don't get you anywhere and I'd recommend avoiding them and keeping to the reasoning. I'm an atheist, but I'm not gay. Though both these points are irrelevant to this discussion. You may have heard of the phrase 'Ad Hominem' and I...
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Actually, that's not *entirely* true. Genetic research shows that there is a strong correllation between genetic factors associated with homosexuality in males and increased fertility in female relatives. In other words, female relatives of homosexuals - sharing some of the genes that are associated with homosexuality - are slightly more fertile than average.
@thecrazymuzician1 Are you seriously brainwashed by the liberal media? FemiNAZIS are the scum of the earth. Lesbians are just as bad. Stay away from my kids you disgusting pervert.
@FollowHisWill Noone will make your kids gay. If your kid is gay they are gay. Noones fault. Deal with it. People like you make me laugh. Lesbians (me) are NORMAL people!
@TheGinnyhp "Jesus" is the biggest bad guy in human history. He's led to so many millions of deaths. Murder from fundamentalists, suicide from discrimination, medical inhibition (preventing research into genetics and stem cell research to cure cancer and disease), death from disease (condoms, prohibited knowledge of safe sex) and most importantly.. War. If Christianity had never existed the world would be such a better place.
To the homomilitants n their brainwashed advocates that force children to be taught homosex in Public n Catholic schools, regardless of the Right to Freedom of Religion or Parental Rights, to you that storm Churches calling children in Church haters, etc for not accepting homosexuality, to you that equate the Civil Rights Movement of blacks to that of homosexuality... Shame on you. Hey wanna be gay, go ahead, u were born that way. N as such, naturally, 2men or 2woman together can not have kids
What homsexual advocates fail to realize is that they are pawns in the game. Homosexuals can have a legal marriage in many states n provinces,The United Church is willing to marry Transexuals. To force a priest or anyone else to marry two transexuals or face discrimination charges is wrong. We have a Right to our Beliefs, Our Opinions, etc. If it becomes Criminal to have an opinion, a belief, we're all in trouble.
John Corvino has stolen the words right out of my mouth. I don't care what the Bible says, because when it comes down to it, it's purely a civil rights issue. Even if I was a devout Christian who devoted every waking moment of my life to practicing the word of God, I would still support of LGBT civil rights. Why? Because the Constitution states that no law should be made with regard or intent to cater to a given religion. Plain and simple. Religion and government are separate entities.
......but, hey, I have changed my life for the better; I am vegetarian, no alcohol, coffee, tea, tobacco, no sugar, and because I am hypersensitive to milk and cereal products, I have other options. Furthermore, I have changed the religion, Yess! It came as a natural consequence of the abuse I suffered in the Church. And I am soooooo happy, but still depressed.
...Says one who still can't sleep at night and suffers from severe depression because of the exorcism and ex-gay therapy I went through in mid 90s. Enough is enough.
@historypoliticsbb Seriously? Sodomy & homosexuality may be in the same level, but masturbation is on a lower level and bestiality is on a higher level of unacceptability, up there is incest and paedophilia (though, the latter may be even higher).
Homosexuality is not natural. It's a fact. I understand why people don't get it. They are being brainwashed by homomilitants to believe that there are strictly gay animals, a gay gene, n that "you are born that way". It's all BS. They try to force their lifestyle on our children n blast religion with hatred n intolerance. They want to force men/women against their beliefs n will to accept homosexuality. They want to force priests to marry them. The militants are sick n they laugh at all of us
@CanadianIndependence But is occurs in nature all the time. THAT'S a fact. It's not anymore of a choice than being straight is. And don't heterosexuals force THEIR lifestyle on children? How many times do you see heterosexuals making out or holding hands? Churches have the right to refuse ANY marriage. Gays only want legal marriage. Nobody is forcing you to accept homosexuality, they only want equality. Your comment is full of double standards.
@TheSparky777 You are ill informed to say the least. A man n a woman is natural, that's how you were born, two men or two women alone can not have children. How can you not accept that reality? People all over the World are being prosecuted for not accepting homosexuality n standing up for their beliefs. Gays have equality, they are not victims, they are bully's. Homomilitants are forcing their lifestyle "choice" onto kids. You haven't got a clue
@CanadianIndependence Whether or not two men or women can or can't have children on their own, the fact that homosexuality is observed in over 1000 species makes it natural, because it occurs in NATURE. 10% of the population are bullies? Seriously? You also seem to think that homosexuality is contagious. Teaching kids that some people are gay won't make anyone homosexual, it will make them tolerant. The hate against gay people is what's unnatural.
@TheSparky777 Um no, the last sentence is contradicting, because hatred occurs in society too, thus by your logic it has to be natural too. You know what else is observed in animals though...eating poop, eating their young, and killing each other. Natural good stuff, huh.
@evanstoler I'm not seeing your point. You're saying homosexuality is unnatural by pointing out other things that are natural? I'm simply addresing the argument that homosexuality is unnatural, which its not. Let me clarify my last sentence, I meant that humans seem to be the only species that has a problem with homosexuality. There's just no reason to hate someone because of who they are attracted to. It's not like people choose who they are attracted to.
@evanstoler I would also like to point out that animals do not eat their young unless they are in an extremely stressful situation. Homosexuality on the other hand occurs in over 1000 species in any situation
@CanadianIndependence SCIENTIFIC fact: Homosexuality is actually common through out elephants, lions, cats etc. you're telling me homos aren't natural? The word "Natural" means something consciously man made.Gay people are born gay, their dads dont actually rearrange theyre genes to make'em gay. Gay people ARE born homo, churches CANNOT change that. The gender of people you love does not have to do with will. it has to do with GENETICS. Go ahead, try to prove me wrong with the bible BRING IT ON
@NO You spout untrue, unproven homoscience bullshit. I've read so many papers on homosexuality in nature, n not one study is proven without a doubt. I've heard people far more educated than yourself who advocate for homosexuality n try to push the gay animal thing, but even they are intelligent enough to admit that there is not 1 strictly homosexual animal. There is also NOT a GAY GENE. If you discovered it, the World is waiting. LGBT is a choice. Man/Woman/procreation is natural. Homosex is not
@CanadianIndependence Does it really matter if its not natural or not proven by science? The number 1 reason homos are not bad has to do with ethics. Is it really all that ethical to shun somebody who has no choice of their sexual orientation from birth just because the bible says so? Think about that, think from your heart...is it? No, homosexuality is not a choice. Dissagree? if you do, then tell me of one person you know that has ACTUALLY turned from being gay and going back into straight.
@N Well, your homoscience is way off, as is your touch with reality. I suppose it's not your fault for being so ignorant. You want a name of a born gay who went to straight? LOL, easy.. When I give them, then you must admit that being gay is a choice right? Google Michael Glatze, Bill Henson, Donnie McClurkin, Bill Whatcott , youtube vickigoes2washington, and there's lots more. If you have any common sense, you'll see the truth of the matter. Homosexuality is a choice. U got the proof u wanted
"if there is no gay gene"? IF? There is no gay gene, period. What makes a person gay? Nothing makes them gay; it's a choice. Not sure the point you're missing
@CanadianIndependence So you "choose'" to be heterosexual? That's some interesting (and very personal) revealing information there. It's not everyone that could take up a gay lifestyle "just by choice". There are certain kinds of people who could but there are many who could never choose that lifestyle even if there were no members of the opposite sex.
I might be wrong, but one should infer from your position that you are what we call a carrier of the gay gene - bisexual.
@NOSYPOWER You truely are an idiot. You spout shit from your mouth without any scientific proof whatsoever... I suppose it makes sense for you to spout shit from your mouth, seeing as you're homosexual, I would guess that ya like fucking another guy up the ass either before, or in your case, probabely right after he takes a shit, and then somehow it ends up in your mouth, as it reflects on your words that come out thereafter.
