i know this is jacked up but deathrow inmates shouldnt donate or should it be a mandate. this now opens a market for organs sounds familiar china and india. sounds like a great idea but we are human and have made bad decisions in the past this isnt a good one you open a market maybe a judgement either or may be decided by blood type
Interesting proposal said here... It'll end their lifes without pain and serve the society...
Unlike zwatcher, I don't think it should be mandatory to remove an extra organ of someone... (maybe only bone marrow, because it could grow back again)
The only drawback I can see from using a criminal's organs would be their damage. How many criminals out there have used hard drugs or destroyed their bodies with alcohol?
I would say that these organs will be examined to ensure that there isn't a problem with it. I'm sure we cannot guarantee that every deathrow inmate has flawless organs that can be given away when after death.
Let's not. How about America joins the 20th century and abolishes the death penalty like the rest of the civilized world did decades ago. Too much to ask for Americans to be decent human beings?
This is a baaaaad idea. Just read Larry Niven's The Jigsaw Man or A Gift From Earth. The Chinese are already executing prisoners and selling their organs to foreigners on demand: you make a reservation, buy your plane ticket, and the execution takes place after you arrive so the kidney you are getting is piping hot from the oven.
But doesn't it seem that if we did this then we would be giving organ donation negative connotation.
Like rather then it being a noble thing to have a sticker on your drivers license stating that you are an organ donor, it will be viewed instead as if you are bad then the consequence is that they kill you take your organs. This just seems like a slippery slope waiting to happen.
Of corse if the death row inmates want there organs donated then they should be allowed. Just tread with caution
Very good idea. And while we're at it... all the fat get's wasted. Let us make soap off it. We can give it to other inmates for example. Also once they cremated, let us use their ashes to fertilize the crops. We are wasting these resources now... Granted, not so precious as internal organs but the same idea... These criminals will at least after death contribute to society. /s
... damn I hope that the author of this video was a troll...
People don't realize how execution began. The communities were small. Confining a prisoner was too much of a burden on the working community who had to feed and house him while he just sat there. Execution rid the community of his expense. It was more expedient to just kill him. Now we can afford to confine him for life, yet we still execute when it doesn't prevent violent crimes. Life imprisonment w/o parole is much more serious! When you're locked up knowing you'll never leave is pure hell!
Following the "Mayan Protocol" of harvesting organs from the condemned violates the physicians oath to "Do No Harm". There are also religious beliefs which state a person may not go to heaven or and afterlife without all his body parts. Morally, this is unsound as it reduces a person to being only the sum of his parts. He ceases to be human anymore and instead becomes translated into anatomical capital. This is morally and philosophically repugnant.
amazing how far this has gotten from the original point "letting death row inmates who WANT TO DONATE THEIR organs, do so"
yes i know i helped derail the point, MY point is that prison is an EPIC FAIL and we need ssome kind of change to make it work because as is it is a crime refinery where little criminals become BIG criminals
1. its the best way to kill a killer. by making him feel the pain he's dealt hundreds.
2. making this waste of space useful to society by harvesting his organs
3. its like raising cattle, if you're a crazy death row inmate then we harvest your organs.
now the only thing that is a weird thought is when someone does use their organs, how weird will it be to say you have a convicted murderers heart as your own?
Yes, I would be saying that, because I'm considering what this actually means for all of the innocent people who have ever been wrongly convicted of a crime. Have you made this consideration?
@CarlaGlade I'm missing your logic. Being innocent and ending up getting executed is no joke, that sucks massive dick. But they might as well save someone else. I hope no one I know ends up on death row also, but they should donate their organs to save someone else's life if possible.
let me ask you this, if you knew you were going to die and there was nothing you could do to prevent it, wouldn't you want to at least give the gift of live to someone else?
I agree with deathrow inmates donating their organs.. But think about it. Wouldn't judges be pressured into putting more people on deathrow? Tbh.. Anyone who kills someone should be on deathrow. Eye for an eye. Then that person who killed someone can give life by donating their organs. It's that Simple. <3
Since there are about fifty executions a year or so, I just don't want this to be thought of as a panacea. And, of course, since the libs want to do away with capital punishment, the argument might be moot even though the vast majority of Americans are in favor of it.
Wow, I don't think even the most broad minded individuals would have even considered such a thing. This concept really needs to be taken into practice, think of all the human life we could save. But, you know us Americans (and sorry if this is in bad taste) we hate to recycle.
I hope you're joking, that's fucking ridiculous. Save your frankenstein shit for the crazy house. How bout if you get a speeding ticket you lose an organ too..right?! Wrong, fuck that.
we have a major shortage of viable organs and an overabundance of lead footed road hogs.
it seems like a solution waiting to happen.
do you have any idea how man good people die each year because they are on a long list for a donor organ and there are not enough organs to fill that list?
how many mothers, fathers, sons, daughters DIE because there are not enough organs?
meanwhile criminals go to prison and pump iron, coming out bigger, stronger, meaner
@zwatcher Following you it would be also just right to cut a thieves hand off. Hand transplantation is possible. Maybe america could adopt the sharia as well...
Congrats for the stupidest idea i found yet on YouTube. People like you are willingly bringing the civil society back to the middle ages.
@zwatcher fool you want to lose your lungs and some bones for a fight somebody attacked you and you accidently break his nose leg arm whatever you go to jail and you get bones taken out of you fool i think thats very very possible in your stupid country like america your country has zero thinking
@mellowmark1 If we did that our nation would fall apart even more then it already does. The amount of money put into prisons is enormous. Paying for washing of their clothes, new clothes, pillows, pillow cases, bed mattresses, bed sheets, food, electricity, water, Tvs, work out equipment, and any other form of entertainment they might have. It all costs big bucks and prisons in america are overflowing. Who wants to pay for a killers living expenses through tax dollars? No one, kill the bastards.
