...there was also the foundations of what was then a partially reconstructed Temple, the Third Temple, started under Persian Rule century before. Jews still constituted the majority of the population and only fell into minority during Crusader Era.
Hateloverxx: The land was never bereft of Jews,. When Khalifa 'Umar's generals took control of Jerusalem, after the Byzantine Patriarch opened its gates in bloodless syrrender, it was three rabbis who were forced to show the Arab interlopers the Temple Mount. Aside from the Byzantine Church that stood atop the Mount
...in the same geographical region as Khazaria. Ashkenaz Jewry on the other habd has been subjected to literally hundreds of genetic tests, nearly all of which conclusively prove that they are in fact directly in the Levant. Ignorance abd hatwe are never pretty.
The semi-retarded "Khazar" nonsense has no basis in reality. Genetic Science has shown absolutely no link between ANY Jewish grouping and the Khazars. However, one need only look to the Crimean Karaites who not only posses such a proven genetic link, but actually speak a Turkic Language that originated in u
mindless psychotic warmongering. The Rabbi standing up points out that Zionism is what caused all the bloodshed in the middle-east and what continues to cause all the wars. He is saying that he has no problem living with the Arabs and that he has no romanticized psychotic reason to go after Arabs and defend an ethno-religious supremacy for Khazars, especially when the Torah says Jews cannot have a state. Jews are also not a nation, just a religion accepted by various nomads and medieval kings
Hitler was 1/4 Jewish and financed by the Rothshilds..!! the Rothshilds are responsible for the Shoah wich they financed through oither jewish amrican bansters !! that is reality !!
R. Yitzhak doesn't base what he says on scripture. His own sect say it, so it is right. He then mentions Hitler, ignoring that the Jews who supported Hitler were model Zionists. Also, if some Jews hadn't inflamed the Fuhrer (by constantly heckling & provoking him), if they had all abased themselves, Hitler would've had no excuse to persecute them. Then he makes the ahistorical, baseless claim that diaspora Jews will be exterminated first, then claims God has spoken in his favour. He's quite mad.
@hatloverxxx The vast majority of Jews that Hitler murdered were Polish Jews, who have never stepped foot in Germany, lived completely in poverty within shtetls. Scripture? Scripture states that every single Jewish state that existed prior to the Diaspora had a problem with keeping many Jews abiding to Law. This is the same situation going on in Israel. What differs modern Israel from Ancient Israel, as a state? Absolutely nothing. Jews were most abiding in the diaspora and yet they were hated.
- Anc. Israel had religious constit., modern Israel is secular.
- Shekinah, an actual light, dwelt in anc. Isr. - Mod. Isr.? dream on.
- Anc. Isr. was waiting 4 God 2 send Messiah. Mod. Isr. dont care bout Messiah / try 2 create one (Messianics, Lubavitch.).
- God gifted anc. Isr. 4 religious Hebrews. Zio-Atheists purchased mod. Isr. from Ottomans, expanded it by killing Muslims who regarded the Jew. prophets as holy.
@hatloverxxx Modern Israel is by no means secular. Nobody knows that Israel only allows religious marriages. For instance, I was not allowed to get married in Israel until I provided proof (birth certificate or Ktuba) that says "JEW" on it. I thought this was ridiculous but Israel is what it is. If I was not able to provide this proof the Rabbis wanted to convert me. I told them I would rather leave Israel than be converted to something I already AM.
@snatch147at85 Most of the ancient Israel's army was religious. Today, the army in Israel is 80% religious. In ancient Israel, there was a religious court, in Israel there is a religious court. There is also a secular court. But the same can be said about any really really religious christian country. Ancient Israel thought that the moshiach came 20 times already (not kidding you). In modern Israel, everybody still foolishly thinks the time is soon.
@snatch147at85 God gifted anc. Isr. 4 religious Hebrews. This statement is not true. God gave the land to the Hebrews. The Hebrews consisted of many ethnic groups. God commanded the Hebrews to keep the Torah but never said that if you didn't keep it the land was not yours. FOr example, Judea kept the torah. What do you think Jew, Jude means? It means Judeans. Israel (the kingdom of Israel, not Judeah) did not keep the torah. They still lived on that land for a long time. MOdern Jews are Judeans.
@snatch147at85 KIlling muslims for land? I would say that the statistics overwhelmingly show that there was a far greater tension between the christian arabs and the Jews.
@snatch147at85 to conclude: I don't have a real problem with atheism, and certainly not with secularism (l am secularist). But hypocrisy (blood-n-soil materialism masquerading as a divine covenant) is repugnant, especially when it's on this scale, with nukes, hi-tech weaponry, dead babies. Eesh.
Just to emphasise: you can't replace the shekinah with a light bulb.
