Would have been made a better video if you had addressed some of points for not doing it - even if it means having an ignorant driver's comment on there it makes a much more balanced and encouraging approach.
What about the segregation of bikes and pedestrians? At least cars are more predictable - pedestrians are much harder to predict and can often breach a bike lane without event looking. Something needs to be done to ensure pedestrian safety as well as bike safety.
City of Copenhagen, reports that “A decline in road safety at junctions has undoubtedly taken place after the construction of cycle tracks [separated bike lanes]”.
- City of Copenhagen, Road and Park Department, Denmark.
It is much easier to build a WALL than to build RESPECT. But it does not solve the problem. How do you think that car drivers will respect bicyclists if you keep telling then that bicyclists should not be on the streets???
@zivkovicable yea if i go to the local little skate track i also dont wear a helmed but only if i go to the bigger skateparks because then i go trying some crazy stuff.
All bike lanes everywhere should be physically separated as shown here. It would not take much to alter existing bike lanes to get them physically separated.
This is a great video. The only way to solve this problem is to create more lanes for bikes by reducing the lanes that cars once used, like if there are four lanes for cars, reduce it to two lanes for cars, three lanes for bikes, and make it not cool to drive vehicles which make us lazy and fat anyways, that would encourage us to get tired of driving and get us riding bicycles more worthwhile.
Fantastic! This sort of thing is long overdue here abouts, and much too far removed from the American conscience.
Denmark and the Netherlands have perfected the bicycle lane. The UK took control over banks that had a hand in destroying the world's economy thru nefarious business practices. Canada has an exemplary health care system for its citizens...
If 'Murica is the best country in the world, when, exactly, are we going to catch up with all the nations that we're supposed to be better than?
Good video. As somebody who engages in all different kinds of personal transportation (walking, cycling, and driving), I've learned that having dedicated passageways for distinct modes of transportation (roads, sidewalks, and even bike lanes) is a great idea. Although it happens, it's never a good idea to drive on the sidewalk or walk down a highway. The more protected bike lanes, the fewer incidents of accidents resulting from cyclists in car lanes. It'll just take LOTS of education to succeed.
A bike IS NOT a year-round, all-weather, all occasion mode of transport. Yes, I realize that some nut cases will ride in the snow and in the rain, but you cannot expect everyone to do that. So we are chocking traffic for all, while providing special lanes for some, which they will use only in good weather, only for some occasions.
These trucks are not on the street for fun, they deliver goods which everyone needs, they move our economy, and now they are forced to unload in the middle of street
@dmitriy40 , Cycling IS a year round, all weather, mode of transit. Only exceptions are extreme weather that even motorists give pause about driving in. It's amazing how little it actually takes to keep warm in the winter or dry during a thunderstorm. And for the record I use my bicycles almost entirely for commuting to work or for my shopping. Very rarely do I bicycle just for fun.
@harshbarj It is appropriate for you to respond NOW, when it is freezing outside. As I said above, some nut cases will ride year-round, but those are EXTREME exceptions. You exist in a fantasy bubble if you believe that bikes can be adopted as main mode of transport by large number of New-Yorkers. I'm in the city every day, and never once have I seen a bike lane FULL of bikes. In NYC, bike use is well under 1%, but in many places bike lanes take up to 50% of street space?!?!? ...insane.
@dmitriy40,actually it depends on where you get your figures. The NY-DOT says bicycling is growing FAST. Only the census is trying to say cycling is declining and it says that about a lot of places that simply is not the case.
As for your rant on the cold, just look at Europe and how most people there continue to ride even in winter. It can, no, it WILL work here as well. The automobiles days as king are numbered!
@harshbarj In Coney Island, there are 2 groups of "Polar Bears", who dunk themselves in the Ocean in front of cameras in January (usually January 1, actually). The existence of these groups (and god bless them) does not justify the statement: PEOPLE SWIM IN THE OCEAN IN THE WINTER. Only some do. And millions of public funds should not be used to build special beaches for winter swimming, taking away space from normal summer beaches. Do you understand where I am going with this?
@dmitriy40 , honestly no because one is a activity for fun and the other is for transportation. The two can't even be compared. You keep saying no one /almost no one rides in winter and that is not true. People in Europe do it ALL THE TIME! The numbers here in the states are going up every year and it is time for you to just accept bicycles as transportation. You don't have to ride one yourself, but they will be on the road in increasing numbers every year.
@harshbarj Actually, I do ride a bike. I have an old Mongoose hanging on the wall of my studio, and I'm about to sacrifice another wall, because I really like Fuji Classic Track. So I want to have both. I do not use a bike to commute now, but I did a couple of years ago for about a year.
I did not see the need for bike lanes then, and I don't see the need for them now.
@harshbarj I oppose special bike lanes because I find it unfair to redistribute 20 to 50% of street space for a "niche" group of people whose numbers WILL NEVER be anywhere near 20% of population, especially in an all-weather, all-season city.
Bike lanes are not "created" or "made". They are taken from car lanes. Millions of people in NYC use car lanes, and rely on goods and services, provided to them using car lanes.
@harshbarj I think one of the biggest responsibility of a big city government is TO FORCE RESIDENTS AWAY FROM CARS and into a public transport system. I admire what they do in London, where one pays a pretty penny to enter the city by car. They also have shared bus/bike lanes, which I think is great -- I would welcome that!
Your position looks selfish to me -- you only care about your own needs, not the city's.
@dmitriy40 , me selfish? You need to read your posts then. I am all for sharing the road while you want them all to yourself. YOU seem to be the selfish one. Also in many European countries they do just fine riding bicycles. Seems your just too into car culture to understand.
Lastly your "Polar Bear" analogy is severely flawed in another way. They take the plunge only a few days a year while cycling is comfortable to most at least half the year to 3/4ths of the year.
@harshbarj I have a hard time understanding what sort of lifestyle you lead, if you think "automobiles days ... are numbered". You're 31? So I guess you think all ages can ride a bike? Regularly? Shopping? Going on dates? Opera? Wall st and Madison av executives meeting with clients? What do you do? Are you sweaty, when you get to your job on a bike? How about in the summer, 95F and 98% humidity? Heavy rain? Cold? Do you think Wall st guys can hack that? They pay 25% of city's taxes, remember?
@dmitriy40 , also most of what your claiming can only be done in a car I do all the time on my bicycle. Many people in this and other countries also get along just fine with just their bike. Now it may not be for you and that's fine, but I still strongly think cycling would fit most people just fine.
@harshbarj Although you evade the question, I assume you have a job which allows you to arrive SWEATY at the beginning of the day. My experience of over 18 years in NYC tells me that most people (probably 90%) in this city cannot do that. I will simply never accept your argument that you are NOT sweaty and at least somewhat disheveled at the end of your commute -- that is if you make this argument.
@dmitriy40, I bring a change of cloths and arrive with time to spare(to cool down), though honestly I go at a slow enough pace (generally 15kph tops) that I rarely sweat. I live in a city that is FAR hotter and FAR more humid than NYC and have never had a problem with sweat. By your logic people that drive cars without air conditioners would not be able to hold down a job and I know that is not true.
I just now realized from your comment -- YOU ARE NOT A NEW-YORKER!
I know nothing about Omaha infrastructure, so of course I would never pretend to have an informed opinion about it. But that's just me...
I feel ridiculous having spent so much time discussing NYC transportation trends with an outsider -- my own fault, should have checked first. I thought -- the clip being specifically about NYC -- just the residents get to voice valid opinions... Oh well.
@dmitriy40 , dude, traffic is traffic. This story may be about NYC but the idea is country wide and the fight for equality is also country wide. If anything NYC should have an easier time implementing bicycle infrastructure due to the flat terrain and the far greater number of cyclists.