@mellowmark1 Death sentences are given to those who would otherwise have life sentences. So you're telling me a lethal injection costs more than that persons entire life costs?
It is a very bad idea. Our organs are also like memory banks. If the death row inmates are truly guilty, then any of their attitudes, likes and dislikes can be transferred over to the person with the newly attached organs. If that death row inmate had taste for seafood, then that craving can be passed on. If that death row inmate was truly evil, some of that evil can be transferred over and affect the patients in negative ways. It's been on the news before about this same type of thing.
@Visionz2MyInnerEye what the hell are you talking about? Are there any credible evidence that support this? Just saying that you saw it on tv doesnt make it true. The only organ that acts as a memory bank is the brain, and they arent transplating that.
I think it would make a great reality show!! See the heinous crime committed and the penalties associated so others think twice. Then see all of the lives save that are grateful for the donation.
why not use soviet execution method , bullet in your head and then take the corpse apart ? I think vivisection is not something you should have doctors do .
interesting... not something I've ever thought about, a very good point tho. I don't really agree with capital punishment, but if it's not something thats going to change then we should at least make the best of it. Isn't the whole point of killing the killers to make what they did right? It makes much more sense that they save lives in my opinion.
interesting view on things. i personally am not for the death penalty (only in extreme rare cases like if another Hitler showed up) but this idea to use death row inmates who willingly give up their organs is a new one.
is a load of crap and i say that im ok with people not being up for this because it just means that if this is allowed then there will be a better chance for me getting an organ if i ever need one
i am all for this idea, if anything let those who dont like this die or let people know before if it is a criminals organ. i mean at least to me it doesnt really matter at all if the heart i get is from a murderer as long as it is healthy because guess what it is your brain that tells your body what to do and also your brain that gives you morals and tells you oh this is wrong or oh this is alright. the whole superstition that if i get this bad man/woman's organ then i will become a bad person
@sykkocan I honestly don't see this as a good idea. The Donating organs is a beautiful idea that can save many lives one like a friend of mine that needed a new liver. But Banning it all together No. Because If someone slaughtered your family raped your little girl how would you feel about that person not getting death in return for what he did?
@sekhmeta13 Would you prefer to be dead instead? Suppose you're lyin on the street suffocating, and you need immediate CPR. Would you rather die than be rescued by a person with bad breath?
Well, technically after you die, you can no longer care, so that's kinda a solution.
@lodevijk no es por su aliento que no quisiera tener un organo de un asesino... si no por su vibra!!! alguna vez has entrado a una carcel... aunq ya no sea una... la vibra q hay en el lugar es pesadisima... y creo que con el organo de un asesino seria igual... al final de todas formas la persona se enfermaria de otra cosa... porq la vibra contaminaria los demas organos...
I think, if given the choice of death by electrocution or lethal injection or organ donation, death row inmates would most likely choose organ donation. This is assuming that the organs are fit for donation, other wise they're screwed. It's strange, but if you think about it they would, in a small weird way, live on through their donated organs. That is some consolation to men and women in their positions.
okay so lets find a multi billion dollar pharmasutical organ distributor company that will set up a clean, green, friendly and expensive anesthesia for every inmate eveyr so hours...
now if i was in the human organ selling bidness this video would def be my bidness plan...
Some people do not wish their bodies to be desecrated upon death. They should have their wish. If someone wants to donate their organs then they should be allowed to do so. Simple.
Hard subject, but I would say that those who are set for execution must have the choice. Its morally wrong to take someones organs without asking. But those people on death row the choice to do some good of their execution is the right way to go.
If we are to condemn a person to death, it should be among the hardest decisions we must make as a society.We should not embrace policies that tip the balance of pros and cons toward a death sentence.Allowing inmates to volunteer for an organ donation program could indeed be beneficial, but we must take care to avoid the moral hazard that would arise from adoption of organ harvesting as standard protocol for all executions, lest we find ourselves making determinations of death that much easier.
Absolutely NOT! Nature did not bless you with a full set of functioning organs, or you screwed them up through abuse. Harvesting organs is not right. Just because we can, does not means we should, and this procedure CAN and WILL be abused by greedy people.
i get the point of where this is geting at, but this is pretty much forced apon them then, which is pathetic
were all fine with that cuz its not our organs, and when it is, what do we do? ur not gonna hessitate right, im sure people are allowed to donate thier organ esp thoese on deathrow, but if they choose not to then what, the vid sounds like YES, TAKE IT.
it make sound like its a sacrifice for the greater good, but hey its america, cant we be more civilized here
@WingedSoulies If an inmate is on death row, why should't their organs be sent to people who need them? How many lives can be saved if an executed inmates organs are taken without permission. Their rights were already forfeited when they, most likely, murdered someone. Letting the organs die off with the inmate is a great loss and not a "sacrifice". You would sacrifice the lives of the people who need the organ transplants to live to respect the wishes of someone who is being executed.
This one goes out to the perpetrators of the death penalty. There IS in fact a very efficient and 'humane' way to kill a human by preserving his/her organs in perfect shape for transplantation. That is, with pure nitrogen. It's totally painless and non-distressing unlike all the other currently practised methods. If you agree on being an organ donor it shouldn't matter which way you die as long as your organs are still useable to save other lives.