@snatch147at85 "Messiah didn't arrive, he didn't even call" lyrics from an [israeli?] song a Jewish girl once told me. Seems typical of the mindset of Zio-Atheism.
It's highly likely that God would insist that the Tribes keep the faith, don't you think? Blood-n-soil materialism (precursor of Zio-Atheism) caused them to try to kill Messiah for daring to bring God back into the equation. Hence they were scattered, Jew or Lost Tribes, all scattered for blood-n-soil materialism.
@snatch147at85 So, ancient Israel in its ailing phases is very much like modern Israel, i'll give you that (blood-n-soil materialism / Zio-Atheism), but that's hardly a concession.
My other points in the "- " list remain unanswered, i reckon. And you cannot deny that the development of the Zionist state at end of British mandate involved huge persecution of Muslim Arabs, but i'll concede, it was Arabs of Palestine, Christian or Muslim. My point is still true though.
@hatloverxxx Oh, the 48 war? Both sides were fighting against each other prior to the war....little nuance battles. I believe the casualties were something like 350 vs 370. It wasn't until during the war that you would see numbers like 1450 vs 1500. Although the casualties (Jew vs Arab respectively) were similar, the Jewish side had a far smaller reserve. The war was fought with equal armies, but the arab army had a much much bigger reserve.
@snatch147at85 It was even noted by the Arab diplomat to Britain that Jews were fools. They were fighting a war where Jewish villages were largely surrounded by arab villages. Essentially, this means that whenever Jews tried to deliver weapons to another Jewish village, arabs would destroy the truck. They were always on the defensive. It wasn't until at the end of the war that Jews started to retaliate and decided that whichever arab villages attacked first, were to be taken into Israel.
@snatch147at85 The idea that Jews were rounding up innocent people left and right is wrong. It was impossible for them to do so geographically and statistically. Did the stern gang kill innocent people? I would have no doubt that they did. Did arab legions from Jordan attack and kill religious Jews within Israel? Yes, and no one hides that. This is exactly why Benny Morris argues the army should have kicked every arab family out. He argues that because the army only attacked when they were
@snatch147at85 attacked, it led to the refugee problem. Almost a million arabs were still residing in the country that was not awarded in 1947. Who were these arabs? Villages who chose not to attack the israeli army. Who attacked the Israeli army? Mostly syrians, iraqis and Jordan (some lebanese). Egypt interestingly didn't fight the war seriously. I have this feeling Egypt never truly cared and it would make sense since they are not truly arab in the sense of a historical perspective.
@snatch147at85 Modern Israel is secular, judging by the way the cops beat up haredis, the presence of neo-Nazi groups, the porn industry etc. There are moves by haredi political groups to make israel more religious, but ultimately this is a concession, not a usurping of the secular state.
I gather that most Prophets, inc. Messiah, were maligned in ancient Israel, at least at start of mission. This is the same mindset of Zio-Atheism though, not "Ancient Israel" per se.
@hatloverxxx Neo Nazi groups? You mean a few russians who were given partial citizenship who lied about their heritage? There are barely any, probably most in ashdod. Porn industry? What modern day country doesn't have a porn industry? Even Iran has a porn industry. Haredi is just a group, it is about 15%. People in Israel don't particularly like them because of their views. They believe the holocaust happened because that is what god wanted. It's no different between Shiite vs Sunni.
@snatch147at85 Messiah = Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Hasids were all anti-Zionist to begin with. Zionism = the political movement associated with Herzl. Yes ok it was also associated with medieval Jewish Kurd Solomon ben Duji, but point is: It's about "return w/o Messiah". None of the early Hasidic dynasties promulgated it, it was anathema. Also, you cited "shtetlism", well, barriers come down, maybe Satmar feel hi-pressure is good way 2 communicate with other Jews, so what?
@hatloverxxx there were a lot of hasidic jews who moved to Palestine a long time ago. These were ashkenazi hasidic jews. They weren't against building a Jewsh state per se but they also could not have such ideas because the Ottoman empire owned the area. Christ is a european conception. He never intended what he has become in the modern age, but neither is modern judaism. Christ was the first chabad hasid in my opinion. Note that christ said he comes not to break one jewish law. satmar what?
@snatch147at85 Jews moved back 2 Palest. soon as Umar ibn al Khattab conquered Jerus. l think, c. 1,300 years ago, b4 Hassidism. I insist they were against building Jewish state - it couldn't be done w/o Messiah, & how will they recreate holy light manifest in the Temple, how will they build temple built by spirit labourers etc. Porn industry etc. etc. And Ottomans sold them a "parcel" of land - major incentive, but it was the Zionists bought, distinct group, not Hasidim. Simple.
