If I can play at least 5% of whatever Tony does, I would quit my 65K engineering job anytime. Sure I would be making more money in a night club, just by heating the hell out of a poor drumset. Nah! I think I will keep the engi job anyway, you know two paychecks instead of one. May he be playing in peace...godspeed Master Williams see you one of this days (like 45 years from now).
It's not a wish or a comparative comment. Just my imagination getting sparked! I love Tony Williams and John Bonham for what they both contributed to drumming. I won't say that one is better or greater than the other. I will say that they are both invaluable to me because of the influence they have in their respective genres.
Boy do I miss Tony! Originality....second to none. Musicality, dynamics,groove, unbelievable "flamology" KILLER drum sound. What a tremendous loss to the music world. Continues to inspire.
what is the name of this song, also why have you not uploaded the whole song, there are some real good solos from the pianist and clarinet player! please upload the whole thing!
Tony was one of those rare drummers who could actually play anything he wanted to, totally at one with his kit , he could whip out amazing stuff without any hindrance or difficulty , this left him free to play the drums like a horn player would , as an expressive musical instrument. Beautiful.
Its important to understand that Tony was a mad assed fusion player, with flams & a library of rudiments (many between hands & feet) and a power house, take no prisoners style, long before virtually all players became aware of this kind of playing. This is a guy that played for Miles Davis at the age of 16 - One hell of a calling card.
I wish people would appreciate musicians - such as Buddy, Tony, et al - for what they have contributed to the world of music. Tony and Buddy knew who they were musically. And that's what they played - themselves. They weren't cheap clones and had a sound that was (is) musical and identifiable unto themselves. They also played successfully with some of the greatest musicians in the world. How many people that post these negative comments (drummer A is better than drummer B) can say that?
@BillE2112 I always try to say that I like a certain drummer's style more so that I let people know I don't think I'm the only one with an opinion. For example, I like the playing style of a lot of more modern drummers such as Thomas Pridgen or Tony Royster Jr. But I still have to sense to say that neither one is better or worse than Tony Williams or Buddy Rich or whomever I choose to compare them to. You can't objectively evaluate talent, which is a mistake so many people make trying to do...
He is really amizing. I am sure he could play heavy metal better than many metal drummers. His powerful groove sense is something that the jazz scene was not
prepared to absorbe. Something beyond his time...like any genius.
Tony Williams IS a genius. He expressed his musicality that only a few could understand. The man is asleep and in no way should be compared to Buddy Rich. They both had their gifts in a period of time when racism excluded too many people. Such is neither BR's fault nor TW's fault. It's the fault of those who think they are better than the ones already BETTA!
this is beautiful tony was powerful behind the kit like raw passion and uses his toms like he was communicating his feelings...like a native American would use a drum to convey a message...
Hi Holomorph271 thankyou very much for posting this... this song is one of my favourite songs with the pianist. Please upload the whole song... the full video pretty pretty pretty please...
@dhundai hey there i think it was 9x13,10x14,14x14 floor 16x16 floor and 16x18 floor oldschool standard sizes which i like the tonality that comes with them and i knew he used zildjian K's and 15" hats that bass looked like maybe a 22x16?? 22x14 back in the day probably
Tony was working with Buckethead and Bill Laswell in a band called Arcana when he died, I think. Check out "Arc of the Testimony" Tony Williams deserved to be called one of the greatest rock drummers ever, in addition to jazz.
Just the fact that T W played with the legend that was Miles Davis at the young age of 17 says more than any other comment can come across. I had the good fortune to see T W a number of times here in NYC and he was one of the drummers in which "holy shit" says it all. I was heartbroken and mourned when I heard he died. They say the good die young. In his case, the GREAT die young. If you ever have the chance to see a closeup of his set, you will see a tiny circle where he hit the head everytime
You tube is such a weird place. People feel free to leave comments like 'jazz sucks...it's a good thing he's dead...'! WTF? Only a pea-brained fucking low life would stoop to trash like that. If you don't get Tony, you just don't get drums! End of! You can practice for 20 years, 8 hours a day and you'll never sound as unique as this. There was only one Tony Williams, a true genius, who was so good at age 17 he changed the way Miles played.
oh tony! des gens comme toi,ou christian vander ,elvin jones ,daniel humair,charles saudrais,andré ceccarelli,vous m'avez donnés la vie!de ton paradi des batteur,illumine nous toujours,éternellement!...didier d'agostino batteur sur youtube la fenètre magique!
@ memzehni jai Bien j.thollot Connu , 2mecs lolo Bellonzi supers simpas ! et très bon JE croisait Aldo Romano CE coloriste riverbop au super , franco je-ne- Connu lai Pas . C'EST Bien de Leur rendre hommage ! merci ! au plaisir de te connaitre memzehni ! appel moi ! d ' Agostino batteur sur youtube,myspace,daily motion.