@harshbarj The 13,000 yellow cabs make a combined MILLION trips every 24 hours. I do not know how many trips car services and limos make (about 100,000 cars), but they are also constantly working. People have to wait for taxis at Penn Sta, Grand Ctr, Port Auth, airports. Of course, MTA is transporting MANY TIMES more. So... these people just need is a bike lane, and they will all get on bikes, right? Why do million people fight over cabs on EVERY Saturday night? Why are they not biking now???
@dmitriy40 , Given proper protected lanes and bike sharing programs, yes some of them may just jump on a bicycle. NYC is very flat and a perfect city for cycling. Will everyone jump on a bike? No, but that's not the point. Use of bus systems is low across the country, yet we still fund those and they don't produce the same health and environmental benefits that cycling produces.
@dmitriy40,actually it depends on where you get your figures. The NY-DOT says bicycling is growing FAST. Only the census is trying to say cycling is declining and it says that about a lot of places that simply is not the case.
As for your rant on the cold, just look at Europe and how most people there continue to ride even in winter. It can, no, it WILL work here as well. The automobiles days as king are numbered!
I've cycled in Europe where they have separated bike lanes. They simply don't work. They basically turn cyclists into pedestrians because the bike lane essentially ends at every intersection. At those points, cyclists are in greater danger because cars don't look for cyclists. The safest policy is to treat bicycles as cars. This policy is currently the law and it works fine as long as cyclists aren't too timid.
@BeeryUSA You're right, it only works if also laws are adjusted. A few years ago the traffic laws in the Netherlands were changed so that cars and cyclists have equal priority rights on the streets. Also car drivers are expected to take more responsibility towards cyclist by law.
So, at intersections cyclist has priority on cars at that same lane here.
Nice idea but where do you steel the room to do that . One of the problems is the business and government did not provide off street parking for vehicles .
@joe2grand yea but at least your in an urban setting with lots of other cyclist and you don't have to worry about how in the world you'er going to be able to pay all the medical bills if you do survive the accident. Here in the u.s. it mostly all suburbs with few sidewalks were available and many large busy highway like streets with no side walks or any body else on bicycle because no ones stupid enough to get on a u.s. street lol since they know they'll most likely get ran over.
Lol, Europe and Asia have been doing this for years. Not every one can own a car, that's why they are their. Thing is that this country apparently only cares about auto manufactures' pockets when it comes to transit.
Oh yes. Watch closely. A lot of these "Bike Paths" are actually "Multi-Use" Paths with a lot of other users and not only cyclist. So instead of bike/motorists issues, you may now have bike/pedestrian issues. But that's okay because it's out of the way of the motorist
Nice, but remember, the intersections are STILL a problem where a lot of times neither the cyclist nor the motorists are paying attention and you end up with a bike/motorist accident.. Especially when a car is making either a right or left turn.
@coyoteself that's why there's supposed to be road signs for both motorist and cyclist. For example. Certain intersections don't allow a cyclist to make a right turn.
True everyone (Motrist, cyclist and pedstrians) needs to know all the laws and follow the rules of the road. Sadly it doesn't work that way, so our next option is to try and segregate everyone by mode of travel, even then we still have problems.
Don't get me wrong as a cyclist with over 30 years of road riding and commuting experience in traffic, I do agree with "Bike paths," but only so long as they are both properly designed and constructed.
@coyoteself well that's why their must be fines and SERIOUS law inforcment concerning these rules and regulations and like you said properly designed and constructed infrastructure and not just some stickers on the ground. I mean, this just doesn't happen. What I mean is that if the Gov. really wanted to enable people to choose efficiently between public transit, personnel transit, and transit by cycle wouldn't they do it?
@shechshire To do what is need you would have to widen distance between the building on both sides of the street and what would cost billions to do in some cases billions per block. Who is going to pay.
@samten10a no you don't, bicycle lanes are pretty small and road signs for all three modes of traffic (public, motorist, cyclist) help the congestion and safety of traffic.
@coyoteself I mean they do it effectively every were else without any excuses. Since most people cant rely on crappy u.s. transit they have to ALL rely on autos.
Why it is just accepted as a fact that cars park on the bike lane? Why aren't they getting high enough fines? Why aren't motorists effectively enforced by law, and held responsible to take enough care for the weaker?
The only solution is to massively increase the number of cyclists. As a first step separated lanes can be helpful. But be aware, that the space for separated lanes is very finite, so after a certain point, the idea that separation = safety is a real obstacle.
Busy areas in NYC LIC are dangerous place to bicycle.I was hit on Steinway St. in Long Island City by a van 7 years ago. I have a stiff knee now, lucky to be alive. Afraid to ride my bicycle now, except on empty side walks.
Since there are SUVs even more dangerous for bicyclists. I was doored on my face by a car. Forest Park, Q the roads there needed repair..
@JaneRoth that's why I used to ride on sidewalks only back when I didn't have a car... and that's when there is even a freaking sidewalk to begin with since here in Miami public transit is so bad. If I would have known back then that I had to go through grass, gravel, ROCKS, mud, I would have bought a mountain bike lol.
In my country, Colombia, in the capital Bogota, we have had these things for many years. It does help, it's like a seperated street made especially for bicyclists. It's great! I thought they at least would have that in NYC. Hmm. Sorry for my bad english!
I wish bicyclists would acquire some manners, culture and common courtesy. When you DODGE people and cars, you're presenting a danger to the whole community. Leave the bike at home, use subway or a car - do us all a favor, PLEASE.
Get a car, idiots! Bicyclists are some of the worst people that I encounter in New York on everyday basis. They have no regard for other people, pedestrians or drivers. They act like they're diety of some sort that can ignore everyone else and do as they please, such as bicycle in the OPPOSITE direction, go on RED LIGHT, often causing dangerous situation for everybody. But not only are they stubborn idiots, they're also untouchables, you can't honk at them, the precious bicyclists.
People who own cars are rude. US cities must change traffic from stupid car highways polluting the city to public transport and other possibilities like cycling. Let´s create more space for bikers and public transport.
US is a car country. The whole freaking system, including legal, engineering, tax, politics are all cater to automobiles. That's why I, as an American, am often pissed that my country is a second class country.
You should feel blessed that gas cost so little in your country! I love to travel there and pay less than 1/4 of Netherland's price. And I can rent a big, comfortable SUV to travel to national parks at the same cost I'd rent a compact here. You're far more efficient (and you pay few taxes!) Be glad on you country, I'd love to live there!
The blessing of low gasoline price turn into curses of endless traffic jam, automobile accidents, highway high-speed police chases, terrorism, road-rages and global warming.
Traffic jams = lack of matching/planning of roads AHEAD of development. Automobile accidents = happen everywhere, don't blame gas prices. There are way more bycicle fatalities/100K inhabitants in Netherlands than USA.. Road-rages = asshole people, we have rages in shopping, stores, universities. Terrorism linked do gas prices? Give me a break, that's cheap leaftism. Some Muslim jerks fool around with the World, regardless os gas prices (otherwhise, London would have been spared).
One person drive a machine that has only 20%~30% energy efficiency. I understand if I am hauling something, but for daily commute to work? Tell me if everybody in the world live like the automobile-America, the earth will not go to hell in less than a month.
If you live in a dense area, you could bike or walk or even take crappy transit. However, if you live in a decent house with a garden, a yard and some privacy, i doubt that transit will ever be efficient. Therefore, tons of Park-and-Ride schemes make more sense than raging war on the car.
