Kathy Griffin does a HILARIOUS clip on $cientology - you'll pee your pants. The first Tory video at CFI is freaking hysterical too. She's not afraid to burn herself and she's been spreading the Word ever since breaking free.
Hubbard studied techniques Hitler & others used to gain & maintain control of people. It begins with enticing you into a feel good situation, whether it be joining a cause for or against something, a solution to ones problems, promises of wealth. There's praise for joining & a sense of belonging. To keep the praise coming you've got to go deeper into the rabbit hole & the deeper you go the more dire the consequences for leaving. Highly effective, extremely dangerous. Thanks for exposing it.
What amazes me is why it takes that long time for people to find out that they are in a manipulative brainwashing cult? I mean they live it out every day, they are a part of their rules. Why dont they break out already when they found out how controlling they are?
@globe255 Brainwashing it really messes you up, talk to people who are married to physically abusive people or survivors of long-term kidnappings. Brainwashing changes people and makes them do things they wouldn't ever do.
@mannymous Yes you are right i know they cant break from it simply because of the brainwashing. Anyway sometimes some people who probably not are that brainwashed will succeed to get out.
Well, I am a Christian, and I go by the bible. When people deviat from that, that is when the "Wack Jobs" are created (I.E. the Crusades, Jones Town....etc...)
I see nothing wrong with not believing in God or gods. But I noticed that all the negative aspects and abuses of scientology she pointed out are the SAME as those of Christianity. Christians, scientologist,muslims, are all wack jobs.
Scientologist would NOT like me in thier group. I wish a motherfucka WOULD try to tell me what to do. I'm all about opening up a good ol American can of wup ass!
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Where's this disaster with the Religious Right in the White House she's mentioning? That's the BEST way to lose credibility. Seems you've gone from being one Kool-Aid drinker (Scientology) to another Kool-Aid drinker (Leftist Progressive). Sad, really.
27:10 Your not hacking the computer just asking for more information.....
That's brilliant, particularly seeing though Scientology uses the computer as an analogee for the mind and that information and knowledge is what they are all about.....
Scientology is gonna take some big hits in 2009. They got lots of money so its gonna take a while to bleed em out, but if they can't get new members their money source will be cut off. Educate people about what Scientology is really all about.
Until Scientologists start suing suicide bombers to spread their message then I have no problem with them .....I wish I could say the same for Muslims .
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Until Scientologists start suing suicide bombers to spread their message then I have no problem with them .....I wish I could say the same for Muslims .
meh, I see what you are saying but I wonder if you are aware of the conditions and treatment of the sea org personnel who are literally slaves to the religion. They may not be suicide bombers but they are guilty of some pretty vile actions
Great speech Tory and well done on speaking out against the abuses. you have a lot more courage than I do. Did Jason Beghe ever come to one of your conferences? or john sweeny? you should give a tape of one of these to the tabloids or CNN or something so everyone can be more aware. Oh! wat would tom cruise say if he saw this. LOL!
(oops! I forgot, you'll see this on Xenutv. Well, sign up for that--and then after click on ToryMagoo44, too. That way you get notices for both of us, and easily you seriously do damage to Scientology. (They HATE knowledge about them getting out that they don't want known).
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and the evangelicals, catholics, protestants born again christians, the family international, jews, sunni and shia muslims, greek orthodox and russian orthodox christians, new agers, bla bla bla bla... it's a matter of degree not difference in type.
There is a great difference ProcessLoH. The religions you mentioned were not begun as a business "as alternative to psychology", & to make money. Plus, those religions were not founded by a Schizophrenic child molester. Although many people throughout history have twisted & used those religions for selfish &/or violent motives, that does not mean that those things are included in their doctrine, but are merely the independent act[s] of a looney or fringe group who get it very wrong. Study.
Indeed. My ancestors came from Lithuania because they had to leave Portugal--a little matter of the Holy Roman Inquisition. That being said, two wrongs don't make a right. None of what other religions have done makes anything Scientology does right. Even if you think it's really a religion, which it isn't.
Good point, thank you. Did I say they were all great? I think I said *I* think it's great that they're out doing something pro-active. That's my view. Are they all "Great"? errr.....I think in ANY group---there are nice people, funny people, jerks, and just many different types of people. Happily,
I've met MANY of the nice people!
Hope that helps some, and thanks for the reminder.
It's great that some Anonymous are protesting about Scientology, but do remember that they don't constitute all of Anonymous, that they are a diverse group and don't all share the same view, and that the fact that some do oppose Scientology doesn't automatically mean that they are all great people.
