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@dakentaijutsu2010 Because it was in a place where kids belong that did some bad things.. And i got away there. And my knee hurts anytime when im training so i do it anymore .. Maybe later again
@555hansy It's not about which marshal art is better, it's about the marshal artist. Everyones preference and style is different. But it would be interesting to see the two styles in combat.
well to favor one legitmate art over another is an obvious bias. most striking arts share the same moves, and similar physics, so it essentially comes down to practioner. For all martial arts to have survive all these centuries mean one thing: they work.
I think they have deliberately not chosen aikido to be part of their programme. Not because, and that's what a lot of people say, it doesn't work, but because it is a) a defensive art, b) an non-competetive art and c) an art that takes years (if not, a lifetime) to master.
@NinrateCommando These kinds of shows will probably never do a Capoeira episode, because one of the key elements of this kind of show is the spar/fight at the end. Capoeira doesn't have any form of widespread competition, much less a form of organized sparring (which I think Capoeira despretely needs).
But yes, I would love to see Bill do a Mea Lua. It would be fucking poetry in motion!
One thing that really puts me off about Kyokushin is that there are no punches to the face... That's why I'm more interested in Shotokan or Kempo, other than that it's beautiful.
@cabrerajohnny15 I don't have to. Lyoto Machida's primary style is Shotokan Karate, and last time I checked he was the number two ranked UFC fighter in weight category. So, unless you have something better....
@cabrerajohnny15 It's not the style it's the fighter that makes the difference. The way you train ofcourse is important. Full-Contact sparring breeds the best fighters. As for Muay Thi vs. Karate check out:
@MysticNinjaJay thanks yaeh i know sorry if i offended cause if seen Muay Thai defeat a Karate expert but ive also seen that a person who can use Karate effectably can kick major ass LOL
@cabrerajohnny15 Most arts, especially the ones that take long to master, can give the ability to kick major ass. I have learned to respect many arts by seeing practitioners in action and most others i respect because i have no reason not to.
i would like to see my old karate sensei again someday. my roots are in kenpo karate mixed with jujitsu.then i went to taekwondo and then muay thai but i like karate the best.its not that it is a better style its just it brought me so much happiness.the flowing,graceful techniques and form
who can answer this for me - would it be accurate to say that different personalities are attracted to different styles? would a guy who likes the chess match of striking go for karate, or who likes to get up close and ugly like judo, or something like that?
@bludluva I would say that's pretty accurate. I have a constant flow of philosophy of aggression and of peace, so I endeavor and practice both--at the moment at least--Wing Chun and Aikido. Before that, I was practicing Muay Thai, BJJ, and Wester Boxing with some elements of other arts.
@willaiden7 You have no clue what you are speaking of lol. Karate evolved from Chinese Kempo (Which dates back to Kung Fu's origins.) and several Okinawan martial arts including Shuri-te, Tomari-te, Naha-te and Okinawan wresling. Thus it contains some striking and grappling (Well in the more pure, original styles of Karate.) It dates back AGES and is often questioned to be one of the first martial arts created besides Kung Fu or Wushu.
I have tried Karate and in no stretch of the imagination is the most brutal martial art. I wouldnt even class it as brutal. Try something like Muay Thai then compare them.
The History Channel ought to be renamed 'The non history' channel. It's utterly worrying how very wrong they get it every time. What it amounts to is an American Documentary (debatable) Channel is re-writing world history. It is no wonder that America's education standard is falling so low and why they are not liked wherever they go in the world.... There are SO many inaccuracies in this episode that I wouldn't know where to begin. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN KARATE's HISTORY - buy some good books.
@rosswoof If you think there are inaccuracies then please say and explain what you think they are. By just claiming things and making slanderous statements, you make yourself sound no better than the people you claim to be idiots. So please, explain what you mean with them getting history wrong. I have the time.
@VillainousHanacha Fair enough but it'll have to brief here. 1) There are no karate syles older than than 1700's Even that is tenuous the majority of 'karate' styles evolved in the later part of the 18th and early 19th century. When there was an exodus of 'noble' families from the Shuri capital when they were permitted to return to their country land estates. 2) there is no japanese ju-jitsu influence in traditional karate - the grappling is from indigenous 'te' there is a link to 600ad aiki art
@rosswoof 6) enough for now! This documentary makes no reference to America's first invasion of the islands and passes over the sheer loss of civilian Okinawan life lost during the later WW2 invasion - and ongoing occupation! ... also although it does say Kyokushin is a modern art it implies its Okinawan.... it's not.
@VillainousHanacha 3) the ryukyuan kingdom did not trade knowledge of martial arts - exchanges of martial techniques more likely occured with the security guards of the merchants. The Okinawans did trade large numbers of early firearms (about 100 years prior to Japan even knowing they existed) - Ryukyu is often depicted as a nation of peace but its history much like Switserlands today by providing suplies for other peoples wars.
@VillainousHanacha 4) karate never became the 'common peoples' defence. The common people were peasants and practically tied to their lands. They had no spare time or energy for fighting professional soldiers. 5) "before the 19th century" karate was known as kodote? (never heard of this?) prior to 19th century it used to called "tode" when referring to China-Hands- the term kodo-te could translate as 'old martial arts' (indigenous te)
Probably yes, probably no. Who knows?? There are many masters in different martial arts that are great. But you know what? To kill someone else is not all about technique. It`s about mentality. Not many people are mentally prepared to kill someone unless they are killers or pshycos. You don´t need to do martial arts to kill people.
