Nice song. BTW, I spent most of my life trying to make sense out of the world and human beings by embracing science and trying to get a firm grip on reality and truth. I wanted to be a paranormal investigator and even had subscriptions to Skeptical Inquirer, but had to cancel it. You see, I see auras. I get extra information from people I can see. I used to wake up by bouncing up and down on my bed somehow. I've been abducted by greys with my brother and have seen a UFO with my friend.
I've had intense synchronicity for several years where impossible things happened to me almost daily. And when I finally learned of The Law of Attraction and the Indigo children, every single weird thing about me made sense.
@JimtheHermit1 I am 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% certain I am a first wave volunteer soul that used to be an extra-terrestial in my last life. Because that's what I've always felt and found there are others like me- who feel the same as me. It too 41 years of searching but I've finally found people like me.
@JimtheHermit1 I sorry that you don't have the tools and experiences to believe what I say. It is my nature to share what I know and teach. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if you do or not. I just wish you guys were actually "skeptical" of the paranormal. But, it's obvious that you are quite convinced there are no paranormal things out there and refuse to examine the claims.
@JimtheHermit1 There are no paranormal things, because when something so-called "paranormal" is proved, it becomes normal. So, paranormal is synonym to non-proven. Second, you are weak-minded, you believe because you need to believe, you need to have a meaning to your life, so you just fill that hole with the most comfortable thing you encounter, not being able to admit that you could be wrong or that maybe you wont ever know. Get past that fear folk, gnosticism is gullibility.
October 22nd : The Rapture's supposed to have happened. Harold Camping has tried this before, in the mid-90's. You think people would have looked him up on Wikipedia and refused to believe his idiocy. One things for sure - the world may as well have ended yesterday for all his deluded followers.
the other night some guy posted a quantum woowoo vid on a friends facebook page, when i made the quote 'people who think they understand quantum mechanics... don't" (a quote from a man who's work is often deliberately misrepresented by the Q-woowoo crowd) i was called all sorts of names, accused of being a negative, suppressive person, who just wants to make himself feel superior to other with big words. then my carefully, respectfully worded rebuttals were deleted. this song strikes a chord.
This song perfectly represents how I often feel. I have pissed off a lot of people and ruined a relationship with my skepticism... it's good to know that there are others who think alike...!
Superb. Very well done. A little way in I was thinking this is like Tim Minchin but it won't be as good, but, I dunno, I think you're up there with him with this one mate.
Thanks much Eddie for the heads-up about putting the lyrics on your website. Makes it so much easier. Now, on to the guitar to work on the music part. This is going to be a lot of fun!
This is great! I'm going to share it at "Show and Tell" with my Freethinkers group. (Yes, we really do have "Show and Tell." It's for us to display the fact that People Really Do Believe Some Crazy Shit.)
Cute song. A couple things... The appeal to 'common sense' at the beginning is unwise IMHO. And I wonder how Eddie approached his friends Dave and Tina. Did he act like 'a jerk,' or with understanding and compassion about their having been scared about autism by Jenny McBimbo? The skepticism works better when the audience is not already around the bend (like Thomas), and when the skeptic employs some empathy along with scientific evidence.
Very funny, and just how I feel too, sometimes. It can be very lonely up here on my high horse ;-) Great, uplifting ending BTW! I'll definitely be sharing this. Looking forward to more of your work. Congratulations.
Great stuff! The meshing of funny with science and rationality make this simply a gem. I have downloaded it and will soon be sharing it with others. Next step is to get your lyrics down on paper, grab my guitar and work on getting this thing down. Will make for a very fun song around the campfire this summer. Many thanks Eddie. Look forward to much more from you in the very near future.
If you haven't seen and/or heard Tim Minchin's "Storm," you should check it out. 9 minutes of comedic perfection that covers almost all of your points in a "beat" poem. Hilarious. (The video appears to have been removed from youtube, but an audio track with text is still up there.)
@folboteur Seen it. Love it. I'm a big Tim Minchin fan. In fact, every time I considered 'softening' some of my lyrics, I would ask myself, "what would Tim do?' and I'd leave them the way they are!
Today I woke up with an overwhelming sense of gratitude to my middle school science teacher, who on the first day of 6th grade told us that "God did it" was not an acceptable answer in his class. For no particularly reason- I haven't thought about the guy in years. I think, if he's still alive, he'd like this video quite a bit.
@EddieScott1957 Well I like to play stupid songs at the end of the night. Not that I think your song is stupid, quite the contrary it was very touching. But that is the only time I could probably get away with playing all eight minutes of it.
It's okay though as i do have a few atheist oriented dance tracks. For example, XTC's "Dear God" is always a good jam.
Keep up the good work, I look forward to other songs.
