@TheDJRobbieK yeah and when the auto rev limiter slips in when cars are going full tit round a corner you have 10-15 fucked cars instead of 1-2 because of loss of traction from the car trying to slow down to the rev limiters speed
As the spec said, you gotta have respect on the yellows. it was a combination of fuck ups to lead to this kind of crash, yet again.. this was 09.. have they done anything to fix this yet?
@CyPha0 Track configuration is still the same, however they have installed high intensity flashing yellow lights instead of only flags.Makes it easier to see there is a caution area and have more time to slow down(the whol section is blind).
Armchair critics. Any form of motor sport is dangerous. 100 mtrs ain't much when you're going round a track at break neck speed and then you have to break hard. Blind corners are dangerous. Chris Pither had raced for quite sometime the one's making negative comments should try to put themselves in his shoes.
Chris Pither didn't miss him because he locked up and everyone knows when your wheels aren't turning your not steering. I've just checked online & he was fined for dangerous driving and fined $6000 with $3k suspended. As is stated in the video he saw the flag and he was 100 meters away at that time he had options available to him but it's clear to see from the footage that once he locked up he made no attempt to get the wheels rotating again & that's inexcusable Cromptons right
Do not say anything of saying , blaming or pointing the finger unless you are a race driver ,, raced on that track and race at the speeds that these guys do !! very easy sitting on ya assess at home throwing a pointed finger !!
@hottunes007 I hope that comment isn't directed at Neil Crompton, the commentator, though his attack of Pither seemed very scathing. Because if it is directed at Crompton, look him up on Wikipedia. I'd say he's entitled to an opinion.
The fact is, a driver had already successfully avoided him.... Chris has no excuse. For those saying he "tried to avoid him by not hitting the door" - yeah, OK, so after being completely careless and stupid, he didn't actually try and kill the other driver. Great. But if he had just paid attention in the first place there wouldn't have been any problem to begin with.
He just said "I saw the yellow flag and then Paul's car 100 metres down the road". Common sense dictates you slow down immediately if you're going in to a blind left-hand bend if you've seen the yellow flag 100 metres prior. Sorry Chris, you could have avoided this to an extent...
Chris pither isn't a bum! he is an awesome bloke! he tried to avoid Paul weel but he physically couldn't. so lay of him! he is a good driver but these things happen! go Chris Pither even though i go for HRT! lay off him!
Firstly thank god nobody was killed, every time i see that footage it brings chills to my spine, thanks to way they build these cars today, there both here to tell the tail. BUT Pith red mist is a dangerous thing in practice, maybe a bit more experience in V8s is required for you, because clearly you didn't see the flag.
i hope u die christ pither srsly u put another fellow race car drivers life at risk u inconsiderate fk..... get a life that doesn't endanger other human beings have a job that doesn't endanger other humans as well u IDIOTOTIC FK
Bull shit chris pither ur a bullshitting liar you applied the brakes more like 10-15 meters before you saw paul's car.... i mean you said that you saw the yellow flags WHY THE FK DIDN'T YOU SLOW DOWN.. and how the fk did u get ur drivers licence u fk tard.... did u learn in motor sport what the yellow flag means ffs and from ur steering wheel it looks like u were turning right... Genius you evil mind fk... u unfair found fk
'tried to pull the car as left as possible...' Pither said he tried, didnt try very hard, Brad jones managed to miss it, just. What a pither, er, pisser....
@rochez He meant a V8 Supercars penalty, not an actual road dangerous driving. And he did get this - he was fined $10,000 and a 3 race suspended ban for dangerous driving and causing an avoidable accident.
I love this track, and its because of that blind spot. The drivers take a knowing risk, they shouldnt bother. for one this sort of thing makes the race a little more nerve racking when someone spins there. If I had the driving skills, i would race there to.
The only way is if someone gets killed at that corner, sad but true. It is very easy to make that corner safe but just like this crash, the people who has the power to do that just said, well he`s alive so fuck it and lets spend the money on more sponsor signs along the track.
Am living in North america and not much v8 supercars telvised here. But what I can see. I think is bathurst will always have a level of difficulty . like a spa francorchamps eau rouge suzuka nurburgring etc. but is not Impossible to make it safer
What will it take to get that part of the track made safe ??