Probably you are right about the number of TKD practicioners (I am not sure about 3 times more popular, though) vs. Karate, but what is your point? You mean that because TWD is more popular than Karate (according to your statement) because is better??? Again, just in case you didn`t see my previous comment. It is not about the martial arts, it`s about the martial artists.
Heh, could you imagine if they made a joint show with human weapon and fight quest? Training the same martial art, looking at some of the MAs history and then in the end it would be HW guys vs FQ guys instead of one of them going at it with a pro, I think it would be kinda cool
@fightmate I think that depends on the MA, Dough and Jimmy always seem to have problems with flexibility so if it had to do with that I think Jason may be able to win a fight, and in a more power based MA Bill may be able to win, because that dude is pretty fucking big.
@masterdimsen If you practice an external style. If study an internal style such as a wudan gong fu, or Aikido, you can actually use it against a much stronger opponent, even Brazillian jiu-jitsu was originally intended as a soft or internal style, before it was modified for tournament.
@masterdimsen I know, man, when I had a 120 pound guy in a fireman's carry it felt great, but man that was intense, I'd never thrown anyone to the mat so hard except Aikido. Back when I was 13. what throw did you use? Koshinage? (Hip throw)? I'm a bit of a martial arts geek, I do Brazillian Jiu-jitsu, Aikido, and bagua zhang, and if I could find a zui Quan teacher I'd take that.
@buddy2000529 Yeah koshinage, and yeah it was intence, the slam that came when he hit the mat was gorgeous! but I did more traditional jiu-jitsu, it was a slightly newer style, but with roots in the older styles, we still wore a gi though... I'm a bit of a martial arts geek too, but I've actually only done japanese martial arts(jiu-jitsu, ninjutsu and now karate) nothing wrong with the others, kung fu just isnt that widespread here, and these just fitted well, with where I live and how they felt
@masterdimsen Japanese jujutsu? Or Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu? I tried Ninjustsu (although, with Jujutsu mixed in) (Daito ryu Aikijujutsu, mixed with Ninken, and taijutsu pretty much, but to me it felt too much like Aikido, but it was different enough that I couldn't take that martial art. What school of Ninjutsu did you take?
@buddy2000529 japanese jujutsu, we did spell it jiujitsu though... the jujutsu/jiujitsu school was called zaibukai I think... it's some years ago but I think thats it, meaning the school of the west or something, because the founder did so in Denmark, but learned jiujitsu/jujutsu in japan. I did bujinkan ninjutsu, it's nine schools, 6 samurai schools and 3 actual ninjutsu schools, we trained a mix between taijutsu, both grappling and punch/kick and weapon techniques...
@masterdimsen would that be bujinkan taijutsu.Maasaki Hatsumi openly admits he wove a web of deciet by claiming he was taeching Ninjutsu. but in fact it was Bujinkan Taijutsu. I have the vid somewhere
@jason41760 hmm... haven't heard about that, but it wasn't only taijutsu... also my teachers actual work was in security/intelligence, so the stuff we did learn was prober for sure.
Then again when I think about it, there wasn't really any ninja like stuff. the closest we got to that was learning to walk silently (which worked BTW) and once when we practised dodging, by throwing heavyrubber stars at each other.
But hearing it might've been lies, that just really bums me out...
As long as it's only the ninja part and not the actual taijutsu I suppose it's not a complete waste...
Though it was that which caught me (properly the point) I would've started doing karate instead of bujinkan from the beginning if it wasn't for that...
@TransPersonal123 what you´re talking about isn´t a form or a style. Karate just means fighting, same goes for kung fu, kenpo, and oxing. We´re just adding regional context in our langauge. Mixing fighting styles isn´t new, all of modern karate was mixed together, so is judo from various Jijitsu.
@SenseiShotokan oh really? i was just playing around... i took 3 years of wushu/shaolin when i was 12 and now im taking taekwondo and hapkido... after a 2 year break... i still get afraid of my older friends because they are just tanks
have u notice sumthing? all of the japanese martial art black belt are pretty big, they r like the size of a linebacker but with WAY more flexability.
Some people just say its less effective, not true at all, stuff like muai tai and BJJ are seemingly more effectice because of lifted restraints. Karate or any form of martial is for self discipline. I like many forms of martial arts, as currren, Im studying kyokushin, and its great, next I'd like to do judo or something or other, It all depends on the fighter not the style. Im just saying why can't people remember that...
@pencitypunk yea but the modern bai of karate stems from shotokan which has little practical value except in self dicipline(on can do that be reading zen buddhist psychology)
@pencitypunk shotoka discared the nessacary trad. strengthing that the old master brought back from china. so karate was moer life style than martial art though i feel it should be both. real karate are the old okinwan styles the only exception is kyokushin cuz of the conditioning to get that brolic.
@pencitypunk Yea, its true, many people learn these styles, or other to pick up a fight, be agressive ... cick some asses and be popular in the school...