@masterplan8 Flying? Yep, science. Light bulb? Yep, science. Round world? Yep, science. Humans using fire? Wheel? Electricity? It's all science. Inventing is science. "Working stuff out" is science. Science isn't some textbook, it's noticing something worked well last time and trying it again. For better science, you write down what worked so you can try to make it better next time, and ask other people what they think. It's working out how to harness the natural world.
@EddieScott1957 Thanks for replying to my comment. I'm dismayed my comment was removed for too many negative votes. I really didn't mean it to be nasty, I was making a half, no quarter, serious statement that some people who lack in unfounded beliefs can be less than creative. But I was completely serious about this being a good song, with some great accompanying pictures. I would personally remove the one of Jim Carrey though. That guy got off *that* crazy train.
@masterplan8 Doesn't work that way. You make a claim, you provide evidence for that claim. You don't get to wave it off or tell someone to prove you wrong. If that's your style of argument, then rational people can't debate you. You don't agree to abide by the same rules of logic and reason that they do.
I can really sympathise with this song. I still remember that awkward moment when I was on lunch break with a bunch of co-workers and the subject of naturopathy came up, coupled with some tin-foil hat theories about Big Pharma deliberately poisoning people for profit. I made the mistake of voicing my opinion. It wasn't very popular.
@Phlebas The drift away from nature to the scientific ways is a disaster!!! Big Pharma is poisoning you. The scientific food system and medical system has been a total failure. How do I know? Well in the last 70 years cancer rates exploded from 1 in 30 and will be 1 in 2 by 2020. Obesity rates? 80% of the public is Obese!!!!
The scientific food production diseases the body, then is poisoned by big pharma with pills, and when there are side effects from them, they have another pill for that. Wake
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This song sounds like a scientific person wrote and sung it. Hmmm maybe that's why outside of youtube you will never hear of this guy again.
Well it's good someone believed the world wasn't flat. It's good that someone didn't believe it was impossible to invent the light bulb.
It's good someone didn't believe it was impossible to fly.
because I'm sure a lot of people believed these someones were batsh%^T crazy when they said they were going to make these things happen. Who is this guy again?
@masterplan8 And yet, every time, regarding the light bulb, the round earth, flight and so on and so forth, it was the scientists who did it. Funny, that.
@jumpmonkey03 So my question to you is what are you? Do you think science created you from a one cell organism into a fully grown human being? Do you think science had ANYTHING to do with that? Answer is a resounding Hell no! There is an intelligence far greater than primitive science, that you and this guy talk and sing about. What makes you breath while your sleeping or awake? Because you don't control it. Science is very limiting and they are up against a wall as I write. This may be to deep.
@masterplan8 Humans are the result of billions of years of natural selection with an element of chance mutation, but I see where this is going. It's called the argument from ignorance. "You don't have an answer, I do; therefore my argument wins." I suppose you're also presenting a false dilemma in that you suggest the only two possibilities are the current model or god. The problem is that you need evidence to support an argument. And you never did answered my question.
@TennysonXII Sorry, I should include genetic drift and sexual selection as playing a role in human evolution. And "current model" should be "current scientific model"
@TennysonXII You have no idea if what your saying is remotely close to being true. Your guessing like everyone else. I do know there is a universal energy that flows through everything thing on this planet, which you can feel it, if your in touch with the natural world. Maybe your not, I don't know. I don't believe in any religion they are man made. The natural world shows us the path to everything that we have built or created, with the use of science, which has tried to copy or reproduce natu.
@TennysonXII If you want to break down what I said as fallacies, go ahead but I would first look at yourself to see if anything your saying is true, can be proven, or can hold a candle to the wind.
@TennysonXII It is really funny that you can sit here and explain where Human beings origins are, something that happened who knows when, but you and scientists have no idea how the human brain even really works, something that is happening right now!!! Or what is under most of the ocean!!! Lol!! Your logic is completely retarded and unprovable.
1. Straw Man - You say science didn't produce humans. Nobody would disagree with you. The effects of natural laws lead to human beings, not the scientific process.
2. Appeal to authority - you say Einstein believed in a god, and that musicians do too. This doesn't matter in the slightest. What matters is that there isn't any evidence to support your claim that god exists.
3. Argument from ignorance - you assert that because scientists haven't discovered what causes some things to happen in the quantum world, that consciousness does it. Remember that just because we don't know the answer doesn't mean that you get to make unfounded assertions
4. Red herring - the idea that quantum physics is affected by human consciousness has nothing to do with whether any gods exist.
There are a lot of arguments you use with whose formal names I'm not familiar. There's also a bunch of misinformation.
5. What causes you to breath while your asleep? Bits of your brainstem.
6. No scientist is saying that quantum physics changes how we view things on a macro level, nor are most facts suddenly doubted. Most things on the macro level aren't even directly affected by findings in quantum physics.