@CanadianIndependence Not only did you avoid the question, but you tried to exaggerate it with an assumption with no proof. Can you even prove your self how homosexuality is a choice? Im not too focused right now on the proof i give. But i wanna see the proof YOU have. Prove homosexuality is a choice, do it
@CanadianIndependence Genetics plays a role in homosexuality. Twin studies have proven this. Homosexuality isn't just caused by a gay gene, otherwise identical twins would either ALWAYS be both gay or always be both straight. That's not the case. But there is a higher rate of homosexuality between both identical twins than between fraternal twins, which means there's a genetic component.
@ninjajesus81 I don't give a shit about your random studies with countless variables, or the theory that you or others of the like come up with. You either have proof of a gay gene or the genetics thereof or you don't. In your case, as with others like you, you have no proof that genetics plays any part of it. If you found the gene or the genetic code then why not share it with the rest of the world, otherwise, you're talking nonesense. Saying they are born that way, the burden of proof is on U
@CanadianIndependence It's proven that genetics play a role in homosexuality. Studies done on identical twins show that homosexuality is higher in both identical twins than in fraternal twins. Evidence shows that prenatal hormones also have an effect on the sexuality of the child inside the mother. There's studies that show the more male children a woman has, it becomes more and more likely that the later ones will be gay. There is lots of science for you to ignore here.
@CanadianIndependence you re an idiot. 372 different species of animals engage in homosexuality. you say its not natural? well thats nature right there. And guess what, humans are animals too. And you talk like its a conspiracy but what is there to gain from it other than equal rights? And they target religion because it is religion which imposes its stupid ideals on others.
@GOOdGuyGreg1 No, you're an idiot. Homosexuals are not victims, they've become the bully's that they so hate, it's ironic. Say, if a dog humps your leg, do you then agree that beastiality is natural? A normal person would say no. There is not 1 strictly homosexual animal. A female cat says to a male cat, "no thanks, I only lick pussy". How screwed in the head are you to spout the nonsense that you do. Militants like yourself attack religion, specifically Christians out of hatred.
@CanadianIndependence So the minority is the bully? So all those teens that commit suicide each year as result of bullying because they re gay is just irrelevant? Theres a reason why they have a higher suicide rate - Bigots like you. And no my point wasnt that there is a species that is only gay, thats just stupid. I was merely comparing us to a dickload of other animals that do it and saying 'we re in the same boat' because we are animals too which disproves your statement that 'its unnatural'.
@CanadianIndependence And do you know why Im against religion? Because all of it profits from people's fear of the unknown. If we look at christianity, if it was never preached there would have been no dark ages, no spanish inquisition, no crusades, no oppression against homosexuals. The list goes on and thats just christianity. Im fine with people having faith but if you re arguing on this site then you re not one of them. Just keep it to yourself-what they re doing is legal for a reason.
@CanadianIndependence Everyone is born gay, this is true because you do not just switch from straight to gay in the middle of your life. To make it clearer, I repeat, no environmental factor has ever been demonstrated to cause or to influence either male homosexuality or male heterosexuality. God created everyone himself. in leviticus 20:13 god says he wants homos to die. So does this mean god made gays just to die? No, that makes no sense whatsoever!!
I prove that Homosexuality is not a "sin" for everyone from the Bible in my book, "The Good News: How Revealing Delusions In Christianity Will Bring Peace To All." I prove this from multiple passages in the Bible and I disprove every instance that present-day Christianity uses to back in its anti-homosexual stance. The true message of the Bible is that we should only judge other people on how they treat other people! Check out my videos as I discuss this and more on radio shows across the U.S.!
@mrsulaiman19 Overpopulation is also a threat to a nation's infrastructure as well because it limits the amount of resources that people within a said nation can have and creates general disunity and conflict amongst people of nations, as shown by the current condition of Bangladesh and India when it comes to population. Is a larger population always what we want, assuming that your scenario is somehow right?
Leviticus 18 HAS BEEN MISINTERPRETED. Moses was addressing Shine Prostitution not gay people. The canaanites prayed to a god called Molech. They would sacrifice their children and have sex with male shine prostitutes called Quedesh. They believed it gave them fertility in life. The word Abomination comes from the hebrew word Toevah which referred to Idolatry. God in the bible has always detested Pagan worship. Verses 21 and 22 of Leviticus 18 are related. Please learn the truth!
Homosexuality is disgusting and immoral. God did not create man to be with man or woman to be with woman. He created man to be with woman! Homosexuality is just wrong and disgusting.
@28804ecorrell "God did" Unless you can prove any of this, it is just unsubstantiated make-belief. There are no rational arguments against homosexuality.
So would you say that child molestors "choose" to do things like that to boys and girls? We can all agree that it isn't natural to be attracted to young boys and girls right?
@dhowa862 Of course it's natural. It can be found in nature, so yes, it is. Child molestors do actually choose to do these things to children, but they do not choose their attraction.
Is it morally wrong? That depends on whether you think having sex with a person who cannot agree to it consciously, is wrong.
it's definitely not a choice or a lifestyle, if anything the people that are gay make the choice to be pretend to be straight just so they won't have to deal with the prejudice and discrimination in their society and be treated like your somehow less of a person because your in love with the same sex..
Why would I choose to be gay if homosexuals go through so much shit that comes out of the mouths of people like the troll from earlier who thinks it's a choice? Did that ever cross your mind? Because, if it were a choice, I'm sure nobody would want to deal with the shit and just be heterosexual
@goforevidence 'So why ANAL CANCER ( and particularly cancer of the perianal skin around the anus ) is more common between men who have sex with men ?'
1. This only true in the U.S.
2. Because men who have sex with men in the U.S. have unsafe sex (no lubircation etcetera)
3. But most importantly and sufficient to point out the flaw in your logic: Not all gay men have anal sex, therefore homosexuality causes no diseases or other health risks.
Anal cancer is an argument against anal, not gay sex.
@goforevidence men who have sex with men doesn't equal "homosexual." homosexuality is purely the atraction and the love for members of the same sex. sex is seperate. does sex define a relationship between a married man and woman? no...
All homophobic nonsense all stems from religion. Without God or other deities saying it is a sin, there would not be nearly as much of this, I truly think it would go down 99%. The last 1% is just the people who think it is weird.
@SodaWaterification 'I dont even want to touch gay peoples hands because they might have feces on them from their weird butt sex' That's because you only know prejudices about homosexuals instead of educating yourself.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Homosexuality isn't just singled out by the Bible, but all sexual perversion is. Sex purely for the sake of pleasure (fornication), adultery, incest, and other acts are all considered immoral. Homosexuality is but a part of this because all of that is a perversion of God's gift of participating in His Creation. I lump a promiscuous man in with a homosexual one for basically the same kind of sin, and granting special favors and rights to one on that basis is simply immoral.
@MaxxTheMerciless, God creates gay people just the way they are, and wants them to be homosexual. There's no sin in being how God makes you. The Lord loves the gays, why argue with Him?
God gives each and every one of us a challenge. We can choose to rise above that which is animal in our nature, or we can choose to be more like Him. What's more, Feelings do not matter, but our Actions do. This is why Homosexuality, like all sexual perversion, is a choice. We choose to sin. We choose where we put our genitals and why. Maybe it's not entirely conscious, but it is a choice. And if you can't own up to that choice, then don't force..cont
@MaxxTheMerciless, your argument fails because it is both irrational and easily disproven. No one "chooses" innate characteristics like skin color, height, sexual orientation, or the hand we use to write with. The only people who push such a dishonest myth are those driven or indoctrinated by a "religious" agenda, who want to inflict their chosen religious lifestyle, and its vile, inherent bigotry, onto society at large. You have the right to revel in ignorance, but keep it to yourself.
@GodCreatesGays2 Wrong. We choose what we do. Merely having feelings doesn't excuse what you choose to do. It's a bit like saying being angry excuses you from the act of murder, or being hungry excuses you from the act of theft. They're all wrong, and our feelings do not absolve us of guilt.
Sexual arousal and pleasure are not excuses either. Feelings and pleasure are trivial by comparison to your immortal soul.
@GodCreatesGays2 cont... So, on that basis, I'll continue to speak the truth. It is YOU and those like you that push a dishonest myth (actually several).