Would you rather someone who died not guilty and just let the body parts go to waste? This person isnt saying that they're all guilty and they all deserve to die, just hat maybe some people can live. Chill guys
Makes sense to me. Hopefully we'll even get more states giving out the death penalty. The more assholes we kill, the more nice peoples lives we can save.
they say innocent before proven guilty, well not all trails are right, ill fram eu all and u can die, and u know what ill be luaghin and we humans dink were al smart and dominate all, were all the same low life beings, we al dont carea bout each other, if i told u somone is gonna die on ur block u wont be scared, but when i say theres gonna be an earthquake in haiti ,everyone freaks out,
people arnt impressed with death,just numbers, we all dink we know judgement,were not gods
I read a short story about this once. What happens is that whenever someone is executed they harvest all of their organs, and one man is trying to escape from jail after being put on death row. In the end it's revealed that his crime was running 4 redlights. Executing every single person that commits a crime lets everyone else live exceedingly long lives.
eh i dont think there are enough people executed each year for me to care whether or not theyre able to donate their organs. efforts are probably better spent convincing all those paranoid people to change their minds and become donors.
it costs more money to execute prisoners than to keep them alive for 20 years on simple meals...we should look into this but im guessing not all of their organs would be valuable as many of them are smokers and besides who would want the heart of a murderer?
I agree to harvest the organs on these inmates. The only thing that i hope doesnt happen is that due process is rushed on some inmate that has a rare blood type so little billy or susie can live.
So, basically, we should keep the death penalty around so that we can harvest the organs of these inmates for the betterment of society. Do you not realize the brutalizing effect the death penalty has on ALL of society? If we value life so much as a culture, then we shouldn't kill people, even murderers, because, guess what that makes us? When I read the title of this video, I thought it was a Swiftian work of irony. Nope.
I see where you are coming from comletely but the point is that our society, as horrible as this might seem, will not stop the death penalty. I'm pretty sure if we were in better care they wouldn't kill anybody or have a death penalty but they do. All this video is saying is that if they are going to keep the death penalty then they should at least put it to good use, other than what they believe to be good which is killing these inmates.
People like you amuse me, Andrew. You are reactionary, ill-informed, and woefully anachronistic. Do you know how many people, on average we execute every year? No? 22. So, how many rapists and murderers is that? 22. And if you imagine for a moment that these are the most deserving criminals, you're wrong. They are the poor, usually black southerners who can't afford a lawyer and are living in the most poorly educated and systemically violent part of the country.
Oh because they fucked up i should have my hard earned money going towards letting them live? Lol my dad grew up a poor farm boy and he didnt run out and kill someone he supports a family of 5 kids, he was smart but he stayed in school and went to college, with no money people make up all these damn excuses and i dont care cause you can always find a way, tough shit.
Perhaps you should look up your own facts, or at least not claim them to be facts.
Boarding- It cost 40,000-50,000 a year, resulting in a median of $740,000 per lifetime prisoner. While a Death penalty cost about $70,000 - $75,000 per year for an average of 11 years.
Court- It cost $600,000 to $1.6 million for a Death Penalty trial to go through. However, even on life in prison gets hearings and they cost about $15,000-$50,000 per hearing.
The new york department of corrections has estimated that implementing the death penalty would cost the state 118 million dollars annually. In texas, the state with the most executions, a death penalty TRIAL costs 2.3 million dollars (thats for every trial) which is 3 times the cost of imprisoning someone in a high security cell for 40 years.
Even if you ignore the costs, i don't see how anyone can say it is ok TO KILL A PERSON (who may or may not even be guilty btw)
2. A prisoner would have no reason to not take every appeal, so it is fair to use the highest cost, even if they do not, a death penalty trial without appeals costs on average 6x more than a non death penalty one
3. I'm not saying supporting execution supports murder, I'm saying that: A. It is hypocritical to kill someone in retribution for them killing someone, and B. since 1973, 139 people have been exonerated after death penalty convictions
and god knows how many innocent people executed. regardless of your opinion on the deaht penalty, it is ludicrous to say that there is justification for execution of innocent people.
You said it yourself: your dad grew up on a farm, that's very different life (one not surrounded by constant fear and violence) from that of the inner city impoverished. Also, so that in the future, you sound like less of an ignoramus, you should realize that you pay far more to prosecute a death penalty case than to just keep the prisoner in jail.
...but I want them to feel pain...
MsZooper 1 year ago
i know this is jacked up but deathrow inmates shouldnt donate or should it be a mandate. this now opens a market for organs sounds familiar china and india. sounds like a great idea but we are human and have made bad decisions in the past this isnt a good one you open a market maybe a judgement either or may be decided by blood type
ranger082469 1 year ago
@ranger082469 are you saying chinese and indian people aren't human ?
derickhaywood 1 year ago
@derickhaywood where in my response indicated they wernt human
ranger082469 1 year ago
Interesting proposal said here... It'll end their lifes without pain and serve the society...
Unlike zwatcher, I don't think it should be mandatory to remove an extra organ of someone... (maybe only bone marrow, because it could grow back again)
Aff01000001 1 year ago
The only drawback I can see from using a criminal's organs would be their damage. How many criminals out there have used hard drugs or destroyed their bodies with alcohol?
Chimokko 1 year ago
@Chimokko
This is a very good observation.
I would say that these organs will be examined to ensure that there isn't a problem with it. I'm sure we cannot guarantee that every deathrow inmate has flawless organs that can be given away when after death.
blaqwingz 1 year ago
Why waste those delicious organs?
jpatton1989 1 year ago
Why would you want an organ from an inmate? Good idea but seriously
kiananoelle 1 year ago
SICK
formerutuber 1 year ago
Why harvest the organs of inmates wen we can learn how to clone the organs themselves? Or how about we harvest the organs of anyone who dies?
Emanresu56 1 year ago
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Emanresu56 1 year ago
Or, just stop killing prisoners, But encourage everyone to become organ donors.
That would lead to the most people not being dead.