@TennysonXII Look science comes from the study of the natural world, therefore science is a by product of the natural world. The natural world reigns supreme, as science tries to imitate it at every turn and continues to do so as we write. Trying to pull it a part, kill it, replicate it, and analyze it, etc.. Everything that has been invented has been because it was rip off of the natural world. Science is here because of the natural world not the other way around. End of story! Con't
9. Ad Hominem - "Where did humans come from rocket scientist?"
10. Argument from ignorance - just because we don't fully comprehend how something works (the brain, for instance) doesn't mean that you get to wildly speculate without evidence.
Getting bored of deconstructing your arguments, maybe someone else will take up the job.
@TennysonXII Universal energy exists, source energy exsits, I never said God, I said that's what a lot of people like to call it. We are vibration and everything we do comes from a vibration. Could you agree with this? Hearing, seeing , voice, energy, atoms vibrate, etc etc.
7. Post hoc ergo propter hoc - you assert that the rise of pharmaceuticals has lead to an increase in cancer and obesity. It's possible that we see more cancer because we have better methods of detection. Obesity is likely caused by poor dietary and exercise habits.
8. Appeal to nature - you say that big pharma is bad because it isn't natural. Snake bites and hemlock are natural too, but I'd rather not be subjected to either.
@TennysonXII I like how your wading into something you have no clue about, and you put in the word "Possible" You just don't know what you are talking about or are being an apologist for Big Pharma and it's poisonous ways. Obesity is caused by poor dietary habits? Really??? Not sh@#$t! Where has the poor diet come from? Preserved food products, chemical preservatives, pesticides, herbicides, etc...before the 1900's there wasn't any of that around. Cont.
@masterplan8 Ok, awesome. You just made a claim: "There is an intelligence far greater than primitive science." Here's how it works from this point on: Ball's in your court. Prove it.
@jumpmonkey03 Ask any great musician or scientist like an Einstein where there solutions or songs came from, and they will tell you they don't know or they would try and explain from the infinite source energy that we all are, universal energy/consciousness, most humans like to call it the singular GOD from there limited understanding. Read up on Einstein. Science is like your brain a tool your not taking it with you when you die. Science have found that under Quantum Physics that there
@jumpmonkey03 Under Quantum Physics scientists have found that there experiments are no longer valid, due to the changing nature of consciousness. They have found the experiment changes depending on who is watching it and therefore they cannot get a reliable measurement, because consciousness is like a river and changes on who ever is focusing n it. You can create your own reality, which you do everyday. Everything in your life is there because you believe it to be.
@masterplan8 What!? I don't get to be famous!?? Damn, and that's why I wrote the song (and surely you're not equating the light bulb and basic geography to nonsense like auras and homeopathy?)
Actually, the funniest part of your post was you referring to me as a "scientific person" - given the fact that chemistry is the only class I got a D in in high school, and I nearly flunked basic algebra in college, I'm pretty sure people can be skeptical of that claim!
@EddieScott1957 First off it is very stiff and cynical. And no you will not be famous, not until you put a little more heart and soul into your music will you even have a chance. My questio to you is what are you? You were a one cell organism that grew into a human being. Do you think Science had anything to do with that? See there is an intelligence far greater than your beloved primitive science. Who controls your breathing? Science can't even tell you that. Your skepticism just limits what
@EddieScott1957 What is possible for you and your life. I'm sure if I told you I was going to make a 600,000(747) pound chunk of metal/aluminum fly, you would have thought I was crazy, but it happened. That one guy dreamed it was possible and made it work. I bet a million skeptics said here couldn't do it. Yes you do have a energy and aura around at all times, we all do. We are far more magical that the mainstream world will have you believe. It's the people who think outside of the box which
@masterplan8 I really really really do not want to prolong this silliness, but I do have to say that I grew up in Seattle, half my family works for Boeing, and I know a bit about 747s and other aircraft. And it's science - in all of its glory - that makes them fly. And if there were skeptics who doubted it could happen, they changed their minds when presented with evidence (provided, again, by science) and accepted the facts. That's how it works!
@EddieScott1957 Last question Aerospace boy...Where di they come up with the idea to fly in the first place? Could is be nature or something called a bird? Did science make that bird? Science is here because of nature no the other way around mate. So you can thank nature for you families jobs.
@masterplan8 Aerospace boy?? Really?? Well, I guess you showed me. But this really is my final word, as I actually have a job, which I no doubt owe not to my education, skills, experience and the fact that the people who employ me have created a business model which allows them to pay me, but rather to something in nature, like the wind, or a worm, or the tides or, well, something. Live long and prosper, oh thou great understander of nature's providence!
@EddieScott1957 Guess so...You really should be working instead of playing on the computer and wasting your slave masters time. It's no doubt that it is an industry that was made up, as is the money is only idea, that you believe in, therefore you think it is real. Thank you I will live very long, and I have already prospered under this illusionary system that we all made up, see I don't have a slave master, I am the slave master get to work before I report you.