I do not want to wage war against cars, I will wage war against American's mentally that everything is plentiful, including land and fuel. I will never understand why Wal-mart, Target, Home Depot, Lowes - all have these "one floor" shopping building. So most suburban shopping mall has to be size of 20 football fields. What? We Americans do not like to climb stairs or take elevators?
It's called cost-reduction. Land cost little (US have 1/3 of European Union-15 population and 2.4 times the area), and is FAR easier to keep stocks in shops if they're just one floor (think about moving the items, not the people). A multi-story supermarket would also require A LOT of lifts and passages, due to safety regulations.
Then try to do a month grocery errand on a bike, or to go to a meeting with a client on a suit, or to buy anything weighing more than 40 lbs... Public Transit have its space, but cars are needed too... You cannot life comfortably riding only in a bike and/or P.T.
The largest drawback to 9th Avenue is the light timing. They are not timed to the bike, but the car. It may be safer, but you start and stop about every 3 short NYC blocks.
I live in Copenhagen (shown in most of the pictures) and I ride my bike 99% of the time. It takes no time and gives you a sence of freedom like nothing else.
I only take the public transportation if I have to go further than 15-20 km.
I have had some americans staying, who borrowed bikes, and they too loved the many bikelanes in Copenhagen. So go on New York, get some more bikelanes, its worth it.
There is a separated bike lane in West Seattle and it works like a charm. I love it; the biggest problem then becomes PEDESTRIANS that want to use the lane even though it's marked as a bike lane. Dodging pedestrians is usually safer than cars though.
The "normal" bike lanes in downtown mean I take the lane rather than use the facilities provided to me. The biggest downside is I usually have to SLOW DOWN to get through the city when this happens... the cars are just too slow.
Do you believe that society and the state have no say at all in your/our collective safety or do you think that's just a part of the nanny society? Most serious cyclists wear helmets and so do their children which is the law in many places. On one level perhaps I should not care, but will you not become dependent on the rest of US as in me if you require constant medical attention for thirty years of vegetative existence?
But here is my question..why do you care as to wheather or not we wear helments?? Jua=st go about your happy little lives and we will do the same. That annoys me so much sometimes I swear.
Safe cycling requires a good bike, surface conditions, biking skills and a helmet. Why would some who want the first 2 (or 3?) conditions make fun of the 4th? My boys wear theirs all the time-and ride defensively. We should show only riders wearing helmets and encourage children to wear theirs--it's the law where I live.I value protecting my skull--but I have a lot at stake in my happy little life. I hope you do in your happy little skull-- and life.
FOUND on MAILING LIST: How does it get swept?, cleared of snow? It treats bicycles as non-vehicles and encourages the more dangerous
separated behavior over the integrated behavior. Reduced visibility at the most dangerous points, intersections (60%+ of all
motor vehicle/bicycle crashes.) Making safe left turns with traffic almost impossible. Under current State law, local jurisdictions could "require" bikes use them,even if the rider feels safe riding with traffic. (reply?)
So you have your seperate bike lane, which is fine. When you want to progress straight ahead. What happens at intersections? What about side roads crossing the bike lane? You can't completely eliminate interaction with traffic and I think the more you reduce it, via segregation, the less patient and less knowledgeable drivers become when dealing with cyclists. Sod the bike lines. Get the cyclists on the road. Get the cyclists the respect they deserve. Get more people out of cars and onto bikes.
Opening car doors are not a problem if you are taking proper lane position (yes, take the lane) at least one metre from parked cars. Be visible, be predictable, take a course, learn how to ride in traffic.
If you've taken the lane you also have some maneurverability.
The problem with the seperated lane scheme is that it only LOOKS safe. It is not actually any safer than Effective Cycling (ie riding correctly in traffic.)
Hey, my class and me are doing a project in our class and we trying to get bike lanes. In our town, we need them!!!! I was wondering if you had any advice to give me? thanks.
Organize with other cyclists into an advocacy coalition/association. Focus on improving and implementing the bicycle master plan or other planning document in your municipality that speaks to bicycle transportation planning.
I think this is a great thing. There needs to be more protection for bikers. Just like cars, bikes have a stopping distance much longer than expected. You can't stop on a dime, these quick events, doors opening, cars turning, ect can cause accidents. Cycling is a great option for everybody, and I'm sure it will be more popular if it was safer.
Great! My gf and I just bought two bikes and thinking of going to work by them. However, the traffic is really scary. If drivers and cyclists can learn to respect each other. This could be a great city to ride bike and make it greener.
Of course, you could always - I don't know - LOOK before you get out of your car. You know, PAY ATTENTION to your surroundings. Of course, if you are currently having problems seeing dogshit [sic] on the sidewalk (not known for its ambulatory properties) then you likely have other problems.
this all sounds great. i'm glad there are people who care this much about this problem. but i can't believe it didn't mention the problem with dooring.
You didn't watch well enough. We show someone nearly get doored, when talking about problems. When talking about the lanes it is shown how good separated facilities keep you out of the door zone. Maybe we didn't do a full presentation, but it is mixed in there.
Untill you get the optimized bikelanes, equip the bikes with a large hammer.
Here you'd get a licence remark for cardriving in the bike lane. 3 remarks takes your licence for 1$ year. Driving a truck in the bikelane takes the licence right away.
I know a guy in Oakland who's a wannabe stuntman, he stages accidents and 'ghost rides' one of his 'beater bikes' into the back of cars that double park in bike lanes. Most of the time the dumb dunce driver is picking up dry cleaning or something, and they leave their vehicle unattended. Par for the course I guess. I like clowns better though.
Which cyclists are have the best mobility and the lowest crash rates?
The cyclists who learn to use the rules of the road and ride with traffic, or those who look to the bike lane and segregation?
This question has never been asked and no study has ever been conducted to find the answer, although it would be very simple to do. Obviously, we do not want the answer.
I'd like the answer. I can't figure it out myself.
Not that it's nescessary in a country where cycklists are supposed to know the rules too. We separate cycklists in "those who read the traffic" and "those who learned that everybody else must take care of bikes".
Should we even be having this sort of study? Why not just install bike lanes intelligently and be done with it. People who park/drive cars in the bike lane will be ticket, fined, towed, etc, and people who bike in traffic (when a bike lane is present) will likewise be ticketed, fined, bike confiscated, etc.
Hey there umlud, I'm legally allowed to exit the bike lane to pass slower cyclists here in the Golden State. Realize that unless we would have omnipresent metermaids, we wouldn't "be done with it." Fucktards would still park their cages there and game the system. Did I catch you suggesting bike confiscation, you WillieBrownesque totalitarian fascistic piece of shit!
the idea of FORCING cyclists to ride in a poorly designed bike lane (ie one that forces them too close to parked cars so they can get the Door Prize) just because the bike lane is there is extremely evil, wrongheaded, ignorant, stupid, and dangerous.
We have a little drive along a winding road where bikers (I, myself, included) enjoy riding. There is enough road to ride single file but most of the time you will see two to three bikes abreast. This place has a 50 mph speed limit. Sure enough someone was going 50 around one of the curves and ran over two bikers. The driver of the car survived.
I like the barriers because it separates the bike from the other traffic. Cars don't behave like bikes; bikes don't behave like cars. If you are waiting for everyone to stop running lights, talking on their cell phones, etc., good luck. There are just some places I won't go on my bike, some places I can ride with the traffic, and some where I have to behave like half bike/half ped in order to be safe.
For the longest time cyclists have had a "share the road" mentality where bikes should be able to have the same freedom as cars and trucks and do this on the same piece of road. One of my cyclist customers had this same view until a little ole lady ran over him while he was making a left turn from the left turn lane at an intersection. He won the arguement in court but lost the arguement with the bumper of her car.