All they have to do is dig out the dirt behind the concrete fence about 10 to 15 meters, Push the dirt up behind them so the fans get a awsome view of the track & move the fence back & put gravel there to wash off there speed,
That way if a driver makes a mistake or something fails he wont get hit & killed like Mark Porter. They changed conrod straight when a driver was killed ??. At least this way they wont change the track
No mate the track & land up there is owned by the Bathurst City Council. The track & land all around there was privately owned by a farmer but he couldnt afford the upgrades required for the V8Supercars so he did a land swap with the council.
@tazzychopper - thats part of the risk of mount panorama. its a track that has bad consequence and will bite anyone at any time. face it, in motorsport anywhere in the world, there are going to be big crashes that will put danger into the drivers lives. thats the risk they take.
@tazzychopper well mate theres been 1 mayjor adaption to the track and that was the chase caused by the the death of a driver. that was nesesery. reid park adds alot of character to the track. mark porter was not killed at reid park, but at mcfilamy which is a little up and drops down to reid! wat we need is teams to stop trying to make the cars faster and try to make them safer
@goholden12345 I dont agree with what they did with conrod straight it has changed the track for ever.
They dont need to change the track from mcfilamy park to skyling they just need a run off area so we dont see another acciedent like this 1 & Mark Porter.
the whole idea of motor sport was not to slow down cars but to push the limits as safe as possible.
I honostly dont think they can make the cars safer than what they are at the moment the bigest problem they have is the Gforce on th body
@tazzychopper ... A gravel trap would make it even more dangerous. Most cars losing it through there have the rear end let go, if there was a gravel trap and the car is going sideways, there's a greater chance the car could roll and end up in the crowd.
@Osierus Mate if what you are saying is true then there would be thousands of fans being killed world wide form cars loosing it & hitting the gravel & flipping into the fans !!!!
You need to call every country around the world & tell them to remove all the gravel & put concrete walls up to fix what you think will fix the problem ???
There are only 1 or 2 race tracks around the world that dont have gravel Monarco is 1 that I can think of at the moment & only F1 can race there!!!
@tazzychopper If you new the mechanical computations applied with gravity & Gforces It would be imposible for a v8 supercar to slide into gravel at that spot on the race track & flip into the crowed.
Its fact not a theory, And thats why allmost every race track has gravel for the saftey of the drivers & fans.
PS: Dont bring into this discussion NASCAR racing because that is a compleatly diffrent type of racing.
there was around 9.5 seconds between weel coming to a stop and pither hitting him that is surely enough time for his team to radio to him that there was an accident up ahead.
There's too many drivers at Bathurst that don't give a stuff about the flags that are given on top of the mountain... Basically, no respect. They should be banned for life from Bathurst if they don't heed the signals...
I beg to differ. He admitted seeing the Yellow flags, in the interview - and still didn't lift off... He's not the only one to have done this at Bathurst, and there needs to be much more stringent penalties for ignoring the officials...
The first car wasn't on the brakes and could take the inside barely avoiding... Pither was standing on the brakes and without ABS the thing will go straight... nothing he could have done... He should have gone off the throttle and pray that the car doesn't oversteer but it's easier said than done at such speed and in that configuration of road
Pither was braking, he was taking evasive actions and he was going too fast to miss. Of course it was a car race where cars do tend to go fast. I'd say the commemorator's got it wrong. Does anybody know the official outcome?
The commentator was definitely not wrong. If there was a yellow flag, he should slow to a point where he could avoid anything that might be up the road.
And of course he took some evasive action, he wan't trying to crash, it was a case of too little too late
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Crompton the percect.. Im sick of this tools coments. would he have had the razor sharp reflects to be on that axact raceline and drive around Wheels car.I doubt it.Big mouth Crompton is the reason i dont watch the v8s anymore.
that is such a fast blind corner there is just now chance of missing it.
stephen98841272 1 month ago
18mikeyy you are a tool. The limiter does not hit the brakes. It limits revs.
