The point is that if you come to the United States you should learn English because not everyone in this country is Bilingual. I have worked in a few different pawn shops over the years and have had the exact same problem Greg has. I personally know this man and he is far from racist believe me.
The point is that if you come to the United States you should learn English because not everyone in this country is Bilingual. I have worked in a few different pawn shops over the years and have had the exact same problem Greg has. I personally know this man and he is far from racist believe me.
@snerfjudd LOL I wipe my ass on your mothers tongue, why don't you go and fuck your father's nasal cavity instead of coming to screw with me for no reason? I do dislike Obama, and what of it? He is POS like you. If something happened to him I would cheer like a Palestinian on 9/11, dance like a hot brazilian chick in RIo on Carnivale. If you still trust Obama with all you should know about how business is conducted in his administration then you truly are the bigger asshole between the 2 of us
@snerfjudd Been there and you are just an asshole because that is not who works in the kitchen but many small business and large corporate owners do exactly as you say......and that is the reason we have this problem.
watch us americans go to another country and not get served...lol we'd starve if we didnt know how to make food. we all know how to make food right? or at least ok with eating ramen noodles on our vacations?
if i were going to move my family to spain for the rest of our lives, i would learn spanish. Same if i moved to italy, id learn italian. It only makes sense to learn the local language, its makes it easier on u, ur family, and everyone else
Maybe the owner should be forced to take pictures of each of the items on the menu so that all people of all languages can just point to what they want. No deviation from basic menu. Maybe the government would like to pay for those meals as well!
I love going to the Department of Motor Vehicles. There are tests that are in 16 languages, but there should only be one: The same language that is on the signs, ENGLISH only. Mabye we should have the signs in 16 languages too. That will create jobs!
@F4ngVids i went to a restaurant in cancun mexico and had to order in spanish. I didnt fuss or spout off, i just learned a few simple phrases to place my order.
@dhockey63 yes however the person taking your order would have had to put in extra work to understand you. I think the sign asks that you should be able to speak English not just learn of a few words from a phrase book.
And the idea of a "melting pot society" is a myth. Refusal to incorporate aspects of other cultures to mix with this culture is simply an example of xenophobia. If you agree with this guy, you are racist. stop denying and just admit it.
I don't see how requiring others to be able to speak in a common language in order for trade to commence is that hard. Assuming the menu was in english, the customers needed to read what the menu said. Even if they can't pronounce it perfectly in the local accent, they could get it close. English and spanish use the same letters(ish) with same sounds(ish). Ish works well in a diner. How else do cajuns and texans trade with each other?
There are many American Citizens who are bilingual spanish/english. Wait until some of these individuals go into this restaurant and choose to speak spanish. Once they are refused service based on this idiot, their civil rights will be violated. Spanish was spoken on this land long before white people invaded and forced people to speak english. A simple solution would be for this man to hire a bilingual employee. But when you are backwards thinking like most closet racists, they r too dumb
@takethetimetoday Are you aware that the owner of a business can refuse anyone service, for any reason. Just like you can deny anyone entrance into your house. I think you misunderstand how property rights work. Also, no one has a civil right to eat in a restaurant.
@ariuszarim actually you are wrong. putting up a sign stating to refuse service in a business open to the public, that is illegal. Private businesses, such as country clubs and golf courses, CAN utilize statetments of right to determine whom they will offer business to. check the law before you comment and demonstrate your ignorance, please.
@takethetimetoday A business can refuse service as long as it isn't "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."(Civil rights act). Not speaking a language, being ugly, the owner just disliking you, none are illegal grounds for refusal of service. I read the Act too. It's his restaurant and, as long as he doesn't use force, he can refuse service to whoever he chooses.
@ariuszarim In 19th century physical anthropology, also known as scientific racism, the term race had the meaning of "a group of tribes or peoples, an ethnic group." The scientific distinctions of race were linguistically-based. The distinctions were not biological. The division of the races is based in linguistic origin, not physical genetics. Law usually relies on the denotation of words, not connotation. Any good lawyer can prove what takethetimetoday has said. It can not serve by membership.
@Jcuel2 In 21st century America, "race" refers to the physical characteristics of an individual. What you should argue for is discrimination on the basis of national origin. Language is not racial, it's cultural. Further, Title II of the Civil Rights Act simply limits the reasons for unequal access to a public business. Can the owner throw out non-English speaking people? If he has a business necessity reason, you bet he can. Use a law book, not wikipedia, to reason this out.
@ariuszarim In order to understand Modern English, you need to look at the etymology of a word and its historical uses. The word race has always historically had meaning more to do with language than physical characteristics, even in the 21st century. You advocate English as an official language then want to change word meanings to some vague "American English." Race: derived from Arabic ra's "head, beginning, origin" (cf. Heb. rosh). O.E. þeode meant both "race" and "language;"
Respond to this video... Race is a distinction of linguistics if we're talking about OFFICIAL ENGLISH here. Look closely again at what you quote: "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin." Again, our written law is known for using exact denotation of words, not connotation.
@Jcuel2 Language has nothing to do with race. Race is about the color of a person's skin or their physical characteristics. Check it, suppose there's a Hispanic person who only speaks Mandarin, he could be adopted. If he puts "Hispanic" on a job application, and then is denied the job, is it because he was Chinese? Language is cultural, race is physical. One is learned, the other is a product of biology.
@ariuszarim Look, do you know what a Semite is? Do you know that Semitic and Hamitic peoples share the same exact lineage? Do you know what separates Hamitic people from Semitic people? Language. We are all the same species. There are no sub-species of Homo sapiens. Homo sapiens are all one race, the only living species in the Homo genus of bipedal primates in Hominidae, -the human race. The great distinctions in the family of man have been marked primarily by language.
