Freedom of speech can go too far...like islam extremists in the UK yelling british soldiers burn in hell during remembrance day ceremony. I would hope this video is not only aimed at non believers of islam...but of some believers of islam as well.
You made some very good points in this video bro. Also check out the video "Karen armstrong on Islam" by the youtube user "AllahsCreation". She's a religious historian and although she's not muslim herself she shows how the real message of Isalm is one of absolute tolerance and respect for others.
You are aware that hate speech IS free speech. A white supremist group has all the right to peacefully march in the streets and Fred Phelps has all the right to say that "god hates fags". What they don't have the right to do is kill anyone who disagrees with them, even when it's a simple parody on a cartoon which is exactly what Draw Muhammad Day is all about.
@alienisuntverus Thank you for your comment, So I can I now walk with a sign in the street saying "I hate Niggers" or draw a mocking cartoon of the holocaust ?
Could you? Yes. It would be a horrible thing to do and no doubt people would react negatively to it. Most people won't do such a thing because they're not dicks and they understand that just because you could say something like that doesn't exactly mean you should say something like that.
We all sin and which one of us is not that sinner as one of them said if the sins had a smell none of us would sit with one another , but Allah's conceals our mistakes out of his mercy Subahanah , Make someVideo's to the Arab audience they need A couple of reminders too , Spread the Khair as long as you can and collect the good deeds who knows you can lead someone to Jannah . Allah Yubarik feek wa yajzak 10000 Khair
Maybe , But maybe Allah puts nur in their face and Allah say's in the quran do you make the believer like the Mujrmeen malakom Kaifa Tahkomoon. I only noticed your
eygiption When you Said Alhamdulillah. Before that I never knew your race I just knew 100 percent your Muslim Subahana Allah
@1Diaaa Thank you for your kind words, But I'm not as u Imagine at all I sin and I do many mistakes, May Allah guide us all and make us die with a pure heart
I have the right to offend because your religous views do not apply to me. I am not required to respect your religon or anything to do with it. i reject your religous rules in the most offensive way because you demand that i follow them.
@mrfrednoname The media says that I demand you follow them, but the Wuran says every person is free to believe what he wants. Even under Shariah Law, Non muslims can have their own seperate law.
That's like saying we shouldn't believe Democracy is about freedom of a people to choose their own governments, because certain Democratic nations impose their ideas on others.
@mrfrednoname What did Napoleon, Churchil, bush do in the name of democracy and freedom ?
Didn't bush invade Iraq to impose "Democracy" ?
Capitalist countries invaded other countries to spread capitalism so they can be invaded, Communist countries invaded other countries to spread socialism so they can be invaded. And yes some Muslim leaders invaded other countries for their resources which is wrong but least they didn't enslave its people. The problem is with US Humans not the ideologies.
@mrfrednoname If this happened it was because of a tyrant, and wen there is a tyrant both muslims and non muslims suffer from him..he didn't do this torture and enslavement in the name of Islam. If you have proof that it was done in the name of Islam then I would be glad if you shared it with me.
@KevinSolway "Some Muslims think that apostates should be killed, or are somehow evil, which doesn't seem very understanding to me."
none of the muslims I know think that. The more conservative ones will probably dislike it if their own children and the like rejected Islam, but they aren't really bothered about any other apostates, especially not of other religions.
@KevinSolway I agree with many modern scholars who said that the death penalty was related to a certain time period, because many people turned Muslims to become spies so this punishment was made to scare them off. And I agree with them that there cannot be a death penalty for apostasy because this would contradict what the quran says.
You couldn't be more wrong. Offense has no bearing on Freedom of Speech. In fact the two go hand in hand. What I say may offend you, but what you say may offend me. Both sides must tolerate such offense by speech. You have the freedom of speech and you also have the freedom to be offended.
You can spout as much hatred as you want, so long as you keep your hands to yourself.
"Remember sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."
