Marine PAO Responds to Gun Confiscation Question

[Lapboard56]

I know if the marines or any body tryed to take firearms from me if I did nothing wrong they would be having a very bad day

[theanxiousone1]

these marines should hzve stNded down from the order there such fukin tools and us gov are satanic cult

[ev1lcupcak3]

As a Marine, I would protect the constitutional rights of the people

[watchman001]

i agree but they're tearing up the constitution as we speak. that works both ways though. if it doesn't apply to them then it doesn't apply to us either. as long as we have our guns we have the ability to take our country back, if we can find a way to get along with each other and unite.

[ozzyman1203]

PROBLEM IS.. THE "YOUNG" RECRUITS DON'T "KNOW BETTER".. IT IS THE SEASONED VET I'D HOPE TO REASON WITH!

[Americanpride07]

My husband is a former Marine and is training me to use a weapon

[watchman001]

un soldiers could do it and not give to spits.

[ozzyman1203]

@watchman001 THE CONSTITUTION WROTE WITHIN IT THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO "DEFEND" AGAINST SUCH A THING, I DO NOT PERSONALLY "LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING TO DO SO"... BUT I SHALL DEFEND MY FAMILY AND SELF AGAINST "ALL ENEMIES" BE IT FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC "THIS I SWEAR", SO HELP ME GOD!

[xpat73]

You idiots....you should be concenred with the outsourcing of JOBS by those "Patriots" in Congress, especially the right wing.....guns like abortion is a side issue......follow the money.

[jesse2076]

@xpat73 the right to own guns is not a side issue

[watchdog68]

@xpat73 I understand your passion on the issue of NAFTA and the outsorcing of businesses to third world countries. I know, I was affected by it firsthand in 2002. The idea of bringing the companies we lost back to America will never ever happen. All that we can do to stop it is (you won't like the answer) keep purchasing any high quality products still being made in Amercia rather than at Target or Walmart (if still possible). But the general public doesn't see it that way.

[watchdog68]

@xpat73 But even all of that will not be enough to stop the corporate greed. All the executives look at are bottom line profit margins. If they can get the same item made elsewhere in some third world country with an overall 90% reduction in employee wages & benefits, AND on top of that "no tariffs" upon imports, it only makes sense that businesses would relocate elsewhere out of America.

So you midas well fight for what you still have, not what you already lost.

[xpat73]

@watchdog68 We can start by electing people who will pass laws to prevent outsourcing. It is easy fro Congress to pass laws saying, if you want to do business in the US, and trade on the NYSE, and use our courts etc...then you must keep 80% of your jobs in the US. That's what I do not get about the Tea Party....they want to vote more crazy right wing people that will sell them out even more.

[watchdog68]

@xpat73 Most of the Tea Party by in large was ALWAYS part of the republican political machine. Have you noticed who headed Tea Party events in 2009? I think I saw Glenn Beck once with Ted Nugent together at one event, then Sarah Palin at another event. That's not true independece from the two parties, it's more of the same old freakin' run around. The two party system will ALWAYS own America until the very bitter end ... which isn't too far off (perhaps within the next 10-15 years). Hate to say.

[xpat73]

@watchdog68 We can start by electing people who will pass laws to prevent outsourcing. It is easy fro Congress to pass laws saying, if you want to do business in the US, and trade on the NYSE, and use our courts etc...then you must keep 80% of your jobs in the US. That's what I do not get about the Tea Party....they want to vote more crazy right wing people that will sell them out even more....I know that the Dems pushed NAFTA as well...but the Republicans only care about bib biz and profits.

[watchdog68]

@xpat73 It's two parties which are really the same. Both parties want the same end result - power of the national treasury (so they can bilk it), have the media misinform the public - keeping topics which are unconstitutional out of the news, then ever so methodically strip away the constitutional rights from the people who are in essence sheeple to the whole ordeal. Hey, it already happened under G.W. Bush's watch with the DHS - Suspension of 4th Amendment rights, unwarranted wire tapping, etc.

[USAdude30]

@watchdog68 Huh...I could have wrote that script.You just summed up how I see it with your comments bordering on commentary's.I salute you sir.

[watchdog68]

@USAdude30 Thanks :-)

[USAdude30]

@watchdog68 You bet:-)

[watchdog68]

@xpat73 "Bilk" wasn't the right word to use for what the parties want to do to the Treasury. I meant to say "Plunder" but I didn't have enough character space left to fit it in. So there you go "PLUNDER".