@snatch147at85 Why did the Arabs suddenly attack the Jews? The Muslims were the ones who broke the Christian ban on Jews re-settling in Palestine about 1,300 years ago. In all that time, no problem. You have to admit the Zionists Jews weren't weak & helpless - via Frankism, wealthy financiers, etc., they had amassed fortunes, & they even had a few guns to share out. Neo-Nazis - the problem isn't dead in Israel, & Zio-Atheism & Nazism both share the blood-n-soil materialist ethic.
@snatch147at85 there is NO solution to the conflict as long Nazi zionists rule the world !! but they will be taken care of soon.. very soon.. and they know it !! Long live Rabbi Weiss the anti zionist rabbi from Neturei Karta !!! the only true jews !!
@snatch147at85 Many of the Neo-Nazis were halachic Jews, & you gotta admit the "fake" Jews must have had deeeeeep roots to move to Israel & start all that sieg heil stuff. Nah, they were Jews, not fakes. Porn Industry - the point is Israel must in no way can be like a "modern day country" - it's meant to be a holy Prophet-King Utopia. As for Iran etc. - no country on earth has a truly religious constitution - but only Israel uses a divine covenant as its raison d'etre. Hypocrisy.
@hatloverxxx No clue what this is about. Halachic Jew can mean anything. Are you basing these ideas off of the aramaic writings or just stuff translated to english?
@hatloverxxx Zionists who supported Hitler, merely supported him to grant asylum for Jews in Palestine. In reality, Hitler never sent (if any) Jews to Palestine and thus never gave them a chance to survive. Note that Hitler began to round up Algerian and Morrocan Jews during the end of the war. What do Jews from North Africa have to do with Europe? The very first Jews he ordered to kill in Poland were big Rabbis. Hatlover none of this is a coincidence.
@snatch147at85 Google free book "Holocaust Victims Accuse" - Zio. were into Hitler. It'd look odd if personally sent them to Pal., mayb thats y he didnt. N. Africa - there was Aliya in there. Maybe Zio. thought ends justify means.
The dead? Poor, prob. mostly Jewish Sufis (Khassids), spiritual, antithesis of Zio-Atheism. There's religious Zios. today, just as there's atheist priests in Holland today. Still, Zionists were widely condemned as atheists, "servants of Satan" (quote).
@hatloverxxx In History, context is always key. The majority of hasidic judaism was against maintaining/starting the state of Israel. Non-hasidic Jews were not. Where is the context? Even after the war, hasidic Jews didn't want to emigrate to Israel because they couldn't reproduce shtetl life in the area. Zionists were merely communists who wanted to build collectives in Palestine. In Palestine there were 2 communist parties: one Jewish and one Arab. I am not kidding you whatsoever.
@snatch147at85 Hasidic Jews didn't see a collective way of life as Judaism. One needs to understand that Shtetlism (as I call it) was a new form of Judaism only available in the deep villages of Poland. Hasidic Jews all disagree with themselves. There are tens of sects within Hasidism.
@snatch147at85 Yes i know the Jews & Arabs both had communist parties. Hasids were all, & still mostly are, anti-Zio, hence any poss. reluctance to go to Israel, altho i'd concede shtetl life as a reason, because the first big communities pre-zionism were hasids who lived in peace with arabs, so i think many are still happy to go to israel, so maybe no shtetl life is a more legit objection.
Entropy explains sects, revival recreates unity, both cyclic.
@hatloverxxx Hasids were never anti-zio. This is a huge misconception. Hasidic groups argued that zionism is necessary but it's unnecessary to create a Jewish state that allows secular Jews to be secular. Hasidics are a bit crazy in this respect specifically the Satmar because Jews NEVER EVER forced other Jews to be observant. This is the first time in history the Satmar group is doing this.
No peace for yahuds, untill all submit to the will of Allah, yahuds are the most dumbest nation in the whole world, they wer chosen by Allah.
but they choose the wordly pleasure.
the only way to bring them back to there Creator and to make them slave to this Magnificent Creator, called the Only One worthy of Worship, without partners.
is with fear, because stupid people understand only violence, and violence creates fear
it doesnt have to be like this, but u jews love to be terrorized
@TheToilet911 You don't have to be Pro-Neturei Karta to go against Secularism. I'm against secular, socialism, Gay parades because I'm a Religious Zionist and we religious Zionist fight against the secularism . Don't worry slowly Israel's religious population increased now in 2012, the religious Jewish population is 27% and we will slowly with Hashem's will become more religious. G-d punishes suicide bombers. Watch your own secular Muslims who go against the Quran and drink before watching us.
@ProudSephardic "Suicide Bombing" its not realy suicide is Kidush HaShem, we sacrefice our bodies, then sell our Souls to Allah, in order to bring fear into the hearts of the ungreatful nation of yahudistan.israel court doesnt work, this is why we sent the jewih souls to the court of heaven by seperating the soul from body. if you dont fight democracy in israel, hamas will fight for the religious jews. Inshallah.