@NoMoreConspiracy Thank you for your reply, critisim doesn't offend as long as it's in a polite manner why do we always have to offend each other using names and curses ?
Why can't we discuss things in a normal way, if the other side offends this means he is not searching for truth he just wants bash or pawn me..Then why would we discuss with a person who offends me?
I agree with you completely. I'm all for civility, however civility IS NOT required for freedom of speech. Again, I am not advocating using names or anger or even hating, however I am very much supporting the freedom to do such.
It's often said that true freedom is not allowing the expression of something you already agree with, but allowing the expression of something YOU DON'T agree with.
The only limits to free speech are if a reasonable person would find immediate danger in those words. The common example is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, as a fire in enclosed places means the same TO EVERY reasonable person. Therefore panic would occur and potentially death.
Offending somebody IS NOT an immediate danger, especially to a reasonable person. Offense is subjective. And, as you know, many Muslims DID NOT protest or kill anyone after a Koran was burned.
I am too busy working on my new business project. I do not have time to watch every video people request. But that music is horrid. It sounds like a whining man in pain.
@NaomiChambers Very well I'll paraphrase that video. Because you're into vanity, the devil loves to scratch at you from within because it can't take the God's word.
@mado9111 Yeah, exactly..I posted a comment on one of her videos because after I saw her comment here she really pissed me off and I wanted to see her channel. So there it was.."the magnificent idea"!!! with the soap bars. It's like she is 16 with this ideas.She even blocked me.
It's like she is not a mother.She simply lacks the decency any woman and mostly, a mother! should have.
Btw I'm not a muslim but I do care about respect and peace between people. WE ARE NOT ANIMALS I PREFER TO THINK..
@mado9111 No, I'm sorry :-). I was just a bit angry because in the end she was the one restricting my freedom of speech by blocking me. So I hoped maybe she would read my message somewhere else. But it seems when you say the truth to someone he gets annoyed and can't stand it.
Anyway, forget about that. Keep up with your great videos! I'll be following them :-)
Freedom of speech can go too far...like islam extremists in the UK yelling british soldiers burn in hell during remembrance day ceremony. I would hope this video is not only aimed at non believers of islam...but of some believers of islam as well.
okokwegetit22 1 month ago
"The Thin Line Between Freedom of Speech and Hate Speech "
Idiot, its contradictory. Either there is Freedom of Speech or not!
Plautus123 7 months ago
You made some very good points in this video bro. Also check out the video "Karen armstrong on Islam" by the youtube user "AllahsCreation". She's a religious historian and although she's not muslim herself she shows how the real message of Isalm is one of absolute tolerance and respect for others.
fivecrownsful 8 months ago
@fivecrownsful Thank you :) I will check it out soon in shaa Allah.
mado9111 8 months ago
You are aware that hate speech IS free speech. A white supremist group has all the right to peacefully march in the streets and Fred Phelps has all the right to say that "god hates fags". What they don't have the right to do is kill anyone who disagrees with them, even when it's a simple parody on a cartoon which is exactly what Draw Muhammad Day is all about.
alienisuntverus 8 months ago
@alienisuntverus Thank you for your comment, So I can I now walk with a sign in the street saying "I hate Niggers" or draw a mocking cartoon of the holocaust ?
mado9111 8 months ago
@mado9111
Could you? Yes. It would be a horrible thing to do and no doubt people would react negatively to it. Most people won't do such a thing because they're not dicks and they understand that just because you could say something like that doesn't exactly mean you should say something like that.
alienisuntverus 8 months ago
I Didn't get the cartoon inbetween ^_^
It was Noisy around you :D try to have higher Quality Sound whatever ! :D
I loved the butterflies in the back ^_^
CReativityTalent 9 months ago
@CReativityTalent The cartoon is an old cartoon that makes fun of black people.
sorry about the sound, I forgot the window opened lol.
the butterflies are not mine they are my brother's he loves these things, my desk is just blanc.