See, this is not, nor has ever been, a civil rights issue. That's been a myth from the beginning as a means to force society to accept their lifestyle as healthy, normal, and decent. Gays have always been allowed to marry, for instance, it's just they want to redefine marriage to suit their lifestyle.
@MaxxTheMerciless, you are spending an awful lot of time, and becoming increasingly hysterical (in both senses of that word), trying to foist absurd myths and an already-disproven agenda onto youtube readers. If this is how you want to waste your life, far be it from me to stop you, but how sad it is to see you insist on spreading dishonest tripe, when you could be turning to the Lord and accepting His wisdom, rather than letting the devil deceive, manipulate, and keep you forever in darkness.
@GodCreatesGays2 I like how you make a lot of presumptions. Increasingly hysterical, eh? I like how you've yet to refute even one word I've said, resorting to ad hominem and character assassination. Shows you haven't given anything much thought.
@GodCreatesGays2 Also, your whole point about God creating gays is a strawman argument. He created a lot of things, but just because something might be natural doesn't make it right. He handed down the 10 Commandments to Moses, which specifically forbids theft, murder, adultery, covetousness, and false testimony, which also promote a philosophical pattern. This is why sexual perversion of any kind other than just adultery is sinful.
@MaxxTheMerciless, again, you're trying desperately to prove points that simply have no basis in reality. You are free to accept and believe any man-made nonsense you want, but when you try to inflict your absurd notions onto others, you'll have to be schooled in the truth. Don't get mad, get educated.
@GodCreatesGays2 But you've yet to make even one refutation. All you do is say that I'm ignorant, that I'm hysterical and such. That's called ad hominem and character assassination. You have nothing.
@MaxxTheMerciless, everything you say is wrong, and anyone who knows the facts would agree. I can't get any clearer than that. I can't help it if you character is assassinated by the truth.
@GodCreatesGays2 Everything I say is wrong, eh? Strange. Everything I say is based on fact and truth. Fact: Behavior is a choice. Fact: Homosexuality is not in-born. Fact: Sexual Perversion of any kind is a sin, including Homosexuality. Fact: God calls upon all of us to rise above our animalistic, materialistic natures. Fact: Sexual perversion of any kind doesn't promote strong, healthy societies (got history to back that one up). What kind of facts have you been using?
MaxxTheMerciless, yes, everything you say is wrong. No, I did not say you had the intellectual resources to KNOW it. Sexual orientation is not just a behavior, and it is indeed innate. Only those with limited education, who are riddled with "religious" indoctrination & have issues with sexuality are deluded into thinking that consensual, adult sexuality is a "sin". You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink, just like I can lead a homophobe to wisdom but I cannot make you think.
@GodCreatesGays2 Sexual orientation has been shown to be as transitory as any other emotion. But it's irrelevant anyway, because it's the act, not the feeling, that counts. Plenty of people who have performed homosexual acts claim to be heterosexual, including but not limited to porn stars and convicts.
@MaxxTheMerciless cries, "Sexual orientation has been shown to be as transitory as any other emotion."
Maybe in your..."mind". Just not in the real world. And even if it were, there's no rational basis for denying consenting adults the right to form nurturing, loving relationships with each other. Religious fanatics and anti-gay zealots can froth at the mouth all you want, but the truth will never change. Sorry.
@MaxxTheMerciless 'Sexual orientation has been shown to be as transitory as any other emotion.' Yet another assumption you fail to back up with evidence.
'But it's irrelevant anyway, because it's the act, not the feeling,' Except for the fact that you keep ignoring, that homosexuality is not an act, it's attraction.
'including but not limited to porn stars and convicts.' Because most of them are, the fact that you have sex with a person does not proof you're attracted to that person.
@thomaseshuis Thunderously wrong. Because a feeling is not the ACT. What you are saying is to excuse the actions of someone based squarely on how they feel, reducing Man to the Animal. That means that our fundamental foundations of Law do not apply to anything anymore. Why should I convict someone of a crime if his feelings caused him to commit the act? It is all an attempt to remove personal responsibility from a human being for what he chooses to do. And it's a dangerous thing to do.
@MaxxTheMerciless 'verything I say is based on fact and truth.' Ehm, no. Saying something is a fact does not make it so.
'Fact: Behavior is a choice.' Fact: homosexuality is not a behaviour: it's a sexual orientation!
'Fact: Homosexuality is not in-born.' No, that's your assumption, not a fact.
'There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation.' Continued...
@MaxxTheMerciless 'Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.' From the website of the APA (the American Psychological Association).
'Fact: Sexual Perversion of any kind is a sin,' No, it's a fact that your bible says that. You'd have to proof the existence of you god and sin first before anything can be considered a sin.
@thomaseshuis There are 25 proofs of God's existence, but I would point you toward one - Necessary Causes. I'll allow you to look that concept up, but basically it means that nothing in this universe came into existence on it's own.
Be that as it may, it is still a perversion, because what is the purpose of Sex?
asshole...
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Homosexuality is well documented in over 1500 species.
Homophobia exits in only one.
What is truly unnatural?
luger74 1 week ago
A man who worked for Sportsnet is fired from his job cus he stood by his beliefs & said he supports the traditional family. What do the homosexual bullies do? They threaten his wife, his children & him with death & now constantly harrass him. A priest gives a sermon to those with faith, what do the bullies do? They storm the church, shout profanity at children & fornicate on the alter. A student says he thinks being gay is not natural. Homobully teacher has him suspended. They are bullies...
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
Homomanipulative science would have you believe that homosex is natural cus on occassion, there are some in the animal kingdom that may have fucked the same sex in captivity or in the wild. There's no strictly gay animal anywhere, not one. It is not natural at all. If an animal rapes another, is rape now natural for humans? If one kills n eats their babies, are we now to believe it's completely natural for humans & promote it? No. Sick individuals can manipulate all they want, but their still BS
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
Homosexuality is not natural. Just look at homosexual suicides. Every cell in their body is screaming that they are a man for a woman n vice versa, but douchbags on a propaganda campaign to turn children into the next gen homosexuals warp their minds with crap like gaga, pop culture, homocurriculum & more. They are confused to say the least. The suicides are not from bullying, it's from trying to be gay in the first place. A good reason to stop promoting homosex to children. Leave them alone
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
Homosexuality is bad for society because it's acceptance AS AN INSTITUTION creates an allegiance to the same political instability and left wing ideology that created the label in the first place; the motivation beneath which were to create this allegiance. And so all people who enjoy gay exchanges have to decide for themselves if ACKNOWLEDGEMENT is important enough to them to warrant the mass genocide that comes along with tyranny.
TheTcorps 2 weeks ago
Are you people are even serious? with homosexuality the fertility rate is going down, look at the USA! 1.6? how is homosexuality is natural?
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 With homosexuality the fertility rate is going down? What the hell are you talking about? Have you not noticed the world's population has been increasing exponentially? We have 7 billion people on this planet in the year 2012. There were only 6 billion in the year 2000.
We gained 1 billion people in 12 years.
Fertility rate going down? You don't even bother looking at facts before you say things, do you?
Homosexuality is natural because it occurs in nature.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
look up for EU, and US rates, under 20, while in other nations like China, India, Mid East, they have it above 7.0, they are the ones extremly helped in raising it up.
Natural? of course! like flu! it's a natural ill! isn't it?
as well as homosexuallity :) homosexuals don't help increasing the level of fertility.
your saying some males are born females, I believe you, but how about who #### them? sorry... but I'm still wonderring...
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Countries in Europe are under 2.0, but so is China. China is at 1.73 too. The vast majority of countries over 2.0 are poor South American, Arab, and Asian countries, and the countries with fertility rates way over 2.0 are the extremely poor African countries.
America is over 2.0.
Yes, homosexuality and the flu are both natural. How are they not? And just because they're both natural, that means they're both illnesses? You're not making much sense.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Homosexuals don't help increase the level of fertility.... so? Why do we need more people? The population is increasing exponentially. We'll soon have an overpopulation problem, like some countries already have, but it will be a worldwide overpopulation problem, and you're sitting here talking about how bad homosexuality is because it doesn't make more babies that we obviously don't need.