BubbleGumNipples 1 year ago
THIRTY EIGHT STATES.
jdotglenn 1 year ago
Let's not. How about America joins the 20th century and abolishes the death penalty like the rest of the civilized world did decades ago. Too much to ask for Americans to be decent human beings?
sentstuff05 1 year ago 2
This is a baaaaad idea. Just read Larry Niven's The Jigsaw Man or A Gift From Earth. The Chinese are already executing prisoners and selling their organs to foreigners on demand: you make a reservation, buy your plane ticket, and the execution takes place after you arrive so the kidney you are getting is piping hot from the oven.
mitchellglaser 1 year ago 3
But doesn't it seem that if we did this then we would be giving organ donation negative connotation.
Like rather then it being a noble thing to have a sticker on your drivers license stating that you are an organ donor, it will be viewed instead as if you are bad then the consequence is that they kill you take your organs. This just seems like a slippery slope waiting to happen.
Of corse if the death row inmates want there organs donated then they should be allowed. Just tread with caution
zander4am 1 year ago
Very good idea. And while we're at it... all the fat get's wasted. Let us make soap off it. We can give it to other inmates for example. Also once they cremated, let us use their ashes to fertilize the crops. We are wasting these resources now... Granted, not so precious as internal organs but the same idea... These criminals will at least after death contribute to society. /s
... damn I hope that the author of this video was a troll...
cmarivs 1 year ago
@cmarivs You make no valid argument. You're just bitching.
maestbobo 1 year ago
You're trolling right?
crackorjackzors 1 year ago
Everyone knows that if you receive a serial killer's organs you will become a serial killer too!
mik7ease 1 year ago
How about ending the death penalty?
matoushka 1 year ago 2
People don't realize how execution began. The communities were small. Confining a prisoner was too much of a burden on the working community who had to feed and house him while he just sat there. Execution rid the community of his expense. It was more expedient to just kill him. Now we can afford to confine him for life, yet we still execute when it doesn't prevent violent crimes. Life imprisonment w/o parole is much more serious! When you're locked up knowing you'll never leave is pure hell!
GREGHIGGS1 1 year ago
Following the "Mayan Protocol" of harvesting organs from the condemned violates the physicians oath to "Do No Harm". There are also religious beliefs which state a person may not go to heaven or and afterlife without all his body parts. Morally, this is unsound as it reduces a person to being only the sum of his parts. He ceases to be human anymore and instead becomes translated into anatomical capital. This is morally and philosophically repugnant.
GREGHIGGS1 1 year ago
@GREGHIGGS1
amazing how far this has gotten from the original point "letting death row inmates who WANT TO DONATE THEIR organs, do so"
yes i know i helped derail the point, MY point is that prison is an EPIC FAIL and we need ssome kind of change to make it work because as is it is a crime refinery where little criminals become BIG criminals
zwatcher 1 year ago
@Bunechunk
and how many of those speeders cause accidents? fatal accidents that more often then not they themselves walk away from unharmed?
how many rapists, wife beaters, gang bangers and thieves get out of prison and go right back to the same or worse criminal behavior?
obviously the threat of jail time doesn't impress them, lets see if being rendered for parts will.
and even if it doesn't, they will still be saving countless lives.
zwatcher 1 year ago
i totally agree with this!
1. its the best way to kill a killer. by making him feel the pain he's dealt hundreds.
2. making this waste of space useful to society by harvesting his organs
3. its like raising cattle, if you're a crazy death row inmate then we harvest your organs.
now the only thing that is a weird thought is when someone does use their organs, how weird will it be to say you have a convicted murderers heart as your own?
curtrocks17 1 year ago
I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE HAIR TRANSPLANT BRO
I TOLD YOU DOG!!
NigerianArchitect 1 year ago
im sorry but y isnt this being done yet?
wika57 1 year ago
Yes, I would be saying that, because I'm considering what this actually means for all of the innocent people who have ever been wrongly convicted of a crime. Have you made this consideration?
CarlaGlade 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade well he did say if they donated it
wika57 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade If you're innocent but going to be executed anyway you might as well donate your organs.
Prolite959 1 year ago
@Prolite959 Sorry, I don't agree. That would be horrible. I hope no one you know ends up on death row.
CarlaGlade 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade I'm missing your logic. Being innocent and ending up getting executed is no joke, that sucks massive dick. But they might as well save someone else. I hope no one I know ends up on death row also, but they should donate their organs to save someone else's life if possible.
Prolite959 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade
let me ask you this, if you knew you were going to die and there was nothing you could do to prevent it, wouldn't you want to at least give the gift of live to someone else?
zwatcher 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade
good point, which is why the prosecution, judge and jury should be held responsible for these kinds of mistakes
if the prosecuting attorney knew HIS organs were on the line for withholding evidence to get a conviction, maybe he wouldn't risk it.
zwatcher 1 year ago
I agree with deathrow inmates donating their organs.. But think about it. Wouldn't judges be pressured into putting more people on deathrow? Tbh.. Anyone who kills someone should be on deathrow. Eye for an eye. Then that person who killed someone can give life by donating their organs. It's that Simple. <3
xXWraithSoldierXx 1 year ago
@xXWraithSoldierXx
there is already pressure to convict
the judge and prosecuting attorney are both dependent on a high conviction rate to advance in their careers
zwatcher 1 year ago
This will only lead to more people being executed on death row!!! This is wrong!!!
