Window Motor Running On Capacitors

[MsAlexbobo]

Perfect work. Unspeakably.How you arranged the magnets - N-N-N or N-S-N?

[DadHav]

@MsAlexbobo

Thank you friend. Yes the magnets are 1/4 x 1/2 x 2" neodymium and they are nsnsns.

Thank you for watching.

John

[dougspair]

I'll have to study the super-caps some more, but I'm thinking the operating voltage is engineered to work around the 3.5-3.7 volt lithium cells? Tapping? I've worked with many metals, and used thread cutting and roll form tapping, so I've used tapping fluids for steel, a different one for stainless, and yet another for aluminum. Delrin, I've used that for shaft/bearing seals in food processing equipment, mainly on stainless shafts, with the 'lubricant' being the process fluid, usually water

[DadHav]

@dougspair

I personally haven't seen a super cap over 2.7, but there may be some. Yes, I used to work with a lot of pre hardened steels, Viscount 44, 4140, Stainless etc. Then some of the hydro carbon tapping fluids are necessary. You already know TapMatic and similar have a formula for almost everything, but I'll use Edge in my basement workshop. This Delrin was given to me from an engineer at NASA about 40 years ago. It's really quit good and a waste to use for a simple rotor.

John

[dougspair]

@DadHav I'll study the super caps some more, but I still have a few salvaged electros from stuff...50-60K mikes,and 25-50 volts..mostly from 5v and + -12v power supplies. Tapmatic, yes, I even have a drill press spindle mount tapper I found at used tool sale.

Delrin, that stuff was never cheap ! The shaft seals I made were for food processing, raw potatos, a lot of water..most all 304SS materials, UHMW is real good for this stuff, but absorbs enough H20 to fail bacterial requirements.

[dougspair]

I've just recently seen the 'supercaps' on here (other youtube sites)...seems most are 2.5 volts? And the plexiglass...do you use some kind of lube when tapping theholes?

[DadHav]

@dougspair

The super caps I have here are 2.3 2.5 and 2.7 volts. I use a tapping fluid called Edge, but sometimes I just use Marvell Mystery Oil from the auto store.

John

[Mrinfoone]

Instead of plastic that still sometimes holds some kind of charging residue. Why don't you used wood frames and a lot less expensive? How much for one off your circuit boards if you sell them?

[DadHav]

@Mrinfoone

Many people use wood for their frame. I have never notice any static electricity on the frame. Although I have thought of trying purposely to get some. Maybe it could be used.

John

[aerofart]

Beautiful work. Just subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more wonderful creations.

[cruesader12]

take a air compressor and plow on it for a while then see how long it will last!!!

[tectalabyss]

Thank you for the reply. Looking forward to your next Build.You Take Care Also.Tec

[tectalabyss]

Very Nice Build ! I subscribed and added you to my favorites.Thanks for sharing.Tec

[DadHav]

@tectalabyss

Hey, You're welcome and thanks.

Take care.

J

[quidne1]

Fantastic. Thanks for the specific info and I look forward to your upcoming videos.

[skunkape49]

nice 

[FlavoredCoffeeGuy]

A pulsating DC magnetic field can work just as well as DC magnetic field. There is a difference though. The pulsating DC can be fine tuned, and all of the energy that went in come back to be used. I wish these guys would stop using dead batteries to make a proof, and use a lipo battery and see how far a plan will fly. This ought to be the biggest thing that ever hit electric RC modelling. It would increase flight time from 2 minutes to hours.

[DadHav]

@FlavoredCoffeeGuy

that's exactly what I've had in mind for a long time. Keeping the weight down is an issue but even an increase of efficiency would be welcome in the R/C field. I've been working on a fairly good size Piper Cb that would handle a pretty heavy payload. I haven't come up with a suitable idea to incorporate the two yet. Yes. LiPo is a very good way to go.

J

[FlavoredCoffeeGuy]

If it's anything else, when it comes down to brushless motors, anything else is bad power management and bad electronics engineering.

[FlavoredCoffeeGuy]

The self inductance of coils in electric motors has always been considered a problem, not a solution. The use of the buck boost basic circuit as the foundation of reclaiming that energy, over just ignoring it or calling a problem is the solution. That is all that this motor proves.