So what are you arguing? That we desperately need more people?
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
what? buddy, if a man and a women only have a single child that means their rate is 0.50 two, 1.00, three, 1.50, four, 2.00. and they made a study, if a nation has a rate of 1.60 and below, their culture will be taken out, and a new culture will be the replacement, not at the exact moment, but after dew decades.
lastly, I don't like homos because they're misusing sexual organs, the main purpose is to reproduce, entertainment is number two.
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 No, if a woman has 1 child, then her fertility rate is 1. The average fertility rate in America is 2.1. Does that mean the average woman in America has 4 kids? No.
You don't lie homos because they don't make children? So you also don't like heteros who don't make children?
So you just don't like people who don't make children? What a stupid reason to dislike people.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
ahh, now look at this, the women reproduces egg cells with 23 chromosomes, men does the same but they got sperm cells. in other words, she needs a man after all.
what?!! under 2.0? it's above 8! everyone here in Saudi Arabia has above five children, I have 2 brothers and three sisters.
america has 1.6~1.7, also you said a whole billion in 12ys? in 6ys from 24million to 32million my country went up, lol, my father had 8 brothers.
after all, gays can have 0.
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 What's above 8? China's fertility rate? No it's not, I just looked.
Yes, gays have zero children. Some use artificial insemination. But let's say gays have no children, so what? Why does it matter? Do we need more people?
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
gays(no matter what their sexual intrests are) STILL can ejaculate, over 10% of the USA are gays. not just because your a feminist male, doesn't make you have to be gay, you're part of this society, go do your job, rather than wasting pedophiles' juice, feminism doesn't necessarily affects the man's sex. only when you don't have balls then we'll give you an excuse. those gays could raise the american rate 10% more, go check again and compare between saudia and america.
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 I don't know what the hell you're even talking about at this point.
And Saudi Arabia has a fertility rate of 3.35.
So that's a little over 3 children per female.
Why does it matter?
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
what the hell?!! I checked it and USA was 2.06 and KSA was 2.35!
anyway it's higher, WHY DOES IT MATTER?!!
you only want to serve your ass?! if the rate went less than 1.6 the nation can't survive!!!
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Survival of a group of people can't be set at a specific fertility rate. The higher the population, the lower the fertility rate has to be for that group of people to survive. The lower the population, the higher the fertility rate has to be. So your 1.6 figure doesn't make sense.
I don't serve anybody. I do my own thing. If I don't want to have kids, I don't have to. It's a free country. You wouldn't know about that living under Sharia Law.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
hey did you miss something? people DIE! example:
a society of 2000 men, 2000 women, every man has a wife, and every familiy has one child. so they have 1000 child, who are representing the next genereation. the rest(as normally) dies.
lmao the word "sharia" is an original arabic word, and it actually means "law" in english,
so your saying : law law? that doesn't make any sense, if you meant islamic law, then that's it. what's wrong with it? kills homos? they deserv
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 2000 men and 2000 women have 2.5 children each on average, so they have 5000 children, those 5000 children have 12,500 children, those 12,500 children have 31,250 children. See how the population exponentially grows? We don't need that.
And Sharia Law is not how a civil society operates, that's why you people are behind in everything.
Gays deserve to die? Because your evil god says so? Your religion is dying because humans are getting smarter and abandoning it.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81
do the math right, half of the 5000 is 2500(women), like what you did first(2.5x2000)
2500x2.5=6250, 3125(women)x2.5=7812.
dying? it's the fastest growing religion...
smarter? what has to do with that? -_-
being smart ans well educated doesn't necessarily force the person to leave his religion as long as it doesn't stand on its way.
no but because all the cultures in the world from asia to america to europe, etc says so.
also, we all know that majority aren't gays..
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 All religions are dying. Atheism is growing the fastest, which means all religions are losing members. That's a good thing.
The higher the intelligence of the nation, the less religious they are. The poorer and dumber a country is, the more religious they are.
Not all cultures say gays deserve to die. And that's not a reason for them to die. I can say you deserve to die.
So gays aren't the majority... so? Muslims aren't the majority either. Do they deserve death?
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
no you dumbass, that wasn't the reason.
there's a purpose sex which is higher than your own personal will, regardless of your faith.
not all cultures dislike them? oh yeah, that explains why ALL homosexuals I've ever met in my lifetime are actually atheists.
lol look at who's talking about science, atheism is something and science is something else. atheism is like religion; lifestyle, which is a resuilt of dis/believing in something. you're discussing another topic
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 So if gays not being the majority isn't the reason they deserve to die, then why did you say that? What does that have to do with anything? And if that's not the reason, then what's the reason they deserve to die?
Sex is higher than personal will? What are you talking about?
What does gays being atheists have to do with cultures around the world disliking them?
Atheism is nothing like religion. You were born an atheist. You can't be born a Muslim.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
born atheist... yeah right, let me explain something to you, any human on earth, naturally due to his high intellegent thinking must morship something, idol, god, his own life.
I wasn't born atheist, I was born like every human else, I believer. who is smarter? the person who thinks this world was an accident, or the one who thinks this world has a beginning, we're out of the topic, but you dragged us out of it.
btw gays are innatural. don't compare us to animals.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 So you were born believing in a god? So when you were born, you actually had the belief that a god exists?
So if I asked a 2 year old who is first learning to talk, and they were never taught anything about a god, they would tell me they believe in a god?
Are you insane?
So you don't believe the Earth was made by accident because it had a beginning? So accidents don't have beginnings?
Gays are perfectly natural. How are they not?
Humans are animals.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
who's insane? you're intending to ask a 2 years old child thatt lacks of understanding? he WOULDN'T speak, but if you left a human alone, without taking care of him but protecting him without his awareness of you... he will belief that there's a god, how do you think some man-made religions started? as such as buddism, and hindus. they're worshipping material-based gods, it's a human nature.
yeah they're natural, just like saying you're dating your mom is...
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 You said you're born believing in god, and now you're saying you would EVENTUALLY start believing there's a god with no outside influence.
So you're changing your story. So you admit you are born an atheist.
And you have no evidence that someone left to their own devices would start believing in a god. Just because most cultures believe in a god, doesn't mean anything. A lot of cultures believe in dragons and other monsters too.
And Buddhists believe in no gods.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Homosexuality is natural because it occurs in nature. You have yet to explain how it's unnatural. And how natural and unnatural means anything. It's unnatural to take medicine to fight illness. It's unnatural to have surgery to save your life. What does saying something is unnatural prove anyway? That it's wrong? So since unnatural things are wrong, then it's wrong for doctors to even exist.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
you're an idiot, I didn't say it's unnatural, only christians say that...
but yes it's wrong, because it's actually an ill. as what it was said in the video, "parts don't fit", infact it's a form of masturbation, but worse. masturbation is natural, but it's prohibited because you wont bare children from it. also sex is natural , but the illegal sex is prohibited. because it has many sequences: mixing family tree; and that causes the loss of the money, etc...etc...
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Loss of money? I don't even know what the hell you're talking about anymore.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
because you're an idiot, when you screw up your family tree by having an illegal child from an illegal sex, he'll take your legacy after your death, because he's your son(and your sin).
it's quiet-simple, but atheists like you(who claim that they take care of science more than anyone else) are dumber even than their own atheist ideoligies.
you just want to live your pathetic mortal life passing the borders.
god is proven to those who THINK. not for blind animals.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Having an illegal child from an illegal sex? What the hell are you talking about? Are you saying if two men have a child together, then that's an illegal child from an illegal sex? Are you crazy?
God is proven to no one. You may say he's proven to you, but you can say anything if you don't have to prove it. You can say you're the strongest man in the world. Why should I believe you?
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
what the hell are YOU talking about?! when you die and you didn't put any wills, who's going to take your money? your LIGET family, it's not supposed to be taken from a bastard who was a mistake made by you, he's not the mistaken but you.
my whole point was to clear that lonely homosexuals can end their family tree in a bad "peaceful" way without having wars, etc...
not proven? are you bullcrapin? this "natural process" can't start alone...