CarlaGlade 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade
You wouldn't be saying that if you one of your loved ones was murder by some sick fuck.
siththomas 1 year ago
@CarlaGlade
not doing it leads to innocent people dying on organ recipient row from a shortage of organs.
zwatcher 1 year ago
Since there are about fifty executions a year or so, I just don't want this to be thought of as a panacea. And, of course, since the libs want to do away with capital punishment, the argument might be moot even though the vast majority of Americans are in favor of it.
saxonjf 1 year ago
Wow, I don't think even the most broad minded individuals would have even considered such a thing. This concept really needs to be taken into practice, think of all the human life we could save. But, you know us Americans (and sorry if this is in bad taste) we hate to recycle.
wgregory10 1 year ago
WOW CREAPY... THEN EVERY INMATE WOULD BE KILL THOUGH LOL...
govtiscool 1 year ago
@govtiscool You sound like the dumbest person that could ever exist.
cowardlylion819 1 year ago 3
why just death row inmates, lets make organ donation a punishment for other non lethal crimes (extra organs only of course)
20 years to life PLUS lose a kidney
10 years AND a cornea
2nd time for beating your wife half to death, 5 years AND a lung (see if you have the air to do that a 3rd time)
3 years jail, 5 probation AND some bone marrow.
these scum bags are taking from society, let's make them give back
zwatcher 1 year ago 11
@zwatcher just laughed so hard. i love it. mwuhahahah.
illemE35 1 year ago
@zwatcher
I hope you're joking, that's fucking ridiculous. Save your frankenstein shit for the crazy house. How bout if you get a speeding ticket you lose an organ too..right?! Wrong, fuck that.
Bunechunk 1 year ago
@Bunechunk
why should i be joking?
we have a major shortage of viable organs and an overabundance of lead footed road hogs.
it seems like a solution waiting to happen.
do you have any idea how man good people die each year because they are on a long list for a donor organ and there are not enough organs to fill that list?
how many mothers, fathers, sons, daughters DIE because there are not enough organs?
meanwhile criminals go to prison and pump iron, coming out bigger, stronger, meaner
zwatcher 1 year ago
@zwatcher Following you it would be also just right to cut a thieves hand off. Hand transplantation is possible. Maybe america could adopt the sharia as well...
Congrats for the stupidest idea i found yet on YouTube. People like you are willingly bringing the civil society back to the middle ages.
Ah4b 1 year ago
@zwatcher its opinions like this that make me wonder if this is really such a good idea.
Skurvy2k 1 year ago
@zwatcher fool you want to lose your lungs and some bones for a fight somebody attacked you and you accidently break his nose leg arm whatever you go to jail and you get bones taken out of you fool i think thats very very possible in your stupid country like america your country has zero thinking
Colonel565 1 year ago
@zwatcher Uneducated immature people like you are harms to well thought out solutions like this
Cliffordburleson 1 year ago
Perhaps we should stop killing people altogether. Just a thought.
mellowmark1 1 year ago
@mellowmark1 If we did that our nation would fall apart even more then it already does. The amount of money put into prisons is enormous. Paying for washing of their clothes, new clothes, pillows, pillow cases, bed mattresses, bed sheets, food, electricity, water, Tvs, work out equipment, and any other form of entertainment they might have. It all costs big bucks and prisons in america are overflowing. Who wants to pay for a killers living expenses through tax dollars? No one, kill the bastards.
demonblooduchiha 1 year ago
@demonblooduchiha
The financial costs to taxpayers of capital punishment is several times that of keeping someone in prison for life
mellowmark1 1 year ago
@mellowmark1 Death sentences are given to those who would otherwise have life sentences. So you're telling me a lethal injection costs more than that persons entire life costs?
demonblooduchiha 1 year ago
@demonblooduchiha
Yes, it's a fact it costs more to kill a prisoner than house him for life. Don't take my word for it though, do your own research.
mellowmark1 1 year ago
@demonblooduchiha
this is why prisons are so jacked up anyway "Tvs, work out equipment, and any other form of entertainment they might have"
WTF are we providing them with tv's, work out equipment and other entertainment for?
isn't the idea of prison to punish the criminal for their misdeeds?
zwatcher 1 year ago
@mellowmark1
tell that to the murderers on death row
zwatcher 1 year ago
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@zwatcher
Yeah, I'll get on that.
mellowmark1 1 year ago
@mellowmark1
i'm guessing you and yours have never been the victim of a violent crime.
now used to be i'd agree with you but frankly many of the people coming out of prison are repeat offenders.
how many times do you beat your gf to death before we say enough?
how many vicious, hardened career criminals are going to by revolving doored in our faces.
if the batman had killed the joker the first time he escaped arkham asylum barbara gordon would be walking and thousands more would be alive.
zwatcher 1 year ago
@mellowmark1
i'm guessing you and yours have never been the victim of a violent crime.
now used to be i'd agree with you but frankly many of the people coming out of prison are repeat offenders.
how many times do you beat your gf to death before we say enough?
how many vicious, hardened career criminals are going to by revolving door-ed in our faces.
if the batman had killed the joker the first time he escaped arkham asylum Barbara Gordon would be walking and thousands more would be alive.
zwatcher 1 year ago
It is a very bad idea. Our organs are also like memory banks. If the death row inmates are truly guilty, then any of their attitudes, likes and dislikes can be transferred over to the person with the newly attached organs. If that death row inmate had taste for seafood, then that craving can be passed on. If that death row inmate was truly evil, some of that evil can be transferred over and affect the patients in negative ways. It's been on the news before about this same type of thing.
Visionz2MyInnerEye 1 year ago
@Visionz2MyInnerEye what the hell are you talking about? Are there any credible evidence that support this? Just saying that you saw it on tv doesnt make it true. The only organ that acts as a memory bank is the brain, and they arent transplating that.
w0mbatina 1 year ago
@Visionz2MyInnerEye
some one's been watching to many roger corman movies!
zwatcher 1 year ago
@Visionz2MyInnerEye NONSENSE!
FreeeeS 1 year ago
@Visionz2MyInnerEye Are you serious? What news was this?