[FlavoredCoffeeGuy]

I think that the negative comments come from a lack of electronics education and training. If you know what a buck boost circuit is, then you can understand the operating theory that's reclaiming energy. If there is a myth involved here, it's that magnetic lines are an expense of an inductor's energy if anything moves, or as a result of motion self inductance is dissolved. Permanent magnetic cores are typically saturated, therefore only measured values of inductance should be considered.

[ncranfill]

try to make one that is self running, i lack the funds and materials to make something my self.

[delio10267]

I think it will run long if u double the no of capacitors same spec. and i like the way u do it pare. its clean and tidy i am only think of what applications. thanks anyway

[DadHav]

@delio10267

Yes it will run much longer with two capacitors hooked up. Also you are right in asking what you can do with this. The motor running at this low current really has no torque. The experiment is only to see how long you can swing a two pound rotor on a small capacitor.

J

[DadHav]

@delio10267

Yes it could run for about two days with each capacitor. You hit the nail on the head about applications. There's no torque here with such low watts. If I run the motor at 250 ma though it's really hard to stop the motor by holding the shaft.

John

[yx630514yx]

Hello: Want to ask your advice and discussion, has to send a message to tell you my email address. Hope you can respond promptly. Thank you.

[yx630514yx]

3] The drive coil need to connect a bridge rectifier to the capacitor it? Thank you very much to answer.

[DadHav]

@yx630514yx In this circuit the bridge can be fed back to the capacitor but it isn't necessary. It didn't increase run time for me at this low voltage / current. I used a much simpler circuit on the Window Motor Assembly / Current Test video have a look at that video. I will post a video of the circuit which uses only three transistors and no resistors other than for the trigger trim. Yes, there stronger the magnets the better IMHO. Mine are M-42. 1/4 x 1/2 x 2".

[yx630514yx]

Your motor is very good, I plan to Replication it, search a lot of information, did not understand where to ask you: 1] window motor drive coil resistance of 50 ohms or so should be the most efficient. But you introduce you to use 23 # AWG 400ft resistance of only about 8.54 ohms. Drive coil resistor size is not important? 2] the greater the magnetic strength magnet motor efficiency will be the highest it? I want to use a stronger magnet magnetic.

[DadHav]

@yx630514yx I welcome you to try a motor. I don't know what calculation gave you 50 ohms as optimal. There is something strange about my wire and resistance. The wire was probably 50 years old. The diameter calculates the wire to be #31.5 and #22.7. The power coil = 12.2 ohms (29mH) the trigger 80 ohms (29 mH) I don't know why the high resistance of the trigger coils. I can only figure the wire was low quality. I guessed at 400 Ft. There may be a little more. I'm not sure.

John

[smeggerss]

@DadHav i remember there was a copper shortage years ok .

[DadHav]

@007bond66

HELLO DIANA. MY LOSSES ARE PRIMARILY IN BEARING FRICTION. EVEN THOUGHT THERE IS 1200 FEET OF WIRE AND THE RESISTANCE ACROSS THE SOLID STATE CIRCUIT, I CAN GET THE MOTOR TO RUN AT 50 MICRO AMPS. SO I HAVE A HARD TIME EXPLAINING LOSSES DUE TO CIRCUIT RESISTANCE AND THERMAL DYNAMICS. SEE THE VIDEO "WINDOW MOTOR ASSEMBLY" FOR A LOWER CURRENT TEST AND SIMPLIFIED CIRCUIT. I HAVE A NEW CIRCUIT IDEA AND MIGHT TRY THREE COILS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

TAKE CARE.

JOHN

[frehleyukito]

Some people doesn't understand nothing, voltage spike are energy from the vacuum, that spikes are generated by the heaviside flow in the space in the atoms of copper, when the currents go off the energy of the vacuum (heaviside flow) re enters the coil in form of low current high voltage energy.

When the current is on the electrons that are circulating the coil emits virtual photons and polarize the space near the copper atoms, (that is the heaviside flow) you must read Feynman, Evans, etc

[DadHav]

@frehleyukito

Thanks for the information. I will look up both your suggestions. I'm not sure there is any of the effect you mention going on with the window motor but I've had it running as low as 50 uA. This doesn't seem possible with a 2 pound rotor even if it spins easy. Discussing things like you mention will bring me hundreds of negative comments, so I have to be sure about such a thing before claiming such.

