Fowler writes of the 2nd advance up the hill - "The regiment (the 14th) reformed at the foot of the hill, at the Sudley Ford Rd. & advanced again to the summit. This time supported by a Battalion of Marines in it's rear On reaching the top of Hill, as the enemy volley came belching forth, the men without command, dropped to the ground, & the shots passed over them & took effect upon the Marines in their rear...who... broke & ran for the rear followed by the unsupported 14th"
"Lieutenant Averil, with the consent of the General, ordered another change of direction by an advance in line again, which carried the Regt. to a position near the woods on the right of the lost batteries. in going up, the regiment passed the Fire Zouaves and the Marines coming back in disorder" - Edward B. Fowler - 14th Brooklyn.
According to the Regimental history for the 14th Brooklyn and Colonel Edward B. Fowler's own account - the Marines were behind the 14th Brooklyn and when the 14th went down the volley went over them right into the Marines which broke them and they retreated...The Marines Piercing the lines is news to me.. if that were true I would assume there would be more accounts written about it..
I'd like to read the account(s) that tell of the Marines fighting unsupported. Though they fought at Bull Run their role was minor and they were not that heavily engaged compared to other regiments that were involved in the see-saw fight for Griffin's and Rickett's guns.
@rdblue09 They attacked unsupported and there was 350 of them and they lasted 15minutes by themselves but they did as Porter said "gave way in disorder" which is a polite way of saying they routed. But hell 15 minutes if they were firing 3 shots a minute was enough to discharge all 40 rounds they had.
They were actually the third behind Burnsides brigade (thats 3000 troops) and the supporting troops. after taking enfallading fire from the flank. and after they had made three attempts to retake the batteries.
at the battle of bull run the marines ran away from the battle and never fought another battle in the war
ussr19411945 6 months ago
Fowler writes of the 2nd advance up the hill - "The regiment (the 14th) reformed at the foot of the hill, at the Sudley Ford Rd. & advanced again to the summit. This time supported by a Battalion of Marines in it's rear On reaching the top of Hill, as the enemy volley came belching forth, the men without command, dropped to the ground, & the shots passed over them & took effect upon the Marines in their rear...who... broke & ran for the rear followed by the unsupported 14th"
MarkMaritatoArt 7 months ago
"Lieutenant Averil, with the consent of the General, ordered another change of direction by an advance in line again, which carried the Regt. to a position near the woods on the right of the lost batteries. in going up, the regiment passed the Fire Zouaves and the Marines coming back in disorder" - Edward B. Fowler - 14th Brooklyn.
MarkMaritatoArt 7 months ago
According to the Regimental history for the 14th Brooklyn and Colonel Edward B. Fowler's own account - the Marines were behind the 14th Brooklyn and when the 14th went down the volley went over them right into the Marines which broke them and they retreated...The Marines Piercing the lines is news to me.. if that were true I would assume there would be more accounts written about it..
MarkMaritatoArt 7 months ago
I'd like to read the account(s) that tell of the Marines fighting unsupported. Though they fought at Bull Run their role was minor and they were not that heavily engaged compared to other regiments that were involved in the see-saw fight for Griffin's and Rickett's guns.
garyjd1166 7 months ago
Not exactly historically accurate, but awesome nonetheless.
larsjake 7 months ago
@larsjake So what is inaccurate about this?
jdee672 7 months ago
@jdee672 what happened...uniforms...manual of arms.
larsjake 7 months ago
nice dedickashin nice to see them oner the marines of 1861.
chris7w7 7 months ago
@chris7w7 To bad the Marines were one of the first units to run away!
rdblue09 7 months ago
@rdblue09 They attacked unsupported and there was 350 of them and they lasted 15minutes by themselves but they did as Porter said "gave way in disorder" which is a polite way of saying they routed. But hell 15 minutes if they were firing 3 shots a minute was enough to discharge all 40 rounds they had.
DrKorn5 7 months ago
They were actually the third behind Burnsides brigade (thats 3000 troops) and the supporting troops. after taking enfallading fire from the flank. and after they had made three attempts to retake the batteries.
Krisusmc 7 months ago