Birdman283 1 year ago
please just abolish death sentences alltogether!
jnfeehan 1 year ago
wow , i love you stumbleupon , this is pretty deep stuff
tjmessinger 1 year ago
I think it would make a great reality show!! See the heinous crime committed and the penalties associated so others think twice. Then see all of the lives save that are grateful for the donation.
tucsonpersonified 1 year ago
why not use soviet execution method , bullet in your head and then take the corpse apart ? I think vivisection is not something you should have doctors do .
sewagedweller 1 year ago
interesting... not something I've ever thought about, a very good point tho. I don't really agree with capital punishment, but if it's not something thats going to change then we should at least make the best of it. Isn't the whole point of killing the killers to make what they did right? It makes much more sense that they save lives in my opinion.
3rdstopontheshortbus 1 year ago
interesting view on things. i personally am not for the death penalty (only in extreme rare cases like if another Hitler showed up) but this idea to use death row inmates who willingly give up their organs is a new one.
BeatlesLuver32 1 year ago
We've all seen Apocalypto - organ donation can be fun!!
Adlasyn 1 year ago
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Look, lets take the organs and THEN afterward hang, electrocute, shoot or lethally inject to your hearts content! ;-)
jhhayden 1 year ago
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jhhayden 1 year ago
Look, lets take the organs and THEN afterward hang, electrocute, shoot or lethally inject to your hearts content! ;-)
jhhayden 1 year ago
Look, lets take the organs and THEN afterward hang, electrocute, shoot or lethally inject to your hearts content! ;-)
jhhayden 1 year ago
Look, lets take the organs and THEN afterward hang, electrocute, shoot or lethally inject to your hearts content! ;-)
jhhayden 1 year ago
is a load of crap and i say that im ok with people not being up for this because it just means that if this is allowed then there will be a better chance for me getting an organ if i ever need one
lefty614234 1 year ago
i am all for this idea, if anything let those who dont like this die or let people know before if it is a criminals organ. i mean at least to me it doesnt really matter at all if the heart i get is from a murderer as long as it is healthy because guess what it is your brain that tells your body what to do and also your brain that gives you morals and tells you oh this is wrong or oh this is alright. the whole superstition that if i get this bad man/woman's organ then i will become a bad person
lefty614234 1 year ago
lets ban death punishment first maybe.
sykkocan 1 year ago
@sykkocan I honestly don't see this as a good idea. The Donating organs is a beautiful idea that can save many lives one like a friend of mine that needed a new liver. But Banning it all together No. Because If someone slaughtered your family raped your little girl how would you feel about that person not getting death in return for what he did?
graveyardbutterfly 1 year ago
mine too, stumble upon rocks!
gabinobarreda 1 year ago
very good idea
Splooshiba 1 year ago
I was eating a bowl of chili when I StumbledUpon this. Well...good-bye chili.
arwentheelf02 1 year ago
I like the idea!!!
conhoe1 1 year ago
its a shame that Doctors vow to never kill someone, or something like that, so won't perform surgery that will end in that persons life
06stephend 1 year ago
Very interesting. Stumbled from Mordor.
Metaladdict68 1 year ago
Fuck Capital punishment
MrDcukduck 1 year ago
This sounds very Jonathon Swift-ish
EAT46 1 year ago
I would't want a murderer heart or any organ inside me... :S
But I like the animation... ;)
sekhmeta13 1 year ago
@sekhmeta13 Would you prefer to be dead instead? Suppose you're lyin on the street suffocating, and you need immediate CPR. Would you rather die than be rescued by a person with bad breath?
Well, technically after you die, you can no longer care, so that's kinda a solution.
lodevijk 1 year ago
@lodevijk no es por su aliento que no quisiera tener un organo de un asesino... si no por su vibra!!! alguna vez has entrado a una carcel... aunq ya no sea una... la vibra q hay en el lugar es pesadisima... y creo que con el organo de un asesino seria igual... al final de todas formas la persona se enfermaria de otra cosa... porq la vibra contaminaria los demas organos...
sekhmeta13 1 year ago
@lodevijk and... I understand the idea... and respect it... but in my case... yes... I rather die... just my opinion...
I say Why... only that in spanish...
So if you want a murderer organ... you can have it... that's your desition...
sekhmeta13 1 year ago
@sekhmeta13 would you rather have a pig heart? because that's what commonly is used.
yeshli2nuts 1 year ago
or maybe we shouldn't consider capital punishment at all. death penalty is inhumane and dangerous
NicoletoZ 1 year ago
I think, if given the choice of death by electrocution or lethal injection or organ donation, death row inmates would most likely choose organ donation. This is assuming that the organs are fit for donation, other wise they're screwed. It's strange, but if you think about it they would, in a small weird way, live on through their donated organs. That is some consolation to men and women in their positions.
gregtestagent 1 year ago 4
hell yea, why waste those organs!
mattisthegodofwar 1 year ago 5
so very true.
dxinsider 1 year ago 2
huh.
gotta admit, he makes a good point.
Bloodyidit 1 year ago 2
death penalty is wrong anway imo
zoooooopopo 1 year ago
@zoooooopopo
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
wiseye61 1 year ago
@wiseye61 haha very good. love the big lebowski
zoooooopopo 1 year ago
interesting, real, sad, thought provoking............... as an option..
derecto56 1 year ago 2
my my... stumbleupon brings forth some awesome things...
renegade220 1 year ago 56
@renegade220 true true
geckotwister 1 year ago
Hey, why not? China does it... alot.
duxmtn 1 year ago 2
stumbled upon it
AdventCK 1 year ago 2
okay so lets find a multi billion dollar pharmasutical organ distributor company that will set up a clean, green, friendly and expensive anesthesia for every inmate eveyr so hours...
now if i was in the human organ selling bidness this video would def be my bidness plan...
240SSONLY 1 year ago
Some people do not wish their bodies to be desecrated upon death. They should have their wish. If someone wants to donate their organs then they should be allowed to do so. Simple.
DDowza 1 year ago
@DDowza oh, they are on death row for what exactly? i presume, for desecrating other peoples bodies...
trisnjok 1 year ago
*you're
Laminad18 1 year ago
It does creep me out, but makes a lot of sense non the less.