[watchdog68]

I credit this Marine for coming up with the right answer at the end: "Marines have the right to refuse an unlawful order." Well it was almost right. Soldiers have an obligation to disobey an unlawful order, and any order which is unconstitutional is unlawful.

[zTiamaTz]

All Marines are rifleman first. Whether they are front line infantry or work in accounting or the motor pool.

Each of them know how important their weapon is to them. I could never see any Marine going along with what would be an obviously illegal order.

[Omnignosis]

I guess every man and woman fighting in Afghanistan turned on the constituition when they decided to fight illegal wars started without congressional consent.

[MstrMnd420]

@Omnignosis wasn't those men and women who refused to fight charged with going Awol and prosecuted?? If so, then it kind of goes back to do what I say or reap the consequences??

[Omnignosis]

@MstrMnd420

We should save money and instead of donating to another assholes campaign fund, use it to put a bounty out on politician's heads who think they can do whatever they wany.

[MstrMnd420]

@Omnignosis Yea the problem is who do you go after?  They are all mere puppets. I most certainly know, they will each have their own day tho = )

[Omnignosis]

@MstrMnd420

Start with all the assholes in Kalifornia. We'll hang Pellossi first though.

[Balzy73]

They used National Guardsmen and Blackwater Mercenaries to confiscate weapons from law abiding citizens after Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. These weapons were never returned.

[plalelal]

@Balzy73

So sad but true! That's the reality folks. Where do you draw the line? After you are are no longer a threat?

[Darusdei]

there was a psych study made and it showed that people are willing to do the most horrific things if they're ordered to do it, so dont think for a second that a soldier, marine whatever, wouldnt turn their guns on u.s. citizens if they're ordered to...

[Darusdei]

when a marine refuses an order, do you really think that will stop anything?

[Michaelllllllllll]

If you disobey and "Unconstitutional" order in the field you will be lucky to survive. Pat Tillman figured this out first hand. It is now reported by Fox News that the troops are helping in the cultivation of poppy in Afghanistan.

This is the video and it is for your good that opium use is up and they get to throw you in jail for using this stuff.

/watch?v=N_gOaPeSCME

[mrnmdk]

air force wing nut hell no ,i wouldn't dare confiscate a gun from a law abiding citizen

[xstreemquestoutdoors]

He did not say he would not confiscate arms he did say a marine obeys his orders! and he did say they can refuse orders but the first thing he said was when they are ordered to carry out a mission they carry out that mission!!The bastard would do it in a minute so don't think they wont.

[rickster348]

What about foreign troops?

[concerninged]

@rickster348 those are for us bro, all Americans gotta kill, not just marines!

[mkmason2002]

Didn't it happen during Katrina?

[JasonBrumfeld]

yes it did there are several main media and local reports and videos showing the tyranny federal state and local government put upon the people of new orleans including the assault, kidnapping and theft of property from a 80 year old women in an undamaged and safe community by law enforcement.

[MrSirPhase3]

It's nice to see that there are plenty of military personel who will refuse to confiscate weapons from law abiding Americans. I just hope those Patriots outnumber those who will follow unlawful orders even after a disaster such as Katrina, where weapons were taken by force by military and police from law abiding Americans.

[conservativegrunt]

I'm a retired Marine. I was a Sergeant assigned to the 4th Marine Division, an Infantry Reserve Unit based in New Orleans in 1980. Marines are sworn to uphold the US Constitution and are within their right to refuse an unlawful order. I would have stood by my oath to uphold the Constitution and refused to confiscate personal weapons during Katrina.

[MJND1990]

Isn't it the Marines who have the saying "Death before dishonor."? I don't believe our armed forces would violate the Constitution.

BTW, thank you for serving and defending our country.

[hollywoodnight]

British were sent to Lexington to confiscate guns and started the war for independence.

[imlegalized]

the marine said it himself. they can refuse orders from the pres. oboma wants marshall law because the marines would prob refuse to take the orders so they make marshal law instead

[buddybleau]

They already know that they would have a big problem trying to confiscate guns. Instead, they will make the price of ammunition so expensive, you won't be able to use your guns for lack of ammo.

[jazapp73]

why after katrina did they take peoples guns who were defending their own house? what about the right to bare arms?

Did this not include marshal law?

[mahnameiswin]

Marines obey the constitution, not the president, nor any officer.

[hootchy]

My brother-in-law, when I asked him about whether he as a national guard soldier would participate in confiscation of guns from American citizens said, "I will follow my orders." Sadly, I think this is what is drilled into our military. Obey orders, and don't question whether its right or wrong. We had better get control of this issue befoe its too late.

