John Piper - TULIP - Irresistible Grace 2of3

[brbhatta]

This is unbelievable to hear from Piper to say that don't believe what the says in what it says but put your own presuppositions to mean it what it should say. So, I should throw away the text that says "believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved" because I don't have to take that as it says because it is not what it says!!! Amazing distortion of the Bible!

[MrCharrrles]

@brbhatta so you're saying that you were able, under your own will and strength to believe in Jesus and thats how you got saved? If thats true then you could brag about how much faith you have