@pencitypunk GSP welterweight champ of the ufc is 3rd degree
kyokushin karate black belt in bjj and best wrestler in mma so hes got his striking takdowns and ground game down pat so cross train is always the best
Overall, Karate is less effective. Of course, there are astounding practitioners; but, as a whole, for the average-Joe, it is not as effective. Also, Machida is good, but he lost quite badly to Rua (who used solely Muay Thai to win). I'm not suggesting that Karate is worthless - not at all...but martial arts such as Sambo, Muay Thai, Judo, Jujitsu are usually more effective as tools of self defence.
Why wouldn't taekwon do be effective? TKD for selfdefence teaches taekdowns aswell, although in my 1.5 years ive never learnet pressure points. It'll come though, i'm sure
I've taken tkd before and I havent seen any attempts to teach us takedowns... just crappy impractical self defense moves but maybe if you go to korea and take the real traditional tkd then maybe they'll teach more
That would be kool to learn many different forms, and not to be biased about one just because people dont see your way. Taking from each to improve on your on style. ^_^
@jaylyn3 I admire your teacher. I hear Judo, Hapkido and Karate all are heavily influenced by ninjitsu, and I know taekwondo was influenced somewhat by Karate. And the combination of the three will be effective and powerful I'm sure.
Yeah Ive heard of kosen Judo before, but Im already practicing BJJ, I have a good guard, but I like to pass better, the thing is in training we start in our knees and only before a tournament we practice standing, the emphasis on throws and takedowns its very little in my academy, Im taking Judo to cross train and learn how to throw properly...so for me its actually better not to train in Kosen judo right now, just your normal judo dojo with lots of Nage waza( Im starting next week)
Yeah, I know it sucks, Im from Ecuador, and the options for martial arts are limited, but judo its a great art, and Im going to train with a member of the olympic judo team of my country,, so its a good shot, maybe we still dont have a world class judo level but, we have a very good level of judo in south american games...And the truth is I just want to learn how to THROW people...I jope you find a good Dojo
I think that like pankration favours wrestling they dont use gloves like in most mma competitions, and thats why to prevent injuries they dont allow closefd fist strikes to the head, but I think theyre legal to the rest of the body and also stikes to the head in the form of kicks and open palm strikes are legal, Bas Rutten was famous for his open palm KOs in pancrase, and he practiced kyokushin...Im dyng for a daidojuku dojo in my country...but theres not so Im going to try judo for now
Machida has effective karate, not because of bjj or sumo(I know thats what makes him well rounded), but because as him and his father say, their style its taught not to make points but to ko and make damage... Basically any style that trains full contact all out spariing everyday has a chance of success, Machida is effective in MMA cause hes a disruption in the striking department, everybody got used to fight muay thai and boxing and when someone does different stuff they are like what?
Personally I practicied Kyokushin Kaikan for 7 years and now presently do MMA, along with Muay Thai, Jeet Kune Do, Kali, Wing Chun Kung Fu, Savate, Boxing, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I also did Jud for about 5 years.
Kyokushin made my striking exceptional against lots of MMA and Thai boxers. Due to the complete full contact and knockdown nature of Kyokushin. Not to mention how tough it made me.
@momo200090 show me the adress buddy and I'll see you there :) cheers from a Jiu-Jitsuka from Holland.
StefanoVersteegMMA 3 months ago
Sambo and MMA are deadlier. Thumbs up brothers.
StefanoVersteegMMA 3 months ago
@StefanoVersteegMMA mma is mixed martial arts if you want to fight some kyokushin fighters come to antwerp and we show yah how deadly we are.
momo200090 3 months ago
kyokushin.. i am practicing it.. i love every second i am training. Osu from Latvia.
ml210993 4 months ago
KARATE IS NOT THE MOST BRUTAL MARTIAL ART ON EARTH BUT IT4S KYOKUSHIN KARATE !!!
OSUUUU from belgium.
momo200090 5 months ago
@momo200090 Osu from the netherlands i agree
donferad 4 months ago
@donferad dankuu maat ;)
OSU
momo200090 4 months ago
@HeroCasey You mean than the original Muay Thai, cuz the ring sport fight sucks compared to Okinawan karate
MrGabcorrea 5 months ago
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ddpostley1 5 months ago
is there a new brutal karate that i havent heard or are they talking about the old version lol
heyhowyouredoingman 6 months ago
thumbs up if you heard 'take on a black belt' and went ' oh.... is it tuesday already?'
Googlystube 6 months ago
@MrBigman001 No, thanks though ;D
DrCameltoe 6 months ago
@MrBigman001 whatever man
DrCameltoe 7 months ago
@MrBigman001 what kind of a answer is that?!
DrCameltoe 7 months ago
@MrBigman001 wtf? who the hell are you, why are you telling me this?
DrCameltoe 7 months ago
mix karate with arnis/eskirma. epic
Carpetsniff 7 months ago
i would to do this job
projmat12 8 months ago
I did kyukushin karate its so hard
but i had to stop because my knee :(.
Luuk024 8 months ago 12
@Luuk024 how hard is Kyokushinkai?
dakentaijutsu2010 7 months ago
@dakentaijutsu2010 It was tough for me
Luuk024 7 months ago
@Luuk024 what belt are you?
dakentaijutsu2010 7 months ago
@dakentaijutsu2010 I havent playd with belts and that stuff it was training for problemchilds i did kyukushin for 3 years.