[Goldor2005]

That ant how it is, most of us will question orders, fact is we do all the time, every one in my old unit would actually take there training and equipment and do there duty, what they Swore to do. "that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same"

[clearlyme2u]

Marines and all Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen have a RESPONSIBILITY to refuse unlawful orders.

It is in their oath to PROTECT and DEFEND the Constitution of The United States of America.

That inculdes ALL amendments including the 2nd-4th & 5th just to name a few.

Marine, You had better uphold your oath!

[rrhynes]

Fuck you and your mission. You violate my rights and I'll violate yours. No motherfucker better ever come to my house wanting my guns. Unless they want them barrel blazing first.

[secretchristian]

rrhynes (4 weeks ago)

They did it already.

Most of these soldiers will buckle under a threat of disciplinary actions.

Of course, they will take your guns. He didn't say he would not do it. He just said Marines ( instead of saying as a marine, I ) have the right to refuse an unlawful order. Which Marines is he talking about? Himself? Something frightens him. It keeps him from speaking strongly for the Constitution.

There is your protection people - It is weak.

[MyaHolburnz]

Of course he would. He murdered innocent Muslims in Iraq, why wouldn't he take your guns? See I don't get to wet in the drawers over the idea of control. The day the government comes to take the guns, is the day you use them. It will also be the last day of my life, but it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees like right wingers do.

[camaroiroc85350]

YEAH, Notice how this guy pauses when the interviewer asks "what if it violates the constitution"? they would do whatever their precious military tells them to do, a buncha brainwashed zombies!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mikevdog]

You take an oath to obey the President and the officers appointed over you. This doea not extend to unlawfull orders as the Marine rightly stated. There must be discipline in the chain of command or there would hbe chaos. The military is not "precious" but does defend our precious rights.

[JasonBrumfeld]

I took that oath it is very clear, and the oath is even written in the constitution , you DO NOT swear an oath to the President , like Hitler made his people do, you do not swear an oath to the nation, you swear an oath to the Constitution.

"I, Jason do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the united States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. So help me God."

[Mikevdog]

@JasonBrumfeld Roger that. A soldier is under no obligation to obey an unlawful order.

[redden711]

What about a weakening to worthless dollar---martial law--- social decay, then what about carrying out this order? This would be the most critical time for you to have the means to protect yourself...foreign or domestic.

[Nerdlord12]

I asked my teacher who's in the National Guard if he'd ever confiscate guns, and he literally laughed.

"That would be neither ethical or Constitutional," he said.

[wilma789a]

Nead:

But yet it was proven that they would. (Katrina) Would you expect him to say yes?

[reprahdm]

You know that the Facist Democratic Nazi Party will change the law only hours before the onslot...they will meraculously get the votes needed and It will be law...then what will the marines do???? This is not good..not good at all...

[hdnguyen1911]

Im a Marine hell no!!! You can take it from my cold dead hands.

[wilma789a]

hdn: They won't have to. The dems-anti gun crownd will just tax it and regulate the use/ownership//transport etc etc until the cost of ownership is too much. Support the NRA-ILA,JPFO,GOA etc. Fight back now!

[concerninged]

@hdnguyen1911 you need to thrash this guy around a bit what the fuck 'hope not in my lifetime' and 'i don't see that happening' yea WHAT IF mofo, you said it "cold dead hands"

[IRSFRAUDEXPOSED]

read the turner diaries it all commin down the military will have to take over the government becouse thay have becouse taken over from within from the zionist. they will only take so mutch BS that isnt right.

[1freedomfighter1]

yup the enemy's are now domestic, fat bankers from the UK, that's who really runs things, they run the federal reserve that is making you guys broke intentionally to. it all goes back to them. and the federal reserve has nothing to do with government, there is no reason why government can not have there own monetary system to kull inflation, and look up fluoride in the water, they are intentionally drugging people, fluoride has been proven to reduce IQ and cause cancer.

[divingfire]

As a senior officer in the Army, I consider gun confiscation in Amerrica an illegal order. I would not comply with, nor would I issue such an order. I would also consider any federal military action against US citizens to be illegal.

[mkmason2002]

@divingfire I hope you're still in service when all hell breaks loose!

Blessings! Thank you for serving.

[Charonveritas]

@divingfire Thank you.

[3051michael1]

@divingfire your a good man

[xpat73]

@divingfire no doubt you don't consider the invasion of Iraq an illegal order.