@EddieScott1957 have created the things that the skeptical naysayers said couldn't be done. If you think like the masses you will get massive mediocrity, which is fine, just do think anything magical will happen. With great leaps in consciousness come great leaps in humanity, by the 100th monkey principle(look it up) Peace and put a little more feeling into your music and anything will be possible for you.. good luck!!!
@bluntpunk83 There is circumstantial evidence of UFOS. Unidentified being the key word. There are things in the sky that haven't been accounted for. The only scientist against vaccines is Wakefield and his experiment was too small in scope and was not sampled randomly as well as falsifying data.
I've had the "homeopathy is crap" conversation so many times, but I've never thought about the fact that every cup of water has dissolved a HUGE amount of shit over the eons. Thank you for this.
@mauk4678 Thanks, but, giving credit where credit is due, I first heard that idea expressed in Tim Minchin's song "Storm." Another brilliant insight from Mr. Minchin!
catchy little tune ...
bettylynn284 1 month ago
Nice song. BTW, I spent most of my life trying to make sense out of the world and human beings by embracing science and trying to get a firm grip on reality and truth. I wanted to be a paranormal investigator and even had subscriptions to Skeptical Inquirer, but had to cancel it. You see, I see auras. I get extra information from people I can see. I used to wake up by bouncing up and down on my bed somehow. I've been abducted by greys with my brother and have seen a UFO with my friend.
JimtheHermit1 1 month ago
@JimtheHermit1
I've had intense synchronicity for several years where impossible things happened to me almost daily. And when I finally learned of The Law of Attraction and the Indigo children, every single weird thing about me made sense.
JimtheHermit1 1 month ago
@JimtheHermit1 I am 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% certain I am a first wave volunteer soul that used to be an extra-terrestial in my last life. Because that's what I've always felt and found there are others like me- who feel the same as me. It too 41 years of searching but I've finally found people like me.
JimtheHermit1 1 month ago
@JimtheHermit1 I sorry that you don't have the tools and experiences to believe what I say. It is my nature to share what I know and teach. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if you do or not. I just wish you guys were actually "skeptical" of the paranormal. But, it's obvious that you are quite convinced there are no paranormal things out there and refuse to examine the claims.
JimtheHermit1 1 month ago
@JimtheHermit1 There are no paranormal things, because when something so-called "paranormal" is proved, it becomes normal. So, paranormal is synonym to non-proven. Second, you are weak-minded, you believe because you need to believe, you need to have a meaning to your life, so you just fill that hole with the most comfortable thing you encounter, not being able to admit that you could be wrong or that maybe you wont ever know. Get past that fear folk, gnosticism is gullibility.
alelp 4 hours ago
@JimtheHermit1 Cool story bro.
fireflygeek 4 weeks ago in playlist Forever Free
Loved it.
shaneanthonypitts 3 months ago
October 22nd : The Rapture's supposed to have happened. Harold Camping has tried this before, in the mid-90's. You think people would have looked him up on Wikipedia and refused to believe his idiocy. One things for sure - the world may as well have ended yesterday for all his deluded followers.
micmac274 4 months ago in playlist Atheist Music Videos
love it. it fits me perfectly. sometimes its hard to hold back when friends and family believe crazy shit.
vhehn 4 months ago
Awesome song, I feel better from the identification!
LifeofAwe 5 months ago
Thumbs up if u watch this video whenever you want to refresh your mind after arguing with your woo woo believer friend!
valkotchetov 7 months ago 5
too bad I can relate:p
fcdog555 8 months ago
Story of my fucking life.
RavenBoy91 8 months ago 6
Has to be one of my favorite songs of all time now. Hilarious, and so true....
theangrygimp 8 months ago
@anthonygrg Thanks!
EddieScott1957 8 months ago
From one skeptic in the room to another. Best of its kind I've ever seen and heard!
humanist7117 8 months ago 9
@humanist7117 You're too kind! Thanks.
EddieScott1957 8 months ago
the other night some guy posted a quantum woowoo vid on a friends facebook page, when i made the quote 'people who think they understand quantum mechanics... don't" (a quote from a man who's work is often deliberately misrepresented by the Q-woowoo crowd) i was called all sorts of names, accused of being a negative, suppressive person, who just wants to make himself feel superior to other with big words. then my carefully, respectfully worded rebuttals were deleted. this song strikes a chord.
daiklaive 8 months ago
Any chance of getting an MP3 download? I would love to buy one.
LogicandDreams 9 months ago
@LogicandDreams I'm willing to put an mp3 out there for people to download; just not sure how you do that.
EddieScott1957 9 months ago
@EddieScott1957 Well I am not the person to ask but I'm sure someone here (or a Google search) can illuminate you.