SingleSpiral 1 year ago
wow that really creeps me out but really its true... o.O
lovebug2431 1 year ago
Hard subject, but I would say that those who are set for execution must have the choice. Its morally wrong to take someones organs without asking. But those people on death row the choice to do some good of their execution is the right way to go.
1carrot 1 year ago
good idea
but
disease and drug use riddle the prison system
pchoiboi 1 year ago
If we are to condemn a person to death, it should be among the hardest decisions we must make as a society.We should not embrace policies that tip the balance of pros and cons toward a death sentence.Allowing inmates to volunteer for an organ donation program could indeed be beneficial, but we must take care to avoid the moral hazard that would arise from adoption of organ harvesting as standard protocol for all executions, lest we find ourselves making determinations of death that much easier.
CognitiveImbias 1 year ago 2
although i do not usoort organ stransplants because of the fact that i am a naturalist this IS a good idea. 100% supportive of it.
utubeismylastresort 1 year ago
Absolutely NOT! Nature did not bless you with a full set of functioning organs, or you screwed them up through abuse. Harvesting organs is not right. Just because we can, does not means we should, and this procedure CAN and WILL be abused by greedy people.
br8d1 1 year ago
@br8d1 Your an Ignorant idiot.
meddy89 1 year ago
@meddy89 And you are a retarded person throwing rocks.
br8d1 1 year ago
i get the point of where this is geting at, but this is pretty much forced apon them then, which is pathetic
were all fine with that cuz its not our organs, and when it is, what do we do? ur not gonna hessitate right, im sure people are allowed to donate thier organ esp thoese on deathrow, but if they choose not to then what, the vid sounds like YES, TAKE IT.
it make sound like its a sacrifice for the greater good, but hey its america, cant we be more civilized here
WingedSoulies 1 year ago
@WingedSoulies If an inmate is on death row, why should't their organs be sent to people who need them? How many lives can be saved if an executed inmates organs are taken without permission. Their rights were already forfeited when they, most likely, murdered someone. Letting the organs die off with the inmate is a great loss and not a "sacrifice". You would sacrifice the lives of the people who need the organ transplants to live to respect the wishes of someone who is being executed.
EricCartman2112 1 year ago
o gee now im the stupidest person in the world, i posted that comment like half a yr ago?
apparently as long and its not ur organs ur fine with it ok
hope u gotta prison ^^ and so u can give me ur organ
WingedSoulies 1 year ago
but the brain or heart of the killer would take over that sick person's body and make them evil!!!
saykarpaudel 1 year ago
@saykarpaudel
EricZamarripa 1 year ago
In this country, you have to make sure they are really guilty first, racism is rampant.
choppedandchanneled 1 year ago
Harvest no organs.what the hell do you need them for anyway and why are you sick people even talking about this issue anyway ?
bethwall 1 year ago
This one goes out to the perpetrators of the death penalty. There IS in fact a very efficient and 'humane' way to kill a human by preserving his/her organs in perfect shape for transplantation. That is, with pure nitrogen. It's totally painless and non-distressing unlike all the other currently practised methods. If you agree on being an organ donor it shouldn't matter which way you die as long as your organs are still useable to save other lives.
R2BCH2 1 year ago
Would you rather someone who died not guilty and just let the body parts go to waste? This person isnt saying that they're all guilty and they all deserve to die, just hat maybe some people can live. Chill guys
TheDianaFPlus 1 year ago
Makes sense to me. Hopefully we'll even get more states giving out the death penalty. The more assholes we kill, the more nice peoples lives we can save.
Woo.
WoodenPotatoes 1 year ago
they say innocent before proven guilty, well not all trails are right, ill fram eu all and u can die, and u know what ill be luaghin and we humans dink were al smart and dominate all, were all the same low life beings, we al dont carea bout each other, if i told u somone is gonna die on ur block u wont be scared, but when i say theres gonna be an earthquake in haiti ,everyone freaks out,
people arnt impressed with death,just numbers, we all dink we know judgement,were not gods
WingedSoulies 1 year ago
@WingedSoulies congratz. i think you are officially the stupidest person on youtube!
EricCartman2112 1 year ago
@EricCartman2112 and holy shit u r stupid
WingedSoulies 1 year ago
@WingedSoulies lol nice comeback. you are proving your intelligence.
half a year ago? actually posted a month ago...
your comment still comment still cracks me up! like, are you 12?!?
EricCartman2112 1 year ago
I read a short story about this once. What happens is that whenever someone is executed they harvest all of their organs, and one man is trying to escape from jail after being put on death row. In the end it's revealed that his crime was running 4 redlights. Executing every single person that commits a crime lets everyone else live exceedingly long lives.
bennyboyg 1 year ago
I wish the bleeding heart people were as passionate about the crime VICTIMS.
LePoseurVegan 1 year ago
what do you mean?
all this video is saying is that there could be some good to come from capital punishment. (i know hard to believe isn't it).
It's not talking about the actual crimes.
xkadie999x 1 year ago
Whoa!
masseyker 1 year ago
Of all of those people who died because that one prisoner didn't give them an organ, how many organs did /they/ give to save another life?
Angraa 1 year ago
This planet does not need anymore people. I say let them die.
Dyo0 1 year ago
hear hear.
Witteplaag 1 year ago
Thank god for the few intelligent and big-picture people in this country.
Skittishfox 1 year ago
anyone who doesn't like this idea is a hippie. great idea
koziolb91 1 year ago
I know! lets kill all the prisoners and sell their organs because we care!!
oh no don't sell them lets make it free.
e...ah and well kill them anyway...because we are civilized. the organs were not useful before right?
it is true because we ALL say so.Right?