TheDJRobbieK 2 months ago
Its an accident, nobody is to blame; that's why its called an accident.
hycron1234 4 months ago
He hit the brakes before crashing into the PWR car. Clearly didn't know the PWR car was there.
scarblade234 4 months ago
Motor racing is dangerous. Simple. Death defying track needs to be respected and those who dare win. What they need is auto rev limiter on yellow.
TheDJRobbieK 5 months ago
@TheDJRobbieK yeah and when the auto rev limiter slips in when cars are going full tit round a corner you have 10-15 fucked cars instead of 1-2 because of loss of traction from the car trying to slow down to the rev limiters speed
18mikeyy 3 months ago
at the end of this year bathurst the are reports of work to move that wall back and put a sandtrap in
tpthebull 5 months ago
As the spec said, you gotta have respect on the yellows. it was a combination of fuck ups to lead to this kind of crash, yet again.. this was 09.. have they done anything to fix this yet?
CyPha0 5 months ago
@CyPha0 Track configuration is still the same, however they have installed high intensity flashing yellow lights instead of only flags.Makes it easier to see there is a caution area and have more time to slow down(the whol section is blind).
brett1187 5 months ago
they need to widen that part of the track and try and decrease the down hill bit to that corner
haydoez88 6 months ago
Armchair critics. Any form of motor sport is dangerous. 100 mtrs ain't much when you're going round a track at break neck speed and then you have to break hard. Blind corners are dangerous. Chris Pither had raced for quite sometime the one's making negative comments should try to put themselves in his shoes.
Paulshatford 6 months ago 2
Chris Pither didn't miss him because he locked up and everyone knows when your wheels aren't turning your not steering. I've just checked online & he was fined for dangerous driving and fined $6000 with $3k suspended. As is stated in the video he saw the flag and he was 100 meters away at that time he had options available to him but it's clear to see from the footage that once he locked up he made no attempt to get the wheels rotating again & that's inexcusable Cromptons right
bigbadbecks73 8 months ago
i blame chris. crompton blames him. thats enough for me
fordchopzholden 9 months ago
It would make more sense if drivers actually bothered to take any notice of flag signals. Like Crompton says.
RickFortune 10 months ago 3
Thats the exactly same corner where David Clark plowed into Mark Porter if i'm right !!!
There's far too much crashes in that zone...
ursuss100 10 months ago
@ursuss100 I was there when that happened (Porter's crash) A sickening sight
Nascar47fan 5 months ago
paul weel at the wheel
limesoda7 11 months ago
Do not say anything of saying , blaming or pointing the finger unless you are a race driver ,, raced on that track and race at the speeds that these guys do !! very easy sitting on ya assess at home throwing a pointed finger !!
hottunes007 1 year ago 3
@hottunes007 I hope that comment isn't directed at Neil Crompton, the commentator, though his attack of Pither seemed very scathing. Because if it is directed at Crompton, look him up on Wikipedia. I'd say he's entitled to an opinion.
blockheadface 9 months ago
The fact is, a driver had already successfully avoided him.... Chris has no excuse. For those saying he "tried to avoid him by not hitting the door" - yeah, OK, so after being completely careless and stupid, he didn't actually try and kill the other driver. Great. But if he had just paid attention in the first place there wouldn't have been any problem to begin with.
bugio22 1 year ago
He did avoid it to an extent! He hit the back of pails car instead of the drivers door! He saved pails life!
speedyholden 1 year ago
He just said "I saw the yellow flag and then Paul's car 100 metres down the road". Common sense dictates you slow down immediately if you're going in to a blind left-hand bend if you've seen the yellow flag 100 metres prior. Sorry Chris, you could have avoided this to an extent...
davidmclaughlin01 1 year ago
Chris pither isn't a bum! he is an awesome bloke! he tried to avoid Paul weel but he physically couldn't. so lay of him! he is a good driver but these things happen! go Chris Pither even though i go for HRT! lay off him!
speedyholden 1 year ago
A blind spot on any track is unacceptable in this age. Lets fix it asap.
eckyspondoolie 1 year ago
Firstly thank god nobody was killed, every time i see that footage it brings chills to my spine, thanks to way they build these cars today, there both here to tell the tail. BUT Pith red mist is a dangerous thing in practice, maybe a bit more experience in V8s is required for you, because clearly you didn't see the flag.