Luuk024 7 months ago
@Luuk024 I hold a brown belt in Chinese Kempo
dakentaijutsu2010 7 months ago
@Luuk024 I here Kyokushinkai is hard! But you never should stop doin it!
dakentaijutsu2010 7 months ago
@dakentaijutsu2010 Yeah i know , i still want to go on but im not allowed anymore =(
Luuk024 7 months ago
@Luuk024 why not?
dakentaijutsu2010 7 months ago
@dakentaijutsu2010 Because it was in a place where kids belong that did some bad things.. And i got away there. And my knee hurts anytime when im training so i do it anymore .. Maybe later again
Luuk024 7 months ago
is this the Kyokushin?
ThrashFarmer 9 months ago
mmmm can kyokushin defeat wing chun ? i'd like to know . i train kyokushin .
555hansy 9 months ago
@555hansy It's not about which marshal art is better, it's about the marshal artist. Everyones preference and style is different. But it would be interesting to see the two styles in combat.
Stewie4guvna 9 months ago
@Stewie4guvna I agree with you man, I practice kempo!
dakentaijutsu2010 7 months ago
I'm here because I saw a fight between a MMA fighter fighting a karate person...and karate won. MMA person got knocked out by a mawashi geri
PdubzCrew 10 months ago
this my own karate fighting and its chintokan
john12375100 10 months ago
all fighters are fat ??
imgoodatmakingnames 11 months ago
Karate / Kyokushin is so gd for conditioning ><`
KamikazeiOo 1 year ago
what kind of karate is this?
MultiJapan 1 year ago
@MultiJapan The style they are fighting in is kyokushin. Later in the episode they look at older styles like goju ryu etc.
kyoku1982 1 year ago
''it's the worlds most brutal martial art'' : they say it with every one of them...
imnotokeither 1 year ago 39
@imnotokeither
well to favor one legitmate art over another is an obvious bias. most striking arts share the same moves, and similar physics, so it essentially comes down to practioner. For all martial arts to have survive all these centuries mean one thing: they work.
ChiimuZaRen 1 year ago
lol, "how's it look, does it hang well??"
mace9697 1 year ago
I think they have deliberately not chosen aikido to be part of their programme. Not because, and that's what a lot of people say, it doesn't work, but because it is a) a defensive art, b) an non-competetive art and c) an art that takes years (if not, a lifetime) to master.
FearThisChannel 1 year ago
The hosts are soooo lucky to be able to train with such prominent karateka.
hhk213 1 year ago
@NinrateCommando These kinds of shows will probably never do a Capoeira episode, because one of the key elements of this kind of show is the spar/fight at the end. Capoeira doesn't have any form of widespread competition, much less a form of organized sparring (which I think Capoeira despretely needs).
But yes, I would love to see Bill do a Mea Lua. It would be fucking poetry in motion!
VillainousHanacha 1 year ago
One thing that really puts me off about Kyokushin is that there are no punches to the face... That's why I'm more interested in Shotokan or Kempo, other than that it's beautiful.
tasneefm 1 year ago
Muay Thai shits on Karate
cabrerajohnny15 1 year ago
@cabrerajohnny15 Have any evidence of that, or are you just blowing smoke?
Wolfenman08 1 year ago
@Wolfenman08 check vids of muay thai vs karate
cabrerajohnny15 1 year ago
@cabrerajohnny15 I don't have to. Lyoto Machida's primary style is Shotokan Karate, and last time I checked he was the number two ranked UFC fighter in weight category. So, unless you have something better....
Wolfenman08 1 year ago
@Wolfenman08 shit fine u win this round ;D LOL
cabrerajohnny15 1 year ago
@cabrerajohnny15 It's not the style it's the fighter that makes the difference. The way you train ofcourse is important. Full-Contact sparring breeds the best fighters. As for Muay Thi vs. Karate check out:
Andy Hug vs Changphuak Kiatsongrit
MysticNinjaJay 1 year ago
@MysticNinjaJay thanks yaeh i know sorry if i offended cause if seen Muay Thai defeat a Karate expert but ive also seen that a person who can use Karate effectably can kick major ass LOL
cabrerajohnny15 1 year ago
@cabrerajohnny15 Most arts, especially the ones that take long to master, can give the ability to kick major ass. I have learned to respect many arts by seeing practitioners in action and most others i respect because i have no reason not to.
An0niempje 1 year ago
i would like to see my old karate sensei again someday. my roots are in kenpo karate mixed with jujitsu.then i went to taekwondo and then muay thai but i like karate the best.its not that it is a better style its just it brought me so much happiness.the flowing,graceful techniques and form
noahblackwell13 1 year ago
who can answer this for me - would it be accurate to say that different personalities are attracted to different styles? would a guy who likes the chess match of striking go for karate, or who likes to get up close and ugly like judo, or something like that?
bludluva 1 year ago
@bludluva I would say that's pretty accurate. I have a constant flow of philosophy of aggression and of peace, so I endeavor and practice both--at the moment at least--Wing Chun and Aikido. Before that, I was practicing Muay Thai, BJJ, and Wester Boxing with some elements of other arts.
