A Challenge to all Pre-tribulation Rapture Preachers! pt 1 of 15

[Midnite4Life777]

This is for you PRETRIB NON Rapture activists lmao! I SAY AGAIN AND AGAIN WHEN DO YOU THINK TRIBULATION HAS STARTED??? TO US MANY OF ASSOCIATE PASTORS WHO BELIEVE TRIBULATION HAS STARTED WHEN ISRAEL BECAME A NATION ONCE MORE WHICH IS THE MAIN PROPHECY WHICH WAS TOLD BY DANIEL AND HIS TIMELINE! AND SINCE THEN MANY WARS, DEATH, FAMINES, NATURAL DISASTERS ETC... AND IF YOU ARE WATCHING THE WORLD AND THE GLOBAL ELITE ITS GETTING MUCH WORST AND THINGS SEEM TO BE MOVING FASTER! TRIBULATION IS NOW!!!

[gadawk2010]

@Midnite4Life777 The "great tribulation" is not now, but in the future (see Matthew 24).

[duckleggs57]

con: HIS LAW( THE 10 COMMANDMENTS).Although the sign is invisible to men,GOD will know who has which mark. Nevertheless the foundation of GOD standeth sure,having this seal,The LORD knoweth them that are His( 2 Timothy 2:19).A lot of people today,DO NOT understand what is GOD'S SEAL,this is GOD'S SEAL.This is what GOD wanted people to know. MAY GOD BLESS

[gadawk2010]

@duckleggs57 What point are u trying to make?

[duckleggs57]

con:found in HIS LAW,specifically the SABBATH,and is a sign of HIS POWER,thus recieving GOD'S SEAL is obtained by keeping HIS LAW( THE 10 COMMANDMENTS).Revelation tells of 2 groups of people 1) The servants of GOD will bear HIS SEAL in their foreheads(Rev 7:3); 2) Everyone else will recieve the MARK OF THE BEAST in their foreheads or hands(Rev 13:16; 14:9).So,What is THE SEAL of GOD,which will protect us? "Bind Thou Up The Testimony,SEAL THE LAW among my desciples(Isaiah 8:16).So,GOD'S SEAL is

[duckleggs57]

What is GOD'S SEAL?A Seal has(3) characteristics-NAME,OFFICE,TE­RRITORY.Where in GOD'S LAW do we find HIS SEAL? The 4th Commandment.For in six days THE LORD MADE HEAVEN and EARTH,the SEA,and ALL THAT IN THEM IS and rested the seventh day,Wherefore The LORD blessed the SABBATH day,and hallowed it.His Name-THE LORD; His Office-"MADE" CREATOR;His Territory-HEAVEN and EARTH,the SEA,and ALL THAT IN THEM IS.The 4th commandment(The SABBATH) is the only commandment that contains GOD'S SEAL.GOD'S SEAL is

[duckleggs57]

Hello FreeToLive: I'm 54 years old.I know we all stumble,and I know I have,many times.But with God's help I have made it to this age.by His grace only. God Bless

[fatboysporty1]

Keep the faith the truth will set the captive free God Bless :)

[gadawk2010]

@fatboysporty1 God bless you!

[Midiman45]

Amen bro! I will agree with you on this as I have in the past-The Tribulation and The Wrath of God are 2 different things or Events! People are not understanding bro Gadawk>>>?? Peace!

Midiman

[gadawk2010]

@Midiman45 Amen brother, Amen!

[duckleggs57]

please keep up the Lord's work, I agree,that all pretribulation rapture believers,are going to be very disappointed,when they finally wake up,to the fact ,that they were lied to or misled,mostly by ignorance,as what most people were taught,their whole lives. thank you

[gadawk2010]

@duckleggs57 Thanks for your righteous comments.

be blessed!

[TrumpetCallofGodLT]

Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."

Watch:

"youtube.com/watch?v=lutJYDxP6­ys"

"youtube.com/watch?v=R9ike7PKd­8U"

"youtube.com/watch?v=Wuq5zscZn­1Q"

Regards.

[deannbennett2732]

there is actually 3-raptures. the first raptured is the dead in Christ. the second rapture is the church (His saints) and the third is the 144,000.

[gadawk2010]

@deannbennett2732 Where does it say that in the Bible? Or are u assuming and imagining that is what is going to happen?