@Jcuel2 WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about legal distinctions in the USA, you're talking about sub-species? I know people are people. My only point, the only thing I want anyone to understand, is that language is learned, and as such, not racial. I can stop speaking English, I can't become black.
@ariuszarim We were specifically referring to the language of the bill. You quoted it. I explained how discriminating against someone because they do not speak English could be construed as a violation of the bill according to its own language and usage of the word race. Race difference can legally be construed as meaning a language difference. This can easily be argued by any competent lawyer citing the language of the bill itself. The word race in context here can easily double for language.
@ariuszarim A physical distinction in human races would be the difference between a Homo Sapien and Homo neanderthalensis. Neandertals were a sub-species of humans or a "separate human race." Everyone on Earth today is the same exact biological species or race. The separate families of man have been categorized primarily by language and region of origin. Race has every bit to do with language. You really are not correct on this.
@Jcuel2 A physical distinction would be darker skin, bigger bones, taller people, or blue eyes. It's not some big, scientific thing, it's a matter of perception. The Civil Rights Act isn't there for Neanderthals, they're all dead, they don't need civil rights. It's there so no one can put up signs that say "Whites only". Discrimination is about irrational hatred, keyword "irrational". The restaurant guy just couldn't accommodate anyone who didn't speak English.
@ariuszarim Yes, It exists so no one can put up a sign that reads whites only, English only, Spanish only, Asians only or a host of other [______] only signs. ANY "[ ___ ] only" sign would constitute a prerequisite for service. A public service can not cater by membership. A language requirement is most certainly a CLEAR violation of this bill. You are aware of the fact that the USA does not have a declared official language, right?
@Jcuel2 I don't know if you have access to this or not, but check out Garcia v. Spun Steak Co. 998 F.2d 1480 (9th Cir. 1993). In the case, Spun Steak was sued by two employees who only spoke Spanish, after it instituted an English-only policy. The judge found that Spun Steak had not violated the Civil Rights Act and dismissed the employees claim. It is a slightly different scenario, but I think it illustrates the point.
@takethetimetoday Should he hire one person that speaks EVERY language in the world? Why stop at a Spanish speaking employee? Try not to be so stupid. If he cannot communicate he cannot take your order. Also, he can refuse to try to communicate in any language other than English. What is the lawsuit for? "He can't understand my order so I'm being discriminated?" What a joke.
@JohnQPerson I'm pretty sure the issue at hand in this instance are customers who speak Spanish. The need to take it to the extreme like you did to include all languages is nothing but a cognitive distortion where a person sees a scenario in an either/or frame of reference. Much like people who are racist. And advocate discrimination against others. Oh, and by the way, Spanish is spoken by more individuals in America other than English, so yes, hiring someone who speaks Spanish works.
boy are you confused. go back to school and get a real education rather than kicking around the same old shoe that people use to perpetuate their discriminatory views. By the way, you forgot gender and disability in your list. Does this mean that you are a masogynist, too?
@takethetimetoday "Go back to school" says the who wrote that mess. I think you intended to reply to ariuszarim with that rage. You did not disprove him though, just slung insults around. It's ok you're pissed he is right about the Civil Rights Act and this issue not being included in it. Not everyone is right all the time. Anyway, it comes down to he cannot serve those he cannot understand and if he hired a Spanish speaking person he would be discriminating against the other languages. Right?
@JohnQPerson I lived in Japan for 6 years. I'm an American. I learned enough of the language to order in restaurants. Lots of smiling and pointing are very helpful. You've gotta be pretty stupid to be unable to point at a menu, the dish someone else is eating, or a picture on the wall. Also, the guy said the customers were being verbally abusive, that's not cool in any language.
@takethetimetoday So let me understand this. You believe that someone should force this private business owner to hire a bilingual employee. Assuming there is a bilingual person in the area looking for a job as a waiter, will he have to be on call 24 hours? Or did you mean he has to hire an entire bilingual staff to cover all shifts? I must be too dumb to understand. Also, how long did Native Americans speak Spanish before Christopher Columbus (white person who sailed for the Spanish) arrived?
@TheUNRIVALED1 : This has NOTHING to do with race, but it's not surprising that those gaping race-wounds like you would jump on this and pull the race card. This is about simple communication skills. It's tough to run a business when your customers can't communicate. It's even tougher when these non-English speaking "customers" get belligerent because you don't speak THEIR language. Right or wrong, this man is a private business owner and has the right to serve whomever he chooses.
@AceHoale You're criticizing "American English" as if it is some corrupted subset of "The King's English" embraced by those of lesser intellect. This is interesting, as your post is replete with grammatical and spelling errors. Stay classy, aptly-named AceHoale.
@ResponsibleGunOwner "The Queen's English" is the phrase which you were looking for and proves YOUR assertion of YOUR intellect, why slander all the others?
The King's English is a book on English usage and grammar. It was written by the Fowler brothers, Henry Watson Fowler and Francis George Fowler.
MY speling ( oh look, another one->,duh!) misteaks (oops!) are their(get the point yet?) by diseign.
Classy enough?
Oh! And don't do the RESPONSIBLE thing (wink, wink!)
that diner can do what he or she wants, period. Enough with this pc shit. I personally would be offended and would not eat there but whatever, big deal. It is the owners right, period , there is no argument to the contrary
If I moved to China, I'd learn Chinese, If I moved to Saudi Arabia I'd learn Arabic; and if I moved to the US, I'd definetely speak English. This is PERFECTLY REASONABLE.