Ronnock 1 year ago
acient time of samurais?? Karate is more from 19 centruy, and samurais used to learn juijutsu
willaiden7 1 year ago
@willaiden7 You have no clue what you are speaking of lol. Karate evolved from Chinese Kempo (Which dates back to Kung Fu's origins.) and several Okinawan martial arts including Shuri-te, Tomari-te, Naha-te and Okinawan wresling. Thus it contains some striking and grappling (Well in the more pure, original styles of Karate.) It dates back AGES and is often questioned to be one of the first martial arts created besides Kung Fu or Wushu.
ValkyereHowie 1 year ago
I'm a Black Belt in Shukokai Karate and to me this stuff is extreme to the way I train. Then again they are in Okinawa :P
TopShadowman 1 year ago
Jason Chambers is so handsome. :D
Secretlyastonishing 1 year ago
Karate was harsher in the past...
jung567 1 year ago
@Ruben1994OL
I have tried Karate and in no stretch of the imagination is the most brutal martial art. I wouldnt even class it as brutal. Try something like Muay Thai then compare them.
Nurglesbitch 1 year ago
@Nurglesbitch Theres a difference between Self Defense and SPORT. Karate training is harsh.
hazza3 1 year ago
u can kick em in da head but u cant puch em doesnt make any sense
pinoyamo 1 year ago
@pinoyamo having a style is just putting a limitation on your body
Itachi429 1 year ago
@Itachi429 wat???
pinoyamo 1 year ago
wtf?! they didn't get taught how to tie their belts properly?
stupot295 1 year ago
How is Karate the most brutal martial art?
Nurglesbitch 1 year ago 9
@Nurglesbitch Try it and you'll see..
Ruben1994OL 1 year ago
@Nurglesbitch No protection or referee's.
hazza3 1 year ago
@Nurglesbitch in the past it was...
jung567 1 year ago
@Nurglesbitch Idk,elbow strikes are legal in karate competitions without headgear I guess?
genesisavatar 7 months ago
@Nurglesbitch cuz chuck norris train karate
DrCameltoe 7 months ago
@Nurglesbitch because when a man comes to attack you, he's trying to kill you....so therefore you have to be prepared to kill him.
intense huh?
Googlystube 6 months ago
@Nurglesbitch i think it's Taekwondo or Muay Thai
BeatKidR 5 months ago
in comparison of two close cousins,
taekwondo has a greater speed whereas karate has better emission of power.
tonmy21 1 year ago
well, kyokushin karate comes from corea and was created by masutatsu oyama
mok0s1 1 year ago
The History Channel ought to be renamed 'The non history' channel. It's utterly worrying how very wrong they get it every time. What it amounts to is an American Documentary (debatable) Channel is re-writing world history. It is no wonder that America's education standard is falling so low and why they are not liked wherever they go in the world.... There are SO many inaccuracies in this episode that I wouldn't know where to begin. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN KARATE's HISTORY - buy some good books.
rosswoof 1 year ago
@rosswoof If you think there are inaccuracies then please say and explain what you think they are. By just claiming things and making slanderous statements, you make yourself sound no better than the people you claim to be idiots. So please, explain what you mean with them getting history wrong. I have the time.
VillainousHanacha 1 year ago
@VillainousHanacha Fair enough but it'll have to brief here. 1) There are no karate syles older than than 1700's Even that is tenuous the majority of 'karate' styles evolved in the later part of the 18th and early 19th century. When there was an exodus of 'noble' families from the Shuri capital when they were permitted to return to their country land estates. 2) there is no japanese ju-jitsu influence in traditional karate - the grappling is from indigenous 'te' there is a link to 600ad aiki art
rosswoof 1 year ago
@rosswoof 6) enough for now! This documentary makes no reference to America's first invasion of the islands and passes over the sheer loss of civilian Okinawan life lost during the later WW2 invasion - and ongoing occupation! ... also although it does say Kyokushin is a modern art it implies its Okinawan.... it's not.
rosswoof 1 year ago
@VillainousHanacha 3) the ryukyuan kingdom did not trade knowledge of martial arts - exchanges of martial techniques more likely occured with the security guards of the merchants. The Okinawans did trade large numbers of early firearms (about 100 years prior to Japan even knowing they existed) - Ryukyu is often depicted as a nation of peace but its history much like Switserlands today by providing suplies for other peoples wars.
rosswoof 1 year ago
@VillainousHanacha 4) karate never became the 'common peoples' defence. The common people were peasants and practically tied to their lands. They had no spare time or energy for fighting professional soldiers. 5) "before the 19th century" karate was known as kodote? (never heard of this?) prior to 19th century it used to called "tode" when referring to China-Hands- the term kodo-te could translate as 'old martial arts' (indigenous te)
rosswoof 1 year ago
@AaronHenley88
Probably yes, probably no. Who knows?? There are many masters in different martial arts that are great. But you know what? To kill someone else is not all about technique. It`s about mentality. Not many people are mentally prepared to kill someone unless they are killers or pshycos. You don´t need to do martial arts to kill people.
fernandobodi 1 year ago
Ah! Karate. My favorite style. Wish I could continue my training for Good. I want to be a master at all fighting styles.