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 I still don't know what the hell you're talking about. Who the hell is this "bastard" you're talking about?
Homosexuals can end their family tree by not having kids? So? So can heterosexuals who don't have kids. What's your point?
This natural process can't start alone? How do you know? Prove it.
And if your god exists, he can't start alone either.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
well, now real questions have been asked.
can everything start from zero? -possible; but it also could not because it cannot be multiplied.
can ........... infinitely? no: because that means it will start from minus infinite, and timeline cannot be even counted in minus, because it's not a directional force, exactly like space and lengh.
can .......... infinitely after zero? yes.
even the natural numbers(N)={1,2,3,4,.....} named like that.
you're purely emotional.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Your English isn't very good, so it's hard to understand what you're trying to say.
If you want to know how the universe began, learn physics.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
it's actually Phyics that I was talking about, and if you look at the Islamic concept of a god, you'll notice it doesn't deny the science of physics and mathmatics, but the issue, is with the close-minded biologist atheists as such as darwin and dawkins, yes, it's a theory, but it can't stand alone, neither the intellegence design as well. but it requires both to make that natural process. they did a great a job, but evolution isn't enough to explain how we became.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Intelligent design is useless. Saying "god did it" is just an answer that people use until the real answer is proven. Evolution explains exactly what evolution is supposed to explain; the change of life over time. What does it fail to explain? The origin of life? It's not supposed to explain that, because the origin of life has nothing to do with evolution.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
it has a big mistake, bro. how did the bacteria came in the first place? H2O, how about the H2O? chemical reactions, how about the subsistances? the "big bang", how about the big bang? "Atheist Scientists":We don't know YET.
and put in your mind, this is the Natural World, with its Natural Process.
so it can't be infinitive, neither from zero.
evolution is based on an accedint, and you're coming to say "no accedints, just natural process".
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 How did bacteria come in the first place? I don't know.
Water is just elements combining to satisfy the octet rule.
Natural processes can't be infinite? How do you know? Explain this to me using your physics knowledge.
And the universe can't begin from nothing? Explain it to me using your physics knowledge, since you must have extensive physics knowledge for you to be able to say that.
Evolution is not based on an accident. What accident are you talking about?
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
"Energy is saved, and doesn't regenerate from nothing"
that's a very common physical law as a response for both statements.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Energy is conserved. That's the law of the conservation of energy.
Now show me the law that says that "energy is saved, and doesn't regenerate from nothing".
Whatever that even means.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
what? didn't you take in "school" in the subject "Science"(primary school). this law? it's a very common basical law. by the way, I think you didn't know what we're talking about, it TIME not energy. "Natural Process".
I already showed you that law already. examples? momentusl, impulse, and in chemistry, equations have the same law.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 What's the name of the law? Laws have names. Without a name, you're just making it up.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
I DON'T REMEMBER THE GOD DAMN NAME! I LEARNED IT IN OTHER LANGUAGE LONG TIME AGO!!
but I can make you BILLIONS of experiments about it.
you know what? energy isn't saved, you said that! rather than your testing my knowledge.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Energy is conserved. There is no law that states that energy can't come from nothing, or that energy is "saved", whatever that means.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
hah, that law confirms that energy didn't become from zero. there must be an amount of energy to begin with, or NO evolution, no intellegent design, or even natural process.
physics is about thinking, not like biology, even in my school's exams, biology takes so much effort because it depends on my memory more than my intellegence.
looks like we've rootl changed the subject, thanks to you. -_-
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 Negative energy + positive energy = zero energy.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81
animals also has levels of intellegence.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 'they're misusing sexual organs'
Do you also not like people who use screwdrivers to open a tin of beans? Also, who determines what something should or should not be used for? Sounds like an opinion and not something objectively determinable to me.
aMidnightBreeze 1 week ago
@aMidnightBreeze
opinion? not if you're gay. anyway, it's a fact that gays does misusing sex oragans.
look at what you're talking about, screwdrivers and beans' cans.
and guess what? there will be a "natura" punishment for that situation, it may not bother you but you'll have to make more efforts to unlock that can.
there are terrible consequences for homosexuality over its punishment.
enough that every culture in the world deny it.
X3BOOODYX2012 1 week ago
@X3BOOODYX2012 There's an important question to answer here. How do you determine what the correct use of something is? A screwdriver is for loosening or tightening screws, yet is my example I suggest using it for a task which it was not designed for. If we are going to deem homosexuality wrong by the arguement that it is a misuse of sexual organs, then this suggests that it is also morally wrong to use a screwdriver to open a tin.
aMidnightBreeze 1 week ago
@aMidnightBreeze
'there are terrible consequences for homosexuality over its punishment.'
Could you go into more detail on this point, I have difficulty understanding what you are trying to say.
'enough that every culture in the world deny it.'
Not every culture has denied homosexuality. There are both current and historical cultures that accept homosexuality.
aMidnightBreeze 1 week ago
@aMidnightBreeze
well it's very obvious, the biggest consequence is not having kids. and by that there also other consequences, you may cut down your own family tree, or slow down the birth rate which lowers the pupolation. the homosexuality delusion is purely for entertainment. and I bet that you are gay 60% or atheist 40%. or even both.
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@X3BOOODYX2012 'the biggest consequence is not having kids'
Some heterosexuals choose not to have children and some are sterile or otherwise incapable of having them.
'...or slow down the birth rate which lowers the pupolation.'
The birth rate is quite high and since the precentage of homosexuals is low, it would not drop significantly. We have quite a big population and it wouldn't hurt for it to level out a little.
'the homosexuality delusion is purely for entertainment'
I wouldn't suspect...
aMidnightBreeze 1 week ago
@aMidnightBreeze ...homosexuals find it entertaining considering how difficult and painful it is to live like that with all the prejudice against them. Seems like the least fun thing to be.
'and I bet that you are gay 60% or atheist 40%. or even both'
Assumptions don't get you anywhere and I'd recommend avoiding them and keeping to the reasoning. I'm an atheist, but I'm not gay. Though both these points are irrelevant to this discussion. You may have heard of the phrase 'Ad Hominem' and I...
aMidnightBreeze 1 week ago
@aMidnightBreeze ...feel you're getting dangerously close to making that mistake.
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@X3BOOODYX2012
« homosexuals don't help increasing the level of fertility »
Actually, that's not *entirely* true. Genetic research shows that there is a strong correllation between genetic factors associated with homosexuality in males and increased fertility in female relatives. In other words, female relatives of homosexuals - sharing some of the genes that are associated with homosexuality - are slightly more fertile than average.
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under 2.0 not 20, lol a big mistake
X3BOOODYX2012 2 weeks ago
@thecrazymuzician1 Are you seriously brainwashed by the liberal media? FemiNAZIS are the scum of the earth. Lesbians are just as bad. Stay away from my kids you disgusting pervert.
FollowHisWill 2 weeks ago
@FollowHisWill Noone will make your kids gay. If your kid is gay they are gay. Noones fault. Deal with it. People like you make me laugh. Lesbians (me) are NORMAL people!
cleanxo 2 weeks ago
@FollowHisWill Yeah Lesbians are horrible. I wish they could be more like you; a hateful bigot who belongs in the dark ages.
I love how people like you just hate gays and can't even give a reason why. Well, a GOOD reason. "Cause they're fags" isn't a good reason.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
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thecrazymuzician1 2 weeks ago
"What's Morally Wrong With Homosexuality?" Quite simply: Nothing.
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@TheGinnyhp "Jesus" is the biggest bad guy in human history. He's led to so many millions of deaths. Murder from fundamentalists, suicide from discrimination, medical inhibition (preventing research into genetics and stem cell research to cure cancer and disease), death from disease (condoms, prohibited knowledge of safe sex) and most importantly.. War. If Christianity had never existed the world would be such a better place.
malygoat 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence I wish less people stood up for their beliefs and more took a stand for the facts.