@Whatisthescore He plays with consummate dynamics, ppp to FFF. His philosophy changed jazz drumming. "Drums are meant to be hit" and thus ended the era where drummers had to feather the kick drum all the time to stay under the bass. His solos used far more of the kit in a melodic way than the vaudeville era drummers that preceded him (like Buddy.)
@Acrylicdrums but also realize the acoustic bass had to use pickups in order to have enough volume to compete with that style of drumming.. to me that hurts the swing because the bass doesn't use the pluck as much to drive the groove.
@Whatisthescore That's debateable, because that's the same as saying no electric jazz has swing/groove compared to acoustic. That's more timing than amplification in my book. Acoustic is simply a different format, I can't say music swings more just because the stand bass is acoustic.
@Acrylicdrums As Max Roach once said, "It's not about how fast or how hard you can play." Tony never created the type of rhythms max or philly did on the drums and it didn't take the idea of "drums are meant to be hit' to create such ideas. They could play just as fast without having to smash their drums.
@slick82958 Have you heard the later records that Tony did? Tony had perfect dynamic control over his drums, he's one of the most important drummers in the history of both bebop AND fusion.
@ryder187mac apparently you didn't read what i said. I never said that he didn't have dynamic control or that he wasn't important in bebop or fusion. Tony's years in the 2nd great quintet are among my favorite recordings, which by then, his drumming could be classified as fusion. So i agree, that he's extremely important in bebop and fusion. I love him in his lifetime group and trio of doom is another favorite. Sure he had dynamic control but...just go back and read what I'm talking about.
@slick82958 Well, you talk of a melodic approach then... still, I think Tony was very musical. Maybe in his own way and not in the way that you like, but I still think he's a one of a kind drummer.
@ryder187mac In his own way and not in the way I like? And no where did i say that he's not a one of a kind drummer. You keep summing it up that I'm bashing him or that he wasn't different, none of which is the case. Jazz musicians often take the melody to form a solo. You me and a lot of other people can agree on that right? They shape it into various forms. Tony WIlliams in his later years often just showed his dynamic control or how fast and hard he could play. See what I'm saying?
@Acrylicdrums That's debatable. I find it funny that when the people who love Tony bring up drummers before him, they only bring up Buddy (a drummer I'm not actually into). What happened to Max, Elvin, Jimmy or Philly? Philly and Elvin hit the drums pretty hard my friend yet what they have that Tony doesn't, is actually a melodic approach. Tony's 2nd great quintet years are amazing but afterward, other videos show that he just hit as hard and as fast as he could.
@slick82958 ...I don't agree... he just found a way to express his ideas in a very funky way. He's quit his earlier loose approach for a certain - let's say - machismo. You like it or not. Most prefer the previous Tony with Miles. I like 'em both. I surely agree to your point belonging Buddy Rich. Some people don't get the Cobb thing behind Tony's playing. And our real "dads" are definetely Philly Joe, Cobb, Roy, Max, for sure. We don't forget Papa Joe Jones, Klook, Big Sid and Cozy Cole, right?
@memzehni Ah definitely Jo Jones and Kook! and cant forget Chick Webb either ;) I see what your saying on the matter, I definitely do and believe me, regardless of whether I feel he is melodic or not, I love his playing from both eras. It has nothing to do with tony, mainly to do with the people who take it over the top with him. Tony and Buddy are usually the only ones referred to (as noted by the original comment i made to a user that you commented on) just trying to spread the word.
@slick82958 ...how could I ever forget Chick Webb, Buhaina, Shadow Wilson, Tiny Khan... the list is endless. I think I got your point belonging Tony / Buddy already in your comment before ;)
Well, yeah. My freind used to work on them and he said they were awful. But it is all part of his unique sound. Dudes on another level. Even the color is signature.
Buddy Rich could have been the white Max Roach but he was never good enough. Kenny Clarke and Max Roach created the matrix $tyle that Buddy copied. ****************Tony Williams was so brilliant Jackie McLean hired him at 16 and Miles Davis snatched him at 17!!
BR had too many predjudices and paradigms to play like Max or Tony. Buddy was a hardliner who believed in a certain kit setup, no practice, no overarching or soiphisticated concepts. Tony played pocket.groove, Buddy tried to fill every second with a note. Max was a high-concept/melodic player. He was a far more educated and intellectual man than Buddy.
@Acrylicdrums Add to that that Max Roach was an avid player in promoting Civil Rights for most of his life. I would've loved to meet the man, he shared my birthday and sounded like such a deep dude.
Buddy only had that bombastic, unmusical, showoffy style while soloing, and as a bandleader. Listen to him playing as a sideman, he's actually really great. The contrast is startling.
u can take those and say ok he did this now im gonna change some stuff and make something out of it !!this dude is so correct though we all have our own the best most well known drummers are individuals
What a monster. I cried for ten minutes when he died. Went in for minor gallbladder surgery. I still get chocked up when I think about it, and I wonder what he would be doing now. :(
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@Hotjazzonmyface thats exactly what your not supposed to do! if you listen to him its cool and be inspired but not rip the guys licks off! they are his, maybe you can find your own? everyone has some i think...