Thank's

John

[frehleyukito]

This device has two functions:

1º Make it bigger, bigger magnets bigger caps, acelerate it with a motor, decouple off the motor, now you have a free energy motor

2º make it bigger with the same circuit but tap the energy of the capacitor , use it, the motor must be another window coil connected to a battery, this will be a energy amplificator

[DadHav]

@frehleyukito

Thanks for watching. I have tried some similar experiments and have more planned. Good luck with your experiments.

John

[kdkinen]

beautiful work!!

[User2718218]

John Bedini alleges that this motor runs indefinitely on the Energetic Forum but the author of this clip clearly states that's not the case at the end of the clip. If you want to get the real low-down on Bedini motors go to the overunityresearch website and look at the threads in the Bedini section.

[koornj]

@User2718218

MileHigh, will you please go away!!! John Bedini DID NOT say that on EF. You are putting wrong words in people's mouths as usual. How much are they paying you???

John K.

[DadHav]

@koornj

Thanks John. More than anything, I'm just trying to show the hobbyist they can make a simple and nice brushless motor that can run an a bookshelf for probably a year or more on a single alkaline or rechargeable battery. This one will run indefinitely on a tiny solar key chain flashlight that you can buy for $1.50. Or at least it will run until the cells where out. I can't prove the efficiency is due to anything other than a unique circuit and a good build.

John H

[User2718218]

@koornj Nobody's paying me, don't be ridiculous. You are the one that's being paid as a reseller. The full John Bedini quote from the "Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor" is posted elsewhere here in this thread. "well some run themselves" is the key phrase. If you want to actually understand how a Bedini motor really works, and how a discharging inductor really works, read the Bedini threads on the overunityresearch web site. It would do you a great deal of good.

[koornj]

@User2718218

Exactly my point! Where in that quote is the word "indefinitely"? Also, you have NO IDEA what my business relationship is as a dealer, so please get your facts straight before posting. How about YOU actually build a Bedini motor to find out how it works instead of just assuming??

@DadHav, apologies for the slanging match. Please feel free to delete these comments if you please.

John K.

[User2718218]

@koornj You can try to wiggle out of the the phrase "some run themselves" all you want but you are snared. Bedini made a false claim about this clip as part of his overall charade. You probably get a 25%-35% discount on Bedini related stuff that you resell and you clinging to that revenue stream like a bulldog. When an inductor discharges its energy it acts like a current source, and that's how you get voltage spikes. It's not "radiant energy," that's a LIE used to make money.

[DadHav]

@User2718218

User. Yes. I'll say it again. This motor does slowly drain the source. but I challenge you or anyone on your forum to run a 2 pound rotor while drawing only 50 uA. See the video link at the end of this video. I could easily fake OU with the multimeter not changing until I set it to 5 digits. I could also hook it to a large capacity battery and say it will run indefinitely. It would take 10 years to prove otherwise. I never heard JB claim his window motor runs indefinitely.

[DadHav]

@DadHav

My claim here and on the last video is. This is a very simple efficient pulse circuit that can run a brushless motor. The capacitors can be charged from rotating the motor and then drain slowly. That's my claim. Anyone can experience this experiment if they have a moderate amount of talent. If you have a problem with what I'm doing here we can talk about that. If you want to bash Bedini do it some where else where someone is eluding to free energy.

John

[User2718218]

@DadHav Here is the quote from John Bedini about your clip, "No missing link on the window motor, go on youtube and look at what people have built that run will well some run themselves. John B." Nobody's paying me that's ridiculous. You build absolutely beautiful stuff and I enjoy your clips. The Bedini group just demonstrated a 10-coiler motor with a battery swapper and allege it's over unity without any hard data, just anecdotal evidence. Just setting the record straight.

[DadHav]

@User2718218

User. I don't have a clue about who you are or what your mission is. Someone else made the comment about being paid off. I didn't do that. I have no idea how my videos have been referenced on the Internet. I try not to mislead anyone who visits the channel. I guarantee one thing. If I'm ever convinced I'm at over unity I'll be sure to have credible evidence, even though it's likely that most won't believe it anyway.