Also pride comes before fall. I learned in Proverbs.
@TheToilet911 Suicide is absolutely haram. Don't even think of it, l think the traditions say that you won't even get a hearing before being sent to hell.
@hatloverxxx smoking is suicide, smoking surly will kill you, you seem like a hypocrite you will never admit your foolishness, just to protect your ego, i wish you good luck in your life iam out here.
@jeddawy87 The English translation is in the video description above. BTW: Neturei Karta is only 300 members, the smallest and only Hasidic sect against Israel, the rest of religious Orthodox Jews are supporters of Zionism and Israel. Shalom
This is a man you respect? A man who is part of a cult that cheers on and meets with your enemies? Whether you agree with their logic or not, there is definitely a much better way to go about it. Chanting with the arabs at an israeli day parade would definitely not be the best way to do it, btw. They have made a total chillul Hashem. If i were you, I would seriously reconsider the type of people I had respect for. As an orthodox Jew, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Neturei Karta can not be supported in thier recognition of a Palestinian Nation, however the Jewish people must become more Torah observant and recognize that Religious zionism was what got the ball rolling and it was these pioneers that made the land come alive with produce again. Hertzel was a disgrace to Judaism and it was after, that he and the seculars poured into the land. It is what it is but NOW THESE SECULAR, ATHESTIC, NON OBSERVANT INGRATES must recognize TRUE ZIONISM. But they wont.
Duh.. whatever you say. But you know that many Jews from Iran and the surrounding area fled to Khazaria and married some (real orthodox converts) of the Kuzarim?
@Lynxz Hahaha Did you forget that when Arabs and Jews were fighting along side and beat the Christians, you betrayed us by massacring us across Damascus, Dayr Al-Qamar, Alexandria, Jerusalem 1847, Jaffa 1920, Hebron Massacre 1929, Safed Massacre. Don't ignore that Islamist Terrorist scum. G-d will deal with you and your ignorance.
@cbbnkuk No he doesn't the Neturei Karta are sewing hate for themselves, separating Jews, causing hate between us and this is exactly what Rabbi Yitzhak was trying to say. NK has caused so many secular Jews to hate Haredim because they think we are all like them, yet true Hasids like Breslov teach Jews with LOVE about the Torah with dances and have brought so many secular Jews closer to Judaism like Rabbi Yitzhak. Meanwhile the NK and Satmar despises Sephardic culture, make violent protests etc
In the book of Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven ( Yehovah) set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, [but] it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Yehoshuah (Jesus) will be the head of this kingdom wich will come soon .
Follow him othewise will be to late for your life.
description above doesn't say everything that was said, i can here words like Morrocco,Tunisia
SouthernCross33 1 day ago
Healthy looking specimens aren't they? And they say they're "gods chosen ones" what was he thinking?
SouthernCross33 1 day ago
The Best Response to those IDIOTS of Naturei Karta!
Ramuzz7 1 week ago
בבקשה תראו את סרטוני
שורש הרוע בעולם ותיקונו
כשאנו *הוגים בתורה אנו בוראים את *הגוים
הגוים נבראים בצלם בוראיהם - היהודים הלומדים תורה
אם אנחנו לא בשמחה ובמוחין גדלות כשאנו לומדים תורה, הגוים הנבראים כתוצאה ישירה מלימודינו פגומים ובעלי מומים, במיוחד בלב. הם שונאינו
SilverRedIndigo 1 week ago
...there was also the foundations of what was then a partially reconstructed Temple, the Third Temple, started under Persian Rule century before. Jews still constituted the majority of the population and only fell into minority during Crusader Era.
jonlylyjon 2 weeks ago
Hateloverxx: The land was never bereft of Jews,. When Khalifa 'Umar's generals took control of Jerusalem, after the Byzantine Patriarch opened its gates in bloodless syrrender, it was three rabbis who were forced to show the Arab interlopers the Temple Mount. Aside from the Byzantine Church that stood atop the Mount
jonlylyjon 2 weeks ago
...in the same geographical region as Khazaria. Ashkenaz Jewry on the other habd has been subjected to literally hundreds of genetic tests, nearly all of which conclusively prove that they are in fact directly in the Levant. Ignorance abd hatwe are never pretty.
jonlylyjon 2 weeks ago
The semi-retarded "Khazar" nonsense has no basis in reality. Genetic Science has shown absolutely no link between ANY Jewish grouping and the Khazars. However, one need only look to the Crimean Karaites who not only posses such a proven genetic link, but actually speak a Turkic Language that originated in u
jonlylyjon 2 weeks ago 2
mindless psychotic warmongering. The Rabbi standing up points out that Zionism is what caused all the bloodshed in the middle-east and what continues to cause all the wars. He is saying that he has no problem living with the Arabs and that he has no romanticized psychotic reason to go after Arabs and defend an ethno-religious supremacy for Khazars, especially when the Torah says Jews cannot have a state. Jews are also not a nation, just a religion accepted by various nomads and medieval kings
yobouysway 3 weeks ago
i would love english subtitles.
johnknoefler 4 weeks ago
Hitler was 1/4 Jewish and financed by the Rothshilds..!! the Rothshilds are responsible for the Shoah wich they financed through oither jewish amrican bansters !! that is reality !!