LogicandDreams 9 months ago
@LogicandDreams Good point. So, yeah, turns out it's not that tough. The file's now downloadable at my blog: TheSkepticInTheRoom.blogspot.com.
EddieScott1957 9 months ago
I love this! The vaccine part out of all of them since that's one stupid fucking belief that can be fatal.
artman2oo3 10 months ago
This is great! Love it!
misterdeity 11 months ago 13
@misterdeity Thanks! That means a lot, coming from God and all!!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago 7
This song perfectly represents how I often feel. I have pissed off a lot of people and ruined a relationship with my skepticism... it's good to know that there are others who think alike...!
kelin77 11 months ago 3
Pst hey you there, check out the rest of the channel its just as good!
But yes, this song is my favorite of the four...
nicolaswirth 11 months ago
Could you please post the lyrics?
Gwilbor 11 months ago
@Gwilbor You can find them at my blog: theskepticintheroom.blogspot.com
EddieScott1957 11 months ago
Ed is a gifted lyricist. The style reminds me of The Kingston Trio. If folk music ever makes a comeback, Eddie is money.
clubchucker 11 months ago
Very cleverly written & performed. Thanks for sharing! XOX, T
terrinakamura 11 months ago
Superb. Very well done. A little way in I was thinking this is like Tim Minchin but it won't be as good, but, I dunno, I think you're up there with him with this one mate.
oldeubank 11 months ago 2
@oldeubank Thank you, that is high praise indeed! Now if I could only grow a head of hair like Tim's, I'd be truly happy.
EddieScott1957 11 months ago
Thanks much Eddie for the heads-up about putting the lyrics on your website. Makes it so much easier. Now, on to the guitar to work on the music part. This is going to be a lot of fun!
mikenlynn 11 months ago
This is great! I'm going to share it at "Show and Tell" with my Freethinkers group. (Yes, we really do have "Show and Tell." It's for us to display the fact that People Really Do Believe Some Crazy Shit.)
Aramink 11 months ago
Cute song. A couple things... The appeal to 'common sense' at the beginning is unwise IMHO. And I wonder how Eddie approached his friends Dave and Tina. Did he act like 'a jerk,' or with understanding and compassion about their having been scared about autism by Jenny McBimbo? The skepticism works better when the audience is not already around the bend (like Thomas), and when the skeptic employs some empathy along with scientific evidence.
Teeslaw 11 months ago
Great song! Congratulations! Skeptics unite!
animeman19999 11 months ago
Very funny, and just how I feel too, sometimes. It can be very lonely up here on my high horse ;-) Great, uplifting ending BTW! I'll definitely be sharing this. Looking forward to more of your work. Congratulations.
Kittymaehem1 11 months ago
Stand up sceptics, rationalists and atheists! You're not alone =)
seraphphyx 11 months ago 3
Great stuff! The meshing of funny with science and rationality make this simply a gem. I have downloaded it and will soon be sharing it with others. Next step is to get your lyrics down on paper, grab my guitar and work on getting this thing down. Will make for a very fun song around the campfire this summer. Many thanks Eddie. Look forward to much more from you in the very near future.
mikenlynn 11 months ago
@mikenlynn Thanks. And if you're really interested in the lyrics, they're posted on my blog at theskepticintheroom.blogspot.com.
EddieScott1957 11 months ago
If you haven't seen and/or heard Tim Minchin's "Storm," you should check it out. 9 minutes of comedic perfection that covers almost all of your points in a "beat" poem. Hilarious. (The video appears to have been removed from youtube, but an audio track with text is still up there.)
folboteur 11 months ago
@folboteur Seen it. Love it. I'm a big Tim Minchin fan. In fact, every time I considered 'softening' some of my lyrics, I would ask myself, "what would Tim do?' and I'd leave them the way they are!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago
Today I woke up with an overwhelming sense of gratitude to my middle school science teacher, who on the first day of 6th grade told us that "God did it" was not an acceptable answer in his class. For no particularly reason- I haven't thought about the guy in years. I think, if he's still alive, he'd like this video quite a bit.
NicolaMonk 11 months ago 2
I love this on so many levels. THANK YOU.
kaceekc 11 months ago
I almost couldn't stop an actual spit take! And I love the conclusion. Thanks!
tanaats 11 months ago
Hey, I want to thank everyone for their kind comments about my little song. I appreciate all of the complements.
EddieScott1957 11 months ago 2
Love the video, love the song, and agree with the position
1LivingCuriously 11 months ago
Love it! Love it! Love it!
envelope555 11 months ago
Hope you don't mind but I've downloaded this and I'll be playing it at the club I DJ/VJ at. Hopefully one day you do get famous :)
MortisCityHC 11 months ago
@MortisCityHC HAHA! Well, I'm not sure it has much of a dance beat, but feel free. Glad you liked it!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago
@EddieScott1957 Well I like to play stupid songs at the end of the night. Not that I think your song is stupid, quite the contrary it was very touching. But that is the only time I could probably get away with playing all eight minutes of it.