@Hotjazzonmyface Classless comment, and no matter how many hours you put in copying Tony, you will never reach his level. Genius is singular; I'm sure your talent is less than.
I hear ya, but doesn't matter when someone like this dies, we always lose so much. How much did we lose when Mozart died at 35 yrs old? He was just starting at that age...
Find the YouTube of "Fred" played by Tony Williams for the best example of fusion drumming ever, along with the best recorded guitar solo ever by Alan Holdsworth. If you understand drums, you'll be stunned. If not, go back to Danny Carey.
Danny Carey. He sounded fat on TOOL's earlier stuff but now his playing is so predictable. Last thing of his I saw on youtube was incredibly boring. If you need blowing away check Thomas Pridgen - he wipes DC off the planet. Just my opinion.
wow! you arrogant little prick, if you knew anything you'd relaize that tony williams was one of the first ROCK drummers as well, and he probably wipes the floor with anyboy you claim to be a good drummer, even in his death.
i believe what you meant to say was "damn tony williams fucks me when it comes to drumming"
(cont) And the size of their drumsticks are the size of turkey drumstick legs. This idea of being hung, and then equating it to drums is sickening. Like I said, my rock star friends all play double rolls, typical single stroke rolls with their feet, and they sound like their falling down a flight of stairs. And they also only hit the snare on 2 and 4. It's more trickery than anything else. "Look ma, the puppet has strings...."
Please STOP comparing these mediocre rock drummers to Jazz Greats! Tony Williams and other Jazz drummers can play those basic beats rock drummers hide behind. But to the contrary, the rock drummer can't play what the Jazz drummers play. Rock drummers are like typical males with penis envy. They think getting a "bigger" drum, means they are better. I know rock stars personally and it crazy that size of their drums is like a drumset for giants. (cont)
Why do you "rock guys" always want to compare some mediocre rock drummer, like Travis Barker, to a jazz great like Tony Williams? Travis is a basic "marching band" kid drummer that happens to be in a rock band with a record out. But Travis fails when compared to "big boys" of drumming; i.e., Gadd, Mason, Williams, etc. Travis plays basic 2/4 beats and hides behind matching-band rudiments. Give me a break.
travis actually doesnt play any rudiments.. pretty much mostly singles. that very sorry excuse for rudimental snare he displays in that famous video is so f'n bad there is no way he can be considered a rudiment guy. not sure you should say somebody "hides behind rudiments" anyway... otherwise you would have to say steve gadd hides behind rudiments. but i agree with the point you are trying to make.
I agree. The point I was making by saying "rudiments" was meant - he, like you said, only plays basic single strokes & combinations. And yes, most drummers play rudiments esp. Mr. Gadd. But Gadd plays his ratamacue's and paradiddles with taste. As did Mr. Williams. I guess I'm tired of certain people putting "their" drummers on a pedestal while downing others.
I should have said hitting...surry for that!!
TheMoonchild1969 1 week ago
If I can play at least 5% of whatever Tony does, I would quit my 65K engineering job anytime. Sure I would be making more money in a night club, just by heating the hell out of a poor drumset. Nah! I think I will keep the engi job anyway, you know two paychecks instead of one. May he be playing in peace...godspeed Master Williams see you one of this days (like 45 years from now).
TheMoonchild1969 1 week ago
かっこいい
DEADMONSTER0721 3 weeks ago
00:55!!!!!
mambonumber9 1 month ago
Another lesson to be learned from this great master, volume control in the four limbs. Tony where are you now...comebak!
TheMoonchild1969 1 month ago
@TheMoonchild1969 He´s jamming in the Heavenly Jazz-Club with all the Greats who left us before ;)
triondrummer 1 week ago
It's not a wish or a comparative comment. Just my imagination getting sparked! I love Tony Williams and John Bonham for what they both contributed to drumming. I won't say that one is better or greater than the other. I will say that they are both invaluable to me because of the influence they have in their respective genres.
sparerib78 1 month ago
what would you think if Tony Williams was in Led Zeppelin? I wonder what they would have sounded like?
sparerib78 1 month ago 2
@sparerib78 Tony is better than John Bonham.
DukeVian 1 month ago
@sparerib78 Of all things to wish for, why Tony Williams in Zeppelin? lol
PeachesAndSkeet 1 month ago
Noob: "Tony, do you use a double pedal?"
Tony: "What is that?"
Noob: "Well, you see, it's two bass drum pedals connected so that you can play as if you had two bass dr-"
Tony: "Yeah, whatever. I'm gonna go practice now."
JazzyJonas 1 month ago 2
Tony Buddy Elvin and Jack. The 4 Masters ever!
compa61 1 month ago
In my oppinion this is the best drumsolo and drummer I´ve ever heard.
His musicality is amazing.