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 Oh Now i get it ^_^
thanks
CReativityTalent 9 months ago
We all sin and which one of us is not that sinner as one of them said if the sins had a smell none of us would sit with one another , but Allah's conceals our mistakes out of his mercy Subahanah , Make someVideo's to the Arab audience they need A couple of reminders too , Spread the Khair as long as you can and collect the good deeds who knows you can lead someone to Jannah . Allah Yubarik feek wa yajzak 10000 Khair
1Diaaa 9 months ago
@1Diaaa Thank your for the advice :)
mado9111 9 months ago
Maybe , But maybe Allah puts nur in their face and Allah say's in the quran do you make the believer like the Mujrmeen malakom Kaifa Tahkomoon. I only noticed your
eygiption When you Said Alhamdulillah. Before that I never knew your race I just knew 100 percent your Muslim Subahana Allah
1Diaaa 9 months ago
@1Diaaa Thank you for your kind words, But I'm not as u Imagine at all I sin and I do many mistakes, May Allah guide us all and make us die with a pure heart
mado9111 9 months ago
subhana allah you know a muslim just by seeing there face on the many videos on youtube
1Diaaa 9 months ago
@1Diaaa But Muslims are not a race maybe just you said so cause I look Egyptian lol, but a Guy living in the Antarctica could be a Muslim.
mado9111 9 months ago
I have the right to offend because your religous views do not apply to me. I am not required to respect your religon or anything to do with it. i reject your religous rules in the most offensive way because you demand that i follow them.
mrfrednoname 9 months ago
@mrfrednoname The media says that I demand you follow them, but the Wuran says every person is free to believe what he wants. Even under Shariah Law, Non muslims can have their own seperate law.
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 i don't believe that about islamic law. Because if it were true, this would not be an issue.
mrfrednoname 9 months ago
@mrfrednoname
That's like saying we shouldn't believe Democracy is about freedom of a people to choose their own governments, because certain Democratic nations impose their ideas on others.
DawahFilms 9 months ago
@DawahFilms Not really since not every democracy has done that whereas every islamic state has force religous laws on non-believers.
mrfrednoname 9 months ago
@mrfrednoname What did Napoleon, Churchil, bush do in the name of democracy and freedom ?
Didn't bush invade Iraq to impose "Democracy" ?
Capitalist countries invaded other countries to spread capitalism so they can be invaded, Communist countries invaded other countries to spread socialism so they can be invaded. And yes some Muslim leaders invaded other countries for their resources which is wrong but least they didn't enslave its people. The problem is with US Humans not the ideologies.
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 Didn't enslave thier people?? Tell that to the armenians, kurds, kuwaiti's, hindus, christians of the sudan, etc etc etc
mrfrednoname 9 months ago
@mrfrednoname If this happened it was because of a tyrant, and wen there is a tyrant both muslims and non muslims suffer from him..he didn't do this torture and enslavement in the name of Islam. If you have proof that it was done in the name of Islam then I would be glad if you shared it with me.
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 See the list above.All done in the name of islam. Just as much as you list was done in the name of those idealogies.
mrfrednoname 9 months ago
What is your view on apostasy? Some Muslims think that apostates should be killed, or are somehow evil, which doesn't seem very understanding to me.
KevinSolway 9 months ago
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@KevinSolway "Some Muslims think that apostates should be killed, or are somehow evil, which doesn't seem very understanding to me."
none of the muslims I know think that. The more conservative ones will probably dislike it if their own children and the like rejected Islam, but they aren't really bothered about any other apostates, especially not of other religions.
jupta00 9 months ago
@KevinSolway I agree with many modern scholars who said that the death penalty was related to a certain time period, because many people turned Muslims to become spies so this punishment was made to scare them off. And I agree with them that there cannot be a death penalty for apostasy because this would contradict what the quran says.
mado9111 9 months ago
I like your way of thinking in this video. Keep up! I'll subscribe :-)
CinnamonFree 9 months ago
@CinnamonFree Thank you :)
mado9111 9 months ago
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☻/ This is definitely NOT Muhammad.