Maybe car drivers can also stop running red lights, speeding , car drivers ignore the laws of the road as much as anyone else, thing is ... cars are lethal machines that murder innocent people each and every day.
All the bike lanes here in China are physically separate from the traffic, often with beautiful tree lines and shaded ways. Part of the reason I moved here was to escape car hell, USA.
I think that New York City should create barrier between bicyclists, pedestrians, and drivers. Also, in secondary tier cities like Milwaukee it would be nice if they would have separate bicycle lanes with barriers throughout the city. Even in small cities like Waukesha, Wisconsin it would be nice to have bicycle lanes with physical barriers throughout the city.
America is so confused ohhhhhhh i have been in NYC i like it but in a thath big syty i felt so much lonely there everybodi is in a hurry it`s a HOUSE :) greetings from Europe,Bulgaia,Varna
Sidewalk, bikelane, a narrow physical barrier, parking, cars - that's how it is in almost every town in Germany. And it works very well! In Karlsruhe we also have bikelanes painted in red among the normal lanes, which doesn't work so well but gives the town a good income on fines.
Read my article "DIY Geurrilla Bike Lanes, Sharrows, and Separated Bike Lanes" on Fixpert, unfortunately YouTube won't let me post a link to it, but I'll try to put a readable version here if you're interested:
"Yes! And I hate that! You need to learn English before writing! Man darai geda su tokiom klaidom!!! "In Lithuania there is a bigger problem, here there is NO bike lanes in the streets and buses are very dangerous for people... :("
Whats a bike line? a line for cyclists to ride on?
Yes! And i h8 that! You need to learn English before writing! Man darai geda su tokiom klaidom!!! "In Lithuania there is a bigger problem, here is NO bike lines in the streets and buses are very dangerous for people... :("
I think the way to fix the problems described with left turns, signalling, and pedestrians would be to set up elevated bikeways on the busiest crosstown streets, like Houston street for example.
I ride a bicycle everywhere -- check out my channel and you'll see why. It's FAR more healthy than climbing into a fucking car and being carried around place to place without an ounce of effort required.
Bicycle lanes EVERYWHERE are needed. When these Christofascists fight over oil and drive the prices up, bicycles will take over again anyway.
If you have all of these seperated bike lanes, how long do you think there get before being abused with people, who add engines to there bycycles ,, i think you all know what im talking about.
Or people speeding to fast for the cycle lane ?
And 1 more thing, dont hate cars or trucks, its trucks who bring the bikes to the shops lol , j/k
Riding a bike is so much more efficient than driving a car. And for those who complain about having to ride a bike as it being to hard, get off your ass and do something besides driving, and you'll see it's not that hard.
wahahah thats scary ...
makeiteasyable 1 month ago
Acá en Argentina, la bicisenda... es opcional !!
jaja por favor espero correcciones
ganjacity1 2 months ago in playlist Bicicletismo
Would have been made a better video if you had addressed some of points for not doing it - even if it means having an ignorant driver's comment on there it makes a much more balanced and encouraging approach.
What about the segregation of bikes and pedestrians? At least cars are more predictable - pedestrians are much harder to predict and can often breach a bike lane without event looking. Something needs to be done to ensure pedestrian safety as well as bike safety.
vousden 3 months ago
City of Copenhagen, reports that “A decline in road safety at junctions has undoubtedly taken place after the construction of cycle tracks [separated bike lanes]”.
- City of Copenhagen, Road and Park Department, Denmark.
604commuter 6 months ago
Can we have these in Boston too please?
nacomstock1 7 months ago
It is much easier to build a WALL than to build RESPECT. But it does not solve the problem. How do you think that car drivers will respect bicyclists if you keep telling then that bicyclists should not be on the streets???
MestreJonas2000 7 months ago
just give everyone a gun
trultima 7 months ago
why is everybody wearing a helmed . here in the netherlands we dont wear a helmed
i only wear a helmed if i go bmx in a skatepark
1bmxdude 7 months ago
@1bmxdude These drivers in this city are out of control it's a must a lot of the time, Im even thinking of getting one
WatWarrior22 7 months ago
@1bmxdude I don't even wear a helmed when i go bmx in the skade park!
zivkovicable 6 months ago
@zivkovicable yea if i go to the local little skate track i also dont wear a helmed but only if i go to the bigger skateparks because then i go trying some crazy stuff.
1bmxdude 6 months ago
is that picture from holland made in the city deventer???? it looks pretty the same
haha that pretty dangerous. i love the netherlands (we can bmx on the street without trouble with cops)
1bmxdude 7 months ago
All bike lanes everywhere should be physically separated as shown here. It would not take much to alter existing bike lanes to get them physically separated.
nunyabidnez2011 8 months ago
Bikes are a great way to commute, stay fit and stay green. It gets people outside which is amazing too (:
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Come take a look how the Netherlands does it.
spysonic 9 months ago
This is a great video. The only way to solve this problem is to create more lanes for bikes by reducing the lanes that cars once used, like if there are four lanes for cars, reduce it to two lanes for cars, three lanes for bikes, and make it not cool to drive vehicles which make us lazy and fat anyways, that would encourage us to get tired of driving and get us riding bicycles more worthwhile.
Blackwater200 10 months ago
Fantastic! This sort of thing is long overdue here abouts, and much too far removed from the American conscience.
Denmark and the Netherlands have perfected the bicycle lane. The UK took control over banks that had a hand in destroying the world's economy thru nefarious business practices. Canada has an exemplary health care system for its citizens...
If 'Murica is the best country in the world, when, exactly, are we going to catch up with all the nations that we're supposed to be better than?
skoockum 10 months ago
For the most part bike lanes in the Netherlands are not on sidewalks, they are separate. Not sure what they guy is talking about.
zipsled 10 months ago
This was absolutely OUTSTANDING!
WatWarrior22 1 year ago
Good video. As somebody who engages in all different kinds of personal transportation (walking, cycling, and driving), I've learned that having dedicated passageways for distinct modes of transportation (roads, sidewalks, and even bike lanes) is a great idea. Although it happens, it's never a good idea to drive on the sidewalk or walk down a highway. The more protected bike lanes, the fewer incidents of accidents resulting from cyclists in car lanes. It'll just take LOTS of education to succeed.
mfuton 1 year ago
A bike IS NOT a year-round, all-weather, all occasion mode of transport. Yes, I realize that some nut cases will ride in the snow and in the rain, but you cannot expect everyone to do that. So we are chocking traffic for all, while providing special lanes for some, which they will use only in good weather, only for some occasions.
These trucks are not on the street for fun, they deliver goods which everyone needs, they move our economy, and now they are forced to unload in the middle of street
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40 , Cycling IS a year round, all weather, mode of transit. Only exceptions are extreme weather that even motorists give pause about driving in. It's amazing how little it actually takes to keep warm in the winter or dry during a thunderstorm. And for the record I use my bicycles almost entirely for commuting to work or for my shopping. Very rarely do I bicycle just for fun.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj It is appropriate for you to respond NOW, when it is freezing outside. As I said above, some nut cases will ride year-round, but those are EXTREME exceptions. You exist in a fantasy bubble if you believe that bikes can be adopted as main mode of transport by large number of New-Yorkers. I'm in the city every day, and never once have I seen a bike lane FULL of bikes. In NYC, bike use is well under 1%, but in many places bike lanes take up to 50% of street space?!?!? ...insane.
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@dmitriy40,actually it depends on where you get your figures. The NY-DOT says bicycling is growing FAST. Only the census is trying to say cycling is declining and it says that about a lot of places that simply is not the case.
As for your rant on the cold, just look at Europe and how most people there continue to ride even in winter. It can, no, it WILL work here as well. The automobiles days as king are numbered!