@Wenutz of course he gets additional business, but the story broke for a reason; the reason being that he was getting more business - now go fuck your sister
@Wenutz I will not let you do that, and you should be ashamed of your own vulgarity, vulgarity is the desperate last resort of whoremongering losers living off their mothers. go fuck your dad in the nose
This is all part of an incremental approach to dissolving the USA and creating a North American Union. Look in your Home Depot, Lowes. Call any company and press 1 for English. Your public schools MUST teach children who do not speak English. Whose melting pot are we being melted in to anyway? Any you all just let it happen without a whimper.
of course government only harms business! HARMS BUSINESS WITH BULLSHIT REGULATIONS, FOOD POLICE, GREEN PEACE QUEERS AND HIGH TAXES! LIBERAL LOVE THAT!
@AlberikAlf Do you live in Texas pardner? In certain parts of Texas you would be correct but that's because THOSE places have been overrun with non English speaking persons, the majority of which, if laws were enforced they wold be cleaned out.
FYI - don't go making opinion only statements and try to pass them off as fact. It renders your entire post as bullshit.
@AlberikAlf You're right, I'm angry. Not a week goes by that a news story doesn't surface that an "non English" speaking illegal alien commits a crime in one form or another. Two weeks ago a good friend was yet ANOTHER statistic of an illegal driving without insurance or a license and totaled her car. Naturally he tried to escape on foot but was run down. The son-of-a-bitch owns nothing so she has to replace the car herself. Damn right I'm angry.
My daughter goes to school down that way...I will have to fine this place, shake that man's hand and support his efforts by ordering some home cooking.
Just say no to Liberal Elitists trying to steal this country with illegal votes and turn it into a socialist cesspool. Not that we are almost there already.
Stop the bankruptcy of America! God Save the Republic - OTP!
@CheckDare I understood the wanker's point. It was a lame way to say his staff only speaks English. "No speak English." Speaking of twat.... But "American" English? Guhhh.... And then to say "ethnicticity"... Always fun when people get all snotty about English and then right away come out with some bonehead language error. LOL!
Ok i see the language barrier. All can be solved with one picture menu that can be handed to them and giving the specail, hehe, need some will have to walk them through it. All at a nominal charge for the help, of course. But a picture menu will solve this issue period thank oyu for playing proble solved!!
Leave to a functionally sub-literate liberal to conflate speaking english with ethnic origins which is also another example of a liberal projecting their own raging prejudice. Libs will NOT be able to comprehend this analogy, not being able to be conversant in English here, is like trying to conduct commerce , where everybody is trying to use their own currency , it doesn't work.
How many of ya'll know that the FCC is FORCING cable/satelite providers to replace English speaking channels with Spanish speaking channels to accommodate those(ILLEGAL ALIENS & their anchor babies) that speak Spanish only. I learned this yesterday after calling Time Warner to complain about one of my favorite channels being replaced with a god damn Spanish channel! I was told to expect more channels to be changed in the near future thanks to the FCC. Our
@TerrierToughGuy Yes, I know. First we need to make English the official language of the US (which I don't know why it isn't already). And we need to have all immigrants who are in the process of becoming citizens to learn English.
There are places in California, Texas and Florida that you cannot get served if you dont speak Spanish because that is the predominant language there.
@agent4051 te felicito agente!!!! imagino q sólo sabes decir "mexicano".... right?? I´m not that lazy that I supossed to be ´cause I´m a damn latin... Je parlez francaise, et vouz? Io parlo italiano, e tu?... The capital city of Florida is Tallahassee not Hialeah!... take care officer!
@carlindelco Illiterate? There is no such thing as "American" English and its Ethnicity not Ethniticity. Hes the illiterate one. Otherwise i agree that he has the right to refuse people who dont speak english and that immigrants should learn the predominant language of the country the move to.
@darrenritt27 Yes there is such a thing as American English. American English differs from British English or from those of the "English ethnicity". For example in America we have " Color ". In the U.K it would be spelled as " Colour ". There is also the obvious differences in accent.
@Aeros802 Yes there are obvious differences such as accent and dialect as well as some spelling differences but otherwise English is English. I doubt that this guy would refuse someone with a British accent because they didnt speak "American English". Whats really messed up is how some people in this country with accents are harder to understand than foreigners.
@WilliamHBonney55 Yes i get that but my point i can still understand you. I doubt this guy would refuse a english speaking canadian. I agree America should have two official languages. Right now we dont even really have one.
Still you would think people who come here from other countries would learn english.
It has always pissed us off in Canada when we get people that are new to Canada that seem to not try to learn English.I remember working in a factory and trying to train immigrants how to do their job and they didn't know any English.What a pain in the ass.Many of us feel that they should have to learn English before they come here.I also doubt if this guy would refuse an English speaking Canadian or British or Australian etc.
@WilliamHBonney55 I Agree totally. I dont understand why you want to try to learn the predominant language of the country you move to. It makes things much easier for yourself and everyone else.
I think sometimes it is stubbornness.As a Canadian I should know the metric system well.
Yet I do not.Part of the reason is that I have always had to convert back and forth.The other part is that I have chosen to hate the metric system even though people say it is much easier.The only metric I have every learned is the stuff I have had to learn like kilometer per hour.I still use feet,inches,pounds.I am not the only Canadian like that.The younger generation only knows metric.
@darrenritt27 LMAO oh ok..funny u better go tell all the teachers in our country that what they are teaching is in fact unteachable since it doesn't exist.. we;; I'm glad u see it that way.. it makes for a much better unified and working society
@carlindelco They are teaching ENGLISH. The differences are mainly trivial from other English speaking countries. My point is this guy wouldnt refuse someone from England, Iredland, Australia etc who speaks english becuase it isnt "American English". This guy cant even pronounce Ethnicity correctly.
@darrenritt27 Well let me explain.. Mexico is part of the ..........America's , did you know that we live in NORTH America and that there is a SOUTH America.. but strangely enough they don't speak English.. fancy that... so the sign was to exemplify American - English.. A trivial complaint.. But I guess you deserve some credit for trying to find something to complain about right.. u guys are so persnickety ..What kind of world would it be with whiners like u in charge?