We can always have a conversation as long as it's civil.

J

[User2718218]

@DadHav Hi John. Sorry I was responding to John Koorn about the allegations that someone was paying me. I am just an ordinary guy trying to represent common sense and science. The fact that a discharging inductor can create voltage spikes amazes some people and they believe that "vacuum energy" is in play. They just about refuse to believe that a coil obeys the conservation of energy. Bedini calls this "radiant energy" and makes money off of gullible people and it's very offensive to me.

[giacotey]

need schematics ...!

[DadHav]

@giacotey

Just do a search for "Bedini Sequential Bipolar Circuit"

John

[jiffycoil]

You sir are an artist. Your builds are beautiful.

[DadHav]

@jiffycoil

Thank's Jiffy. I like your little Tesla coil. I envy you, Rusty, Johny and all the others that understand that stuff. I can't seem to get a grasp on it.

Take Care.

John

[jiffycoil]

@DadHav

John, all of us are explorers in new territory. You have more grasp than you give yourself credit. If you don't grasp it then you are one hell of an intuitive replicator. All of us strive to reach your level of building and performance. Cheers to you!

Michael

[JoeFitant]

The motor would run much longer (higher efficiency) if the motor was enclosed and restricted air resistance. Much longer runtimes would be had in a vaccuum. Moving air is wasting the battery energy but cooler to watch.

[DadHav]

@srdickens I looked at your page and visited the energy site where I read the entire string from your link. The experiment was interesting but very reminiscent of a Tesla switch experiment. There was nothing on the string to indicate an accurate reading of total voltage drop over any particular time interval. I've run charge and swap experiments with this and run for weeks with voltage drops measuring in the millivolt range. (AA rechargeables)

Thanks for link to the interesting thread.

John

[wdiabc]

can you send a copy of your circuit to me ? wdiabc@gmail.com

I really admire your work. btw, it is running on caps, so it charges itself right? I guess you built a over unity machine, Great Job!

[DadHav]

@wdiabc The circuit can be found if you Google Bedini Sequential Bipolar Circuit. No the motor is not running at over unity, but it is very efficient.

John

[01nirolf]

de circuit coed jou bayet froom a stoor

[DadHav]

@01nirolf Check private messages.

J

[01nirolf]

@01nirolf ok men

[01nirolf]

@01nirolf ok men ay will do my wey

[01nirolf]

do you meyk foor somwoan eels de rotor

[DadHav]

@01nirolf

Sorry. It's not practical for me to try making parts for sale. They are to much work with the machinery I have.

John

[01nirolf]

ok fenks

[llewgnal]

 Sure is beautiful workmanship...

Gary

[DadHav]

@llewgnal

Thank you Gary. I appreciate that.

J

[marthale7]

Always quality work, great stuff. What type of bearings are you using?

[DadHav]

@marthale7 Sorry I didn't notice your question earlier. The bearings ar rather inexpensive, and could be better. These are ceramic balls in stainless races. Thery are from R/C model cars.

J

[MotorMill]

You should try using a levitating motor. That seems to make them even more efficient, because the friction is reduced.

[DadHav]

@MotorMill

You are right about that and it is in my plans. Just trying to get to it. Check out Skycollection on the tube.

John

[jackwestly]

DadHav:

Where you put the capacitor on the bedini circuit? Can you send me the schematic diagram. Thanks

[DadHav]

Jack, Simply put a large capacitor in place of the run battery. The capacitors I used are 20 farad. 2.7 volt. They are physically small but very large in capacity. Depending on the motor used you may be able to charge the capacitor by turning the rotor. Other wise you have to charge the capacitor before running the motor.

John

[hopeso]

I just came across this and I'm most interested. Does this demonstrate a motor that is running without any input power? Perpetual motion ? Capacitors, once charged by manually spinning the rotor, then sustain the motor run indefinitely ?

I can picture this concept being practical when scaled up.

Thanks for the vid, I'll do some more research on this.

[DadHav]

@hopeso I wish it where the case, but the motor is just incredibly efficient. It is running strictly on the capacitor though. It will run for several days if the capacitor is charged fully. About 400 of these motors could run on the current it takes to light up one light emitting diode. That would be about 800 lbs of steel moving for about 20 milliamps of current. I know that sounds good but the 2 pound rotor is very free wheeling.