PiMagh 1 month ago
Hebrew is so close to Arabic.
jubani93 1 month ago
@jubani93 same region of the world. like italian is close to spanish.
enuvune 1 month ago
R. Yitzhak doesn't base what he says on scripture. His own sect say it, so it is right. He then mentions Hitler, ignoring that the Jews who supported Hitler were model Zionists. Also, if some Jews hadn't inflamed the Fuhrer (by constantly heckling & provoking him), if they had all abased themselves, Hitler would've had no excuse to persecute them. Then he makes the ahistorical, baseless claim that diaspora Jews will be exterminated first, then claims God has spoken in his favour. He's quite mad.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx The vast majority of Jews that Hitler murdered were Polish Jews, who have never stepped foot in Germany, lived completely in poverty within shtetls. Scripture? Scripture states that every single Jewish state that existed prior to the Diaspora had a problem with keeping many Jews abiding to Law. This is the same situation going on in Israel. What differs modern Israel from Ancient Israel, as a state? Absolutely nothing. Jews were most abiding in the diaspora and yet they were hated.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Diff. tween mod. Israel & anc. Israel:
- Anc. Israel had religious constit., modern Israel is secular.
- Shekinah, an actual light, dwelt in anc. Isr. - Mod. Isr.? dream on.
- Anc. Isr. was waiting 4 God 2 send Messiah. Mod. Isr. dont care bout Messiah / try 2 create one (Messianics, Lubavitch.).
- God gifted anc. Isr. 4 religious Hebrews. Zio-Atheists purchased mod. Isr. from Ottomans, expanded it by killing Muslims who regarded the Jew. prophets as holy.
etc.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx Modern Israel is by no means secular. Nobody knows that Israel only allows religious marriages. For instance, I was not allowed to get married in Israel until I provided proof (birth certificate or Ktuba) that says "JEW" on it. I thought this was ridiculous but Israel is what it is. If I was not able to provide this proof the Rabbis wanted to convert me. I told them I would rather leave Israel than be converted to something I already AM.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Most of the ancient Israel's army was religious. Today, the army in Israel is 80% religious. In ancient Israel, there was a religious court, in Israel there is a religious court. There is also a secular court. But the same can be said about any really really religious christian country. Ancient Israel thought that the moshiach came 20 times already (not kidding you). In modern Israel, everybody still foolishly thinks the time is soon.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 God gifted anc. Isr. 4 religious Hebrews. This statement is not true. God gave the land to the Hebrews. The Hebrews consisted of many ethnic groups. God commanded the Hebrews to keep the Torah but never said that if you didn't keep it the land was not yours. FOr example, Judea kept the torah. What do you think Jew, Jude means? It means Judeans. Israel (the kingdom of Israel, not Judeah) did not keep the torah. They still lived on that land for a long time. MOdern Jews are Judeans.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 KIlling muslims for land? I would say that the statistics overwhelmingly show that there was a far greater tension between the christian arabs and the Jews.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
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hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 to conclude: I don't have a real problem with atheism, and certainly not with secularism (l am secularist). But hypocrisy (blood-n-soil materialism masquerading as a divine covenant) is repugnant, especially when it's on this scale, with nukes, hi-tech weaponry, dead babies. Eesh.
Just to emphasise: you can't replace the shekinah with a light bulb.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 "Messiah didn't arrive, he didn't even call" lyrics from an [israeli?] song a Jewish girl once told me. Seems typical of the mindset of Zio-Atheism.
It's highly likely that God would insist that the Tribes keep the faith, don't you think? Blood-n-soil materialism (precursor of Zio-Atheism) caused them to try to kill Messiah for daring to bring God back into the equation. Hence they were scattered, Jew or Lost Tribes, all scattered for blood-n-soil materialism.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx This sounds a lot like a catholic perspective.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 So, ancient Israel in its ailing phases is very much like modern Israel, i'll give you that (blood-n-soil materialism / Zio-Atheism), but that's hardly a concession.