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj In Coney Island, there are 2 groups of "Polar Bears", who dunk themselves in the Ocean in front of cameras in January (usually January 1, actually). The existence of these groups (and god bless them) does not justify the statement: PEOPLE SWIM IN THE OCEAN IN THE WINTER. Only some do. And millions of public funds should not be used to build special beaches for winter swimming, taking away space from normal summer beaches. Do you understand where I am going with this?
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40 , honestly no because one is a activity for fun and the other is for transportation. The two can't even be compared. You keep saying no one /almost no one rides in winter and that is not true. People in Europe do it ALL THE TIME! The numbers here in the states are going up every year and it is time for you to just accept bicycles as transportation. You don't have to ride one yourself, but they will be on the road in increasing numbers every year.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj Actually, I do ride a bike. I have an old Mongoose hanging on the wall of my studio, and I'm about to sacrifice another wall, because I really like Fuji Classic Track. So I want to have both. I do not use a bike to commute now, but I did a couple of years ago for about a year.
I did not see the need for bike lanes then, and I don't see the need for them now.
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@harshbarj I oppose special bike lanes because I find it unfair to redistribute 20 to 50% of street space for a "niche" group of people whose numbers WILL NEVER be anywhere near 20% of population, especially in an all-weather, all-season city.
Bike lanes are not "created" or "made". They are taken from car lanes. Millions of people in NYC use car lanes, and rely on goods and services, provided to them using car lanes.
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@harshbarj I think one of the biggest responsibility of a big city government is TO FORCE RESIDENTS AWAY FROM CARS and into a public transport system. I admire what they do in London, where one pays a pretty penny to enter the city by car. They also have shared bus/bike lanes, which I think is great -- I would welcome that!
Your position looks selfish to me -- you only care about your own needs, not the city's.
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40 , me selfish? You need to read your posts then. I am all for sharing the road while you want them all to yourself. YOU seem to be the selfish one. Also in many European countries they do just fine riding bicycles. Seems your just too into car culture to understand.
Lastly your "Polar Bear" analogy is severely flawed in another way. They take the plunge only a few days a year while cycling is comfortable to most at least half the year to 3/4ths of the year.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj I have a hard time understanding what sort of lifestyle you lead, if you think "automobiles days ... are numbered". You're 31? So I guess you think all ages can ride a bike? Regularly? Shopping? Going on dates? Opera? Wall st and Madison av executives meeting with clients? What do you do? Are you sweaty, when you get to your job on a bike? How about in the summer, 95F and 98% humidity? Heavy rain? Cold? Do you think Wall st guys can hack that? They pay 25% of city's taxes, remember?
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40 , also most of what your claiming can only be done in a car I do all the time on my bicycle. Many people in this and other countries also get along just fine with just their bike. Now it may not be for you and that's fine, but I still strongly think cycling would fit most people just fine.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj Although you evade the question, I assume you have a job which allows you to arrive SWEATY at the beginning of the day. My experience of over 18 years in NYC tells me that most people (probably 90%) in this city cannot do that. I will simply never accept your argument that you are NOT sweaty and at least somewhat disheveled at the end of your commute -- that is if you make this argument.
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40, I bring a change of cloths and arrive with time to spare(to cool down), though honestly I go at a slow enough pace (generally 15kph tops) that I rarely sweat. I live in a city that is FAR hotter and FAR more humid than NYC and have never had a problem with sweat. By your logic people that drive cars without air conditioners would not be able to hold down a job and I know that is not true.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj damn!
I just now realized from your comment -- YOU ARE NOT A NEW-YORKER!
I know nothing about Omaha infrastructure, so of course I would never pretend to have an informed opinion about it. But that's just me...
I feel ridiculous having spent so much time discussing NYC transportation trends with an outsider -- my own fault, should have checked first. I thought -- the clip being specifically about NYC -- just the residents get to voice valid opinions... Oh well.
Good day! Stay safe!
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40 , dude, traffic is traffic. This story may be about NYC but the idea is country wide and the fight for equality is also country wide. If anything NYC should have an easier time implementing bicycle infrastructure due to the flat terrain and the far greater number of cyclists.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj ignorance is bliss
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@harshbarj The 13,000 yellow cabs make a combined MILLION trips every 24 hours. I do not know how many trips car services and limos make (about 100,000 cars), but they are also constantly working. People have to wait for taxis at Penn Sta, Grand Ctr, Port Auth, airports. Of course, MTA is transporting MANY TIMES more. So... these people just need is a bike lane, and they will all get on bikes, right? Why do million people fight over cabs on EVERY Saturday night? Why are they not biking now???
dmitriy40 1 year ago
@dmitriy40 , Given proper protected lanes and bike sharing programs, yes some of them may just jump on a bicycle. NYC is very flat and a perfect city for cycling. Will everyone jump on a bike? No, but that's not the point. Use of bus systems is low across the country, yet we still fund those and they don't produce the same health and environmental benefits that cycling produces.
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@dmitriy40,actually it depends on where you get your figures. The NY-DOT says bicycling is growing FAST. Only the census is trying to say cycling is declining and it says that about a lot of places that simply is not the case.
As for your rant on the cold, just look at Europe and how most people there continue to ride even in winter. It can, no, it WILL work here as well. The automobiles days as king are numbered!
harshbarj 1 year ago
Bike lanes do not work... see my video:
watch?v=06zABmJOl9k
winnipegreport 1 year ago
When I see cars in the bike lane, I ride by and flip their side view mirror forward.
m015094 1 year ago
I've cycled in Europe where they have separated bike lanes. They simply don't work. They basically turn cyclists into pedestrians because the bike lane essentially ends at every intersection. At those points, cyclists are in greater danger because cars don't look for cyclists. The safest policy is to treat bicycles as cars. This policy is currently the law and it works fine as long as cyclists aren't too timid.
BeeryUSA 1 year ago
@BeeryUSA You're right, it only works if also laws are adjusted. A few years ago the traffic laws in the Netherlands were changed so that cars and cyclists have equal priority rights on the streets. Also car drivers are expected to take more responsibility towards cyclist by law.
So, at intersections cyclist has priority on cars at that same lane here.
jhcfight 1 year ago
who the fuck disliked this? cabbies?
Quirkification 1 year ago
Nice idea but where do you steel the room to do that . One of the problems is the business and government did not provide off street parking for vehicles .
samten10a 1 year ago
AWESOME VIDEO!!!
funguycheng 1 year ago
please do NOT use london as a good example of cycle lanes!!!! we have very few , they are not seperate from traffic and there are many deaths still-
joe2grand 1 year ago
@joe2grand yea but at least your in an urban setting with lots of other cyclist and you don't have to worry about how in the world you'er going to be able to pay all the medical bills if you do survive the accident. Here in the u.s. it mostly all suburbs with few sidewalks were available and many large busy highway like streets with no side walks or any body else on bicycle because no ones stupid enough to get on a u.s. street lol since they know they'll most likely get ran over.
shechshire 1 year ago
@joe2grand .........and then comes all the impossible medical bills followed by all the annoying private bill collectors lol
shechshire 1 year ago
Lol, here in Miami dade county, we don't have bike lanes to begin with haha.