TevinMoore1234 1 year ago
taekwondo is more popular than karate 3 times as many ppl do tkd than karate
tapoutcampion111 1 year ago
@tapoutcampion111 really, well that sucks to know man, because the mainly doin WTF they never train for what i do ITF.
teakwondoteen 1 year ago
@tapoutcampion111
Probably you are right about the number of TKD practicioners (I am not sure about 3 times more popular, though) vs. Karate, but what is your point? You mean that because TWD is more popular than Karate (according to your statement) because is better??? Again, just in case you didn`t see my previous comment. It is not about the martial arts, it`s about the martial artists.
fernandobodi 1 year ago
@fernandobodi i know and no it's because alot of ppl end doin tkd instead of karate
tapoutcampion111 1 year ago
i love karate it rules all martial arts i train karate=)
Ossst70 1 year ago
i love karate it rules all martial art i traning karate
Ossst70 1 year ago
They're using Muay Thai pads in training
aa3gunner 1 year ago
@aa3gunner Actually those pads are used in Muay Thai, Savate, Karate, Boxing...
They're just standard striking pads
aiyer1989 1 year ago
@aiyer1989: yeah but those are called "Thai Pads" cause they were developed in Thailand for Muay Thai.
aa3gunner 1 year ago
Heh, could you imagine if they made a joint show with human weapon and fight quest? Training the same martial art, looking at some of the MAs history and then in the end it would be HW guys vs FQ guys instead of one of them going at it with a pro, I think it would be kinda cool
masterdimsen 1 year ago 40
@masterdimsen Dough and Jimmy is ganna own them lolz
fightmate 1 year ago
@fightmate I think that depends on the MA, Dough and Jimmy always seem to have problems with flexibility so if it had to do with that I think Jason may be able to win a fight, and in a more power based MA Bill may be able to win, because that dude is pretty fucking big.
masterdimsen 1 year ago
@masterdimsen but if you look at the skill, don't think Bill could win
fightmate 1 year ago
@fightmate True, but martial arts are more of an equalizer, so a dude with some martial arts skill can still lose to a dude with massive strength.
A technique is no good if you can't put the power behind it for it to work.
It's sad but true
masterdimsen 1 year ago
@masterdimsen If you practice an external style. If study an internal style such as a wudan gong fu, or Aikido, you can actually use it against a much stronger opponent, even Brazillian jiu-jitsu was originally intended as a soft or internal style, before it was modified for tournament.
buddy2000529 1 year ago
@buddy2000529 I know, I did jiu-jitsu myself :D
When I was twelve I threw a grown, and quite large (as in heavy around the gut) man :D it felt AWESOME!
masterdimsen 1 year ago
@masterdimsen I know, man, when I had a 120 pound guy in a fireman's carry it felt great, but man that was intense, I'd never thrown anyone to the mat so hard except Aikido. Back when I was 13. what throw did you use? Koshinage? (Hip throw)? I'm a bit of a martial arts geek, I do Brazillian Jiu-jitsu, Aikido, and bagua zhang, and if I could find a zui Quan teacher I'd take that.
buddy2000529 1 year ago
@buddy2000529 Yeah koshinage, and yeah it was intence, the slam that came when he hit the mat was gorgeous! but I did more traditional jiu-jitsu, it was a slightly newer style, but with roots in the older styles, we still wore a gi though... I'm a bit of a martial arts geek too, but I've actually only done japanese martial arts(jiu-jitsu, ninjutsu and now karate) nothing wrong with the others, kung fu just isnt that widespread here, and these just fitted well, with where I live and how they felt
masterdimsen 1 year ago
@masterdimsen Japanese jujutsu? Or Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu? I tried Ninjustsu (although, with Jujutsu mixed in) (Daito ryu Aikijujutsu, mixed with Ninken, and taijutsu pretty much, but to me it felt too much like Aikido, but it was different enough that I couldn't take that martial art. What school of Ninjutsu did you take?
buddy2000529 1 year ago
@buddy2000529 japanese jujutsu, we did spell it jiujitsu though... the jujutsu/jiujitsu school was called zaibukai I think... it's some years ago but I think thats it, meaning the school of the west or something, because the founder did so in Denmark, but learned jiujitsu/jujutsu in japan. I did bujinkan ninjutsu, it's nine schools, 6 samurai schools and 3 actual ninjutsu schools, we trained a mix between taijutsu, both grappling and punch/kick and weapon techniques...
masterdimsen 11 months ago
@masterdimsen would that be bujinkan taijutsu.Maasaki Hatsumi openly admits he wove a web of deciet by claiming he was taeching Ninjutsu. but in fact it was Bujinkan Taijutsu. I have the vid somewhere
jason41760 11 months ago
@jason41760 hmm... haven't heard about that, but it wasn't only taijutsu... also my teachers actual work was in security/intelligence, so the stuff we did learn was prober for sure.
Then again when I think about it, there wasn't really any ninja like stuff. the closest we got to that was learning to walk silently (which worked BTW) and once when we practised dodging, by throwing heavyrubber stars at each other.
But hearing it might've been lies, that just really bums me out...
masterdimsen 11 months ago
@masterdimsen Pt(2):
Hatsumi is a great and charismatic gentleman.quite funny and humerus I would myself continue with Bujinkan only for me it is to late.....
Shotokan runs freely through my blood lol.So much in fact I practice everyday and inc at home..Bujinkan is very effective ,
yet like many Martial Arts It is more entirely down to the practioneers capacity and commitment as to how effective it is for that person.
jason41760 11 months ago
@masterdimsen Pt(1):Hi I must apolagise,for I was not intending to discredit or discourage you from Your chosen studies.
