Meeting between Salafi and Qadiani (english subtitle) before debate

[AliH4ider]

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Ya Ali Madad

[MuslimVlogGuy]

More english subtitles for future videos. insha Allaah!

I'm curious to learn more about this account. I want to know if this channel takes from the current 'Ulemma as well. Who do they consider scholars?

[alhudawannoor]

@MuslimVlogGuy; i am sorry brother but we shall stop here for the translation regarding the video of Qadiani since this was our first translation and we wanted to test it and see the impact....the next video with subtitle will be " Why Saudi doesnt bann Shia from performing hajj?"

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

he doesnt know arabic, well there is a suprise, neither does farmer mullah masroor

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Woow all your arguments are based on characteristics of Ahmadi Muslims. Every single post that you make on youtube, or video, does not have any support from the Holy Quran regarding the difference in beliefs of Ahmadi Muslims and the rest of the 72 sects.

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

lol

give me one verse from quran that mentiones mahdi

just one

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

We had the discussion regarding Mahdi on a different post already. Why are you still on that topic, even you believe in a Mahdi as a Muslim, so what is the point of me trying to prove your own belief???? Get real. I mean, if you study Ahadith, you would know that the Mahdi and Messiah, which are one and the same, is mentioned in the Ahadith. A Promised Reformer a.s, which is also the Mahdi, is mentioned in the Holy Quran in ch 62, v 3.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Ok, how about this, you show me one verse to prove that Jesus a.s has physically, ascended to heavan, since this is a crucial difference between Ahmadi Muslims and mainstream Muslims. Just one verse and the discussion regarding everything else will be settled as well since it all relates to this.

thanks

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

your entire religion is based on mahdi

so show me where he is mentioned in quran

many thanks

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

I entire religion (Islam), is not just based on Mahdi. It is based on the Holy Quran and the Ahadith. What don't you understand about the fact that the only difference between Ahmadi Muslims and the rest of the sects is that we believe the Reformer has come and you are still waiting, and will continue to wait until the Day of Judgement.

I see how you ignored the point about death of Jesus a.s. Again, Mahdi and Promised Messiah is the same person (Ibn-e-Maja).

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

So i'll ask you one last time, if your argument that Jesus a.s ascended to heaven, is supported by the Holy Quran, then quote the chapter and verse.

thanks

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Look if you prove that Jesus a.s physically and bodily went to heaven, then all other discussions are done, but if I prove that he has passed away, then again all other arguments are done as well, since it is all interconnected.

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

haha typical ahmadi running away

your whoooooooole religion is based on the idea that mirza qadiani is mahdi

now it doesnt matter wether Isa (as) is dead or alive,

you show us all where the quran mentions mahdi

and we have to accept him

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Answer, one question, do you believe in the Ahadith? The Holy Prophet s.a.w said that when this Reformer comes in the latter days, make sure that you take bai'at on his hands. And according to the Holy Prophet s.a.w the Reformer and Mahdi is the one and the same, so whether he is talking about the Messiah in the latter days or Mahdi, he is talking about the same person. So he told us the importance of accepting the Promised Messiah a.s.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Plus this True Islam is only following the Holy Prophet s.a.w by accepting Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s as the Reformer.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

You continue on to laugh and write "lol", but fail to answer my questions when I have completely answered yours. Why can't we now discuss the death of Jesus a.s?

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

I see that every time a speak and ask you about the death of Jesus a.s, you stop replying.

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

your brain doesnt function?

your whole cult is based on the belief that mirza qadiani was mahdi

now I am asking you to show me mahdi in quran

what has jesus got to do with this?

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Jesus a.s has everything to do with this. You clearly lack in the understanding of the concept of Messiah.  Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s is the Messiah that was foretold by the Holy Prophet s.a.w in the latter days to revive Islam and show the truth about Islam from its misconceptions. This reformer, as stated by the Holy Prophets.a.w is also the Mahdi(the one who guides). So we believe that he is spiritually Jesus a.s, as opposed to the erroneous idea of a physical Jesus.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

So as a result, proving that Jesus a.s has passed away 2000 years ago would show that your whole concept of Messiah is wrong and so the discussion would be over because, as I stated before, this is the main difference between us. It is surprising how you still fail to show me even one verse to prove his physical ascension, and your Maulvis still claim that it is written in the Holy Quran, when over 20 times in the Holy Quran it mentions his death.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

And I have already told you that Mahdi is mentioned in the sayings of the Holy Prophet s.a.w

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

And for the last time why do you keep telling me to prove something that all Muslims believe in?