My other points in the "- " list remain unanswered, i reckon. And you cannot deny that the development of the Zionist state at end of British mandate involved huge persecution of Muslim Arabs, but i'll concede, it was Arabs of Palestine, Christian or Muslim. My point is still true though.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx Oh, the 48 war? Both sides were fighting against each other prior to the war....little nuance battles. I believe the casualties were something like 350 vs 370. It wasn't until during the war that you would see numbers like 1450 vs 1500. Although the casualties (Jew vs Arab respectively) were similar, the Jewish side had a far smaller reserve. The war was fought with equal armies, but the arab army had a much much bigger reserve.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 It was even noted by the Arab diplomat to Britain that Jews were fools. They were fighting a war where Jewish villages were largely surrounded by arab villages. Essentially, this means that whenever Jews tried to deliver weapons to another Jewish village, arabs would destroy the truck. They were always on the defensive. It wasn't until at the end of the war that Jews started to retaliate and decided that whichever arab villages attacked first, were to be taken into Israel.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 The idea that Jews were rounding up innocent people left and right is wrong. It was impossible for them to do so geographically and statistically. Did the stern gang kill innocent people? I would have no doubt that they did. Did arab legions from Jordan attack and kill religious Jews within Israel? Yes, and no one hides that. This is exactly why Benny Morris argues the army should have kicked every arab family out. He argues that because the army only attacked when they were
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 attacked, it led to the refugee problem. Almost a million arabs were still residing in the country that was not awarded in 1947. Who were these arabs? Villages who chose not to attack the israeli army. Who attacked the Israeli army? Mostly syrians, iraqis and Jordan (some lebanese). Egypt interestingly didn't fight the war seriously. I have this feeling Egypt never truly cared and it would make sense since they are not truly arab in the sense of a historical perspective.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Modern Israel is secular, judging by the way the cops beat up haredis, the presence of neo-Nazi groups, the porn industry etc. There are moves by haredi political groups to make israel more religious, but ultimately this is a concession, not a usurping of the secular state.
I gather that most Prophets, inc. Messiah, were maligned in ancient Israel, at least at start of mission. This is the same mindset of Zio-Atheism though, not "Ancient Israel" per se.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx Neo Nazi groups? You mean a few russians who were given partial citizenship who lied about their heritage? There are barely any, probably most in ashdod. Porn industry? What modern day country doesn't have a porn industry? Even Iran has a porn industry. Haredi is just a group, it is about 15%. People in Israel don't particularly like them because of their views. They believe the holocaust happened because that is what god wanted. It's no different between Shiite vs Sunni.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 What Messiah are you talking about?
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Messiah = Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Hasids were all anti-Zionist to begin with. Zionism = the political movement associated with Herzl. Yes ok it was also associated with medieval Jewish Kurd Solomon ben Duji, but point is: It's about "return w/o Messiah". None of the early Hasidic dynasties promulgated it, it was anathema. Also, you cited "shtetlism", well, barriers come down, maybe Satmar feel hi-pressure is good way 2 communicate with other Jews, so what?
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx there were a lot of hasidic jews who moved to Palestine a long time ago. These were ashkenazi hasidic jews. They weren't against building a Jewsh state per se but they also could not have such ideas because the Ottoman empire owned the area. Christ is a european conception. He never intended what he has become in the modern age, but neither is modern judaism. Christ was the first chabad hasid in my opinion. Note that christ said he comes not to break one jewish law. satmar what?
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Jews moved back 2 Palest. soon as Umar ibn al Khattab conquered Jerus. l think, c. 1,300 years ago, b4 Hassidism. I insist they were against building Jewish state - it couldn't be done w/o Messiah, & how will they recreate holy light manifest in the Temple, how will they build temple built by spirit labourers etc. Porn industry etc. etc. And Ottomans sold them a "parcel" of land - major incentive, but it was the Zionists bought, distinct group, not Hasidim. Simple.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Why did the Arabs suddenly attack the Jews? The Muslims were the ones who broke the Christian ban on Jews re-settling in Palestine about 1,300 years ago. In all that time, no problem. You have to admit the Zionists Jews weren't weak & helpless - via Frankism, wealthy financiers, etc., they had amassed fortunes, & they even had a few guns to share out. Neo-Nazis - the problem isn't dead in Israel, & Zio-Atheism & Nazism both share the blood-n-soil materialist ethic.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx I would comment on this but I can't e-mail you for some reason. What is your solution to the israeli-arab conflict?
snatch147at85 1 month ago
Solution to Israeli-Arab conflict: As there is no clearly sovereign theocracy, the UN should administer the area.
The UN will have to undergo some major change i.e. it will have to be an institution where Mali has as much right to be heard as Australia etc.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
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hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 i have to go now but i will read any messages later, it would be nice to speak, bye!