J

[beneehall]

@DadHav So with this kind of effciency, wouldn't this have application in something like a generator ? Particularly if scaled up ?

[DadHav]

Ben, I'm really not sure where to go from here. Here's an idea though. A very large diameter wheel which can be spun up to a very high rpm from a solar panel while the panel is doing it's normal operation might be able to run a small generator until the wheel spins down and is ready for light to recharge it again. Or it would be nice to improve the motor until it can run at unity or over.

John

[erionmema1]

keep trying dude this looks amazing!!!!!!

I would love to see what the OIL companies have to say at this!!!

thanks for bringing the future today and having the balls to show us.

to the skeptic people: - shut the fuck up!!

[DadHav]

Thank you my friend. I just present it as it is and hope what I do might inspire an idea in someones head that will someday be important to everyone. My time is running out. The skeptics have a right t their opinion but most of them are just out to hurt anyone they can. Many of them have no videos uploaded to show how much they really know.

Thanks for dropping in.

John

[fdoca]

Well said, John,

Why are they hanging around all the energy motor videos site? if they don't beiieve in low enery motor?

5 starts!! A truely elegant motor...

[molinobeer]

@DadHav

I can't see no difference between this and a conventional brushless motor.. can you please explain me?

[DadHav]

@molinobeer A regular brushless motor is usually 3 phase. This is a pulse motor and the motor itself sets the timing for the trigger pulse which runs the motor. Not quit the same.

John

[metalmanexetreme]

@DadHav

im not preticed at this stuff, but it does interest me, and i have a question/idea

that id like you to tell me your opinion on, so the motor seems to hold a charge due to the capacitors

so if prehaps you added a solar panel or two added a coupld more capacitor to it charged them all up

and added a Aluminum (not magnetic substance) arm with a timer set every so often to give it a quick boost, would this boost preformance, or only be a hassle on the already efficient system, and

[metalmanexetreme]

@DadHav

and also do you have any tips for someone whos looking to get into the study?

[valveman12]

Oil Companies would say nothing because although this is a nice demonstration, it has no practical application. Question everything, always be skeptical and never shut the **** up!!

[JoeFitant]

@valveman12 We have scientists that never did shut up and documented their findings for the last few centuries. Now the educated people listen to their findings so they don''t have to reinvent the wheel again. These are laid out as basic laws of physics and taught in schools.

.

Bedini scammers do not learn from their predecessors and waste time and money.

[DadHav]

@valveman12

Guys, I just happen to like making motors. The fact that you don't like Bedini is OK with me. The fact is he published a nice little experimental pulse circuit that can run my bookshelf brushless motor. It's running at micro amps in the video but at less than 200 milliamps you can hardly stop the motor by holding the shaft. I've used a Hall Effect add on which allowed self start and forward / reverse. The project doesn't have to be practical for me to enjoy it.

John

[valveman12]

@erionmema1 Nice language.

[tortuga0303]

Absolutely fantastic craftsmanship. I would recommend switching to much smaller switching Mosfets, or switching transistors like the 2n2222 or many others could work. You will find that you are using huge switching devices for the job you need to do, you could reduce switching losses considerably at this point which is probably eating a good 50% of your power!

[DadHav]

Hello, Yes, I have two other videos on the site with 2n-2222 for the driver and mpsa 056 and 06 for the power side. Since the follow up videos to this one, I've even dropped lower. I estimate the running current to be around 40 micro amps. The drain the a single 20 farad 2.7 volt super cap is .022 volts per every hour. This would mean a few days to drop 1 volt.

John

[DadHav]

Tortuga, I've been on your channel and appreciate your knowledge and experiments. Do you think it possible to make use of resonant tuning or some other application of inductors to bring the current draw down further?

John

[tortuga0303]

@DadHav

One thing I had thought was to rotate the generator winding 90 degrees so that there is absolutely no transformer action between it and the other coils. But that is the key, how do you create resonance and rotation, where the rotation of the rotor does not affect the resonant circuit.

[DadHav]

Thank your. I have some zero threshold mosfets. I'm going to try making a mini commutator, using a separate disk with 1/16" diameter magnets. I should be able to trigger with 10' of #40 wire or something like that.