@carlindelco First of all America doesnt have an official language. Secondly there are plenty of dumb hicks in this country who are harder to understand than foreigners. You know, the ignorant hillbillys who lecture foreigners on the finer points of english when they cant spell and make up their own words. Ive met plenty of foreigners who speak english as a second language who are easy to understand accent and all. Ive also met plenty of hicks who only speak English that i cant understand.
@darrenritt27 No duh!! for centuries it had been understood and millions of immigrants had RESPECT and the need in order to succeed, taught themselves the language. BUT now we have a devolved culture that requires us to demand that you speak English. And of course do you have a POINT? Speak English.. use American currency , do shit in public place, wipe your ass, take a bath.. is this where we are headed???
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First he claims he doesn't understand Spanish but then he claims he understands Spanish. The owner is a Bigot!
rickyguerra4 8 months ago
The point is that if you come to the United States you should learn English because not everyone in this country is Bilingual. I have worked in a few different pawn shops over the years and have had the exact same problem Greg has. I personally know this man and he is far from racist believe me.
PazeelPhos 8 months ago
The point is that if you come to the United States you should learn English because not everyone in this country is Bilingual. I have worked in a few different pawn shops over the years and have had the exact same problem Greg has. I personally know this man and he is far from racist believe me.
PazeelPhos 8 months ago
Gavachos should learn Spanish!
mednos 9 months ago
@snerfjudd LOL I wipe my ass on your mothers tongue, why don't you go and fuck your father's nasal cavity instead of coming to screw with me for no reason? I do dislike Obama, and what of it? He is POS like you. If something happened to him I would cheer like a Palestinian on 9/11, dance like a hot brazilian chick in RIo on Carnivale. If you still trust Obama with all you should know about how business is conducted in his administration then you truly are the bigger asshole between the 2 of us
TerrierToughGuy 9 months ago
@snerfjudd Been there and you are just an asshole because that is not who works in the kitchen but many small business and large corporate owners do exactly as you say......and that is the reason we have this problem.
TerrierToughGuy 9 months ago
what language is spoken in Redneckland?
yosigeus1505 9 months ago
This is the most ignorant thing I have ever seen. I'm disappointed in you america
SamWise050 9 months ago
Don't worry, German folk! it has nothing to do with eth•ic•ti•ci•ty!
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watch us americans go to another country and not get served...lol we'd starve if we didnt know how to make food. we all know how to make food right? or at least ok with eating ramen noodles on our vacations?
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rockdiamond 9 months ago
His business would increase even more if he made an attempt to learn Spanish. He's being an asshole. Food probably sucks!
spareaxe 9 months ago
yeah! even more when US citizens are so moron to learn another language!
antrocanal 9 months ago
if i were going to move my family to spain for the rest of our lives, i would learn spanish. Same if i moved to italy, id learn italian. It only makes sense to learn the local language, its makes it easier on u, ur family, and everyone else
dhockey63 9 months ago
Maybe the owner should be forced to take pictures of each of the items on the menu so that all people of all languages can just point to what they want. No deviation from basic menu. Maybe the government would like to pay for those meals as well!
I love going to the Department of Motor Vehicles. There are tests that are in 16 languages, but there should only be one: The same language that is on the signs, ENGLISH only. Mabye we should have the signs in 16 languages too. That will create jobs!
ladylordess 9 months ago
I hope none of you be hypocrites and try odder something from a for foreign shop/ restaurant when on holiday.
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@F4ngVids i went to a restaurant in cancun mexico and had to order in spanish. I didnt fuss or spout off, i just learned a few simple phrases to place my order.
dhockey63 9 months ago
@dhockey63 yes however the person taking your order would have had to put in extra work to understand you. I think the sign asks that you should be able to speak English not just learn of a few words from a phrase book.
F4ngVids 9 months ago
Why can't customers just point to what they want on the menu? Will he refuse service to customers who cannot speak?
Diatonic5th 9 months ago
@TheUNRIVALED1 You know that segregation was state-mandated, right? There's a bit of a difference between this and that.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
And the idea of a "melting pot society" is a myth. Refusal to incorporate aspects of other cultures to mix with this culture is simply an example of xenophobia. If you agree with this guy, you are racist. stop denying and just admit it.
takethetimetoday 9 months ago
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I don't see how requiring others to be able to speak in a common language in order for trade to commence is that hard. Assuming the menu was in english, the customers needed to read what the menu said. Even if they can't pronounce it perfectly in the local accent, they could get it close. English and spanish use the same letters(ish) with same sounds(ish). Ish works well in a diner. How else do cajuns and texans trade with each other?
lambdaofbacon 9 months ago
There are many American Citizens who are bilingual spanish/english. Wait until some of these individuals go into this restaurant and choose to speak spanish. Once they are refused service based on this idiot, their civil rights will be violated. Spanish was spoken on this land long before white people invaded and forced people to speak english. A simple solution would be for this man to hire a bilingual employee. But when you are backwards thinking like most closet racists, they r too dumb
takethetimetoday 9 months ago
@takethetimetoday Are you aware that the owner of a business can refuse anyone service, for any reason. Just like you can deny anyone entrance into your house. I think you misunderstand how property rights work. Also, no one has a civil right to eat in a restaurant.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@ariuszarim actually you are wrong. putting up a sign stating to refuse service in a business open to the public, that is illegal. Private businesses, such as country clubs and golf courses, CAN utilize statetments of right to determine whom they will offer business to. check the law before you comment and demonstrate your ignorance, please.
takethetimetoday 9 months ago
@takethetimetoday A business can refuse service as long as it isn't "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."(Civil rights act). Not speaking a language, being ugly, the owner just disliking you, none are illegal grounds for refusal of service. I read the Act too. It's his restaurant and, as long as he doesn't use force, he can refuse service to whoever he chooses.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@ariuszarim In 19th century physical anthropology, also known as scientific racism, the term race had the meaning of "a group of tribes or peoples, an ethnic group." The scientific distinctions of race were linguistically-based. The distinctions were not biological. The division of the races is based in linguistic origin, not physical genetics. Law usually relies on the denotation of words, not connotation. Any good lawyer can prove what takethetimetoday has said. It can not serve by membership.