DrummerGandalf 1 month ago
The CD is "Live in Tokyo". Warriors is a great track.
pressrolls 2 months ago
This is the drum solo intro he played to "Geo Rose".
drummaman1 2 months ago
This tune is Sister Cheryl..?
NerfLad 2 months ago
he raises the bar
danielhenrycollins 2 months ago
the man was a class act
slammer726 2 months ago 2
Boy do I miss Tony! Originality....second to none. Musicality, dynamics,groove, unbelievable "flamology" KILLER drum sound. What a tremendous loss to the music world. Continues to inspire.
17drumhead 3 months ago
i dint care what you say. this shit is drumming! long live Tony Williams . very cool! love!
TheFunkyTonk 3 months ago in playlist TheFunkyTonk's favorites
what is this video from
drex48239 3 months ago
tony and joe morello are my favs
thomascompton800 4 months ago
Is when Tony was playing with Hurby?
DancesWithNarwhals 4 months ago
Hows that tuning?
kids, only Gretsch drums will sound killer with a phat tone when tuned high.
generatrix999 4 months ago
what is the name of this song, also why have you not uploaded the whole song, there are some real good solos from the pianist and clarinet player! please upload the whole thing!
rochroch2012 4 months ago
Big suprise? I always thought that Tony was playing on Ludwig drums !! deffently not on Gretch drums
Tfunkize 5 months ago
I hate the heads that he used in hit toms...."That Gretsch sound" with this drumheads was cut!!!
serenopiovoso 5 months ago
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@serenopiovoso I think most people would disagree with you.
17drumhead 3 months ago
MASTER!
jcacarov1 5 months ago in playlist Go For It 2: Tony Williams
Tony was one of those rare drummers who could actually play anything he wanted to, totally at one with his kit , he could whip out amazing stuff without any hindrance or difficulty , this left him free to play the drums like a horn player would , as an expressive musical instrument. Beautiful.
MacMic333 5 months ago
No way! It's 'Grew on keys!
RichardthePage 5 months ago
who's the drummer in Miles "in a silent way"? Hein? need to say more?
papagaio1696 5 months ago
holy cow that guy is insane in the membrane, wish i could play with just a fraction of his skill!
PeazyJay07 6 months ago
Its important to understand that Tony was a mad assed fusion player, with flams & a library of rudiments (many between hands & feet) and a power house, take no prisoners style, long before virtually all players became aware of this kind of playing. This is a guy that played for Miles Davis at the age of 16 - One hell of a calling card.
Jay435 6 months ago
I wish people would appreciate musicians - such as Buddy, Tony, et al - for what they have contributed to the world of music. Tony and Buddy knew who they were musically. And that's what they played - themselves. They weren't cheap clones and had a sound that was (is) musical and identifiable unto themselves. They also played successfully with some of the greatest musicians in the world. How many people that post these negative comments (drummer A is better than drummer B) can say that?
BillE2112 6 months ago
@BillE2112 I always try to say that I like a certain drummer's style more so that I let people know I don't think I'm the only one with an opinion. For example, I like the playing style of a lot of more modern drummers such as Thomas Pridgen or Tony Royster Jr. But I still have to sense to say that neither one is better or worse than Tony Williams or Buddy Rich or whomever I choose to compare them to. You can't objectively evaluate talent, which is a mistake so many people make trying to do...
SubwayStar7 6 months ago
He is really amizing. I am sure he could play heavy metal better than many metal drummers. His powerful groove sense is something that the jazz scene was not
prepared to absorbe. Something beyond his time...like any genius.
adjesbr 6 months ago
My Favorite Drum solo of all time.
jazzfusionsoul 7 months ago
Tony Williams IS a genius. He expressed his musicality that only a few could understand. The man is asleep and in no way should be compared to Buddy Rich. They both had their gifts in a period of time when racism excluded too many people. Such is neither BR's fault nor TW's fault. It's the fault of those who think they are better than the ones already BETTA!
SussQuatch 7 months ago
what's the year please ?
bucket740 8 months ago
woahh... never seen a floor tom setup like that.
RockDrummah96 8 months ago
mannnnn...now matter what era, i always loved his sound! ONE OF THEEE GREATEST!
fleetwoodbrawm 9 months ago
Fuck comparing drummers, sick of this youtube bullshit.
Buddy was a god, this guy's a god, it just comes down to taste.
Orancube 9 months ago
that's one solution to a missing/late bass player... cover for him! :)
rebusd 10 months ago
this is beautiful tony was powerful behind the kit like raw passion and uses his toms like he was communicating his feelings...like a native American would use a drum to convey a message...
TheTayedrums 10 months ago
Hi Holomorph271 thankyou very much for posting this... this song is one of my favourite songs with the pianist. Please upload the whole song... the full video pretty pretty pretty please...
Kind regards xxx
rochroch2012 10 months ago
Perfect!!
All the notes are puting together so right...