The freken irony! Of course its better. They have been pulling this shit over our heads for years.
shechshire 2 years ago
Lol, Europe and Asia have been doing this for years. Not every one can own a car, that's why they are their. Thing is that this country apparently only cares about auto manufactures' pockets when it comes to transit.
shechshire 2 years ago
newyork... more like the ENTIRE U.S. budy
shechshire 2 years ago
Oh yes. Watch closely. A lot of these "Bike Paths" are actually "Multi-Use" Paths with a lot of other users and not only cyclist. So instead of bike/motorists issues, you may now have bike/pedestrian issues. But that's okay because it's out of the way of the motorist
coyoteself 2 years ago
Nice, but remember, the intersections are STILL a problem where a lot of times neither the cyclist nor the motorists are paying attention and you end up with a bike/motorist accident.. Especially when a car is making either a right or left turn.
coyoteself 2 years ago
@coyoteself that's why there's supposed to be road signs for both motorist and cyclist. For example. Certain intersections don't allow a cyclist to make a right turn.
shechshire 2 years ago
True everyone (Motrist, cyclist and pedstrians) needs to know all the laws and follow the rules of the road. Sadly it doesn't work that way, so our next option is to try and segregate everyone by mode of travel, even then we still have problems.
Don't get me wrong as a cyclist with over 30 years of road riding and commuting experience in traffic, I do agree with "Bike paths," but only so long as they are both properly designed and constructed.
Sadly, there's no easy, cheap solution tho
coyoteself 2 years ago
@coyoteself well that's why their must be fines and SERIOUS law inforcment concerning these rules and regulations and like you said properly designed and constructed infrastructure and not just some stickers on the ground. I mean, this just doesn't happen. What I mean is that if the Gov. really wanted to enable people to choose efficiently between public transit, personnel transit, and transit by cycle wouldn't they do it?
shechshire 2 years ago
@shechshire To do what is need you would have to widen distance between the building on both sides of the street and what would cost billions to do in some cases billions per block. Who is going to pay.
samten10a 1 year ago
@samten10a no you don't, bicycle lanes are pretty small and road signs for all three modes of traffic (public, motorist, cyclist) help the congestion and safety of traffic.
shechshire 1 year ago
@coyoteself I mean they do it effectively every were else without any excuses. Since most people cant rely on crappy u.s. transit they have to ALL rely on autos.
shechshire 2 years ago
@coyoteself that would maybe explain our traffic problem lol
shechshire 2 years ago
Why it is just accepted as a fact that cars park on the bike lane? Why aren't they getting high enough fines? Why aren't motorists effectively enforced by law, and held responsible to take enough care for the weaker?
The only solution is to massively increase the number of cyclists. As a first step separated lanes can be helpful. But be aware, that the space for separated lanes is very finite, so after a certain point, the idea that separation = safety is a real obstacle.
balazskecskemeti 2 years ago
i agree with the fact that cyclist should be totally separate from normal traffic.
YellowBigLemon 2 years ago
thank you so juch for this clip. very informative.
soobeng 2 years ago
the bikes lanes are most safull next to side walk.
but the problem beggins when the cars are parking on the bikes lane.
in my city we call a telephone number and the municipality police is coming..
leave your cars at your home.
bikes are most healthy for your own life.
bertheway 2 years ago
this is an awesome idea!
KenzieLew 2 years ago 3
go copenhagen !!
medsa666 2 years ago
A superb video!
Physically separated bike lanes are an excellent idea for NYC.
PaydAuge 2 years ago
lmao at the rollerblader in the Paris shot.
tootsie400 2 years ago
Good film but you really don't want to use London (or the UK) as an example, try Holland.
christonabicycle 2 years ago 2
Busy areas in NYC LIC are dangerous place to bicycle.I was hit on Steinway St. in Long Island City by a van 7 years ago. I have a stiff knee now, lucky to be alive. Afraid to ride my bicycle now, except on empty side walks.
Since there are SUVs even more dangerous for bicyclists. I was doored on my face by a car. Forest Park, Q the roads there needed repair..
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More bike less pollution.
Lady Jane/LIC, NY
JaneRoth 2 years ago
@JaneRoth that's why I used to ride on sidewalks only back when I didn't have a car... and that's when there is even a freaking sidewalk to begin with since here in Miami public transit is so bad. If I would have known back then that I had to go through grass, gravel, ROCKS, mud, I would have bought a mountain bike lol.
shechshire 2 years ago
In my country, Colombia, in the capital Bogota, we have had these things for many years. It does help, it's like a seperated street made especially for bicyclists. It's great! I thought they at least would have that in NYC. Hmm. Sorry for my bad english!
Dani1love 2 years ago
I wish bicyclists would acquire some manners, culture and common courtesy. When you DODGE people and cars, you're presenting a danger to the whole community. Leave the bike at home, use subway or a car - do us all a favor, PLEASE.
mesofius 2 years ago
Get a car, idiots! Bicyclists are some of the worst people that I encounter in New York on everyday basis. They have no regard for other people, pedestrians or drivers. They act like they're diety of some sort that can ignore everyone else and do as they please, such as bicycle in the OPPOSITE direction, go on RED LIGHT, often causing dangerous situation for everybody. But not only are they stubborn idiots, they're also untouchables, you can't honk at them, the precious bicyclists.
mesofius 2 years ago
get a life
TheJustinCooley 2 years ago
Separated bike lanes are much more dangerous at intersections. Sidewalk bike lanes are even worse, you will hit pedestrians.
What is needed is proper traffic law enforcement, make people learn that park where you can't park = fine.
pppjunk 2 years ago
Is that why they have less bike-car accidents at intersections in Germany, Holland, and other European countries?
jefflunar 2 years ago
ok wierd
uniballman 2 years ago
People who own cars are rude. US cities must change traffic from stupid car highways polluting the city to public transport and other possibilities like cycling. Let´s create more space for bikers and public transport.
krizvasa 2 years ago
US is a car country. The whole freaking system, including legal, engineering, tax, politics are all cater to automobiles. That's why I, as an American, am often pissed that my country is a second class country.
merakhagen 2 years ago
You should feel blessed that gas cost so little in your country! I love to travel there and pay less than 1/4 of Netherland's price. And I can rent a big, comfortable SUV to travel to national parks at the same cost I'd rent a compact here. You're far more efficient (and you pay few taxes!) Be glad on you country, I'd love to live there!
lottube 2 years ago
The blessing of low gasoline price turn into curses of endless traffic jam, automobile accidents, highway high-speed police chases, terrorism, road-rages and global warming.
merakhagen 2 years ago
Traffic jams = lack of matching/planning of roads AHEAD of development. Automobile accidents = happen everywhere, don't blame gas prices. There are way more bycicle fatalities/100K inhabitants in Netherlands than USA.. Road-rages = asshole people, we have rages in shopping, stores, universities. Terrorism linked do gas prices? Give me a break, that's cheap leaftism. Some Muslim jerks fool around with the World, regardless os gas prices (otherwhise, London would have been spared).
lottube 2 years ago
One person drive a machine that has only 20%~30% energy efficiency. I understand if I am hauling something, but for daily commute to work? Tell me if everybody in the world live like the automobile-America, the earth will not go to hell in less than a month.
merakhagen 2 years ago 2
If you live in a dense area, you could bike or walk or even take crappy transit. However, if you live in a decent house with a garden, a yard and some privacy, i doubt that transit will ever be efficient. Therefore, tons of Park-and-Ride schemes make more sense than raging war on the car.
lottube 2 years ago
I do not want to wage war against cars, I will wage war against American's mentally that everything is plentiful, including land and fuel. I will never understand why Wal-mart, Target, Home Depot, Lowes - all have these "one floor" shopping building. So most suburban shopping mall has to be size of 20 football fields. What? We Americans do not like to climb stairs or take elevators?
merakhagen 2 years ago 10
It's called cost-reduction. Land cost little (US have 1/3 of European Union-15 population and 2.4 times the area), and is FAR easier to keep stocks in shops if they're just one floor (think about moving the items, not the people). A multi-story supermarket would also require A LOT of lifts and passages, due to safety regulations.
lottube 2 years ago
WTF?
jengolf 2 years ago
Then try to do a month grocery errand on a bike, or to go to a meeting with a client on a suit, or to buy anything weighing more than 40 lbs... Public Transit have its space, but cars are needed too... You cannot life comfortably riding only in a bike and/or P.T.
lottube 2 years ago
The largest drawback to 9th Avenue is the light timing. They are not timed to the bike, but the car. It may be safer, but you start and stop about every 3 short NYC blocks.