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 there is NO solution to the conflict as long Nazi zionists rule the world !! but they will be taken care of soon.. very soon.. and they know it !! Long live Rabbi Weiss the anti zionist rabbi from Neturei Karta !!! the only true jews !!
PiMagh 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Many of the Neo-Nazis were halachic Jews, & you gotta admit the "fake" Jews must have had deeeeeep roots to move to Israel & start all that sieg heil stuff. Nah, they were Jews, not fakes. Porn Industry - the point is Israel must in no way can be like a "modern day country" - it's meant to be a holy Prophet-King Utopia. As for Iran etc. - no country on earth has a truly religious constitution - but only Israel uses a divine covenant as its raison d'etre. Hypocrisy.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx No clue what this is about. Halachic Jew can mean anything. Are you basing these ideas off of the aramaic writings or just stuff translated to english?
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx Zionists who supported Hitler, merely supported him to grant asylum for Jews in Palestine. In reality, Hitler never sent (if any) Jews to Palestine and thus never gave them a chance to survive. Note that Hitler began to round up Algerian and Morrocan Jews during the end of the war. What do Jews from North Africa have to do with Europe? The very first Jews he ordered to kill in Poland were big Rabbis. Hatlover none of this is a coincidence.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Google free book "Holocaust Victims Accuse" - Zio. were into Hitler. It'd look odd if personally sent them to Pal., mayb thats y he didnt. N. Africa - there was Aliya in there. Maybe Zio. thought ends justify means.
The dead? Poor, prob. mostly Jewish Sufis (Khassids), spiritual, antithesis of Zio-Atheism. There's religious Zios. today, just as there's atheist priests in Holland today. Still, Zionists were widely condemned as atheists, "servants of Satan" (quote).
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx In History, context is always key. The majority of hasidic judaism was against maintaining/starting the state of Israel. Non-hasidic Jews were not. Where is the context? Even after the war, hasidic Jews didn't want to emigrate to Israel because they couldn't reproduce shtetl life in the area. Zionists were merely communists who wanted to build collectives in Palestine. In Palestine there were 2 communist parties: one Jewish and one Arab. I am not kidding you whatsoever.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Hasidic Jews didn't see a collective way of life as Judaism. One needs to understand that Shtetlism (as I call it) was a new form of Judaism only available in the deep villages of Poland. Hasidic Jews all disagree with themselves. There are tens of sects within Hasidism.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
@snatch147at85 Yes i know the Jews & Arabs both had communist parties. Hasids were all, & still mostly are, anti-Zio, hence any poss. reluctance to go to Israel, altho i'd concede shtetl life as a reason, because the first big communities pre-zionism were hasids who lived in peace with arabs, so i think many are still happy to go to israel, so maybe no shtetl life is a more legit objection.
Entropy explains sects, revival recreates unity, both cyclic.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx Hasids were never anti-zio. This is a huge misconception. Hasidic groups argued that zionism is necessary but it's unnecessary to create a Jewish state that allows secular Jews to be secular. Hasidics are a bit crazy in this respect specifically the Satmar because Jews NEVER EVER forced other Jews to be observant. This is the first time in history the Satmar group is doing this.
snatch147at85 1 month ago
No peace for yahuds, untill all submit to the will of Allah, yahuds are the most dumbest nation in the whole world, they wer chosen by Allah.
but they choose the wordly pleasure.
the only way to bring them back to there Creator and to make them slave to this Magnificent Creator, called the Only One worthy of Worship, without partners.
is with fear, because stupid people understand only violence, and violence creates fear
it doesnt have to be like this, but u jews love to be terrorized
TheToilet911 1 month ago
@TheToilet911 You don't have to be Pro-Neturei Karta to go against Secularism. I'm against secular, socialism, Gay parades because I'm a Religious Zionist and we religious Zionist fight against the secularism . Don't worry slowly Israel's religious population increased now in 2012, the religious Jewish population is 27% and we will slowly with Hashem's will become more religious. G-d punishes suicide bombers. Watch your own secular Muslims who go against the Quran and drink before watching us.
ProudSephardic 1 month ago
@ProudSephardic "Suicide Bombing" its not realy suicide is Kidush HaShem, we sacrefice our bodies, then sell our Souls to Allah, in order to bring fear into the hearts of the ungreatful nation of yahudistan.israel court doesnt work, this is why we sent the jewih souls to the court of heaven by seperating the soul from body. if you dont fight democracy in israel, hamas will fight for the religious jews. Inshallah.
Also pride comes before fall. I learned in Proverbs.
TheToilet911 1 month ago
@TheToilet911 Suicide is absolutely haram. Don't even think of it, l think the traditions say that you won't even get a hearing before being sent to hell.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx do you smoke ?
TheToilet911 1 month ago
@TheToilet911 Yes. But more importantly: do you prefer to eat apples or bananas?