You still live in my heart tony
roip02 11 months ago
Intelligent, Articulate, powerful, so much precision you can set your watch to it, this is Tony Williams. We lost one of the greatest
ddrums001 11 months ago
@Emaculate As good a description as u can get ! That was funny as hell! Thank you for making my morning!
handsomesammatt 11 months ago
22", 13", 14",16" 18" ?"
thanks
dhundai 11 months ago
@dhundai hey there i think it was 9x13,10x14,14x14 floor 16x16 floor and 16x18 floor oldschool standard sizes which i like the tonality that comes with them and i knew he used zildjian K's and 15" hats that bass looked like maybe a 22x16?? 22x14 back in the day probably
TheTayedrums 10 months ago
@TheTayedrums 24x14!
thereallatebloomer 9 months ago
he has the power of ten rock drummers but with much grace.
troutmask1970 1 year ago
One of the best drum solos I've ever heard! Clear, powerful and concise is what it was.
71rubies 1 year ago
I LOVE THAT RUG
gegebarnabymuzza 1 year ago
Add to- Favorites.
KnockOut22 1 year ago
love this guy
FR2T 1 year ago
He's a great player.
JazzCat60 1 year ago
his drums sound like wet cardboard boxes!!!
Rockunstank 1 year ago
nice!
minoustudio 1 year ago
Can anyone post the full version to this?
P.s. tony williams you are a genius.
AndyEater 1 year ago
The brilliant Mullgrew Miller on piano with the immortal Tony.
vealcutlet 1 year ago
This guy has the strangest style I've ever seen...
VitalSigns1 1 year ago
is 0:26 the 3 over 2 3 over 1 pattern??
jacko767 1 year ago
wow i see even Terry bozzio stole his melodic licks at 0:30.
DrummerBoyJustin 1 year ago
@DrummerBoyJustin haha damn nice catch, i thought it sounded familiar
Coppola63 1 year ago
many good drummers have learned patience, to allow for silences, and to wait on the rhythm. They tend toward the style of expression we call "jazz"
PJSnodgrass 1 year ago
Dude his drum heads are squared out with soundcontrols. I do that with ambassadors on my snare.
TheParallelReality 1 year ago
damnit, what song is this?
mjunhyb 1 year ago
wow, could tony make moving around the toms look any easier ?
kickinitonthetube 1 year ago
Tony was working with Buckethead and Bill Laswell in a band called Arcana when he died, I think. Check out "Arc of the Testimony" Tony Williams deserved to be called one of the greatest rock drummers ever, in addition to jazz.
1Eu4ic 1 year ago
NOT ENOUGH VIDEOS OF TONY
TheDice2008 1 year ago
I don't live for harleys but I share your sentiments, my bro. RIP Tony, I miss you.
UsWalloadMyPride 1 year ago
Just the fact that T W played with the legend that was Miles Davis at the young age of 17 says more than any other comment can come across. I had the good fortune to see T W a number of times here in NYC and he was one of the drummers in which "holy shit" says it all. I was heartbroken and mourned when I heard he died. They say the good die young. In his case, the GREAT die young. If you ever have the chance to see a closeup of his set, you will see a tiny circle where he hit the head everytime
ilive4harleys 1 year ago
I love Tony ....Great romantic Drummer....R.I.P.
chiccocapiozzo77 1 year ago
he is the man......
SuperBiancos 1 year ago
Mestre, Master Great !!
Augustopadovani 1 year ago
You tube is such a weird place. People feel free to leave comments like 'jazz sucks...it's a good thing he's dead...'! WTF? Only a pea-brained fucking low life would stoop to trash like that. If you don't get Tony, you just don't get drums! End of! You can practice for 20 years, 8 hours a day and you'll never sound as unique as this. There was only one Tony Williams, a true genius, who was so good at age 17 he changed the way Miles played.
InnAb109 1 year ago
I could never make CS heads sound like this.
JohnD72277 1 year ago
gotta luv the style and flashyness of the soloist!!!
rockitmanley 1 year ago
drum ONAN ! ! !
CosmicSPC 1 year ago
What song are they playing?
gbc520 1 year ago
tony williams,elvin jones,roy haynes.....swing masters.
ultimatefighter187 1 year ago
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Drums sound BAD..
Patrickphx11 1 year ago
oh tony! des gens comme toi,ou christian vander ,elvin jones ,daniel humair,charles saudrais,andré ceccarelli,vous m'avez donnés la vie!de ton paradi des batteur,illumine nous toujours,éternellement!...didier d'agostino batteur sur youtube la fenètre magique!
dagostinoification 1 year ago
@dagostinoification ...ou encore les batteurs parisiens de la belle epoque, Lolo Bellonzi, Jacques Thollot, Franco Manzecchi, Aldo Romano...
memzehni 1 year ago
@ memzehni jai Bien j.thollot Connu , 2mecs lolo Bellonzi supers simpas ! et très bon JE croisait Aldo Romano CE coloriste riverbop au super , franco je-ne- Connu lai Pas . C'EST Bien de Leur rendre hommage ! merci ! au plaisir de te connaitre memzehni ! appel moi ! d ' Agostino batteur sur youtube,myspace,daily motion.
dagostinoification 1 year ago
DAmn you can see that he REALLY influenced JoJo Mayer!
jp60476 1 year ago
amazing.......such a great drummer
greendude229 1 year ago
what a master
weeblum91 1 year ago
Mulgrew Miller on Piano?
luke2thab 1 year ago
Me like.