Jcuel2 9 months ago
@Jcuel2 In 21st century America, "race" refers to the physical characteristics of an individual. What you should argue for is discrimination on the basis of national origin. Language is not racial, it's cultural. Further, Title II of the Civil Rights Act simply limits the reasons for unequal access to a public business. Can the owner throw out non-English speaking people? If he has a business necessity reason, you bet he can. Use a law book, not wikipedia, to reason this out.
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@ariuszarim In order to understand Modern English, you need to look at the etymology of a word and its historical uses. The word race has always historically had meaning more to do with language than physical characteristics, even in the 21st century. You advocate English as an official language then want to change word meanings to some vague "American English." Race: derived from Arabic ra's "head, beginning, origin" (cf. Heb. rosh). O.E. þeode meant both "race" and "language;"
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Respond to this video... Race is a distinction of linguistics if we're talking about OFFICIAL ENGLISH here. Look closely again at what you quote: "discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin." Again, our written law is known for using exact denotation of words, not connotation.
Jcuel2 9 months ago
@Jcuel2 Language has nothing to do with race. Race is about the color of a person's skin or their physical characteristics. Check it, suppose there's a Hispanic person who only speaks Mandarin, he could be adopted. If he puts "Hispanic" on a job application, and then is denied the job, is it because he was Chinese? Language is cultural, race is physical. One is learned, the other is a product of biology.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@ariuszarim Look, do you know what a Semite is? Do you know that Semitic and Hamitic peoples share the same exact lineage? Do you know what separates Hamitic people from Semitic people? Language. We are all the same species. There are no sub-species of Homo sapiens. Homo sapiens are all one race, the only living species in the Homo genus of bipedal primates in Hominidae, -the human race. The great distinctions in the family of man have been marked primarily by language.
Jcuel2 9 months ago
@Jcuel2 WTF are you talking about? I'm talking about legal distinctions in the USA, you're talking about sub-species? I know people are people. My only point, the only thing I want anyone to understand, is that language is learned, and as such, not racial. I can stop speaking English, I can't become black.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@ariuszarim We were specifically referring to the language of the bill. You quoted it. I explained how discriminating against someone because they do not speak English could be construed as a violation of the bill according to its own language and usage of the word race. Race difference can legally be construed as meaning a language difference. This can easily be argued by any competent lawyer citing the language of the bill itself. The word race in context here can easily double for language.
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@ariuszarim A physical distinction in human races would be the difference between a Homo Sapien and Homo neanderthalensis. Neandertals were a sub-species of humans or a "separate human race." Everyone on Earth today is the same exact biological species or race. The separate families of man have been categorized primarily by language and region of origin. Race has every bit to do with language. You really are not correct on this.
Jcuel2 9 months ago
@Jcuel2 A physical distinction would be darker skin, bigger bones, taller people, or blue eyes. It's not some big, scientific thing, it's a matter of perception. The Civil Rights Act isn't there for Neanderthals, they're all dead, they don't need civil rights. It's there so no one can put up signs that say "Whites only". Discrimination is about irrational hatred, keyword "irrational". The restaurant guy just couldn't accommodate anyone who didn't speak English.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@ariuszarim Yes, It exists so no one can put up a sign that reads whites only, English only, Spanish only, Asians only or a host of other [______] only signs. ANY "[ ___ ] only" sign would constitute a prerequisite for service. A public service can not cater by membership. A language requirement is most certainly a CLEAR violation of this bill. You are aware of the fact that the USA does not have a declared official language, right?
Jcuel2 9 months ago
@Jcuel2 I don't know if you have access to this or not, but check out Garcia v. Spun Steak Co. 998 F.2d 1480 (9th Cir. 1993). In the case, Spun Steak was sued by two employees who only spoke Spanish, after it instituted an English-only policy. The judge found that Spun Steak had not violated the Civil Rights Act and dismissed the employees claim. It is a slightly different scenario, but I think it illustrates the point.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@takethetimetoday I agree totally. The language of the bill is pretty clear.
Jcuel2 9 months ago
@takethetimetoday Should he hire one person that speaks EVERY language in the world? Why stop at a Spanish speaking employee? Try not to be so stupid. If he cannot communicate he cannot take your order. Also, he can refuse to try to communicate in any language other than English. What is the lawsuit for? "He can't understand my order so I'm being discriminated?" What a joke.
JohnQPerson 9 months ago
@JohnQPerson I'm pretty sure the issue at hand in this instance are customers who speak Spanish. The need to take it to the extreme like you did to include all languages is nothing but a cognitive distortion where a person sees a scenario in an either/or frame of reference. Much like people who are racist. And advocate discrimination against others. Oh, and by the way, Spanish is spoken by more individuals in America other than English, so yes, hiring someone who speaks Spanish works.
takethetimetoday 9 months ago
boy are you confused. go back to school and get a real education rather than kicking around the same old shoe that people use to perpetuate their discriminatory views. By the way, you forgot gender and disability in your list. Does this mean that you are a masogynist, too?
takethetimetoday 9 months ago
@takethetimetoday "Go back to school" says the who wrote that mess. I think you intended to reply to ariuszarim with that rage. You did not disprove him though, just slung insults around. It's ok you're pissed he is right about the Civil Rights Act and this issue not being included in it. Not everyone is right all the time. Anyway, it comes down to he cannot serve those he cannot understand and if he hired a Spanish speaking person he would be discriminating against the other languages. Right?