I do not want to try and label the Art as fake or Hatsumi as fraudulant.
In fact I have had the pleasure of meeting Hatsumi and dining with karaoke(The Japanese love Karaoke lol),
jason41760 11 months ago
@jason41760 *part 2*
As long as it's only the ninja part and not the actual taijutsu I suppose it's not a complete waste...
Though it was that which caught me (properly the point) I would've started doing karate instead of bujinkan from the beginning if it wasn't for that...
masterdimsen 11 months ago
@masterdimsen But the fight quest guys would win, they pick it up faster. Although, Jason has more experience.
buddy2000529 1 year ago
@masterdimsen well which of the FQ guys do you want to fight Bill? :D
abusemyskill 8 months ago
@abusemyskill Wouldnt matter to me :)
masterdimsen 8 months ago
damn you history channel for canceling this show DAMN YOU !!!!!!!!!!
MrBigfoot347 1 year ago 28
@MrBigfoot347 Lol, they canceled the show, because they discovered every famous "Martial Arts", so there's now more MA, for them to discover. :)
vichetmeng 1 year ago
people should not argue about which is the better martial art, it is not about the art, it is about the practicioner of the art
at least, that is my opinion
emilioszz 1 year ago 2
esta muy padre
dgchaw 1 year ago
whooo karate rules tae kwan do is for pussies and i take the real shit i take shuri ryu man
ichisakon3 1 year ago
go kyokoshin ^^
Khasseng 1 year ago 2
I like both the Human Weapon and Fight Quest series, but Doug and Jimmy seemd to have more knowlage about Martial Arts
MikeyMartialArts 1 year ago 4
How many Degrees are there in Karate? 9 like Taekwon-Do?
randomnator 1 year ago
@randomnator there are 20 degrees in karate.
Joontai 1 year ago
@TransPersonal123 what you´re talking about isn´t a form or a style. Karate just means fighting, same goes for kung fu, kenpo, and oxing. We´re just adding regional context in our langauge. Mixing fighting styles isn´t new, all of modern karate was mixed together, so is judo from various Jijitsu.
GadGades 1 year ago
@TransPersonal123 no one is pure anything in MMA, and you can get the same skills from a lot of things.
GadGades 1 year ago
learn tkd (to be gr8 at kicking )
then some karate to actually defence and use ur hands more often
megadeath1555 2 years ago 2
hahah all the black belts in the store were almost gone! haha
papitodo 2 years ago 3
Is it better to start training karate or judo?
Jovan528 2 years ago
Karate. Learn some Judo moves to mix with it, but overall you should do Karate
Dominus96 2 years ago 2
I'd Start with Karate and move to Judo...But if I was only gonna do one, I'd do Karate
Meadras 2 years ago
YEA UR A 2ND DEGREE MURDERER...
fob152 2 years ago
Self defence, such as krav maga, is ment to be learned fast and easily, because not every1 who needs to defend him/herself is a martial artist
veshkeat 2 years ago
nothing beats the original kung fu ; )
trousien 2 years ago
trousien you are not a martial artist, for talking like that.
SenseiShotokan 2 years ago 3
@SenseiShotokan oh really? i was just playing around... i took 3 years of wushu/shaolin when i was 12 and now im taking taekwondo and hapkido... after a 2 year break... i still get afraid of my older friends because they are just tanks
trousien 2 years ago
ima blackbelt
TheFuzzdawg 2 years ago
have u notice sumthing? all of the japanese martial art black belt are pretty big, they r like the size of a linebacker but with WAY more flexability.
k1ll3r3dg3 2 years ago
the intro to human weapon always sounds so cool
pbzkfdt11 2 years ago 17
i mean katrate is good but yall should see Jeet Kune Do
bboyloco3 2 years ago
i took both karate and taikwondo.
MrSupersaiyangoku 2 years ago
Some people just say its less effective, not true at all, stuff like muai tai and BJJ are seemingly more effectice because of lifted restraints. Karate or any form of martial is for self discipline. I like many forms of martial arts, as currren, Im studying kyokushin, and its great, next I'd like to do judo or something or other, It all depends on the fighter not the style. Im just saying why can't people remember that...
pencitypunk 2 years ago 20
finally someone who knows its not the fighter but the style!!!
jaylyn3 2 years ago 3
@pencitypunk yea but the modern bai of karate stems from shotokan which has little practical value except in self dicipline(on can do that be reading zen buddhist psychology)
kaindrg 1 year ago
@pencitypunk bias*
kaindrg 1 year ago
@pencitypunk shotoka discared the nessacary trad. strengthing that the old master brought back from china. so karate was moer life style than martial art though i feel it should be both. real karate are the old okinwan styles the only exception is kyokushin cuz of the conditioning to get that brolic.
kaindrg 1 year ago
@pencitypunk Imagine if those kyokushin fighters were allowed to punch in the head and face, people would be killed.
I kinda went the other way, I did jiujitsu, then a little bujinkan ninjutsu and now I'm doing goju ryu karate :D
masterdimsen 1 year ago
@pencitypunk i have no idea what bjj is but muai tai is good for bloodly killing people
vallgron 1 year ago
@vallgron Brazilian jui jitsu
pencitypunk 1 year ago
@pencitypunk Kyokushin and Judo is a good combo.