Thanks

John

[alfacentauro1111]

Very good job 5*

[heberorozco]

oh nice that's for the helis? you can put it in ebay

[heberorozco]

and what you can do with this?

[DadHav]

That my friend is a really good question. I could certainly sell a lot of them to people asking if I cared to make more. Sorry to see you crashed the Helli. The cat will get over it. My two dogs are scared to death when I fly mine.

John

[labpsycho]

Too bad some of your creative masterpieces aren't up for auction on ebay...or are they?

[DadHav]

Psycho. Maybe some day, but not to lickely.

J

[hernowo1]

Nice..., can you please send our circuit for me ?

[DadHav]

Hern. Just google Bedini Sequential Bipolar Circuit. You should find plenty of what you need.

John

[DadHav]

To my viewers and subscribers: Do to the unfavorable comments I decided to post two more videos showing my voltage and current tests. Please look at Window Motor Capacitor / Voltage Test and Window Motor Capacitor / Current Test. These videos actually came out better than my original claims. Someone here questioned why I was using two capacitors in series, so I tried one and found out that one of the original two capacitors was damaged. So thanks for that one Dragon.

Enjoy the new videos.

John

[DragonToko]

Well, about a power - you have mentioned that you can achieve power of 1/12 of a HP. 1 HP is about 750 Watts. Divided by 12 would be arround 60 Watts. With voltage 5 Volts your would need about 10-15 Amps. Way too high.

Secondly why do you use powerful transistors for such low power device?

Why need to use high capasity Caps if that would be nearly equal to a battery? Anyway, I don't think such home-made devices would be more advanced than commercial Item. But I like your neat machined parts!

[DadHav]

Hello Dragon. My estimate of power was not very sophisticated. I set an AC 110v motor on the table that was 1/12 HP. I was able to stop the shaft easily with my fingers. The window motor was running at 20 volts and 220 milliamperes and was very hard to stall by grabbing the shaft. Efficiency is an issue. I have an airplane that flys at 400 watts, the motor is less than 2 inches in diameter. Half horsepower? Window pulse motors are very strong and efficient, thats why people like to make them

J

[electrician725]

@DadHav: With many "FE" motors the shaft output HP is higher than the wattage input implies. You could build a small _prony brake_ and put it on a postal scale to measure torque, then use the HP = Tq X RPM/5252 formula to figure actual shaft output and compare that to the wattage consumed. The "ROTOVERTER" as it is known consumes just 200 watts to produce 1 shaft HP but it is heavily modified, and derated from it's original HP rating of 3 to 5 HP 3 phase 480 VAC. New input is 120VAC single phase

[DadHav]

Somewhere down the line I'll have to make something to figure out torque. I'll have to give it some thought. There is probably something on the electric motor forums. I have an idea. There are torque charts related to swinging airplane propellers. There are even calculators. Maybe it could apply.

John

[electrician725]

A PRONY BRAKE is really simple, basically a clamp on the end of the rotor, on a 12" lever that presses down on the postal scale. The clamp is tightened to lug the rotor down to the test RPM. It must slip to maintain RPM while still loading the rotor. RPM must remain constant for a good reading, so adjustability is important.

Rob

[DadHav]

I See. So if I take a stator motor and couple it to the shaft It will become a generator. I could add a variable l-pad or high wattage resistor to increase the load on the motor. Then the lever with a pressure transducer of the scale. That would be a smooth operation. I'll think about that some more.

John

[DadHav]

Large transistors because it was the original circuit diagram. I started there to make sure it would work. I have a revised circuit which is half bipolar made from small transistors, no resistors other than the potentiometer and Shottkey diodes for the bridge. It works very nice I will use it in the next video. I can use smaller caps. I had these and I could have put them parallel for more capacity. I could have faked it self running but I make the comment that the caps will drain off.

J

[DadHav]

Right in most cases hand made motors would not be more advanced BUT, my hand mad airplane motors are noted to be better in performance and quality than almost any thing you can buy, so its possible. I am considering working on an airplane motor based on the window motor principals. Oh Boy, will that one ever leave me open for ridicule!