JohnQPerson 9 months ago
@JohnQPerson I lived in Japan for 6 years. I'm an American. I learned enough of the language to order in restaurants. Lots of smiling and pointing are very helpful. You've gotta be pretty stupid to be unable to point at a menu, the dish someone else is eating, or a picture on the wall. Also, the guy said the customers were being verbally abusive, that's not cool in any language.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
@takethetimetoday So let me understand this. You believe that someone should force this private business owner to hire a bilingual employee. Assuming there is a bilingual person in the area looking for a job as a waiter, will he have to be on call 24 hours? Or did you mean he has to hire an entire bilingual staff to cover all shifts? I must be too dumb to understand. Also, how long did Native Americans speak Spanish before Christopher Columbus (white person who sailed for the Spanish) arrived?
scottshell11 9 months ago
@TheUNRIVALED1 : This has NOTHING to do with race, but it's not surprising that those gaping race-wounds like you would jump on this and pull the race card. This is about simple communication skills. It's tough to run a business when your customers can't communicate. It's even tougher when these non-English speaking "customers" get belligerent because you don't speak THEIR language. Right or wrong, this man is a private business owner and has the right to serve whomever he chooses.
ResponsibleGunOwner 9 months ago
This serves as a good incentive to learn English. To not do so just holds back the individual that want's to build success in their life.
computerpurple 9 months ago
At 1:34, did he just say "ethic-ticity"? Sounded like it to me! Maybe he should learn how to speak English too!
siremoface 9 months ago
American English: Like English, more mumbling, less and shorter words.
Move your mouth like you dry chew a really big wad of chewing.... sorry, bubble gum and you're nearly ready to go.
Ahs are Eys, a lorry is a truck.
What's douchebaggy fat slug in American English I wonder?
At least the racists put their money where their mouth is, literally.
Tripled his business?
By ANNOUNCING his bigotry and xenophobia?
Souper! like they say in Blighty.
Peas.
AceHoale 9 months ago
@AceHoale You're criticizing "American English" as if it is some corrupted subset of "The King's English" embraced by those of lesser intellect. This is interesting, as your post is replete with grammatical and spelling errors. Stay classy, aptly-named AceHoale.
ResponsibleGunOwner 9 months ago
@ResponsibleGunOwner "The Queen's English" is the phrase which you were looking for and proves YOUR assertion of YOUR intellect, why slander all the others?
The King's English is a book on English usage and grammar. It was written by the Fowler brothers, Henry Watson Fowler and Francis George Fowler.
MY speling ( oh look, another one->,duh!) misteaks (oops!) are their(get the point yet?) by diseign.
Classy enough?
Oh! And don't do the RESPONSIBLE thing (wink, wink!)
Or better Wank, Wank!
Peas.
AceHoale 9 months ago
@AceHoale Gee, that was profound...now, attempt to tie your shoes again!
SpinCage 9 months ago
@SpinCage I feel like Charlie Sheen with a lower sex drive, duh!
Apology accepted.
Peas.
AceHoale 9 months ago
@AceHoale That would make you a look-alike for Rosie Odonnel! You're so fired!
SpinCage 9 months ago
@SpinCage Are you cross Donald?
Hairpiece giving you trouble again?
I...I'm sorry!
I didn't mean it!
Let me send you a mental boo boo --> imagine a concentrated AceHoale here... Hmmmmmmmpph!
There now ... is it better?
And don't forget to flush!
Peas.
AceHoale 9 months ago
HANG ONE IN YOUR HOME? really? i mean really? why would i need that sign in my own damn home? is she high?
1combatjump 9 months ago
If you come to America to suck on Uncle Sam's tit until it runs dry, the least you can do is learn how to say "More, please."
Muzzy337 9 months ago 2
@Muzzy337 bravo, well said
midasman68 9 months ago
Viva La ENGLISH!
the82spartans 9 months ago
@snerfjudd ...and you know this, how? or do you just like proving yourself to be a fool?
ClubALib1 9 months ago
that diner can do what he or she wants, period. Enough with this pc shit. I personally would be offended and would not eat there but whatever, big deal. It is the owners right, period , there is no argument to the contrary
Panchee123 9 months ago 2
On a side note, Martha McCallum, the Hottest woman alive !
hobo59 9 months ago
If I moved to China, I'd learn Chinese, If I moved to Saudi Arabia I'd learn Arabic; and if I moved to the US, I'd definetely speak English. This is PERFECTLY REASONABLE.
Dadutta 9 months ago
Business is talking off because of the publicity, nothing else.
Wenutz 9 months ago
@Wenutz he got the business first, and then the publicity, moron.
Dadutta 9 months ago
@Dadutta fucktard, he got more business since the story broke. Now shut up and let me enjoy shitting in your mom's mouth.
Wenutz 9 months ago
@Wenutz Bwahahahaha !
hobo59 9 months ago
@Wenutz of course he gets additional business, but the story broke for a reason; the reason being that he was getting more business - now go fuck your sister
Dadutta 9 months ago
@Dadutta no dickhead, that's not what he said so quit putting your spin on it. Now let we wipe my arse on your mom's tongue.
Wenutz 9 months ago
@Wenutz I will not let you do that, and you should be ashamed of your own vulgarity, vulgarity is the desperate last resort of whoremongering losers living off their mothers. go fuck your dad in the nose
Dadutta 9 months ago
@Dadutta I do not approve of you treating me like a liar. I was indeed wiping my arse on your mother's tongue. You owe me an apology!
Wenutz 9 months ago
This is all part of an incremental approach to dissolving the USA and creating a North American Union. Look in your Home Depot, Lowes. Call any company and press 1 for English. Your public schools MUST teach children who do not speak English. Whose melting pot are we being melted in to anyway? Any you all just let it happen without a whimper.