[duckleggs57]

@deannbennett2732 were have you come up,with that? the first time Jesus came was as a LAMB, the second time will be as a LION. no where does it state that he's coming 3,4,5 times.The Wrath of GOD,at the last is GOD,not his son,but the FATHER.  lol

[deannbennett2732]

The church is never mentioned past Rev 4 because by Rev 9 the great multitude is the raptured church. I have studied Perry Stone's teachings for over 14 years. Somehow you don't understand him? This is the only reason why I can imagine that you mis-quote him. The seventh trumpet is sounded by an angel. It is Christ who sounds the last Trump. It is not an angel......

[deannbennett2732]

The church is never mentioned past Rev 4 because by Rev 9 the great multitude is the raptured church.

[deannbennett2732]

Numberless multitudes clothed in white robes mentioned is in Rev 9? The seventh trump is brought about by an angel where the last trump is God's voice. 1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

[reallayman011]

Good to see you again! maybe this will help show a one-time return for all you come in contact with.

Whatever happens: do NOT deny the Lord!

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[FreeT0Live]

It is illegal for God's Very Elect to see, smell or hear God's Wrath Judgment. That is why Noah's Ark had no windows. That is why the doors were ordered closed and window's covered during passover. That is why Lot's wife was warned not to look back at Sodom. The Great Tribulation is God's Wrath Judgment for 7 years that will cover every inch of this earth. There is no place other than Heaven to be safe during the ceremony. We return with Him.

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[gadawk2010]

@FreeT0Live Show me in the Bible where it says that the "Great Tribulation is God's wrath judgment for 7 years." If u r correct, then why does the Bible say, "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." Revelation 12:12

[FreeT0Live]

@gadawk2010 I am not a debater. Hold on to what you believe. We do know that when judgment came for Sodom it was done in 1 day. When judgment came for Pharoh it lasted for 7 days. When judgment came for the world it lasted 40 days. The main importance is we be not here for the beginning of His Wrath for He said "God Did not appoint us to wrath". The anti-christ cannot show himself until those whom house the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way.(blessed hope or referred to as the rapture)

[duckleggs57]

the  great tribulation is not God's wrath,it is Satan's wrath on GOD's people,as satan thinks,but god will protect his people,not by taking them out,but by shielding them with his love and mercy.As in Noah,Did God save Noah from the flood or through the flood? God saved Noah through the flood,Noah was in the world,during the flood,wasn't he? the same as when Daniel was in the lions den,and when Shadrach,Meshach and Abednego was in the furance,,this is how GOD works,to be spotless and wrinkle fre

[FreeT0Live]

@duckleggs57 You're very close to the truth! :)) We are NOT appointed unto Wrath Judgment. It is illegal for God's Righteous to see His Wrath Judgment with their eyes. This is why Noah's Boat had no windows, this is why the Angels order all windows covered and doors closed during Passover, this is why Lot's wife was told NOT to look back at sodom's Wrath Judgment. God has NEVER allow His Wrath Judgment to touch His Righteous Followers. For 7 Years...Hell on earth We in Heaven!

[duckleggs57]

@FreeT0Live the only ones ti see GOD's wrath at the last will be sinners,not the christian,they will be removed,before the last day.,and I mean the last day,the every last.The Father,The Son and The Holy Ghost, I believe Jesus will remove the christians,before God exacts his wrath on the sinners,including satan's final judgement,banding satan in hell forever. I also believe the 3 trinity,FATHER,being one.The SON being the 2,and The HOLY GHOST being the 3. Three separate enities

[FreeT0Live]

@duckleggs57 May I ask how old you are?



[NickelsBuckingBulls]

@duckleggs57 In John 6:39-40 Christ says he will remove his Bride on the Last Day.

[korveilmusic]

I use to think his guy was wrong. Now that I research I find that all scripture used to explain the Rapture is actually referring to 2nd coming. Jesus is Not coming halfway down to stop in the air and turn around and go back to heaven. We will meet him in the air at the 2nd coming. "We" will also see the abomination of desolation, "We" will also be persecuted. Satan has Christians preparing to escape instead of preparing for War. That's why iniquity will abound. Lack of Knowledge!!!