Phagedaena 1 year ago
I met Tony when I was 13. He was really gracious, and he even gave me a pair of sticks ! RIP
tadd1 1 year ago
@tadd1 ...and Elvin himself gave me a pair of sticks when I was 12... theses guys really were generous...!
memzehni 1 year ago
Tony is one of the best and most influential drummers of all time period, sadly he died much too young
zuppa100 1 year ago
= Awesome.
cfyves 1 year ago
It looks like the piano player is watching someone smoke his last joint with out him.
emaculate 1 year ago 58
@emaculate that made the video worth watching alone.
gacktxrawr 9 months ago
@gacktxrawr hahhaa i know right.the look on his face screams" you dirty mother fucker."
emaculate 9 months ago
@emaculate You would too if you had to follow up Tony Williams. haha :)
SeanFrancisMusic 7 months ago
@emaculate hahahahahahahahah cheers mate!!
okatsarolas 5 months ago
@okatsarolas Cheers!!
emaculate 5 months ago
Many others would do well to listen to Tony. His playing lives on and is a true source of pleasure for all...
Thanks for this post.
AONTrombone 1 year ago
these drums sound incredible
danielsantosdrums 1 year ago 2
I love Tony but I feel like he would hit the drums and cymbals too hard... and after the sixties his solos were generally too busy (in my opinion).
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
@Whatisthescore He plays with consummate dynamics, ppp to FFF. His philosophy changed jazz drumming. "Drums are meant to be hit" and thus ended the era where drummers had to feather the kick drum all the time to stay under the bass. His solos used far more of the kit in a melodic way than the vaudeville era drummers that preceded him (like Buddy.)
Acrylicdrums 1 year ago
@Acrylicdrums but also realize the acoustic bass had to use pickups in order to have enough volume to compete with that style of drumming.. to me that hurts the swing because the bass doesn't use the pluck as much to drive the groove.
Whatisthescore 1 year ago
@Whatisthescore That's debateable, because that's the same as saying no electric jazz has swing/groove compared to acoustic. That's more timing than amplification in my book. Acoustic is simply a different format, I can't say music swings more just because the stand bass is acoustic.
Acrylicdrums 1 year ago
@Acrylicdrums As Max Roach once said, "It's not about how fast or how hard you can play." Tony never created the type of rhythms max or philly did on the drums and it didn't take the idea of "drums are meant to be hit' to create such ideas. They could play just as fast without having to smash their drums.
slick82958 1 year ago
@slick82958 Have you heard the later records that Tony did? Tony had perfect dynamic control over his drums, he's one of the most important drummers in the history of both bebop AND fusion.
ryder187mac 1 year ago 6
@ryder187mac apparently you didn't read what i said. I never said that he didn't have dynamic control or that he wasn't important in bebop or fusion. Tony's years in the 2nd great quintet are among my favorite recordings, which by then, his drumming could be classified as fusion. So i agree, that he's extremely important in bebop and fusion. I love him in his lifetime group and trio of doom is another favorite. Sure he had dynamic control but...just go back and read what I'm talking about.
slick82958 1 year ago
@slick82958 Well, you talk of a melodic approach then... still, I think Tony was very musical. Maybe in his own way and not in the way that you like, but I still think he's a one of a kind drummer.
ryder187mac 1 year ago 12
@ryder187mac In his own way and not in the way I like? And no where did i say that he's not a one of a kind drummer. You keep summing it up that I'm bashing him or that he wasn't different, none of which is the case. Jazz musicians often take the melody to form a solo. You me and a lot of other people can agree on that right? They shape it into various forms. Tony WIlliams in his later years often just showed his dynamic control or how fast and hard he could play. See what I'm saying?
slick82958 1 year ago
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LBSmashMusic 3 months ago
@Acrylicdrums That's debatable. I find it funny that when the people who love Tony bring up drummers before him, they only bring up Buddy (a drummer I'm not actually into). What happened to Max, Elvin, Jimmy or Philly? Philly and Elvin hit the drums pretty hard my friend yet what they have that Tony doesn't, is actually a melodic approach. Tony's 2nd great quintet years are amazing but afterward, other videos show that he just hit as hard and as fast as he could.