ORF111 1 year ago
eh i dont think there are enough people executed each year for me to care whether or not theyre able to donate their organs. efforts are probably better spent convincing all those paranoid people to change their minds and become donors.
riseabove24 1 year ago
Brilliant.
tehninjakid 1 year ago
good shit
jetsrulez23x3 1 year ago
it costs more money to execute prisoners than to keep them alive for 20 years on simple meals...we should look into this but im guessing not all of their organs would be valuable as many of them are smokers and besides who would want the heart of a murderer?
aladiesman 1 year ago
someone's family an friends.
smegron 1 year ago
I agree to harvest the organs on these inmates. The only thing that i hope doesnt happen is that due process is rushed on some inmate that has a rare blood type so little billy or susie can live.
awarningsign1 1 year ago
So, basically, we should keep the death penalty around so that we can harvest the organs of these inmates for the betterment of society. Do you not realize the brutalizing effect the death penalty has on ALL of society? If we value life so much as a culture, then we shouldn't kill people, even murderers, because, guess what that makes us? When I read the title of this video, I thought it was a Swiftian work of irony. Nope.
Skittishfox 1 year ago
I see where you are coming from comletely but the point is that our society, as horrible as this might seem, will not stop the death penalty. I'm pretty sure if we were in better care they wouldn't kill anybody or have a death penalty but they do. All this video is saying is that if they are going to keep the death penalty then they should at least put it to good use, other than what they believe to be good which is killing these inmates.
AverageOutKast 1 year ago
@Skittishfox OH BOOHOO LETS LET THE RAPIST MURDERS AND CHILD MOLESTERS live there days using MY TAX MONEY, yea screw you i dont think so.
andrewPHY 1 year ago 2
People like you amuse me, Andrew. You are reactionary, ill-informed, and woefully anachronistic. Do you know how many people, on average we execute every year? No? 22. So, how many rapists and murderers is that? 22. And if you imagine for a moment that these are the most deserving criminals, you're wrong. They are the poor, usually black southerners who can't afford a lawyer and are living in the most poorly educated and systemically violent part of the country.
Skittishfox 1 year ago
Oh because they fucked up i should have my hard earned money going towards letting them live? Lol my dad grew up a poor farm boy and he didnt run out and kill someone he supports a family of 5 kids, he was smart but he stayed in school and went to college, with no money people make up all these damn excuses and i dont care cause you can always find a way, tough shit.
andrewPHY 1 year ago
Learn your facts, it costs more of your tax dollars to execute a prisoner than keep them locked up for life. Look it up :D
darkblade1600000001 1 year ago
Perhaps you should look up your own facts, or at least not claim them to be facts.
Boarding- It cost 40,000-50,000 a year, resulting in a median of $740,000 per lifetime prisoner. While a Death penalty cost about $70,000 - $75,000 per year for an average of 11 years.
Court- It cost $600,000 to $1.6 million for a Death Penalty trial to go through. However, even on life in prison gets hearings and they cost about $15,000-$50,000 per hearing.
There so it isn't so cut and dry.
digey 1 year ago
The new york department of corrections has estimated that implementing the death penalty would cost the state 118 million dollars annually. In texas, the state with the most executions, a death penalty TRIAL costs 2.3 million dollars (thats for every trial) which is 3 times the cost of imprisoning someone in a high security cell for 40 years.
Even if you ignore the costs, i don't see how anyone can say it is ok TO KILL A PERSON (who may or may not even be guilty btw)
darkblade1600000001 1 year ago
I'm done...
1. You pick the highest end stats, to validate your point. I showed that it can be effective to execute a prisoner.
2. Trials vary in cost, and the 2.3 million is not per TRAIL. It is the total cost assuming that make ever appeal, and they are a high profile case.
3. You attack my morals, trying to make me into some kind of monster, saying that supporting execution supports murder.
So Good Day sir.
digey 1 year ago
1. You fail to produce any data refuting my stats
2. A prisoner would have no reason to not take every appeal, so it is fair to use the highest cost, even if they do not, a death penalty trial without appeals costs on average 6x more than a non death penalty one
3. I'm not saying supporting execution supports murder, I'm saying that: A. It is hypocritical to kill someone in retribution for them killing someone, and B. since 1973, 139 people have been exonerated after death penalty convictions
darkblade1600000001 1 year ago
and god knows how many innocent people executed. regardless of your opinion on the deaht penalty, it is ludicrous to say that there is justification for execution of innocent people.
darkblade1600000001 1 year ago
NO SHIT WHAT IM SAYING IS WHAT THE VIDEO IS SAYING, SHit gimmie a loaded gun and ill do it for real cheap.
andrewPHY 1 year ago
You said it yourself: your dad grew up on a farm, that's very different life (one not surrounded by constant fear and violence) from that of the inner city impoverished. Also, so that in the future, you sound like less of an ignoramus, you should realize that you pay far more to prosecute a death penalty case than to just keep the prisoner in jail.
Skittishfox 1 year ago
Oh stumbling C:
WolfehCoyote 1 year ago 2
Isn't it great to stumble around the net?
Ultimaniacx4 1 year ago 64
@Ultimaniacx4
Why yes, yes it is!
seraphale 1 year ago
i stumbled upon this
tyfars 1 year ago
STUMBLE =P
Nikomarete 1 year ago
CRAP
spookmore 1 year ago
i stumbled and saved (^__^)
i wish that they would do that save so many lives but then again who would want a inmate body part
sassy8girl 1 year ago
me too
tyfars 1 year ago
I find this quite disturbing, and I think it creates the possibility of a worrying culture.
"This guy's organs might save a dosen people"
Does that make his execution more morally justified? Is a prisoner worth more dead than alive?
pre3per 1 year ago
in fact, he is. do you know how much it costs to keep a prisoner alive these days? and these death row inmates have it coming anyways.
iown59 1 year ago