No new information, but the art of the speech is getting better. Scientologists being good people? That's in conflict with Dr. Ed Lottick appraisal that scientology is a school for psychopaths.
I'd like to hear more about what happened in those 30 years you were in. That takes us back to right after the aftermath of the FBI raids and the 11 being sent to prison. Did you see any wrongdoing in the early years?
7 young people.. THANK YOU!!! This is the story you NEED to be telling... FINALLY.. thank you. Stick with it Ms. Christman... you DO know what and where and how to say things... just remember "PLACE IN CULTURE." That's the trick.. that's the whole trick.. PICKING your battles.
Ive decided not to be actively working against Co$ trough Anonymous.
However, beating Anonymous trough the means that Scientology is will NEVER work. But as Anonymous is an ideal, and not an actually organised group will probably be hard.
Anonymous will work as an army, but won't win the battle by itself.
Which is good with people like you tory, you'r a critique with "a face". As in, you identible. Then Anonymous can stand for the uncountable numbers.
Does anyone know why all the comments just are pages of repeated 4 comments, unless you hit "View all 46 comments"? Then you see them all-for real. Just curious---seems odd. Is it just another YT glitch?
Thanks for your many kind comments ---I'm glad you've enjoyed it!
Did you guys get the sense that there was a Scientology stooge was in the audience? They would have to send someone that is in deep not to be moved by the talk...
Thank YOU, Tori! We must keep fighting this mega-corporate-greed machine. I've lived in Pinellas County for over 20 years, & I can see what they are up to- daily.
Wow, Tory summed up some of the best, thought-provoking explanations as to what Scientology is in a half an hour. Although to really explain how abusive they are would take several hours, maybe even days.
Thanks Mark for filming this, and thanks to all of you for your kind comments :) Lastly, thanks to C.F.I. They are a great group of people, and have been super kind to me.
What an excellent presentation! So well-delivered. Very focused and informative. And you light-up the room with your personality alone even before you layout the message. Again, bravo!!
Very good speech. She was hitting on some good points that a lot of people don't know about like the fraud and deaths due to lack of care and suicides. Keep spreading the message Tory!
"ANYONE can get snagged up in a cult, if they're at the wrong place, at the wrong time: ANYONE".
Also, they have written and stated often "People who join cults are not only *not* dumb/sheep---they are quite smart people. That's why they joined: they were looking for something better".
Kathy Griffin does a HILARIOUS clip on $cientology - you'll pee your pants. The first Tory video at CFI is freaking hysterical too. She's not afraid to burn herself and she's been spreading the Word ever since breaking free.
bumcheek7 4 weeks ago
Hubbard studied techniques Hitler & others used to gain & maintain control of people. It begins with enticing you into a feel good situation, whether it be joining a cause for or against something, a solution to ones problems, promises of wealth. There's praise for joining & a sense of belonging. To keep the praise coming you've got to go deeper into the rabbit hole & the deeper you go the more dire the consequences for leaving. Highly effective, extremely dangerous. Thanks for exposing it.
TonopahGreg 2 months ago
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Much respect from an Anonymous proud supporter and believe me We do not forgive and we do not forget, EXPECT US! #OccupyTheWorld!
ECWIWCW2 3 months ago
What amazes me is why it takes that long time for people to find out that they are in a manipulative brainwashing cult? I mean they live it out every day, they are a part of their rules. Why dont they break out already when they found out how controlling they are?
globe255 1 year ago
@globe255 Brainwashing it really messes you up, talk to people who are married to physically abusive people or survivors of long-term kidnappings. Brainwashing changes people and makes them do things they wouldn't ever do.
mannymous 1 year ago
@mannymous Yes you are right i know they cant break from it simply because of the brainwashing. Anyway sometimes some people who probably not are that brainwashed will succeed to get out.
globe255 1 year ago
Well, I am a Christian, and I go by the bible. When people deviat from that, that is when the "Wack Jobs" are created (I.E. the Crusades, Jones Town....etc...)
JADavis77 1 year ago
I see nothing wrong with not believing in God or gods. But I noticed that all the negative aspects and abuses of scientology she pointed out are the SAME as those of Christianity. Christians, scientologist,muslims, are all wack jobs.
tropicalpimp 2 years ago
Scientologist would NOT like me in thier group. I wish a motherfucka WOULD try to tell me what to do. I'm all about opening up a good ol American can of wup ass!
tropicalpimp 2 years ago
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Where's this disaster with the Religious Right in the White House she's mentioning? That's the BEST way to lose credibility. Seems you've gone from being one Kool-Aid drinker (Scientology) to another Kool-Aid drinker (Leftist Progressive). Sad, really.