Oh i think i know where this is heading. Smoking is not 100% guaranteed to kill you. That's why it's still legal everywhere in the world.
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx smoking is suicide, smoking surly will kill you, you seem like a hypocrite you will never admit your foolishness, just to protect your ego, i wish you good luck in your life iam out here.
TheToilet911 1 month ago
@TheToilet911 if you think smoking is suicide then that makes 2 things you must avoid
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@hatloverxxx i dont smoke
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@TheToilet911 if you think smoking is suicide then that makes 2 things you must avoid
hatloverxxx 1 month ago
@TheToilet911 I support a true theocracy as well. The NK don't know or do anything.
TagMahirTzedek 1 month ago
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Sikilmis yahudi picler. Az kaldi sikilmenize.
pkksikenler 2 months ago
@jackrowet1234 FREE GAZA FROM ARAB EXTREMISTS!!!
ProudSephardic 4 months ago
KOL HA KAVOD!
Menechem 4 months ago
@jeddawy87 The English translation is in the video description above. BTW: Neturei Karta is only 300 members, the smallest and only Hasidic sect against Israel, the rest of religious Orthodox Jews are supporters of Zionism and Israel. Shalom
ProudSephardic 5 months ago
Where is the subtitle ?
Yesamuel 5 months ago
@Yesamuel It's in the video description above.
ProudSephardic 5 months ago
@ProudSephardic
Thank you!
Yesamuel 4 months ago
@ProudSephardic WTF it took all that to say those few paragraghs in the description?
SouthernCross33 1 day ago
@cbbnkuk
This is a man you respect? A man who is part of a cult that cheers on and meets with your enemies? Whether you agree with their logic or not, there is definitely a much better way to go about it. Chanting with the arabs at an israeli day parade would definitely not be the best way to do it, btw. They have made a total chillul Hashem. If i were you, I would seriously reconsider the type of people I had respect for. As an orthodox Jew, you should be ashamed of yourself.
israel8422 5 months ago
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paramatar13 5 months ago
Neturei Karta can not be supported in thier recognition of a Palestinian Nation, however the Jewish people must become more Torah observant and recognize that Religious zionism was what got the ball rolling and it was these pioneers that made the land come alive with produce again. Hertzel was a disgrace to Judaism and it was after, that he and the seculars poured into the land. It is what it is but NOW THESE SECULAR, ATHESTIC, NON OBSERVANT INGRATES must recognize TRUE ZIONISM. But they wont.
SCORNDOGGMELACH 5 months ago
@newstartforme1
Duh.. whatever you say. But you know that many Jews from Iran and the surrounding area fled to Khazaria and married some (real orthodox converts) of the Kuzarim?
Terneyah 6 months ago
@cbbnkuk no.....not at all the NK rabbi just keeps repeating himself and Amnon always gets him back
miniwrestler10 6 months ago
You religious fanatcs go take over the moon or somethin and let the rest of us live here on earth in peace
ILLHERBS 6 months ago 2
@Lynxz Hahaha Did you forget that when Arabs and Jews were fighting along side and beat the Christians, you betrayed us by massacring us across Damascus, Dayr Al-Qamar, Alexandria, Jerusalem 1847, Jaffa 1920, Hebron Massacre 1929, Safed Massacre. Don't ignore that Islamist Terrorist scum. G-d will deal with you and your ignorance.
ProudSephardic 6 months ago
@cbbnkuk No he doesn't the Neturei Karta are sewing hate for themselves, separating Jews, causing hate between us and this is exactly what Rabbi Yitzhak was trying to say. NK has caused so many secular Jews to hate Haredim because they think we are all like them, yet true Hasids like Breslov teach Jews with LOVE about the Torah with dances and have brought so many secular Jews closer to Judaism like Rabbi Yitzhak. Meanwhile the NK and Satmar despises Sephardic culture, make violent protests etc
ProudSephardic 6 months ago
Fuck these fake Jews who side with the Muslims! they are not real Jews anyway they will sale REAL JEWS for nothing.
newstartforme1 6 months ago
The Arabs started the bloody war when they joined the Nazis in ww1 and 2!!
newstartforme1 6 months ago
In the book of Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven ( Yehovah) set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, [but] it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Yehoshuah (Jesus) will be the head of this kingdom wich will come soon .
Follow him othewise will be to late for your life.
SuperPricil 6 months ago
סטמאר זענן פארקאקטע מענצן
alexanderlinden 6 months ago
Cbbnuk דו ביסט א פארקאקטע גוי!
alexanderlinden 6 months ago
The mass breeding and slaughter of animals for consumption is an act of terrorism. It fuels the blood sacrifices reptilians need to control humanity.
PharaohConway 6 months ago