TerrierToughGuy 9 months ago
wish more did the same
biasedreporting 9 months ago 4
I plan on going to eat there. English only by god.
uzimodem 9 months ago
He saw his business triple because of the immediate media coverage.
Not because people care about the damn sign.
Verator 9 months ago
of course government only harms business! HARMS BUSINESS WITH BULLSHIT REGULATIONS, FOOD POLICE, GREEN PEACE QUEERS AND HIGH TAXES! LIBERAL LOVE THAT!
back2backband1 9 months ago
Ohhh, what ballsy guy.
Declaring an English-only policy in some hick town where the overwhelming majority of the resident speak only English anyways.
What a courageous decision.
Do that in certain parts of Texas, you'll go out of business, not because the residents do not know English, but just due to his brazen dickery.
I understand his sentiment, many do, but he is just doing this to be a jerk, which he is entitled to do.
He also appears to be in need of English lessons too.
AlberikAlf 9 months ago
@AlberikAlf Do you live in Texas pardner? In certain parts of Texas you would be correct but that's because THOSE places have been overrun with non English speaking persons, the majority of which, if laws were enforced they wold be cleaned out.
FYI - don't go making opinion only statements and try to pass them off as fact. It renders your entire post as bullshit.
rainiertx 9 months ago
@rainiertx
You sound angry pardner.
Did one of those "non-english speaking persons" take your jerb?
I don't how you could render my entire post as bullshit when you agreed with the point I made.
FYI: "In certain parts of Texas you would be correct" - rainiertx
AlberikAlf 9 months ago
@AlberikAlf You're right, I'm angry. Not a week goes by that a news story doesn't surface that an "non English" speaking illegal alien commits a crime in one form or another. Two weeks ago a good friend was yet ANOTHER statistic of an illegal driving without insurance or a license and totaled her car. Naturally he tried to escape on foot but was run down. The son-of-a-bitch owns nothing so she has to replace the car herself. Damn right I'm angry.
rainiertx 9 months ago
I avoid buying products labeled in spanish. Keep up the good fight!
cheerdiver 9 months ago
Every business, along w/ State and Fed. buildings should apply this approach.
Che0bama 9 months ago
haha too bad beaners
TheNewMusicNetwork 9 months ago
My daughter goes to school down that way...I will have to fine this place, shake that man's hand and support his efforts by ordering some home cooking.
Just say no to Liberal Elitists trying to steal this country with illegal votes and turn it into a socialist cesspool. Not that we are almost there already.
Stop the bankruptcy of America! God Save the Republic - OTP!
nord98 9 months ago
"American" English??? that's just retarded. "It had nuthin to do with 'ethnicticity." Is that American English?
929myohmy 9 months ago
@929myohmy
That's it, Myoh; strive mightily to miss the point entirely.
Here's some "British" English: Twat
CheckDare 9 months ago
@CheckDare I understood the wanker's point. It was a lame way to say his staff only speaks English. "No speak English." Speaking of twat.... But "American" English? Guhhh.... And then to say "ethnicticity"... Always fun when people get all snotty about English and then right away come out with some bonehead language error. LOL!
929myohmy 9 months ago
"American" English??? that's just retarded.
929myohmy 9 months ago
His business did NOT triple due to "English Only" policy.
His business tripled due to advertising.
EnterEgg 9 months ago
racist scum
chilich33z 9 months ago
Fox news anchors have never been able to tell the difference between north & south carolina...
MrJesusweeps 9 months ago
I live in North Carolina (for the moment) and I'm going to patronize this man's business to show my support for him!
jamesjeffreypaul 9 months ago 3
Ok i see the language barrier. All can be solved with one picture menu that can be handed to them and giving the specail, hehe, need some will have to walk them through it. All at a nominal charge for the help, of course. But a picture menu will solve this issue period thank oyu for playing proble solved!!
depuyjd 9 months ago
Leave to a functionally sub-literate liberal to conflate speaking english with ethnic origins which is also another example of a liberal projecting their own raging prejudice. Libs will NOT be able to comprehend this analogy, not being able to be conversant in English here, is like trying to conduct commerce , where everybody is trying to use their own currency , it doesn't work.
carlindelco 9 months ago 3
Go Greg!
fourcollege 9 months ago
You must speak English to be a American citizen buy law like it or not!
Not racist just American.
atrueexperience 9 months ago
You must speak English to be a American citizen buy law like it or.
Not racist just American.
atrueexperience 9 months ago
1:34 "ethicticity"? ....I learned a new word today.
dankbot420 9 months ago
@dankbot420 - Yep, it's a real word. But it's spelled: ethnicity. Blessings!
namrednop 9 months ago
@dankbot420 that gives you a total of 3 now right?
carlindelco 9 months ago
Good for you Greg!
ustasanick 9 months ago
Maybe he should just put pictures on the menu like they do at Denny's. You know, for the vast number of Americans that are illiterate morons.
RedTory59 9 months ago
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gunloc26 9 months ago 6
@gunloc26 interesting. I watch all my free shit online. hulu, justintv, torrents, etc.
TheNewMusicNetwork 9 months ago
If your going to live in a country that predominantly speaks English, learn English.
agent4051 9 months ago 25
@agent4051 He knows english, he put 'No speak English' to insult those who don't speak it -.-
GodEmperorDano 9 months ago
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agent4051 9 months ago
@agent4051 I meant that comment for someone else, clicked yours by accident.
GodEmperorDano 9 months ago
@GodEmperorDano Ignore my last reply, it was to another person.
Yes, I realize that.
agent4051 9 months ago
@agent4051 Unless we force politicians to address this it will not a predominantly English speaking country in 30-50 years.