1moreastronaut 1 month ago
To the homomilitants n their brainwashed advocates that force children to be taught homosex in Public n Catholic schools, regardless of the Right to Freedom of Religion or Parental Rights, to you that storm Churches calling children in Church haters, etc for not accepting homosexuality, to you that equate the Civil Rights Movement of blacks to that of homosexuality... Shame on you. Hey wanna be gay, go ahead, u were born that way. N as such, naturally, 2men or 2woman together can not have kids
CanadianIndependence 1 month ago 3
What homsexual advocates fail to realize is that they are pawns in the game. Homosexuals can have a legal marriage in many states n provinces,The United Church is willing to marry Transexuals. To force a priest or anyone else to marry two transexuals or face discrimination charges is wrong. We have a Right to our Beliefs, Our Opinions, etc. If it becomes Criminal to have an opinion, a belief, we're all in trouble.
CanadianIndependence 1 month ago
John Corvino has stolen the words right out of my mouth. I don't care what the Bible says, because when it comes down to it, it's purely a civil rights issue. Even if I was a devout Christian who devoted every waking moment of my life to practicing the word of God, I would still support of LGBT civil rights. Why? Because the Constitution states that no law should be made with regard or intent to cater to a given religion. Plain and simple. Religion and government are separate entities.
cocoalrose 1 month ago
......but, hey, I have changed my life for the better; I am vegetarian, no alcohol, coffee, tea, tobacco, no sugar, and because I am hypersensitive to milk and cereal products, I have other options. Furthermore, I have changed the religion, Yess! It came as a natural consequence of the abuse I suffered in the Church. And I am soooooo happy, but still depressed.
Tzedaqyal 1 month ago
...Says one who still can't sleep at night and suffers from severe depression because of the exorcism and ex-gay therapy I went through in mid 90s. Enough is enough.
Tzedaqyal 1 month ago
The problem is definition; learn to distinguish between "natural" and "unusual".
Tzedaqyal 1 month ago
Sodomy is unsafe for heterosexuals and homosexuals.
FreeVonHelton 1 month ago
Homosexuality is in the same category as bestiality, sodomy and masturbation. Some people enjoy it. So what? Why should the government legalise it.
historypoliticsbb 1 month ago
@historypoliticsbb Seriously? Sodomy & homosexuality may be in the same level, but masturbation is on a lower level and bestiality is on a higher level of unacceptability, up there is incest and paedophilia (though, the latter may be even higher).
FreakishAnimeFan 1 month ago
@FreakishAnimeFan Well the US Senate just passed the NDAA bill legalising sodomy and bestiality in the army. I agree bestiality is worse of course.
historypoliticsbb 1 month ago
Homosexuality is not natural. It's a fact. I understand why people don't get it. They are being brainwashed by homomilitants to believe that there are strictly gay animals, a gay gene, n that "you are born that way". It's all BS. They try to force their lifestyle on our children n blast religion with hatred n intolerance. They want to force men/women against their beliefs n will to accept homosexuality. They want to force priests to marry them. The militants are sick n they laugh at all of us
CanadianIndependence 1 month ago
footballfan8000 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence But is occurs in nature all the time. THAT'S a fact. It's not anymore of a choice than being straight is. And don't heterosexuals force THEIR lifestyle on children? How many times do you see heterosexuals making out or holding hands? Churches have the right to refuse ANY marriage. Gays only want legal marriage. Nobody is forcing you to accept homosexuality, they only want equality. Your comment is full of double standards.
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@TheSparky777 You are ill informed to say the least. A man n a woman is natural, that's how you were born, two men or two women alone can not have children. How can you not accept that reality? People all over the World are being prosecuted for not accepting homosexuality n standing up for their beliefs. Gays have equality, they are not victims, they are bully's. Homomilitants are forcing their lifestyle "choice" onto kids. You haven't got a clue
CanadianIndependence 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence Whether or not two men or women can or can't have children on their own, the fact that homosexuality is observed in over 1000 species makes it natural, because it occurs in NATURE. 10% of the population are bullies? Seriously? You also seem to think that homosexuality is contagious. Teaching kids that some people are gay won't make anyone homosexual, it will make them tolerant. The hate against gay people is what's unnatural.
TheSparky777 1 month ago
@TheSparky777 Um no, the last sentence is contradicting, because hatred occurs in society too, thus by your logic it has to be natural too. You know what else is observed in animals though...eating poop, eating their young, and killing each other. Natural good stuff, huh.
evanstoler 1 month ago
@evanstoler I'm not seeing your point. You're saying homosexuality is unnatural by pointing out other things that are natural? I'm simply addresing the argument that homosexuality is unnatural, which its not. Let me clarify my last sentence, I meant that humans seem to be the only species that has a problem with homosexuality. There's just no reason to hate someone because of who they are attracted to. It's not like people choose who they are attracted to.
TheSparky777 1 month ago
@evanstoler I would also like to point out that animals do not eat their young unless they are in an extremely stressful situation. Homosexuality on the other hand occurs in over 1000 species in any situation
TheSparky777 1 month ago 2
@CanadianIndependence SCIENTIFIC fact: Homosexuality is actually common through out elephants, lions, cats etc. you're telling me homos aren't natural? The word "Natural" means something consciously man made.Gay people are born gay, their dads dont actually rearrange theyre genes to make'em gay. Gay people ARE born homo, churches CANNOT change that. The gender of people you love does not have to do with will. it has to do with GENETICS. Go ahead, try to prove me wrong with the bible BRING IT ON
NOSYPOWER 1 month ago
@NO You spout untrue, unproven homoscience bullshit. I've read so many papers on homosexuality in nature, n not one study is proven without a doubt. I've heard people far more educated than yourself who advocate for homosexuality n try to push the gay animal thing, but even they are intelligent enough to admit that there is not 1 strictly homosexual animal. There is also NOT a GAY GENE. If you discovered it, the World is waiting. LGBT is a choice. Man/Woman/procreation is natural. Homosex is not
CanadianIndependence 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence Does it really matter if its not natural or not proven by science? The number 1 reason homos are not bad has to do with ethics. Is it really all that ethical to shun somebody who has no choice of their sexual orientation from birth just because the bible says so? Think about that, think from your heart...is it? No, homosexuality is not a choice. Dissagree? if you do, then tell me of one person you know that has ACTUALLY turned from being gay and going back into straight.
NOSYPOWER 1 month ago
@N Well, your homoscience is way off, as is your touch with reality. I suppose it's not your fault for being so ignorant. You want a name of a born gay who went to straight? LOL, easy.. When I give them, then you must admit that being gay is a choice right? Google Michael Glatze, Bill Henson, Donnie McClurkin, Bill Whatcott , youtube vickigoes2washington, and there's lots more. If you have any common sense, you'll see the truth of the matter. Homosexuality is a choice. U got the proof u wanted
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence If there is no gay gene, then tell me, what makes a person gay?
NOSYPOWER 1 month ago
"if there is no gay gene"? IF? There is no gay gene, period. What makes a person gay? Nothing makes them gay; it's a choice. Not sure the point you're missing
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence So you "choose'" to be heterosexual? That's some interesting (and very personal) revealing information there. It's not everyone that could take up a gay lifestyle "just by choice". There are certain kinds of people who could but there are many who could never choose that lifestyle even if there were no members of the opposite sex.
I might be wrong, but one should infer from your position that you are what we call a carrier of the gay gene - bisexual.
ExtantFrodo2 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence It has been proven that homosexuality comes from a chemical imbalance in the brain. Therefore, not a choice.
klose152 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence Homosexuality occurs every once in a while in people when they are born, how is that not natural? Bring it on
NOSYPOWER 1 month ago 3
@NOSYPOWER You truely are an idiot. You spout shit from your mouth without any scientific proof whatsoever... I suppose it makes sense for you to spout shit from your mouth, seeing as you're homosexual, I would guess that ya like fucking another guy up the ass either before, or in your case, probabely right after he takes a shit, and then somehow it ends up in your mouth, as it reflects on your words that come out thereafter.