John

[fdoca]

Hi John...considering working on an airplane motor based on the window motor principals ? that would be great.... i am looking forward to see it,

BTW, The airplane motor (Out runner motor?) are comsumming lot juice, if by reverse as a generator can they produce same amoung juice ? Thks

[electrician725]

@DragonToko: Good comment, see my reply to DadHav below>

[DragonToko]

At the beginning motor was idle, that would be enough to discharge your capasitors. By the way, why have you connected them in series? Don't you know that would twice reduce the capasity? why not to have 40 Farades, not just 10?

0.001 Volts x 0.000015Amps = 0.000000015 Watt

Drawn every 20 seconds. U know what I mean! U sound rediculous man. And in respect to great physicians let me tell you Farads are written with capital F.

Wonder what you gonna make next!

[DadHav]

Dragon. Wrong again. Sitting idle the motor draws no current. It is a pulse motor. The caps are in series because they are only 2.7 volts each and sometimes I like to charge them to 5 volts for experiments. On a very expensive meter with the range set to uA the reading is 150-225 depending on tuning. What ever that is, then that's what it is. I've had the motor run a month on a hearing aid battery. Sorry about the capital F. By the way you spelled Farads as Farades above.

J

[DadHav]

Dragon, I'll make a video and you can have a look at what I see. Since this is a pulse motor, most conventional meters are not accurate. I have another meter in transit. I will try this one and see what I get. I can't be sure about your calculation, I'm a Journeyman Die Maker not a mathematician. My electronics schooling is 40 yrs. old. On caps the motor was at about 3 volts. The feedback measured to be an oscillation of about 10 volts. This helps keep the battery from running down to fast.

J

[DadHav]

Dragon, I don't think your calculation is right. Watts=Volts x Amps Right? .001 volts is the amount of voltage drop on the capacitor over 20 seconds not the running voltage. The voltage on the cap is 3 volts while running so 3 x .000200 or 200 uA equals .006 watts or 6 Milli-watts. Correct me if I'm wrong or anyone. Does this sound more reasonable to you now. I will show this in an up coming video or at least as close as I can. A lot of things effect measurements at that low draw.

John

[DadHav]

Dragon, Be sure to have a look at the new videos when you have time.

John

[DragonToko]

Give us proper diagram of what you have made. Your two capasitors would be about 2200 uF (micro Farades) each. how two of them can power this motor? Man, stop loading your sheet here! I'm sure you can have good bearings and heavy rorot would keep rotating by inertion given from your hand.

That's complete !bullsheet!

Show us this motor to do actually some work. Running on capasitors. No way you can do that!

[DadHav]

The diagrams are public domain from the inventor (John Bedini and are posted everywhere. I won't give YOU anything. The caps are 20 farad. Your way off. They discharge at a rate of .001 volts every 20 seconds. The charge is put in them from manually spinning the rotor. Your wrong about the bearings. The motor can produce 1/12 hp if driven at 200 ma rather than the 150 micro amps shown here. Don't call me a liar Sheet Head. Everyone familiar with this technology can do this and they do.

[DadHav]

To My viewers and subscribers: I apologize for loosing my temper with idiots like Drag. I am not trying to trick anyone into believing anything. Most people watching are familiar with pulse technology and the work of John Bedini. If you are not, please google JB and read a little before you pass judgment. You may find it interesting.

RGDS

John

[DadHav]

The windings are three strands. 2 strands of #32 wire for triggers and 1 strand of #23 wire as the power coil. They are about 400 feet each in length and come out to about 400 turns on the motor. I have 2 rotors one steel and one nylon. the magnets are N50 neo, 1/4 x 1/2 x 2" long (6) The bearings are ceramic. The shaft is non magnetic stainless.

[iploat]

Dear sir,

Would u decribe the size of the winding wire & flux Wb ?

[Mr786aziz]

hi john, i would like to build your capacitor motor like yours can u help me build one or suppliy me some parts i would like to buy and pay for post keep on your good work

[DadHav]

Serkan. The circuit is the John Bedini Sequential Bipolar Circuit. If you google it you will find what you need. The circuit board is just a generic project board from Radio Shack.

[living4game]

Hello, Could you tell me hwat is the circuit? what matrials has been used on this circuit? Is there any circuit schematics? Best Regards

Serkan

[DadHav]

It's in my mind but seems to not be within my grip. I think I'll have a nice conversation piece sitting on a shelf and running for years on an alkaline battery.