slick82958 1 year ago
@slick82958 ...I don't agree... he just found a way to express his ideas in a very funky way. He's quit his earlier loose approach for a certain - let's say - machismo. You like it or not. Most prefer the previous Tony with Miles. I like 'em both. I surely agree to your point belonging Buddy Rich. Some people don't get the Cobb thing behind Tony's playing. And our real "dads" are definetely Philly Joe, Cobb, Roy, Max, for sure. We don't forget Papa Joe Jones, Klook, Big Sid and Cozy Cole, right?
memzehni 1 year ago
@memzehni Ah definitely Jo Jones and Kook! and cant forget Chick Webb either ;) I see what your saying on the matter, I definitely do and believe me, regardless of whether I feel he is melodic or not, I love his playing from both eras. It has nothing to do with tony, mainly to do with the people who take it over the top with him. Tony and Buddy are usually the only ones referred to (as noted by the original comment i made to a user that you commented on) just trying to spread the word.
slick82958 1 year ago
@slick82958 ...how could I ever forget Chick Webb, Buhaina, Shadow Wilson, Tiny Khan... the list is endless. I think I got your point belonging Tony / Buddy already in your comment before ;)
memzehni 1 year ago
Some nice chops there, i love Tony Williams's drumming, he is unique!
muscritiq80 1 year ago
the sound is fantastic! what on earth are you on about?
willdrummer88 1 year ago
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Love Tony...but his drums sound like shit!!!
Rockunstank 1 year ago
Well, yeah. My freind used to work on them and he said they were awful. But it is all part of his unique sound. Dudes on another level. Even the color is signature.
a5dr3 1 year ago
Yeah...you are a wanker. This sound IS part of Tony Williams.
RoyalChant 1 year ago
@RoyalChant it's pretty hard to make a Gretsch kit sound this bad...
Rockunstank 1 year ago
Buddy Rich could have been the white Max Roach but he was never good enough. Kenny Clarke and Max Roach created the matrix $tyle that Buddy copied. ****************Tony Williams was so brilliant Jackie McLean hired him at 16 and Miles Davis snatched him at 17!!
SubRosaStructure 1 year ago
BR had too many predjudices and paradigms to play like Max or Tony. Buddy was a hardliner who believed in a certain kit setup, no practice, no overarching or soiphisticated concepts. Tony played pocket.groove, Buddy tried to fill every second with a note. Max was a high-concept/melodic player. He was a far more educated and intellectual man than Buddy.
Acrylicdrums 1 year ago 13
@Acrylicdrums
Teach! : D
I'd love to see Tony playing "Emergency" with the original Lifetime lineup of John McLaughlin, Larry Young and Tony! x D
SubRosaStructure 1 year ago
I have the album, I'd also love a video.
Acrylicdrums 1 year ago
@Acrylicdrums Well said and I agree
Trimbler00 10 months ago
@Acrylicdrums Add to that that Max Roach was an avid player in promoting Civil Rights for most of his life. I would've loved to meet the man, he shared my birthday and sounded like such a deep dude.
pickinstone 9 months ago
@Acrylicdrums
Buddy only had that bombastic, unmusical, showoffy style while soloing, and as a bandleader. Listen to him playing as a sideman, he's actually really great. The contrast is startling.
colourfulwithaU 8 months ago
"Never good enough?" "Copied?" Lol! Ridiculous! Your subjective opinion--nothing more.
williamson609 1 year ago
Tony Williams was the black Buddy Rich.
TheDirectorofFoo 1 year ago
It's all good, but 0:51 seconds.... now I need a third floor tom
teetomthomas 2 years ago
FANTASTIC. i absolutely love tony williams' playing. he is truly an inspiration to drummers and all musicians...
Lv2drum93087 2 years ago 2
Whenever I hear one of Tony's solos it always seems like there are two drummers playing. He was that amazing...
gork830 2 years ago
What song is this? I need it
RizzoSaurusRex 2 years ago
u can take those and say ok he did this now im gonna change some stuff and make something out of it !!this dude is so correct though we all have our own the best most well known drummers are individuals
ediot6969 2 years ago 2
his snare sounds awesome
ilikedrumming 2 years ago
107 to 109 Very cool!
webstercat 2 years ago
wooo !! what a great musicality !!! tony is the best !!
giosmrbig 2 years ago 2
Think im gunna try a clear snare skin, wonder what the advantages are?
Helslinky 2 years ago
not as snappy. listen to it on the vid. it has a plasticky/woody sound. Not a cracking wood, likea hollow wood
VoteOlegForJesus08 2 years ago
50%rock50%jazz 100% TONY WILLIAMS
MrCarlotonini 2 years ago 5
100% agree wth you man! Rock or Jazz he excels.
orlyguevarra 2 years ago
What a monster. I cried for ten minutes when he died. Went in for minor gallbladder surgery. I still get chocked up when I think about it, and I wonder what he would be doing now. :(
Davethreshold 2 years ago 16
He's not dead as long as we continue to rip off his licks!