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence Not only did you avoid the question, but you tried to exaggerate it with an assumption with no proof. Can you even prove your self how homosexuality is a choice? Im not too focused right now on the proof i give. But i wanna see the proof YOU have. Prove homosexuality is a choice, do it
NOSYPOWER 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence Genetics plays a role in homosexuality. Twin studies have proven this. Homosexuality isn't just caused by a gay gene, otherwise identical twins would either ALWAYS be both gay or always be both straight. That's not the case. But there is a higher rate of homosexuality between both identical twins than between fraternal twins, which means there's a genetic component.
ninjajesus81 2 weeks ago
@ninjajesus81 I don't give a shit about your random studies with countless variables, or the theory that you or others of the like come up with. You either have proof of a gay gene or the genetics thereof or you don't. In your case, as with others like you, you have no proof that genetics plays any part of it. If you found the gene or the genetic code then why not share it with the rest of the world, otherwise, you're talking nonesense. Saying they are born that way, the burden of proof is on U
CanadianIndependence 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence It's proven that genetics play a role in homosexuality. Studies done on identical twins show that homosexuality is higher in both identical twins than in fraternal twins. Evidence shows that prenatal hormones also have an effect on the sexuality of the child inside the mother. There's studies that show the more male children a woman has, it becomes more and more likely that the later ones will be gay. There is lots of science for you to ignore here.
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@CanadianIndependence you re an idiot. 372 different species of animals engage in homosexuality. you say its not natural? well thats nature right there. And guess what, humans are animals too. And you talk like its a conspiracy but what is there to gain from it other than equal rights? And they target religion because it is religion which imposes its stupid ideals on others.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@GOOdGuyGreg1 No, you're an idiot. Homosexuals are not victims, they've become the bully's that they so hate, it's ironic. Say, if a dog humps your leg, do you then agree that beastiality is natural? A normal person would say no. There is not 1 strictly homosexual animal. A female cat says to a male cat, "no thanks, I only lick pussy". How screwed in the head are you to spout the nonsense that you do. Militants like yourself attack religion, specifically Christians out of hatred.
CanadianIndependence 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence So the minority is the bully? So all those teens that commit suicide each year as result of bullying because they re gay is just irrelevant? Theres a reason why they have a higher suicide rate - Bigots like you. And no my point wasnt that there is a species that is only gay, thats just stupid. I was merely comparing us to a dickload of other animals that do it and saying 'we re in the same boat' because we are animals too which disproves your statement that 'its unnatural'.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence And do you know why Im against religion? Because all of it profits from people's fear of the unknown. If we look at christianity, if it was never preached there would have been no dark ages, no spanish inquisition, no crusades, no oppression against homosexuals. The list goes on and thats just christianity. Im fine with people having faith but if you re arguing on this site then you re not one of them. Just keep it to yourself-what they re doing is legal for a reason.
GOOdGuyGreg1 1 month ago
@CanadianIndependence Everyone is born gay, this is true because you do not just switch from straight to gay in the middle of your life. To make it clearer, I repeat, no environmental factor has ever been demonstrated to cause or to influence either male homosexuality or male heterosexuality. God created everyone himself. in leviticus 20:13 god says he wants homos to die. So does this mean god made gays just to die? No, that makes no sense whatsoever!!
NOSYPOWER 1 month ago
So many strawmen, it's difficult to know exactly what to respond to.
historypoliticsbb 1 month ago
I prove that Homosexuality is not a "sin" for everyone from the Bible in my book, "The Good News: How Revealing Delusions In Christianity Will Bring Peace To All." I prove this from multiple passages in the Bible and I disprove every instance that present-day Christianity uses to back in its anti-homosexual stance. The true message of the Bible is that we should only judge other people on how they treat other people! Check out my videos as I discuss this and more on radio shows across the U.S.!
TheGoodNewsBook 1 month ago
and animals do that. there are species that even have a trio sexual life.
RubenAlcobia 1 month ago
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its a threat to the nations infrastructure because gays don't make babies the more that are gay the population starts declining
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its a threat to the nations infrastructure because gays dont make babies the more that are gay the population starts declining
mrsulaiman19 2 months ago in playlist LGBT - Debates on Homosexuality
@mrsulaiman19 Overpopulation is also a threat to a nation's infrastructure as well because it limits the amount of resources that people within a said nation can have and creates general disunity and conflict amongst people of nations, as shown by the current condition of Bangladesh and India when it comes to population. Is a larger population always what we want, assuming that your scenario is somehow right?
ScarletGhost4356 2 months ago
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@mrsulaiman19 there are too many people on this planet anyway
lifedmb 1 month ago
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@mrsulaiman19 "its a threat to the nations infrastructure because gays dont make babies" Homosexuals can and do reproduce.
thomaseshuis 1 month ago
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Leviticus 18 HAS BEEN MISINTERPRETED. Moses was addressing Shine Prostitution not gay people. The canaanites prayed to a god called Molech. They would sacrifice their children and have sex with male shine prostitutes called Quedesh. They believed it gave them fertility in life. The word Abomination comes from the hebrew word Toevah which referred to Idolatry. God in the bible has always detested Pagan worship. Verses 21 and 22 of Leviticus 18 are related. Please learn the truth!
broncopolykidgrad 2 months ago
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Homosexuality is disgusting and immoral. God did not create man to be with man or woman to be with woman. He created man to be with woman! Homosexuality is just wrong and disgusting.
28804ecorrell 2 months ago
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@28804ecorrell "God did" Unless you can prove any of this, it is just unsubstantiated make-belief. There are no rational arguments against homosexuality.
thomaseshuis 1 month ago
i have been debating christians for 30 years (very easily) on this subject,and i love this video : )
dignerds 2 months ago
So would you say that child molestors "choose" to do things like that to boys and girls? We can all agree that it isn't natural to be attracted to young boys and girls right?
dhowa862 2 months ago
@dhowa862 Of course it's natural. It can be found in nature, so yes, it is. Child molestors do actually choose to do these things to children, but they do not choose their attraction.
Is it morally wrong? That depends on whether you think having sex with a person who cannot agree to it consciously, is wrong.
MinimoviesInc 2 months ago
it's definitely not a choice or a lifestyle, if anything the people that are gay make the choice to be pretend to be straight just so they won't have to deal with the prejudice and discrimination in their society and be treated like your somehow less of a person because your in love with the same sex..
twinkie13st 2 months ago
Why would I choose to be gay if homosexuals go through so much shit that comes out of the mouths of people like the troll from earlier who thinks it's a choice? Did that ever cross your mind? Because, if it were a choice, I'm sure nobody would want to deal with the shit and just be heterosexual
Ramen86861 2 months ago
@ thomaseshuis
you wrote '' homosexuality is not unhealthy and spreads no disease.''
So why ANAL CANCER ( and particularly cancer of the perianal skin around the anus ) is more common between men who have sex with men ?
goforevidence 2 months ago
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@goforevidence 'So why ANAL CANCER ( and particularly cancer of the perianal skin around the anus ) is more common between men who have sex with men ?'
1. This only true in the U.S.
2. Because men who have sex with men in the U.S. have unsafe sex (no lubircation etcetera)
3. But most importantly and sufficient to point out the flaw in your logic: Not all gay men have anal sex, therefore homosexuality causes no diseases or other health risks.
Anal cancer is an argument against anal, not gay sex.
thomaseshuis 2 months ago
@goforevidence men who have sex with men doesn't equal "homosexual." homosexuality is purely the atraction and the love for members of the same sex. sex is seperate. does sex define a relationship between a married man and woman? no...
BeauG92 2 months ago
@goforevidence EVERYTHING THAT IS UNHEALTHY SHOULD BE OUTLAWED AND IS MORALLY WRONG.
Isn't that your standpoint, then?
MinimoviesInc 2 months ago
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Fuck fags, I hope you all get aids and die and burn in hell
Cerek120 2 months ago
@Cerek120 Yeah, i hate cigarettes too.