Yarigafuru 2 years ago
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Sound's like more lie's to me!
cyqarra 2 years ago
What about it do you consider a lie?
LordBalto 2 years ago
You go and take out those Scientologists.
BlueVioletta1987 2 years ago
27:10 Your not hacking the computer just asking for more information.....
That's brilliant, particularly seeing though Scientology uses the computer as an analogee for the mind and that information and knowledge is what they are all about.....
What happens....they crash LOL
Speaker4Truth 2 years ago
Scientology is gonna take some big hits in 2009. They got lots of money so its gonna take a while to bleed em out, but if they can't get new members their money source will be cut off. Educate people about what Scientology is really all about.
sparkman555 3 years ago 8
What kind of religion sends it members to threaten harass and assault individuals at there homes simply because they spoke against the Cult.
Scientology is as close to religion as the GD Mafia!!!
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago 7
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Until Scientologists start suing suicide bombers to spread their message then I have no problem with them .....I wish I could say the same for Muslims .
GotThatPMA 3 years ago
"You need to get more responsible Tory"? Is what they said to this woman after a grand mal? How perfectly vile.
skoek 3 years ago 2
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Until Scientologists start suing suicide bombers to spread their message then I have no problem with them .....I wish I could say the same for Muslims .
slLLyhumans 3 years ago
meh, I see what you are saying but I wonder if you are aware of the conditions and treatment of the sea org personnel who are literally slaves to the religion. They may not be suicide bombers but they are guilty of some pretty vile actions
damo2353 3 years ago
YES! they are, just ask Lisa McPherson or Shawn Lonsdale or Uwe Stuckenbrock. Read their stories
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago 4
What a delightful, brave and enlightened presence Tory is...
wayout71 3 years ago 26
Agreed, she is just a darling woman. So endearing.
skoek 3 years ago 4
"We don't have time for them Tory we'll get them next life"
Why am I not suprised!
Respect from the Toronto Cell of anonymous.
soulinite 3 years ago 14
I love hearing tory speak! thank you for uploading this Mr bunker!
Respect and props from the Toronto Cell of Anon.
Hail Xenu!
soulinite 3 years ago 12
Get out your ninja gear and fire up the printer for this weekend!
Enturbulation(dot)org
Think tank:Operation Cruise!
kdb955 3 years ago 4
10-4 good buddy! hail Xenu!
soulinite 3 years ago 2
That was one hell of an awesome speech. Bravo!
Anonymous421 3 years ago 2
Great speech Tory and well done on speaking out against the abuses. you have a lot more courage than I do. Did Jason Beghe ever come to one of your conferences? or john sweeny? you should give a tape of one of these to the tabloids or CNN or something so everyone can be more aware. Oh! wat would tom cruise say if he saw this. LOL!
musketeer86 3 years ago 3
Great talk as usual, Tory. Thanks to Mark for recording/posting.
HouseSpiderAnon 3 years ago 4
(oops! I forgot, you'll see this on Xenutv. Well, sign up for that--and then after click on ToryMagoo44, too. That way you get notices for both of us, and easily you seriously do damage to Scientology. (They HATE knowledge about them getting out that they don't want known).
:)
T
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
If you're new here, please subscribe to my YouTube site---then you'll get notices of any new videos. (It's the big yellow button on the main page here--just click ToryMagoo44 at the top and you'll see it.
Also, thanks for your many kind comments!
Best,
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ToryMagoo44 3 years ago 2
When Scientology falls, the only powerful cults left in the USA would be Radical Islamic Mosques, 9/11 Truther cult, and the Moonies.
takerdust 3 years ago
And mormonism
johnPhilos 3 years ago
and the evangelicals, catholics, protestants born again christians, the family international, jews, sunni and shia muslims, greek orthodox and russian orthodox christians, new agers, bla bla bla bla... it's a matter of degree not difference in type.
ProcessLoH 3 years ago
There is a great difference ProcessLoH. The religions you mentioned were not begun as a business "as alternative to psychology", & to make money. Plus, those religions were not founded by a Schizophrenic child molester. Although many people throughout history have twisted & used those religions for selfish &/or violent motives, that does not mean that those things are included in their doctrine, but are merely the independent act[s] of a looney or fringe group who get it very wrong. Study.
haypenny 2 years ago
Indeed. My ancestors came from Lithuania because they had to leave Portugal--a little matter of the Holy Roman Inquisition. That being said, two wrongs don't make a right. None of what other religions have done makes anything Scientology does right. Even if you think it's really a religion, which it isn't.