BikeFriendlyBrad 2 years ago
I live in Copenhagen (shown in most of the pictures) and I ride my bike 99% of the time. It takes no time and gives you a sence of freedom like nothing else.
I only take the public transportation if I have to go further than 15-20 km.
I have had some americans staying, who borrowed bikes, and they too loved the many bikelanes in Copenhagen. So go on New York, get some more bikelanes, its worth it.
MeningsMod 3 years ago 16
Dude. Which point is completely irrelevant?
ahoy4444 3 years ago
There is a separated bike lane in West Seattle and it works like a charm. I love it; the biggest problem then becomes PEDESTRIANS that want to use the lane even though it's marked as a bike lane. Dodging pedestrians is usually safer than cars though.
The "normal" bike lanes in downtown mean I take the lane rather than use the facilities provided to me. The biggest downside is I usually have to SLOW DOWN to get through the city when this happens... the cars are just too slow.
nipponoholic 3 years ago
Yeah, but hitting them is even more fun.!
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
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I am all for this, but, most of these cyclists do not even wear a helmet...
ahoy4444 3 years ago
...so why do you care if we wear helmets or not??
Dershnof 3 years ago
Do you believe that society and the state have no say at all in your/our collective safety or do you think that's just a part of the nanny society? Most serious cyclists wear helmets and so do their children which is the law in many places. On one level perhaps I should not care, but will you not become dependent on the rest of US as in me if you require constant medical attention for thirty years of vegetative existence?
ahoy4444 3 years ago
But here is my question..why do you care as to wheather or not we wear helments?? Jua=st go about your happy little lives and we will do the same. That annoys me so much sometimes I swear.
Dershnof 3 years ago
Safe cycling requires a good bike, surface conditions, biking skills and a helmet. Why would some who want the first 2 (or 3?) conditions make fun of the 4th? My boys wear theirs all the time-and ride defensively. We should show only riders wearing helmets and encourage children to wear theirs--it's the law where I live.I value protecting my skull--but I have a lot at stake in my happy little life. I hope you do in your happy little skull-- and life.
ahoy4444 3 years ago
Dude. Your point is completely irrelevant.
anarchocyclist 3 years ago 2
I'm all for this. It would certainly encourage more people to ride and it would get my mom to shut up about the dangers of riding my bike.
LoveToday8 3 years ago 2
I like my bike..........lol
bleedinghm 3 years ago
I wish every city would be like this...it would mean more trees more parking...
Put trees up in the buffer with little crosswalks and trashcans.
I don't even ride a bike!
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coldraptor 3 years ago
FOUND on MAILING LIST: How does it get swept?, cleared of snow? It treats bicycles as non-vehicles and encourages the more dangerous
separated behavior over the integrated behavior. Reduced visibility at the most dangerous points, intersections (60%+ of all
motor vehicle/bicycle crashes.) Making safe left turns with traffic almost impossible. Under current State law, local jurisdictions could "require" bikes use them,even if the rider feels safe riding with traffic. (reply?)
thezoed 3 years ago
When you do this, you get the pedestrians busting your balls in the middle of your lane immediately!!!!
herbassguitar 3 years ago
So you have your seperate bike lane, which is fine. When you want to progress straight ahead. What happens at intersections? What about side roads crossing the bike lane? You can't completely eliminate interaction with traffic and I think the more you reduce it, via segregation, the less patient and less knowledgeable drivers become when dealing with cyclists. Sod the bike lines. Get the cyclists on the road. Get the cyclists the respect they deserve. Get more people out of cars and onto bikes.
eddobrain 3 years ago
dude, totally wrong.
So why dont we destroy the pedestrian lanes too, making it at the same level of the street?
sheriffes 3 years ago
No, he's not "totally wrong", he's actually completely right.
DSlam699 3 years ago
Opening car doors are not a problem if you are taking proper lane position (yes, take the lane) at least one metre from parked cars. Be visible, be predictable, take a course, learn how to ride in traffic.
If you've taken the lane you also have some maneurverability.
The problem with the seperated lane scheme is that it only LOOKS safe. It is not actually any safer than Effective Cycling (ie riding correctly in traffic.)
DSlam699 3 years ago
Hey, my class and me are doing a project in our class and we trying to get bike lanes. In our town, we need them!!!! I was wondering if you had any advice to give me? thanks.
guitarguy124 3 years ago
Organize with other cyclists into an advocacy coalition/association. Focus on improving and implementing the bicycle master plan or other planning document in your municipality that speaks to bicycle transportation planning.
BayBoy7 3 years ago
I think this is a great thing. There needs to be more protection for bikers. Just like cars, bikes have a stopping distance much longer than expected. You can't stop on a dime, these quick events, doors opening, cars turning, ect can cause accidents. Cycling is a great option for everybody, and I'm sure it will be more popular if it was safer.
XholdstillX 3 years ago 2
Great! My gf and I just bought two bikes and thinking of going to work by them. However, the traffic is really scary. If drivers and cyclists can learn to respect each other. This could be a great city to ride bike and make it greener.
scubageorge 3 years ago 2
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Good idea... now I can just get run over by a bike when I get out of my car instead of just stepping on some dogshit on the sidewalk.
RockinTimbz 3 years ago
Of course, you could always - I don't know - LOOK before you get out of your car. You know, PAY ATTENTION to your surroundings. Of course, if you are currently having problems seeing dogshit [sic] on the sidewalk (not known for its ambulatory properties) then you likely have other problems.
umlud 3 years ago 3
Typical driver response.
dutchmazz 3 years ago
Typical yuppie responses.
RockinTimbz 3 years ago
this all sounds great. i'm glad there are people who care this much about this problem. but i can't believe it didn't mention the problem with dooring.
crimeinchoir 3 years ago
You didn't watch well enough. We show someone nearly get doored, when talking about problems. When talking about the lanes it is shown how good separated facilities keep you out of the door zone. Maybe we didn't do a full presentation, but it is mixed in there.
StreetfilmsVlog 3 years ago
A mini-sledgehammer in a quiver does have a nice deterrent effect on drivers out on the streets out there.
BayBoy7 4 years ago
Untill you get the optimized bikelanes, equip the bikes with a large hammer.
Here you'd get a licence remark for cardriving in the bike lane. 3 remarks takes your licence for 1$ year. Driving a truck in the bikelane takes the licence right away.
Griffencph 4 years ago
Ok, th 1$ year is the macintosh way of writing 1 1/2 year. Sorry
Griffencph 4 years ago
I know a guy in Oakland who's a wannabe stuntman, he stages accidents and 'ghost rides' one of his 'beater bikes' into the back of cars that double park in bike lanes. Most of the time the dumb dunce driver is picking up dry cleaning or something, and they leave their vehicle unattended. Par for the course I guess. I like clowns better though.
BayBoy7 4 years ago
Whoever forces tanks with bad sight and hearing into one lane with halftransparent wirevehicles takes injuries into account or needs care.
Arfurt 4 years ago
wtf?
BayBoy7 4 years ago
maybe if cyclers actually STOP at the red lights, us walkers would actually care.
just2w4tch 4 years ago
Which cyclists are have the best mobility and the lowest crash rates?