TerrierToughGuy 9 months ago
@TerrierToughGuy Yes, I know. First we need to make English the official language of the US (which I don't know why it isn't already). And we need to have all immigrants who are in the process of becoming citizens to learn English.
agent4051 9 months ago
There are places in California, Texas and Florida that you cannot get served if you dont speak Spanish because that is the predominant language there.
TerrierToughGuy 9 months ago
@agent4051 You mean "you're". I don't know how you could own a going.
ariuszarim 9 months ago
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@ariuszarim Doth my English bug you, bumpkin?
agent4051 9 months ago
@agent4051 yeah! even more when US citizens are so moron to learn another language!
antrocanal 9 months ago
@antrocanal We shouldn't have to learn another language just because some immigrants are to lazy to learn another language.
But I agree, every US citizen should learn another language. I learned Spanish when I was at the Border Patrol academy.
agent4051 9 months ago
@agent4051 te felicito agente!!!! imagino q sólo sabes decir "mexicano".... right?? I´m not that lazy that I supossed to be ´cause I´m a damn latin... Je parlez francaise, et vouz? Io parlo italiano, e tu?... The capital city of Florida is Tallahassee not Hialeah!... take care officer!
antrocanal 9 months ago
@antrocanal Gracias. He estado en Tallahassee un par de veces a mí mismo, que es pequeño para la capital del estado, pero agradable. Tenga cuidado.
agent4051 9 months ago
@agent4051 Speak English, crit.
ScorpioBornIn69 9 months ago
@ScorpioBornIn69 Sir, I was just replying in Spanish to someone who spoke Spanish.
agent4051 9 months ago
American English? What an idiot. This guy cant speak english very well himself. Ethniticity? I understand the point but this guys a bit ignorant.
darrenritt27 9 months ago
@darrenritt27 He is ignorant???? LOL ok Lib.. You're illiterate..
carlindelco 9 months ago
@carlindelco Illiterate? There is no such thing as "American" English and its Ethnicity not Ethniticity. Hes the illiterate one. Otherwise i agree that he has the right to refuse people who dont speak english and that immigrants should learn the predominant language of the country the move to.
darrenritt27 9 months ago
@darrenritt27 Yes there is such a thing as American English. American English differs from British English or from those of the "English ethnicity". For example in America we have " Color ". In the U.K it would be spelled as " Colour ". There is also the obvious differences in accent.
Aeros802 9 months ago
@Aeros802 Yes there are obvious differences such as accent and dialect as well as some spelling differences but otherwise English is English. I doubt that this guy would refuse someone with a British accent because they didnt speak "American English". Whats really messed up is how some people in this country with accents are harder to understand than foreigners.
darrenritt27 9 months ago
@darrenritt27
There is "American English".As a Canadian I spell colour and you spell color.
Unfortunately America might have to do a similar thing that Canada had to do.
Canada is bilingual.The two official languages are English and French.
Like it or not I can see the USA having English and Spanish bilingualism.
WilliamHBonney55 9 months ago
@WilliamHBonney55 Yes i get that but my point i can still understand you. I doubt this guy would refuse a english speaking canadian. I agree America should have two official languages. Right now we dont even really have one.
Still you would think people who come here from other countries would learn english.
darrenritt27 9 months ago
@darrenritt27
It has always pissed us off in Canada when we get people that are new to Canada that seem to not try to learn English.I remember working in a factory and trying to train immigrants how to do their job and they didn't know any English.What a pain in the ass.Many of us feel that they should have to learn English before they come here.I also doubt if this guy would refuse an English speaking Canadian or British or Australian etc.
WilliamHBonney55 9 months ago
@WilliamHBonney55 I Agree totally. I dont understand why you want to try to learn the predominant language of the country you move to. It makes things much easier for yourself and everyone else.
darrenritt27 9 months ago
@darrenritt27
I think sometimes it is stubbornness.As a Canadian I should know the metric system well.
Yet I do not.Part of the reason is that I have always had to convert back and forth.The other part is that I have chosen to hate the metric system even though people say it is much easier.The only metric I have every learned is the stuff I have had to learn like kilometer per hour.I still use feet,inches,pounds.I am not the only Canadian like that.The younger generation only knows metric.
WilliamHBonney55 9 months ago
@darrenritt27 LMAO oh ok..funny u better go tell all the teachers in our country that what they are teaching is in fact unteachable since it doesn't exist.. we;; I'm glad u see it that way.. it makes for a much better unified and working society
carlindelco 9 months ago
@carlindelco They are teaching ENGLISH. The differences are mainly trivial from other English speaking countries. My point is this guy wouldnt refuse someone from England, Iredland, Australia etc who speaks english becuase it isnt "American English". This guy cant even pronounce Ethnicity correctly.
darrenritt27 9 months ago
@darrenritt27 Well let me explain.. Mexico is part of the ..........America's , did you know that we live in NORTH America and that there is a SOUTH America.. but strangely enough they don't speak English.. fancy that... so the sign was to exemplify American - English.. A trivial complaint.. But I guess you deserve some credit for trying to find something to complain about right.. u guys are so persnickety ..What kind of world would it be with whiners like u in charge?
carlindelco 8 months ago
@carlindelco First of all America doesnt have an official language. Secondly there are plenty of dumb hicks in this country who are harder to understand than foreigners. You know, the ignorant hillbillys who lecture foreigners on the finer points of english when they cant spell and make up their own words. Ive met plenty of foreigners who speak english as a second language who are easy to understand accent and all. Ive also met plenty of hicks who only speak English that i cant understand.
darrenritt27 8 months ago
@darrenritt27 No duh!! for centuries it had been understood and millions of immigrants had RESPECT and the need in order to succeed, taught themselves the language. BUT now we have a devolved culture that requires us to demand that you speak English. And of course do you have a POINT? Speak English.. use American currency , do shit in public place, wipe your ass, take a bath.. is this where we are headed???
carlindelco 8 months ago