motomovers 1 year ago
i hope u die christ pither srsly u put another fellow race car drivers life at risk u inconsiderate fk..... get a life that doesn't endanger other human beings have a job that doesn't endanger other humans as well u IDIOTOTIC FK
FlameThrash900 1 year ago
Bull shit chris pither ur a bullshitting liar you applied the brakes more like 10-15 meters before you saw paul's car.... i mean you said that you saw the yellow flags WHY THE FK DIDN'T YOU SLOW DOWN.. and how the fk did u get ur drivers licence u fk tard.... did u learn in motor sport what the yellow flag means ffs and from ur steering wheel it looks like u were turning right... Genius you evil mind fk... u unfair found fk
FlameThrash900 1 year ago
'tried to pull the car as left as possible...' Pither said he tried, didnt try very hard, Brad jones managed to miss it, just. What a pither, er, pisser....
dazza027 1 year ago
I mean, charges for dangerous driving, how bloody ridiculous is that!
The next thing he'll be accusing him of is speeding!!
rochez 1 year ago
@rochez He meant a V8 Supercars penalty, not an actual road dangerous driving. And he did get this - he was fined $10,000 and a 3 race suspended ban for dangerous driving and causing an avoidable accident.
megamanonteckdeck 1 year ago
@megamanonteckdeck
Ok, sorry mate, my V8 regs are a bit rusty!
A bit harsh , although maybe he should have responded to the yellows quicker.
rochez 1 year ago
This idiot is contradicting himself, he accuses the driver of being asleep at the wheel, then admits that its a blind corner!
rochez 1 year ago
motorsport is dangerouse but if he was on a flyer he wasnt asleep at the wheel he was more botherd about going fast
britdemo 1 year ago
I love this track, and its because of that blind spot. The drivers take a knowing risk, they shouldnt bother. for one this sort of thing makes the race a little more nerve racking when someone spins there. If I had the driving skills, i would race there to.
BlackMetalWarewolf 1 year ago
The only way is if someone gets killed at that corner, sad but true. It is very easy to make that corner safe but just like this crash, the people who has the power to do that just said, well he`s alive so fuck it and lets spend the money on more sponsor signs along the track.
Sooksawaspakdee961 1 year ago
omg thats gotta hurt
dingalingbell1 1 year ago
Am living in North america and not much v8 supercars telvised here. But what I can see. I think is bathurst will always have a level of difficulty . like a spa francorchamps eau rouge suzuka nurburgring etc. but is not Impossible to make it safer
jraybay 1 year ago
What will it take to get that part of the track made safe ??
All they have to do is dig out the dirt behind the concrete fence about 10 to 15 meters, Push the dirt up behind them so the fans get a awsome view of the track & move the fence back & put gravel there to wash off there speed,
That way if a driver makes a mistake or something fails he wont get hit & killed like Mark Porter. They changed conrod straight when a driver was killed ??. At least this way they wont change the track
tazzychopper 2 years ago 8
@tazzychopper i completely agree
v8supercarcrashes 2 years ago
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speederbrad95 1 year ago
maybe the land behind is privately owned, and the owner isnt interested in selling or compensation, just a thought
jewlzben 2 years ago
No mate the track & land up there is owned by the Bathurst City Council. The track & land all around there was privately owned by a farmer but he couldnt afford the upgrades required for the V8Supercars so he did a land swap with the council.
tazzychopper 2 years ago
@tazzychopper - thats part of the risk of mount panorama. its a track that has bad consequence and will bite anyone at any time. face it, in motorsport anywhere in the world, there are going to be big crashes that will put danger into the drivers lives. thats the risk they take.
yorangaranga 1 year ago
@tazzychopper well mate theres been 1 mayjor adaption to the track and that was the chase caused by the the death of a driver. that was nesesery. reid park adds alot of character to the track. mark porter was not killed at reid park, but at mcfilamy which is a little up and drops down to reid! wat we need is teams to stop trying to make the cars faster and try to make them safer
goholden12345 1 year ago
@goholden12345 I dont agree with what they did with conrod straight it has changed the track for ever.