MinimoviesInc 2 months ago
Animals do have homosexual sex
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"The parts don't fit" starting at 1:04 is my favorite.
kamijk 3 months ago 2
Nice.. NOTHING is morally wrong. THE BIBLE IS MORALLY WRONG
SrBryanoCB 3 months ago
Brilliant!! Thank you so much for this post!
txtblockd 3 months ago
love is morally wrong? ok
FrostMan92 3 months ago
All homophobic nonsense all stems from religion. Without God or other deities saying it is a sin, there would not be nearly as much of this, I truly think it would go down 99%. The last 1% is just the people who think it is weird.
starwarsfreakgeek 3 months ago
I dont even want to touch gay peoples hands because they might have feces on them from their weird butt sex
SodaWaterification 3 months ago
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@SodaWaterification 'I dont even want to touch gay peoples hands because they might have feces on them from their weird butt sex' That's because you only know prejudices about homosexuals instead of educating yourself.
thomaseshuis 3 months ago
This dude just looks like a homo.........
rudemood2011 3 months ago
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Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
my last name is chism LOL
death0note0owner08 3 months ago
Homosexuality isn't just singled out by the Bible, but all sexual perversion is. Sex purely for the sake of pleasure (fornication), adultery, incest, and other acts are all considered immoral. Homosexuality is but a part of this because all of that is a perversion of God's gift of participating in His Creation. I lump a promiscuous man in with a homosexual one for basically the same kind of sin, and granting special favors and rights to one on that basis is simply immoral.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless, God creates gay people just the way they are, and wants them to be homosexual. There's no sin in being how God makes you. The Lord loves the gays, why argue with Him?
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Absolutely wrong.
God gives each and every one of us a challenge. We can choose to rise above that which is animal in our nature, or we can choose to be more like Him. What's more, Feelings do not matter, but our Actions do. This is why Homosexuality, like all sexual perversion, is a choice. We choose to sin. We choose where we put our genitals and why. Maybe it's not entirely conscious, but it is a choice. And if you can't own up to that choice, then don't force..cont
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless, your argument fails because it is both irrational and easily disproven. No one "chooses" innate characteristics like skin color, height, sexual orientation, or the hand we use to write with. The only people who push such a dishonest myth are those driven or indoctrinated by a "religious" agenda, who want to inflict their chosen religious lifestyle, and its vile, inherent bigotry, onto society at large. You have the right to revel in ignorance, but keep it to yourself.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Wrong. We choose what we do. Merely having feelings doesn't excuse what you choose to do. It's a bit like saying being angry excuses you from the act of murder, or being hungry excuses you from the act of theft. They're all wrong, and our feelings do not absolve us of guilt.
Sexual arousal and pleasure are not excuses either. Feelings and pleasure are trivial by comparison to your immortal soul.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 cont... So, on that basis, I'll continue to speak the truth. It is YOU and those like you that push a dishonest myth (actually several).
See, this is not, nor has ever been, a civil rights issue. That's been a myth from the beginning as a means to force society to accept their lifestyle as healthy, normal, and decent. Gays have always been allowed to marry, for instance, it's just they want to redefine marriage to suit their lifestyle.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless, you are spending an awful lot of time, and becoming increasingly hysterical (in both senses of that word), trying to foist absurd myths and an already-disproven agenda onto youtube readers. If this is how you want to waste your life, far be it from me to stop you, but how sad it is to see you insist on spreading dishonest tripe, when you could be turning to the Lord and accepting His wisdom, rather than letting the devil deceive, manipulate, and keep you forever in darkness.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I like how you make a lot of presumptions. Increasingly hysterical, eh? I like how you've yet to refute even one word I've said, resorting to ad hominem and character assassination. Shows you haven't given anything much thought.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless, more hysteria and paranoia are not going to help your case, I'm afraid.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Hysteria and paranoia? Where? Ad hominem and character assassination certainly aren't helping yours.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Also, your whole point about God creating gays is a strawman argument. He created a lot of things, but just because something might be natural doesn't make it right. He handed down the 10 Commandments to Moses, which specifically forbids theft, murder, adultery, covetousness, and false testimony, which also promote a philosophical pattern. This is why sexual perversion of any kind other than just adultery is sinful.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless, again, you're trying desperately to prove points that simply have no basis in reality. You are free to accept and believe any man-made nonsense you want, but when you try to inflict your absurd notions onto others, you'll have to be schooled in the truth. Don't get mad, get educated.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 But you've yet to make even one refutation. All you do is say that I'm ignorant, that I'm hysterical and such. That's called ad hominem and character assassination. You have nothing.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless, everything you say is wrong, and anyone who knows the facts would agree. I can't get any clearer than that. I can't help it if you character is assassinated by the truth.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Everything I say is wrong, eh? Strange. Everything I say is based on fact and truth. Fact: Behavior is a choice. Fact: Homosexuality is not in-born. Fact: Sexual Perversion of any kind is a sin, including Homosexuality. Fact: God calls upon all of us to rise above our animalistic, materialistic natures. Fact: Sexual perversion of any kind doesn't promote strong, healthy societies (got history to back that one up). What kind of facts have you been using?
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
MaxxTheMerciless, yes, everything you say is wrong. No, I did not say you had the intellectual resources to KNOW it. Sexual orientation is not just a behavior, and it is indeed innate. Only those with limited education, who are riddled with "religious" indoctrination & have issues with sexuality are deluded into thinking that consensual, adult sexuality is a "sin". You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink, just like I can lead a homophobe to wisdom but I cannot make you think.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Sexual orientation has been shown to be as transitory as any other emotion. But it's irrelevant anyway, because it's the act, not the feeling, that counts. Plenty of people who have performed homosexual acts claim to be heterosexual, including but not limited to porn stars and convicts.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless cries, "Sexual orientation has been shown to be as transitory as any other emotion."
Maybe in your..."mind". Just not in the real world. And even if it were, there's no rational basis for denying consenting adults the right to form nurturing, loving relationships with each other. Religious fanatics and anti-gay zealots can froth at the mouth all you want, but the truth will never change. Sorry.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless 'Sexual orientation has been shown to be as transitory as any other emotion.' Yet another assumption you fail to back up with evidence.
'But it's irrelevant anyway, because it's the act, not the feeling,' Except for the fact that you keep ignoring, that homosexuality is not an act, it's attraction.
'including but not limited to porn stars and convicts.' Because most of them are, the fact that you have sex with a person does not proof you're attracted to that person.
thomaseshuis 3 months ago
@thomaseshuis Thunderously wrong. Because a feeling is not the ACT. What you are saying is to excuse the actions of someone based squarely on how they feel, reducing Man to the Animal. That means that our fundamental foundations of Law do not apply to anything anymore. Why should I convict someone of a crime if his feelings caused him to commit the act? It is all an attempt to remove personal responsibility from a human being for what he chooses to do. And it's a dangerous thing to do.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
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@MaxxTheMerciless 'verything I say is based on fact and truth.' Ehm, no. Saying something is a fact does not make it so.
'Fact: Behavior is a choice.' Fact: homosexuality is not a behaviour: it's a sexual orientation!
'Fact: Homosexuality is not in-born.' No, that's your assumption, not a fact.
'There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation.' Continued...
thomaseshuis 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless 'Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.' From the website of the APA (the American Psychological Association).
'Fact: Sexual Perversion of any kind is a sin,' No, it's a fact that your bible says that. You'd have to proof the existence of you god and sin first before anything can be considered a sin.
thomaseshuis 3 months ago
@thomaseshuis There are 25 proofs of God's existence, but I would point you toward one - Necessary Causes. I'll allow you to look that concept up, but basically it means that nothing in this universe came into existence on it's own.
Be that as it may, it is still a perversion, because what is the purpose of Sex?
No, it's not for pleasure.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless sobs, "(Sex)...it's not for pleasure."
God disagrees, so whom are we supposed to believe? The Lord, Creator of all things in heaven and earth, or...YOU? LOL! LOL! LOL!
I hope you don't mind if we, the rational and sane people of the world, stick with the Lord. he has a better track record of being right. Sorry.
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Show me the scripture where God says sex is for pleasure. Cite it.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 months ago
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