[rosco1776]

That's why there are foreign soldiers on our soil which is also a violation of our constitution.

watch?v=bNKMlhj4ARY

[HellHammerX]

I'm afraid you are quite wrong my friend. The American people were underestimated by the British and once again history will repeat itself. I know lots of military folk who will defect from the military to join the militias, because it is unconstitutional to confiscate our guns

[downpeta]

Has anyone heard that the confiscation of weapons will be done by foreign troops already training on American soil? Whoever it may be, I have a little surprise for them if they try to take my toys.

[KaijuBill]

Notice his very first reaction is to say, "Yes, we'll obey an order." It has to be pointed out that it's unconstitutional.

It's funny how we think our military is different and more moral than every other military that was asked to break the law. You know, cause they're our boys. Bias, anyone? They'll do it if ordered, and they'll kill you or torture you if you resist.

[hammondscot]

its not the military we need to look out for its BLACKWATER and the like that need to be looked at in all of this

[EverHurt]

actually blackwater has been instrumental in training civilians in the use of firearms and assisting people to obtain CCW permits.

[KiffenRoor]

yeah right. They took Guns during Katrina and they will try to take more down the line.

[Alexandra22773]

You can't protect the Constitution and carry out unconstitutional orders. Period.

Sadly, they'll probably be brainwashed into looking upon true patriots as "insurgents."

[Tomdiana]

I remember when I joined the navy I swore an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION! That would not be a lawful order to take guns.

[Xmokko]

you can't refuse it if it is passed. it was nice of him to take the time to talk anyway.

[HellHammerX]

Yes we can refuse it too

[Liberty4Ever]

A Marine has the "right" to refuse to obey an unlawful order? A Marine has the RESPONSIBILITY to refuse an unlawful order, particularly an unconstitutional order. A Marine has a DUTY or an OBLIGATION to refuse an unconstitutional order. They swear to uphold our Constitution. I hope they live by that oath, but the oath occurs during the swearing in ceremony and the training to obey orders is consistently reinforced throughout the following years until it's a reflex.

[mjg19999]

I agree the RESPONSIBILITY is not just the marines but POLICE and so fourth, all military and civilian. Our country would not be what it is today if it was not for the Constitution. If they decide to follow that order they will be fired upon, and that is where I stand. I am ex navy and it is my duty to protect the contstituion

[dualisticnature]

I don't think the American troops are the ones that would be used to confiscate guns. It could likely be foreign troops disguised as American troops, or the UN or whatever, but with so many guns in the USA, they couldn't possibly deploy enough troops without getting wiped out. They will have to pry a gun from my cold dead hands.

[HellHammerX]

Me too brother, I am not afraid of death, especially for a cause such as this

[TexasStraightShooter]

Anyone who obeys an ILLEGAL ORDER is committing a CRIME, and that person would be a CRIMINAL.

ANY CRIMINAL CAUGHT COMMITTING A CRIMINAL ACT MIGHT BE SHOT BY THE CRIME VICTIM!!!!!

[SpechLGoDDeSS]

if it is then the people who were at loss for their arms or forced to give them up after the hurricanes should file a class action suit against our government. Because you can because your rights were infringed upon due to the unlawful order made to collect the arms.

DONT PEOPLE AKA NATURAL BORN CITIZENS OF AMERICA AKA THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA KNOW THEIR RIGHTS ANYMORE????

[SpechLGoDDeSS]

The Second Amendment, as passed by the House and Senate, reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The original and copies distributed to the states, and then ratified by them, had different capitalization and punctuation:

" A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. "

[SpechLGoDDeSS]

the taking of our arms or guns infringes upon the civil rights of all citizens protected by the 2nd amendment of the bill of rights aka the first 10 amendments in the constitution.

[TheVampirella]

"Marines have the right to refuse an unlawful order."

NO, THEY HAVE A DUTY TO REFUSE AN UNLAWFUL ORDER!!!

When I joined the Army my oath was to defend the Constitution against ALL ENEMIES, foreign and domestic.

The soldiers who participated in the seizing of firearms after Katrina should all face charges as far as I am concerned. The officers who ordered it should be in prison right now.

[bahnscott]

I see it happening.

[batgirl791]

the sad thing is that i've seen videos of a training scenario with civilians yelling out "you are violating the constitution" and the soldiers did not stop what they are doing. so they are training them to ignore pleas and I bet they will use UN forces to repel any civilian demonstrations.