They dont need to change the track from mcfilamy park to skyling they just need a run off area so we dont see another acciedent like this 1 & Mark Porter.
the whole idea of motor sport was not to slow down cars but to push the limits as safe as possible.
I honostly dont think they can make the cars safer than what they are at the moment the bigest problem they have is the Gforce on th body
tazzychopper 1 year ago
@tazzychopper ... A gravel trap would make it even more dangerous. Most cars losing it through there have the rear end let go, if there was a gravel trap and the car is going sideways, there's a greater chance the car could roll and end up in the crowd.
Osierus 1 year ago
@Osierus Mate if what you are saying is true then there would be thousands of fans being killed world wide form cars loosing it & hitting the gravel & flipping into the fans !!!!
You need to call every country around the world & tell them to remove all the gravel & put concrete walls up to fix what you think will fix the problem ???
There are only 1 or 2 race tracks around the world that dont have gravel Monarco is 1 that I can think of at the moment & only F1 can race there!!!
tazzychopper 1 year ago
@tazzychopper If you new the mechanical computations applied with gravity & Gforces It would be imposible for a v8 supercar to slide into gravel at that spot on the race track & flip into the crowed.
Its fact not a theory, And thats why allmost every race track has gravel for the saftey of the drivers & fans.
PS: Dont bring into this discussion NASCAR racing because that is a compleatly diffrent type of racing.
tazzychopper 1 year ago
@tazzychopper well said,
gozney1987 7 months ago
there was around 9.5 seconds between weel coming to a stop and pither hitting him that is surely enough time for his team to radio to him that there was an accident up ahead.
fordrule888 2 years ago
I don't see why you couldn't have a sandtrap or run off on the outside of the corner. They found room one bend away after the 1981 race
db120176 2 years ago
pither knows he is in the shit. i can hear it in his voice
fordchopzholden 2 years ago
har har ,,, get out of the way ,, kiwi coming through LOL
hottunes007 2 years ago 4
bloody kiwis lol
trahcceb 2 years ago 3
There's too many drivers at Bathurst that don't give a stuff about the flags that are given on top of the mountain... Basically, no respect. They should be banned for life from Bathurst if they don't heed the signals...
robngal 2 years ago
Its a blind spot on the course, it wasn't his fault.
JoffXXX 2 years ago 21
I beg to differ. He admitted seeing the Yellow flags, in the interview - and still didn't lift off... He's not the only one to have done this at Bathurst, and there needs to be much more stringent penalties for ignoring the officials...
robngal 2 years ago 2
@JoffXXX he admitted it was his fault.their were yellow flags out straight away so he should of pulled off the throttle
TheHogster888 1 year ago
As Chris said, by the time he had seen the yellow it was to late..End of..Why ban him for life ?
michaelball123 2 years ago
The first car wasn't on the brakes and could take the inside barely avoiding... Pither was standing on the brakes and without ABS the thing will go straight... nothing he could have done... He should have gone off the throttle and pray that the car doesn't oversteer but it's easier said than done at such speed and in that configuration of road
TheFPF422 2 years ago
Pither was braking, he was taking evasive actions and he was going too fast to miss. Of course it was a car race where cars do tend to go fast. I'd say the commemorator's got it wrong. Does anybody know the official outcome?
XXY4LIFE 2 years ago
Pither said he didn't see the yellow flags... was fined $6k for careless driving I think
harderfaster101 2 years ago
The commentator was definitely not wrong. If there was a yellow flag, he should slow to a point where he could avoid anything that might be up the road.
And of course he took some evasive action, he wan't trying to crash, it was a case of too little too late
hapul 2 years ago
cromely's a legend mate. he never gets it wrong
fordchopzholden 2 years ago 4
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Crompton the percect.. Im sick of this tools coments. would he have had the razor sharp reflects to be on that axact raceline and drive around Wheels car.I doubt it.Big mouth Crompton is the reason i dont watch the v8s anymore.
10101964pb 2 years ago
yea fuck that
choperdogness 2 years ago
surprised no one died there!!!
chancedingo 2 years ago 14
@chancedingo true :D its bullshit how chris made an excuse and i have to agree with neil crompton :D jack ass = chris pither
FlameThrash900 1 year ago