It's okay though as i do have a few atheist oriented dance tracks. For example, XTC's "Dear God" is always a good jam.
Keep up the good work, I look forward to other songs.
MortisCityHC 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Flying? Yep, science. Light bulb? Yep, science. Round world? Yep, science. Humans using fire? Wheel? Electricity? It's all science. Inventing is science. "Working stuff out" is science. Science isn't some textbook, it's noticing something worked well last time and trying it again. For better science, you write down what worked so you can try to make it better next time, and ask other people what they think. It's working out how to harness the natural world.
GreenGlassScarab 11 months ago 4
Awesome!!!
alopiasmag 11 months ago
Amen! XD Great song, important message. And it's not a downer at the end!
alfia 11 months ago
Great video.
spaaron22 11 months ago
@EddieScott1957 Thanks for replying to my comment. I'm dismayed my comment was removed for too many negative votes. I really didn't mean it to be nasty, I was making a half, no quarter, serious statement that some people who lack in unfounded beliefs can be less than creative. But I was completely serious about this being a good song, with some great accompanying pictures. I would personally remove the one of Jim Carrey though. That guy got off *that* crazy train.
sanstar922 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Doesn't work that way. You make a claim, you provide evidence for that claim. You don't get to wave it off or tell someone to prove you wrong. If that's your style of argument, then rational people can't debate you. You don't agree to abide by the same rules of logic and reason that they do.
TennysonXII 11 months ago
Awesome song!
I absolutely love it.
Gottschal87 11 months ago
this is the best filk ever!
ejtmurff 11 months ago
ABSOLUTELY PERFECT
Shadow1655 11 months ago
I can really sympathise with this song. I still remember that awkward moment when I was on lunch break with a bunch of co-workers and the subject of naturopathy came up, coupled with some tin-foil hat theories about Big Pharma deliberately poisoning people for profit. I made the mistake of voicing my opinion. It wasn't very popular.
Phlebas 11 months ago
@Phlebas The drift away from nature to the scientific ways is a disaster!!! Big Pharma is poisoning you. The scientific food system and medical system has been a total failure. How do I know? Well in the last 70 years cancer rates exploded from 1 in 30 and will be 1 in 2 by 2020. Obesity rates? 80% of the public is Obese!!!!
The scientific food production diseases the body, then is poisoned by big pharma with pills, and when there are side effects from them, they have another pill for that. Wake
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Oh and our life expectancy just jumped to the highest it has ever been in human history. Your argument is a big old bucket of fail.
macleod57 11 months ago
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This song sounds like a scientific person wrote and sung it. Hmmm maybe that's why outside of youtube you will never hear of this guy again.
Well it's good someone believed the world wasn't flat. It's good that someone didn't believe it was impossible to invent the light bulb.
It's good someone didn't believe it was impossible to fly.
because I'm sure a lot of people believed these someones were batsh%^T crazy when they said they were going to make these things happen. Who is this guy again?
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 And yet, every time, regarding the light bulb, the round earth, flight and so on and so forth, it was the scientists who did it. Funny, that.
jumpmonkey03 11 months ago
@jumpmonkey03 So my question to you is what are you? Do you think science created you from a one cell organism into a fully grown human being? Do you think science had ANYTHING to do with that? Answer is a resounding Hell no! There is an intelligence far greater than primitive science, that you and this guy talk and sing about. What makes you breath while your sleeping or awake? Because you don't control it. Science is very limiting and they are up against a wall as I write. This may be to deep.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Want me to list the fallacies you just employed in that diatribe?
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@TennysonXII Explain to me where humans came from rocket scientist?
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Humans are the result of billions of years of natural selection with an element of chance mutation, but I see where this is going. It's called the argument from ignorance. "You don't have an answer, I do; therefore my argument wins." I suppose you're also presenting a false dilemma in that you suggest the only two possibilities are the current model or god. The problem is that you need evidence to support an argument. And you never did answered my question.
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@TennysonXII Sorry, I should include genetic drift and sexual selection as playing a role in human evolution. And "current model" should be "current scientific model"
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@TennysonXII You have no idea if what your saying is remotely close to being true. Your guessing like everyone else. I do know there is a universal energy that flows through everything thing on this planet, which you can feel it, if your in touch with the natural world. Maybe your not, I don't know. I don't believe in any religion they are man made. The natural world shows us the path to everything that we have built or created, with the use of science, which has tried to copy or reproduce natu.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@TennysonXII If you want to break down what I said as fallacies, go ahead but I would first look at yourself to see if anything your saying is true, can be proven, or can hold a candle to the wind.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@TennysonXII It is really funny that you can sit here and explain where Human beings origins are, something that happened who knows when, but you and scientists have no idea how the human brain even really works, something that is happening right now!!! Or what is under most of the ocean!!! Lol!! Your logic is completely retarded and unprovable.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8
1. Straw Man - You say science didn't produce humans. Nobody would disagree with you. The effects of natural laws lead to human beings, not the scientific process.