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Hows about if you really want to talk and are sure that what you are saying is correct version of Islam, lets have a talk or debate face to face. I hope you are willing to do so. I will be waiting for your prompt reply.

JazakAllah and may Allah show you the true path of Islam and being you once again to Ahmadiyyat.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

So what if he doesn't know arabic. The prophet of Islam (saw) didn't know how to read or write and yet he was the best of creation. Since you know arabic I assume and are adamant on proving things from the Qur'an, show me where it says the in order to be a prophet, messenger, khalifa, etc. arabic is necessary.

[Leaf2812]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

I'm not up for any debate, but heres an answer to the arabic knowledge question:

See verse 2 of surah Yusuf.

Also please see sunan Abi Dawud: 11: 370, about your so called Mahdi whose fathers name is not the same as the prophets PBUH fathers name.

Among other verses. How will you rule the muslims, if you don't know the language of the Quran and the prophet PBUH, which are that we take rulings from? You too view the sources authentic, so you need it!

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@Leaf2812

It is about the understanding of the Holy Quran which is important. My example I put was that even the HOly Prophet s.a.w could not read or write arabic, but yet he was still Khatamun Nabiyeen. Its about understanding the Quran which is the key. That is why Islam Ahmadiyyat has a Khilafat and no other Muslim community does, and it will be impossible for you to establish one since the Khalifa is appointed by God.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@Leaf2812

And about the Hadith of the Mahdi having the same name as the Holy Prophet s.a.w's father, now that is not to be taken literally, it simply means in character, i mean come on. There was a man in Mecca who said that his father's name was Abdullah, and his mother's name was Amna and he claimed to be the Mahdi, and he immediately got killed by the Saudis. The literal names of the Mahdi's parents are not gonna judge his truthfullness, it is about the character.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@Leaf2812

The other thing is that we the Ahmadi Muslims, as True Muslims want to discuss these matters in person and show to you in person the verses from the Holy Quran which prove that Jesus a.s passed away and that subordinate prophets can come. But people like @AhmadiyyaChannel who spread blatant lies about the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community do not come to exchange in diologue.

[Leaf2812]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

I get your point of view. I'm in no position of making a debate, because I can't speak or read arabic and my knowledge is generally low.. About the tafsir of the Quran, I know what you're talking about:

islamicsearchcenter[DOT]com/ar­chive/2010/02/answering-qadian­is-jesus-pbuh-did-not-die-acco­rding-to-quran/

This is only for you, don't debate back because I can't argue for it. The prophet could not read, but he could understand arabic better than most.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@Leaf2812

You keep sending information that your sunni scholars have made, which are entirely wrong. I suggest that you read our books with an open mind and then come to a conclusion rather than just listening to the mullahs. Their idea is to copy paste our texts and then send fatwas. Even the Holy Prophet s.a.w said that the so-called scholars among my umma in later days would be the worst creatures under the canopy of the earth.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

I'm still waiting on your reply to my debate request. If you think you are able to defend your perspective of Islam than I ask you come and put your arguments forth for all of us to hear and judge. And we will do the same, so I hope you are not running away from this request.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

I see you have not replied to the face-to-face talk.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

Plus the natural death of Jesus a.s is clearly mentioned in the Holy Quran more than 20 times! I don't understand why Mainstream Muslims like sunni and shiia cannot see this.

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

I think the topic should have been regarding the death of Jesus a.s, because if this topic is settled, then all other topics will be settled as well since they all relate to this. Plus the arguments should be supported by the Holy Quran or Ahadith (authentic). Even if the topic is about the finality of Prophethood, Ahmadi Muslims will support their arguments through the Holy Quran since it is clearly written in the Quran regarding both subjects.

[alhudawannoor]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife; dont worry, the debat too will be upload...

our team is working on it

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@AhmadiMuslimForLife

typical ahmadi tactic, they don t want to talk about mirza qadiani

[AhmadiMuslimForLife]

@AhmadiyyaChannel

Wooowwwww, typical Ahmadi tactic??? It is because we are Muslim and we believe in the perfection of the Holy Quran and that is the reason we believe that discussion and arrguments should be supported thorugh this perfect book. The typical Mullah tactic is to take the books of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s and then copy paste his words to spread further lies. Before you guys try to make false allegations against his books, I suggest you read them first.