LordBalto 2 years ago
Excellent talk,Tory.The only thing missing was some discussion of the RPF.I mean,what kind of religion keeps punishment/slave labour camps?
Thanks for being a powerful speaker against this dreadful cult.
blackwhimsy 3 years ago
Good point, thank you. Did I say they were all great? I think I said *I* think it's great that they're out doing something pro-active. That's my view. Are they all "Great"? errr.....I think in ANY group---there are nice people, funny people, jerks, and just many different types of people. Happily,
I've met MANY of the nice people!
Hope that helps some, and thanks for the reminder.
Tory/Magoo~~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
It's great that some Anonymous are protesting about Scientology, but do remember that they don't constitute all of Anonymous, that they are a diverse group and don't all share the same view, and that the fact that some do oppose Scientology doesn't automatically mean that they are all great people.
n14e5o15 3 years ago
Thanks for the video Mark and Tory.
clintonneal1 3 years ago 2
Finally an update.. thank goodness. Love your videos Mark!
shasaki1 3 years ago 3
No new information, but the art of the speech is getting better. Scientologists being good people? That's in conflict with Dr. Ed Lottick appraisal that scientology is a school for psychopaths.
I'd like to hear more about what happened in those 30 years you were in. That takes us back to right after the aftermath of the FBI raids and the 11 being sent to prison. Did you see any wrongdoing in the early years?
TomKlemesrud 3 years ago
It is a theory that Scientology scoops up mentally ill people and keeps them away from psychiatrists.
Sad!
ooo00100ooo 3 years ago
another wonderful presentation Tory. Thank you very much for weathering the storm.
Phil scott
PScottrwp 3 years ago 2
Way to go, Tory!!! Kudos to XenuTV and the Center for Inquiry West for this wonderful update!
4Christ4ever 3 years ago 3
Tory's public speaking has greatly improved these last several years.
takerdust 3 years ago
oh score!
scrumpmonkey 3 years ago 2
Thank you....
aldahat 3 years ago 3
go tori go
SarafinaPrettyToes 3 years ago
I support you Tory :D But I know you have time restraints but I LOVE to hear your stories and you stop yourself. :/
iiswansongii 3 years ago
Great stuff :D Way to go, Tory :D
xenuismaster 3 years ago 2
her speeches are my favorite vids.... tory your awsome for going out there and telling ur story....just awsome
ohbuddyiliketowatch 3 years ago 3
7 young people.. THANK YOU!!! This is the story you NEED to be telling... FINALLY.. thank you. Stick with it Ms. Christman... you DO know what and where and how to say things... just remember "PLACE IN CULTURE." That's the trick.. that's the whole trick.. PICKING your battles.
Christians4Tommorrow 3 years ago 2
Ive decided not to be actively working against Co$ trough Anonymous.
However, beating Anonymous trough the means that Scientology is will NEVER work. But as Anonymous is an ideal, and not an actually organised group will probably be hard.
Anonymous will work as an army, but won't win the battle by itself.
Which is good with people like you tory, you'r a critique with "a face". As in, you identible. Then Anonymous can stand for the uncountable numbers.
W4RW017 3 years ago
way to go, Tory. <3
anonmuc 3 years ago
GO TORY MAGOO
xenuismyfriend 3 years ago
You're TEH tree Tory! *bows* xD
LuvingToryChristman 3 years ago
good speech
mre4nygma 3 years ago
Great job Mark thanks! Can't wait to see the Q&A.
uneXskcuS 3 years ago
i was hoping to go to this, but i had no way of making it. nice job tory
thesteelshark 3 years ago
Very well done, great presentation.
SleepTwilight 3 years ago
Fantastic about your film crew :)
Does anyone know why all the comments just are pages of repeated 4 comments, unless you hit "View all 46 comments"? Then you see them all-for real. Just curious---seems odd. Is it just another YT glitch?
Thanks for your many kind comments ---I'm glad you've enjoyed it!
Tory/Magoo~~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago 2
This just inspired my film crew to join Chanology
:)
IhateH1pp13s 3 years ago
Well done Tory!!!
madmentalking 3 years ago
Wow, great speech.
jsyomama 3 years ago 2
This is GREAT!!! "Send him on over!" LOL! I'm so glad you're out, Tory. I'll add a link to this video to your web site ASAP.