[gadawk2010]

@korveilmusic Yes, the rapture of the church is at the end of this age, not 7 years before the end, neither 3 1/2 yrs before the end, but at the "last day" (John 11:24, Matt. 13:39).

[MinisterQuietBuck]

Pre, Mid and Post rapture doctrine are all false. The Jesuits invented the rapture about 383 yrs ago. One only needs to read Pro 10:30, Psalm 37, Ez 13:20, John 17:15 to realize the righteous never leave. If one opens a Concordance for the famous 1Thess 4:17. One will realize its a repeat of Ex and Deut. For Clouds = Pillar of Fire (YHWH's hand) and Air means lower, denser air. The only ones leaving are the tares, Matt 13:30. Never been a rapture yet people think its coming, Ecc 1:9.

[gadawk2010]

@MinisterQuietBuck Sir, evidently, u r being deceived by a spirit of error and delusion: "...Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thess. 4:17

[MinisterQuietBuck]

@gadawk2010: 1Thess 4:17, Clouds G3507: the cloud which led the Israelites in the wilderness (Pillar of Fire from Ex and Deut). Air G109: the air, particularly the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air.

quote "u r being deceived by a spirit of error and delusion". Pro 12:1 Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish. 1Tim 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

[MinisterQuietBuck]

@gadawk2010:

Pro 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

Jn 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

Ez 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Master YHWH; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

[gadawk2010]

@MinisterQuietBuck  Ok.

[FreeT0Live]

@MinisterQuietBuck Sorry..I respectfully disagree with you. While speaking to a murderous sect, the Spirit came over me and had me say to them, "You will remain here to be TESTED" meaning the "Hour of Temptation" which is the Great Tribulation and the lie which everyone left behind will believe unto their damnation. This TEST is coming and God's Very Elect will not see nor taste it. He has kept the righteous during the flood, Passover and Lot running up into the hills..He hasn't change.

[MinisterQuietBuck]

@FreeT0Live: Yes, we will be kept from that hour.

Zep 2:3 Seek ye YHWH, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of YHWH's anger.

Zec 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YHWH is my Elohim.

[MinisterQuietBuck]

@FreeT0Live: I was in error on the 383 yrs, that was for the letter J. Must of been a late night and I got my numbers/years crossed.

[MsCread]

if they are wrong and unwilling to correct their false teaching then they are actually unwilling to humble themselves before the Lord. I am so looking forward to listening to this series. Thank you!

[gadawk2010]

@MsCread Thank you! "If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained." I Timothy 4:6

[reignwithchrist]

I believe the idea that Jesus descended into Hell is a myth, much like the pre trib rapture is a myth. The Apostle Creed is where this myth is most commonly seen. 1 peter 3:19 is where this idea mostly stems from.  This is a confusing passage. I don't believe it proves that Christ descended into hell, but I can see why some might think that it does. If anything, I believe that it may be referring to him preaching to those spirits in Abraham's bosom.

[gadawk2010]

@reignwithchrist Psalm 9:17, 139:8, and Ephesians 4:8-10 might help give some light on the subject.

[reignwithchrist]

@gadawk2010 I'll look into those scriptures. I appreciate the response.

God bless your ministry.

[reignwithchrist]

Jesus endured the wrath of God during His crucifiction see isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Therefore, the wrath that he endured was on the cross. There was no need for him to go to hell. He bore our sins on the cross, was buried, and then conquered death in his resurrection.

[reignwithchrist]

In one of these videos you ask, "Did Jesus go to hell after he was killed?" My answer is not definite by any means, but I don't believe he did.

Luke 23:43. Jesus tells the thief on the cross that today he will be with him in paradise. In Ephesians 4 we learn that Christ descended into the lower parts of the earth. I don't take this to mean that he went to hell, but that he was buried. See also Hebrews 2:9

[reignwithchrist]

Nice videos brother. Why is this concept so hard for people to understand? Looking forward to the other parts of the series. It seems that you and I have come to the same conclusions by reading scripture in context. I believed in a pre trib rapture from 2001 til earlier this year. Truth be told, I just believed what I was taught by others. I bought this theory of pre trib hook, line, and sinker. It's a nice theory, but it is false. Keep preaching and check out my videos.

[Midiman45]

Amen! I'm looking forward to the series of videos on this teaching! Thank God for people who will stand up for truth! Peace!

Midiman