Hotjazzonmyface 2 years ago 70
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@Hotjazzonmyface thats exactly what your not supposed to do! if you listen to him its cool and be inspired but not rip the guys licks off! they are his, maybe you can find your own? everyone has some i think...
artikelmusic 2 years ago
@Hotjazzonmyface comment of the week
willV 1 year ago
@willV i mean for comments i've read this week, or for comments posted the week you posted it!
willV 1 year ago
@Hotjazzonmyface Classless comment, and no matter how many hours you put in copying Tony, you will never reach his level. Genius is singular; I'm sure your talent is less than.
mmlight 1 year ago
@Hotjazzonmyface tasteless prick
sgkaran 1 year ago
@Hotjazzonmyface .... which will be forever and ever
sweetfly66 1 year ago
@Davethreshold
I hear ya, but doesn't matter when someone like this dies, we always lose so much. How much did we lose when Mozart died at 35 yrs old? He was just starting at that age...
givinitsome 2 years ago
@Davethreshold
hed be sheddin double bass and playin like a monster. some tech jazz deathmetal mix
zandiskoul 1 year ago
simply the best !!! rock on !!!!
ramonanimal145 2 years ago
beat at 1:25 is great
ackeiswetter 2 years ago
Find the YouTube of "Fred" played by Tony Williams for the best example of fusion drumming ever, along with the best recorded guitar solo ever by Alan Holdsworth. If you understand drums, you'll be stunned. If not, go back to Danny Carey.
roccovaselino 2 years ago
Danny Carey. He sounded fat on TOOL's earlier stuff but now his playing is so predictable. Last thing of his I saw on youtube was incredibly boring. If you need blowing away check Thomas Pridgen - he wipes DC off the planet. Just my opinion.
jesselondon72 2 years ago
@jesselondon72 or chris dave
ilikememusic 2 years ago
wow! simply amazing!
JDrumChannel 2 years ago
Is that his foot? That is pretty fucking fast...
VirusMan254 2 years ago
LOFL The comment that was removed by steroidR4bigmen was hilarious.
ryne5 2 years ago
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Jazz sucks! Fuck jazz and anybody that listens to it!
ryne5 2 years ago
wow! you arrogant little prick, if you knew anything you'd relaize that tony williams was one of the first ROCK drummers as well, and he probably wipes the floor with anyboy you claim to be a good drummer, even in his death.
i believe what you meant to say was "damn tony williams fucks me when it comes to drumming"
SiCmetalfan 2 years ago 2
Just so you know, no jazz, no rock 'n' roll. Check it out.
yulelovethebeats 2 years ago
poor you ,ignorant!!!!!
sarpelecupene 2 years ago
@ryne5 fuck you too smallcock! go back to beatin off!
taiyo06 2 years ago
how awesome is this , he played soo clean, u can hear every strike of the drum even when he is cruising
frankantony 2 years ago
(cont) And the size of their drumsticks are the size of turkey drumstick legs. This idea of being hung, and then equating it to drums is sickening. Like I said, my rock star friends all play double rolls, typical single stroke rolls with their feet, and they sound like their falling down a flight of stairs. And they also only hit the snare on 2 and 4. It's more trickery than anything else. "Look ma, the puppet has strings...."
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago
Please STOP comparing these mediocre rock drummers to Jazz Greats! Tony Williams and other Jazz drummers can play those basic beats rock drummers hide behind. But to the contrary, the rock drummer can't play what the Jazz drummers play. Rock drummers are like typical males with penis envy. They think getting a "bigger" drum, means they are better. I know rock stars personally and it crazy that size of their drums is like a drumset for giants. (cont)
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago
Why do you "rock guys" always want to compare some mediocre rock drummer, like Travis Barker, to a jazz great like Tony Williams? Travis is a basic "marching band" kid drummer that happens to be in a rock band with a record out. But Travis fails when compared to "big boys" of drumming; i.e., Gadd, Mason, Williams, etc. Travis plays basic 2/4 beats and hides behind matching-band rudiments. Give me a break.
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago 5
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anonymousfury 2 years ago
travis actually doesnt play any rudiments.. pretty much mostly singles. that very sorry excuse for rudimental snare he displays in that famous video is so f'n bad there is no way he can be considered a rudiment guy. not sure you should say somebody "hides behind rudiments" anyway... otherwise you would have to say steve gadd hides behind rudiments. but i agree with the point you are trying to make.
frankbombs 2 years ago
I agree. The point I was making by saying "rudiments" was meant - he, like you said, only plays basic single strokes & combinations. And yes, most drummers play rudiments esp. Mr. Gadd. But Gadd plays his ratamacue's and paradiddles with taste. As did Mr. Williams. I guess I'm tired of certain people putting "their" drummers on a pedestal while downing others.
fnkdrmmr 2 years ago
fragagordo "knows a lot of music" but doesn't know music well enough to know it's not a competition.
paxsonkev 2 years ago 2
Drum Corps?
collartrance 1 year ago
Much more.
catthehank 1 year ago
Much much more.
catthehank 1 year ago