/▌ Don't even think that it is.
/ \ Hey, stop that..
foxlake02 9 months ago
You couldn't be more wrong. Offense has no bearing on Freedom of Speech. In fact the two go hand in hand. What I say may offend you, but what you say may offend me. Both sides must tolerate such offense by speech. You have the freedom of speech and you also have the freedom to be offended.
You can spout as much hatred as you want, so long as you keep your hands to yourself.
"Remember sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."
-Every Mom
NoMoreConspiracy 9 months ago
@NoMoreConspiracy Thank you for your reply, critisim doesn't offend as long as it's in a polite manner why do we always have to offend each other using names and curses ?
Why can't we discuss things in a normal way, if the other side offends this means he is not searching for truth he just wants bash or pawn me..Then why would we discuss with a person who offends me?
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111
I agree with you completely. I'm all for civility, however civility IS NOT required for freedom of speech. Again, I am not advocating using names or anger or even hating, however I am very much supporting the freedom to do such.
It's often said that true freedom is not allowing the expression of something you already agree with, but allowing the expression of something YOU DON'T agree with.
NoMoreConspiracy 9 months ago
@NoMoreConspiracy Dear NoMoreConspiracy :)
There is a difference between me not agreeing with what you say, and you offending me.
By offence I mean, mocking, curse words..etc
Can I ask you a question, are there limits to freedom of speech ?
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111
The only limits to free speech are if a reasonable person would find immediate danger in those words. The common example is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, as a fire in enclosed places means the same TO EVERY reasonable person. Therefore panic would occur and potentially death.
Offending somebody IS NOT an immediate danger, especially to a reasonable person. Offense is subjective. And, as you know, many Muslims DID NOT protest or kill anyone after a Koran was burned.
NoMoreConspiracy 9 months ago
Well said.
whistlingdust 9 months ago
Why did you have to start this video with that horribly, annoying music?
NaomiChambers 9 months ago
@NaomiChambers /watch?v=Kn5SEOvD1VQ
faro0485 9 months ago
@faro0485
Naw
I am too busy working on my new business project. I do not have time to watch every video people request. But that music is horrid. It sounds like a whining man in pain.
NaomiChambers 9 months ago
@NaomiChambers Very well I'll paraphrase that video. Because you're into vanity, the devil loves to scratch at you from within because it can't take the God's word.
faro0485 9 months ago
@NaomiChambers About what you wrote on my profile, If you cannot have self respect for yourself then do not comment on my channel.
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 Yeah, exactly..I posted a comment on one of her videos because after I saw her comment here she really pissed me off and I wanted to see her channel. So there it was.."the magnificent idea"!!! with the soap bars. It's like she is 16 with this ideas.She even blocked me.
It's like she is not a mother.She simply lacks the decency any woman and mostly, a mother! should have.
Btw I'm not a muslim but I do care about respect and peace between people. WE ARE NOT ANIMALS I PREFER TO THINK..
CinnamonFree 9 months ago
@CinnamonFree Thank you for understanding, but I don't like to talk about people behind their backs.
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 Yeah, you are right. I'm sorry for that :-)
CinnamonFree 9 months ago
@CinnamonFree Thank you, and don't say sorry..you didn't mean it :)
mado9111 9 months ago
@mado9111 No, I'm sorry :-). I was just a bit angry because in the end she was the one restricting my freedom of speech by blocking me. So I hoped maybe she would read my message somewhere else. But it seems when you say the truth to someone he gets annoyed and can't stand it.
Anyway, forget about that. Keep up with your great videos! I'll be following them :-)
CinnamonFree 9 months ago
@NaomiChambers How ignorant can you be to critcize what music he used? :-/
really....he was speaking about such a difficult topic and you comment about what music he used (5 seconds of the video)?
CinnamonFree 9 months ago
thank you brother and Allah may bless u
MyTrueTears 9 months ago
@MyTrueTears Thank you for your kind words
mado9111 9 months ago