2. Appeal to authority - you say Einstein believed in a god, and that musicians do too. This doesn't matter in the slightest. What matters is that there isn't any evidence to support your claim that god exists.
(cont.)
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@masterplan8 (cont.)
3. Argument from ignorance - you assert that because scientists haven't discovered what causes some things to happen in the quantum world, that consciousness does it. Remember that just because we don't know the answer doesn't mean that you get to make unfounded assertions
4. Red herring - the idea that quantum physics is affected by human consciousness has nothing to do with whether any gods exist.
(cont.)
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@masterplan8 (cont.)
There are a lot of arguments you use with whose formal names I'm not familiar. There's also a bunch of misinformation.
5. What causes you to breath while your asleep? Bits of your brainstem.
6. No scientist is saying that quantum physics changes how we view things on a macro level, nor are most facts suddenly doubted. Most things on the macro level aren't even directly affected by findings in quantum physics.
(cont.)
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@TennysonXII Look science comes from the study of the natural world, therefore science is a by product of the natural world. The natural world reigns supreme, as science tries to imitate it at every turn and continues to do so as we write. Trying to pull it a part, kill it, replicate it, and analyze it, etc.. Everything that has been invented has been because it was rip off of the natural world. Science is here because of the natural world not the other way around. End of story! Con't
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8
9. Ad Hominem - "Where did humans come from rocket scientist?"
10. Argument from ignorance - just because we don't fully comprehend how something works (the brain, for instance) doesn't mean that you get to wildly speculate without evidence.
Getting bored of deconstructing your arguments, maybe someone else will take up the job.
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@TennysonXII Universal energy exists, source energy exsits, I never said God, I said that's what a lot of people like to call it. We are vibration and everything we do comes from a vibration. Could you agree with this? Hearing, seeing , voice, energy, atoms vibrate, etc etc.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 (cont.)
7. Post hoc ergo propter hoc - you assert that the rise of pharmaceuticals has lead to an increase in cancer and obesity. It's possible that we see more cancer because we have better methods of detection. Obesity is likely caused by poor dietary and exercise habits.
8. Appeal to nature - you say that big pharma is bad because it isn't natural. Snake bites and hemlock are natural too, but I'd rather not be subjected to either.
(cont.)
TennysonXII 11 months ago
@TennysonXII I like how your wading into something you have no clue about, and you put in the word "Possible" You just don't know what you are talking about or are being an apologist for Big Pharma and it's poisonous ways. Obesity is caused by poor dietary habits? Really??? Not sh@#$t! Where has the poor diet come from? Preserved food products, chemical preservatives, pesticides, herbicides, etc...before the 1900's there wasn't any of that around. Cont.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Ok, awesome. You just made a claim: "There is an intelligence far greater than primitive science." Here's how it works from this point on: Ball's in your court. Prove it.
jumpmonkey03 11 months ago
@jumpmonkey03 Ask any great musician or scientist like an Einstein where there solutions or songs came from, and they will tell you they don't know or they would try and explain from the infinite source energy that we all are, universal energy/consciousness, most humans like to call it the singular GOD from there limited understanding. Read up on Einstein. Science is like your brain a tool your not taking it with you when you die. Science have found that under Quantum Physics that there
masterplan8 11 months ago
@jumpmonkey03 Under Quantum Physics scientists have found that there experiments are no longer valid, due to the changing nature of consciousness. They have found the experiment changes depending on who is watching it and therefore they cannot get a reliable measurement, because consciousness is like a river and changes on who ever is focusing n it. You can create your own reality, which you do everyday. Everything in your life is there because you believe it to be.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 What!? I don't get to be famous!?? Damn, and that's why I wrote the song (and surely you're not equating the light bulb and basic geography to nonsense like auras and homeopathy?)