Judokkaa 1 year ago
@Judokkaa yes, I agree, I wish to take on more when Im ready. For now, Im learning alot
pencitypunk 1 year ago
@pencitypunk Yea, its true, many people learn these styles, or other to pick up a fight, be agressive ... cick some asses and be popular in the school...
But, its not good.
jasonlangeraiki 1 year ago
@pencitypunk GSP welterweight champ of the ufc is 3rd degree
kyokushin karate black belt in bjj and best wrestler in mma so hes got his striking takdowns and ground game down pat so cross train is always the best
saberman41 1 year ago
Overall, Karate is less effective. Of course, there are astounding practitioners; but, as a whole, for the average-Joe, it is not as effective. Also, Machida is good, but he lost quite badly to Rua (who used solely Muay Thai to win). I'm not suggesting that Karate is worthless - not at all...but martial arts such as Sambo, Muay Thai, Judo, Jujitsu are usually more effective as tools of self defence.
meaning1 2 years ago
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Karate is pretty, but it is not a particularly effective form of self defense. Not in comparison to Muay Thai and Sambo etc.
meaning1 2 years ago
thats tae kwon do, karate imo can be effective as it teaches more things like pressure points, throws and stuff like that
theboxer50 2 years ago
Why wouldn't taekwon do be effective? TKD for selfdefence teaches taekdowns aswell, although in my 1.5 years ive never learnet pressure points. It'll come though, i'm sure
veshkeat 2 years ago
I've taken tkd before and I havent seen any attempts to teach us takedowns... just crappy impractical self defense moves but maybe if you go to korea and take the real traditional tkd then maybe they'll teach more
theboxer50 2 years ago
at my tkd school we learn judo hapkido and taekwondo
jaylyn3 2 years ago
That would be kool to learn many different forms, and not to be biased about one just because people dont see your way. Taking from each to improve on your on style. ^_^
OSU!
pencitypunk 2 years ago
thank you for being first to understand borrowing from other styles and use dedication and hard work to be a superior style
jaylyn3 2 years ago
@jaylyn3 I admire your teacher. I hear Judo, Hapkido and Karate all are heavily influenced by ninjitsu, and I know taekwondo was influenced somewhat by Karate. And the combination of the three will be effective and powerful I'm sure.
coregazer 2 years ago
I doubt hapkido was influenced to much by ninjutsu, hapkido is korean <.<
veshkeat 2 years ago
@veshkeat oh okay, well that's just what i heard on "human weapon - ninjitsu", so you can blame Jason Chambers if that's wrong :P
coregazer 2 years ago
Hapkido was influenced by ju-jitsu,not ninjutsu.
Either way,I must agree,Hapkido is a Korean martial art not too dependant of Japanese techniques.
CipherTheCommadant 2 years ago
hapkido was influenced by judo... not jiujitsu. i don't see any jiu jitsu techniques used in hapkido
wowspare 2 years ago
what the fuck!!!
1:28 that aint karate! holy shit ive never seen something like that crappy shit before^^
man...
multikultiraider 2 years ago
Yeah Ive heard of kosen Judo before, but Im already practicing BJJ, I have a good guard, but I like to pass better, the thing is in training we start in our knees and only before a tournament we practice standing, the emphasis on throws and takedowns its very little in my academy, Im taking Judo to cross train and learn how to throw properly...so for me its actually better not to train in Kosen judo right now, just your normal judo dojo with lots of Nage waza( Im starting next week)
AJDevilx 2 years ago
Yeah, I know it sucks, Im from Ecuador, and the options for martial arts are limited, but judo its a great art, and Im going to train with a member of the olympic judo team of my country,, so its a good shot, maybe we still dont have a world class judo level but, we have a very good level of judo in south american games...And the truth is I just want to learn how to THROW people...I jope you find a good Dojo
AJDevilx 2 years ago
I think that like pankration favours wrestling they dont use gloves like in most mma competitions, and thats why to prevent injuries they dont allow closefd fist strikes to the head, but I think theyre legal to the rest of the body and also stikes to the head in the form of kicks and open palm strikes are legal, Bas Rutten was famous for his open palm KOs in pancrase, and he practiced kyokushin...Im dyng for a daidojuku dojo in my country...but theres not so Im going to try judo for now
AJDevilx 2 years ago
Machida has effective karate, not because of bjj or sumo(I know thats what makes him well rounded), but because as him and his father say, their style its taught not to make points but to ko and make damage... Basically any style that trains full contact all out spariing everyday has a chance of success, Machida is effective in MMA cause hes a disruption in the striking department, everybody got used to fight muay thai and boxing and when someone does different stuff they are like what?
AJDevilx 2 years ago
Yeah he's amazing.
Clfguardian26 2 years ago
Personally I practicied Kyokushin Kaikan for 7 years and now presently do MMA, along with Muay Thai, Jeet Kune Do, Kali, Wing Chun Kung Fu, Savate, Boxing, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I also did Jud for about 5 years.
Kyokushin made my striking exceptional against lots of MMA and Thai boxers. Due to the complete full contact and knockdown nature of Kyokushin. Not to mention how tough it made me.
Harvesterofsorrow213 2 years ago