John

[diegra1]

Hi John:

Excellent work.

Have in mind produce an overunity or selfrunner?

Thanks and regards

[DadHav]

The circuit is the Bedini sequential half bipolar circuit. The magnets are alternate north and south. The capacitor can charge from a power supply in a few minutes. It takes much longer to crank them up by turning the rotor.

John

[diegra1]

Hi:

The circuit "half wave" of the mini, is a basic circuit SSG, or has changed?

The position of the magnets in the rotor is north-south or just north?

How long does it take to charge the capacitors?

Thanks and regards

[DadHav]

Thanks. Small works good. When I'm completely satisfied I can go big.

John

[1Robomaker]

Fine work!!! I appreciate your thought to scale down in size. Your attention to detail is VERY well done. a work of art and science!

[diegra1]

Hi:

What is the value of the capacitors?

How long can function only with the capacitors (on average)?

Thanks and regards

[DadHav]

The capacitors are small but large. 20 farad at 2.7 volts *2 in series). Charged to 5 volts the motor will run with this circuit for about 5 hours. If I use my new half wave miniature circuit it will run for more than a day, maybe much longer if the tuning is adjusted as the voltage drops.

John

[DadHav]

The capacitors will eventually run down and need to be charged again by spinning the rotor. Do a search for John Bedini and you will find circuits on various sites.

John

[diegra1]

Hi:

I do not understand English well.

The WM 2 works only with capacitors on the video? Is a self running?

Could publish the circuit WM 2?

Thanks and regards

[DadHav]

I'll help if I can. Fire away, or send a private message.

John

[DadHav]

Just do a search for John Bedini and you should find what you need.

John

[scooterscottii]

FINE work! Would you mind answering a couple of basic questions about the sequential bipolar circuit? I have the schematic and parts and I have started the circuit build but there are a couple of details I can't quite get from the schematic diagram. I would REALLY appreciate it if you have the time! Scott

[giacotey]

GREAT WORK!...need schematic cirquit !

[scooterscottii]

GREAT WORK! You thanked US for watching LOL. Not only informative but also a well thought out and presented vid. THANKS!

[fdoca]

5 Stars !!

your high speed motor can add a verticle pick up coil for OU

Beautiful job, Conr...

[008626]

Excellent plexi work

[DadHav]

Newt was a cool guy. The unfortunate thing about that, I imagine, Friction, gravity and resistance even from the air around us are all against something staying in motion.

John

[studentofscience]

I think you did a really nice job looks like a lot of work. I am struggling to understand it all. Newton say that an object in motion will stay in motion till another force stops it.

[DadHav]

Daftman is one of my favorites. I'm going to start working on a special hall effect commutator instead of reed switches. I have an idea on how to us a latch instead of the standard type hall.

Thanks

John

[marthale7]

That is AWESOME. I sure wish I could have you build me the rotor and the Plexi glass.

I would recommend that you try Daftman's Bedini / Newman circuit on this. It uses a reed switch I bet with your setup it would just fly.

3 Cheers and 5 stars.

[cest73]

Nice build, nice quality, as usual ;-)

[DadHav]

Thank you. Sooner or later I'll update my drawings and make them available. I appreciate your nice comments. Unfortunately, I have a lot to learn about the circuitry options yet.

John

[Welesly77]

I posted a comment on the monopole list regarding these :) Just figured others would want to see them. again, great work!

[Welesly77]

Nice work! I really admire your fabrication abilities. You really know how to build a motor. It is just my humble opinion, but I think you have the skills to really advance the bedini technology for experimenters. With your knowledge of both electronics and fabrication not to mention practical motor design and construction, if you were to document your builds with prints as a set of plans, people would jump all over them! I would. Again, excellent work!

[DadHav]

Thanks Sky, Everyone. The circuit is the Bedini Sequential Bipolar circuit. You can do a search to find it. The circuit uses two trigger coils and one driver coil.

John

[skycollection]

brilliant work, i like the quality and construction. what circuit did you used?

thanks for sharing...!

[medi40]

Brilliant. One of the most impressive windows motor I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing again.

[mgcbear]

Beautiful work sir