The cyclists who learn to use the rules of the road and ride with traffic, or those who look to the bike lane and segregation?
This question has never been asked and no study has ever been conducted to find the answer, although it would be very simple to do. Obviously, we do not want the answer.
David Smith
bicycledriver1 4 years ago
I'd like the answer. I can't figure it out myself.
Not that it's nescessary in a country where cycklists are supposed to know the rules too. We separate cycklists in "those who read the traffic" and "those who learned that everybody else must take care of bikes".
The last group dies or get beaten up.
Griffencph 4 years ago
Should we even be having this sort of study? Why not just install bike lanes intelligently and be done with it. People who park/drive cars in the bike lane will be ticket, fined, towed, etc, and people who bike in traffic (when a bike lane is present) will likewise be ticketed, fined, bike confiscated, etc.
umlud 3 years ago
Hey there umlud, I'm legally allowed to exit the bike lane to pass slower cyclists here in the Golden State. Realize that unless we would have omnipresent metermaids, we wouldn't "be done with it." Fucktards would still park their cages there and game the system. Did I catch you suggesting bike confiscation, you WillieBrownesque totalitarian fascistic piece of shit!
BayBoy7 3 years ago
the idea of FORCING cyclists to ride in a poorly designed bike lane (ie one that forces them too close to parked cars so they can get the Door Prize) just because the bike lane is there is extremely evil, wrongheaded, ignorant, stupid, and dangerous.
DSlam699 3 years ago
A cyclist can follow all the rules of the road, be observant and aware of their surroundings, and STILL get killed by a bad driver.
CaaaahS 3 years ago 2
We have a little drive along a winding road where bikers (I, myself, included) enjoy riding. There is enough road to ride single file but most of the time you will see two to three bikes abreast. This place has a 50 mph speed limit. Sure enough someone was going 50 around one of the curves and ran over two bikers. The driver of the car survived.
luckylynn52 4 years ago
I like the barriers because it separates the bike from the other traffic. Cars don't behave like bikes; bikes don't behave like cars. If you are waiting for everyone to stop running lights, talking on their cell phones, etc., good luck. There are just some places I won't go on my bike, some places I can ride with the traffic, and some where I have to behave like half bike/half ped in order to be safe.
luckylynn52 4 years ago
For the longest time cyclists have had a "share the road" mentality where bikes should be able to have the same freedom as cars and trucks and do this on the same piece of road. One of my cyclist customers had this same view until a little ole lady ran over him while he was making a left turn from the left turn lane at an intersection. He won the arguement in court but lost the arguement with the bumper of her car.
luckylynn52 4 years ago
until a kid gets killed, nothing is going to be done. i dont understand why they can separate all bike lanes with a concrete island.
crihsshirc 4 years ago
Good idea. Now will you bikers please obey the same traffic laws other's do, like stop at stop lights, stop signs, signalling.
ibilldavis 4 years ago
Maybe when I don't feel like I'm going to get run over at every corner.
alanhowitzer 4 years ago
Maybe car drivers can also stop running red lights, speeding , car drivers ignore the laws of the road as much as anyone else, thing is ... cars are lethal machines that murder innocent people each and every day.
urbanmanc 4 years ago 2
Yes car drivers run red lights, blow stop signs, but not even at the fraction of bikers.
ibilldavis 4 years ago
Yes car drivers do run red lights, blow stop signs, but not even at the fraction of bikers.
ibilldavis 4 years ago
im loving this.
zakmal 4 years ago
All the bike lanes here in China are physically separate from the traffic, often with beautiful tree lines and shaded ways. Part of the reason I moved here was to escape car hell, USA.
heituzi 4 years ago
Solid reasoning. Damn traffic, I'm moving to a communist state. Why didn't I think of that?
mrflippant 4 years ago
I think that New York City should create barrier between bicyclists, pedestrians, and drivers. Also, in secondary tier cities like Milwaukee it would be nice if they would have separate bicycle lanes with barriers throughout the city. Even in small cities like Waukesha, Wisconsin it would be nice to have bicycle lanes with physical barriers throughout the city.
DEATHBYFLYINGCDS 4 years ago
America is so confused ohhhhhhh i have been in NYC i like it but in a thath big syty i felt so much lonely there everybodi is in a hurry it`s a HOUSE :) greetings from Europe,Bulgaia,Varna
kkkc100 4 years ago
Sidewalk, bikelane, a narrow physical barrier, parking, cars - that's how it is in almost every town in Germany. And it works very well! In Karlsruhe we also have bikelanes painted in red among the normal lanes, which doesn't work so well but gives the town a good income on fines.
andreasfreckenfeld 4 years ago
watch this:/watch?v=VnY_cLFwjFY
belzeboz 4 years ago
Couldn't agree more...take a look at Bogota or Copenhagen.
calvinjones 4 years ago
Who do we write to to support this idea?
UglyPlanet 4 years ago
Read my article "DIY Geurrilla Bike Lanes, Sharrows, and Separated Bike Lanes" on Fixpert, unfortunately YouTube won't let me post a link to it, but I'll try to put a readable version here if you're interested:
fixpert . com/bike-lane/separated-bike-lanes-diy/
fixpert 4 years ago
GO PHYSICALLY SEPEARTED BIKE LANES!!! Love the idea!
AliKhan567 4 years ago
Hey "TheSniperEyes"
You need to learn English also, Einstein!
"Yes! And I hate that! You need to learn English before writing! Man darai geda su tokiom klaidom!!! "In Lithuania there is a bigger problem, here there is NO bike lanes in the streets and buses are very dangerous for people... :("
Whats a bike line? a line for cyclists to ride on?
Its "Bike Lane"!
jazznumber1 4 years ago
Bravo!
philsh11 4 years ago
In Lithuania is bigger problam, here is NO bike line in streets and a buses are very dangeorouse for peoples.. :(
justnio 4 years ago
Yes! And i h8 that! You need to learn English before writing! Man darai geda su tokiom klaidom!!! "In Lithuania there is a bigger problem, here is NO bike lines in the streets and buses are very dangerous for people... :("
TheSniperEyes 4 years ago
Atsiprašau, bet aš dar mokaus! Šiaip ne vien tik lietuviai rašo su klaidom... Tu pažvelk kaip argentiniečiai komentuoja...
justnio 4 years ago
I think the way to fix the problems described with left turns, signalling, and pedestrians would be to set up elevated bikeways on the busiest crosstown streets, like Houston street for example.
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tomcatfranks 4 years ago
Bravo, great thinkig and ideas, I totaly support this stuff.
Boysetsfire757 4 years ago
wow !!! thats a really good idea !!
carlajanette 4 years ago
I ride a bicycle everywhere -- check out my channel and you'll see why. It's FAR more healthy than climbing into a fucking car and being carried around place to place without an ounce of effort required.
Bicycle lanes EVERYWHERE are needed. When these Christofascists fight over oil and drive the prices up, bicycles will take over again anyway.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago
ql video!
k0cka 4 years ago
io nn cò capito nulla!
Julyaskina 4 years ago
im a motorcycle courier , i have a question.
If you have all of these seperated bike lanes, how long do you think there get before being abused with people, who add engines to there bycycles ,, i think you all know what im talking about.
Or people speeding to fast for the cycle lane ?
And 1 more thing, dont hate cars or trucks, its trucks who bring the bikes to the shops lol , j/k
bikersrule07 4 years ago
Riding a bike is so much more efficient than driving a car. And for those who complain about having to ride a bike as it being to hard, get off your ass and do something besides driving, and you'll see it's not that hard.
oreo4president 4 years ago
good luck nyc
london's not quite as good as you make out tho ;)
comradejo 4 years ago