Actually, the funniest part of your post was you referring to me as a "scientific person" - given the fact that chemistry is the only class I got a D in in high school, and I nearly flunked basic algebra in college, I'm pretty sure people can be skeptical of that claim!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago 2
@EddieScott1957 First off it is very stiff and cynical. And no you will not be famous, not until you put a little more heart and soul into your music will you even have a chance. My questio to you is what are you? You were a one cell organism that grew into a human being. Do you think Science had anything to do with that? See there is an intelligence far greater than your beloved primitive science. Who controls your breathing? Science can't even tell you that. Your skepticism just limits what
masterplan8 11 months ago
@EddieScott1957 What is possible for you and your life. I'm sure if I told you I was going to make a 600,000(747) pound chunk of metal/aluminum fly, you would have thought I was crazy, but it happened. That one guy dreamed it was possible and made it work. I bet a million skeptics said here couldn't do it. Yes you do have a energy and aura around at all times, we all do. We are far more magical that the mainstream world will have you believe. It's the people who think outside of the box which
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 I really really really do not want to prolong this silliness, but I do have to say that I grew up in Seattle, half my family works for Boeing, and I know a bit about 747s and other aircraft. And it's science - in all of its glory - that makes them fly. And if there were skeptics who doubted it could happen, they changed their minds when presented with evidence (provided, again, by science) and accepted the facts. That's how it works!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago 4
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@EddieScott1957 Explain to me where humans came from rocket scientist?
masterplan8 11 months ago
@EddieScott1957 Last question Aerospace boy...Where di they come up with the idea to fly in the first place? Could is be nature or something called a bird? Did science make that bird? Science is here because of nature no the other way around mate. So you can thank nature for you families jobs.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@masterplan8 Aerospace boy?? Really?? Well, I guess you showed me. But this really is my final word, as I actually have a job, which I no doubt owe not to my education, skills, experience and the fact that the people who employ me have created a business model which allows them to pay me, but rather to something in nature, like the wind, or a worm, or the tides or, well, something. Live long and prosper, oh thou great understander of nature's providence!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago 3
@EddieScott1957 Guess so...You really should be working instead of playing on the computer and wasting your slave masters time. It's no doubt that it is an industry that was made up, as is the money is only idea, that you believe in, therefore you think it is real. Thank you I will live very long, and I have already prospered under this illusionary system that we all made up, see I don't have a slave master, I am the slave master get to work before I report you.
masterplan8 11 months ago
@EddieScott1957 have created the things that the skeptical naysayers said couldn't be done. If you think like the masses you will get massive mediocrity, which is fine, just do think anything magical will happen. With great leaps in consciousness come great leaps in humanity, by the 100th monkey principle(look it up) Peace and put a little more feeling into your music and anything will be possible for you.. good luck!!!
masterplan8 11 months ago
That was some awesome shit
JoeTheOpinionated 11 months ago
uh. why cant there be ufos. theres lots of circumstantial evidence.
and uh. rly jenny mcarthy is the like' spokesperson' against vaccinations? i thought it was the scientists. weird.
bluntpunk83 11 months ago
@bluntpunk83 There is circumstantial evidence of UFOS. Unidentified being the key word. There are things in the sky that haven't been accounted for. The only scientist against vaccines is Wakefield and his experiment was too small in scope and was not sampled randomly as well as falsifying data.
kamijk 11 months ago
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I'm amazed someone as boring as a skeptic could come up with such a creative song.
sanstar922 11 months ago
That was some awesome shit.
JoeDixon 11 months ago
Pharyngula
Lagomort 11 months ago 2
Bravo, sir. Bravo.
DanThePropMan 11 months ago
Pharyngula! YEA!!!!!
wally53511 11 months ago 2
Here from Pharyngula. I liked the somewhat happy ending. Good job!
semctigue 11 months ago 2
Shout out for people from Pharyngula!
GeralCorasjo 11 months ago 50
So. When are we going to get to be able to download this?
jumpmonkey03 11 months ago
I've had the "homeopathy is crap" conversation so many times, but I've never thought about the fact that every cup of water has dissolved a HUGE amount of shit over the eons. Thank you for this.
mauk4678 11 months ago 44
@mauk4678 Thanks, but, giving credit where credit is due, I first heard that idea expressed in Tim Minchin's song "Storm." Another brilliant insight from Mr. Minchin!
EddieScott1957 11 months ago 7
@mauk4678 Google, "If water has a memory then homeopathy is full of shit" - under 'images'.
firesnakepodcast 11 months ago 4
i have had so many experiences like this, and I'm not being rude to the people i question, but i get accused of being so.
daiklaive 11 months ago
Ha, very clever, I love it.
Well done!
XavierNinnis 11 months ago
Love it!! Just great!
stormborn67 11 months ago
Great song
natoskypr 11 months ago
Wooo yay!!
very good. I enjoyed that.
daveharris2001 11 months ago
Just heard this on Rational Alchemy, and I'm gonna be posting this over on the SGU forums.
ravenhull 11 months ago
well done!!
Cyrius01 1 year ago
OH MY GOD! EVERYTHING SOUNDS LIKE MY EXPERIENCES.!
screenflicker1 1 year ago
My new theme song!
TheCodedAtheist 1 year ago
@TheCodedAtheist It can't be your theme song, it's my theme song!
Okay, we can share.
Korealignments 11 months ago