AngryNotSoOldHippy 3 years ago 2
Congratulations, keep speaking out, keep free and keep safe!!
snot108 3 years ago 3
Did you guys get the sense that there was a Scientology stooge was in the audience? They would have to send someone that is in deep not to be moved by the talk...
baraqiyal 3 years ago 3
GREAT JOB!!! is there any place i can see the cnn interview she did
gounc93 3 years ago 3
"GREAT JOB!!! is there any place i can see the cnn interview she did?"
Check it out at xenutv (dot) com---it's there, as well as some other media interviews.
My best :)
Tory/Magoo~~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago 2
Thank YOU, Tori! We must keep fighting this mega-corporate-greed machine. I've lived in Pinellas County for over 20 years, & I can see what they are up to- daily.
Thanks to wisebeardman, also! :)
ShortbusMooner 3 years ago 3
Wow, Tory summed up some of the best, thought-provoking explanations as to what Scientology is in a half an hour. Although to really explain how abusive they are would take several hours, maybe even days.
Relyt22 3 years ago 3
Good vid, i hope u enjoyed the night
Best wishes tory and mark and ofcourse anon, i wish u all the best in ur journey against this.. so called "church"
VegetaFH1 3 years ago 3
Thankyou Tory....
gabiotta 3 years ago 6
Thanks WBM and Tory!
Tory, you're such a great speaker!
alspence 3 years ago 3
Wow, I love this lady. She left me smiling.
TexDad1971 3 years ago 3
It;s always good to hear from you Tory.
Chipshotz 3 years ago 5
This is a good speech. I watched it all. Great job Tory.
DKHellsing 3 years ago 6
what is reverse auditing
100flyingfish 3 years ago 3
Right on Tory!!!!!
Keekeeleekee 3 years ago 3
Tory-great informarive speech! Once again-you told it like it is and its not a pretty picture! Thanks also Mark!
MARYBLEUZ 3 years ago 4
wow u got this up quick!
AnonLover 3 years ago 2
Halfway through so far, this is Tory at her best, which is excellent.
A true asset to the cause.
TheSpiderMind 3 years ago 2
Great speech Tory & thanks for uploading this WMB.
deisel1967 3 years ago 2
thanks wbm. excellent presentation by tory.
thelastanon 3 years ago 3
★★★★★
stategos 3 years ago 4
Miss Tory always rocks.
DavidNelsonUtah 3 years ago 4
I love Tory, shes got a bit of stick recently but her honesty and her ability to explain what $cientology is unsurpassed by abyone else ive heard
NicNasty1981 3 years ago 4
I wanna bang that sexy old babe.
g0blin 3 years ago
Thank you, Tory.
Kucheat 3 years ago 3
Nice video, Tory ftw.
davedude2040 3 years ago 3
Thanks Mark for filming this, and thanks to all of you for your kind comments :) Lastly, thanks to C.F.I. They are a great group of people, and have been super kind to me.
My best :)
Tory/Magoo~~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago 3
simply
fantastic,fantastic,fantastic,fantastic,
fantastic,fantastic,fantastic,fantastic,
well done
ducksoup2006 3 years ago 3
Well done Tory.
quentinkrisp 3 years ago 4
A great, and informative video... ★★★★★
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 3 years ago 3
What an excellent presentation! So well-delivered. Very focused and informative. And you light-up the room with your personality alone even before you layout the message. Again, bravo!!
allmuppetcaligula 3 years ago 6
Pretty straightforward little talk, do we get to see the Q&A period as well Mark??
Anonanonanonymous 3 years ago 3
Yes the Q and A will follow when I get the time.
XENUTV 3 years ago
Very good speech. She was hitting on some good points that a lot of people don't know about like the fraud and deaths due to lack of care and suicides. Keep spreading the message Tory!
Noyjeetut 3 years ago 7
Sheeple are weak minded
Sheeple are looking for some messiah to tell them what to do; or some corporation & government
Sheeple are apparently unable to govern their own lives
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
"Sheeple are weak minded"
Academics who study CULTS say:
"ANYONE can get snagged up in a cult, if they're at the wrong place, at the wrong time: ANYONE".
Also, they have written and stated often "People who join cults are not only *not* dumb/sheep---they are quite smart people. That's why they joined: they were looking for something better".
Best :)
Tory/Magoo~~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago 6
so i guess you have to be rich to be a scientologist?
jdubdoubleu 3 years ago 7
Scientology will drain your pockets. No matter how much you have, they will take it.
PISTOLcm 3 years ago 8
Thanks for posting.
secondcitizen007 3 years ago 7
Prime!
Shapecharge08 3 years ago 6
5/5!
Brybryrox 3 years ago 9
woo hoo!
lobox785 3 years ago 6
Go Tory!
daphoebster 3 years ago 4