I guess I am one of the lucky ones, although at the time I didn't feel all that lucky. But yes, the alternatives seem way worse, and you do get used to the loss. Frankly I am more surprised by those in vehement disagreement; parents having to see their kids die is better????
Thanks. The argument is put forward based in the reality of the fact that we're all going to die. It's all well and good piously wishing it weren't so but that isn't going to change the facts. And within the context of reality, well, you obviously understood perfectly what I was saying here :-)
You'll never get over it, but you will get used to it, and one day soon you'll find you can feel happy again about something. And don't worry, that does not mean that you're "forgetting" her. You had 18 years with her, and nobody can take that away from you.
You make a very good point. From a very young age, I knew of my mortality. I know that myself, and everyone that I knew, know, and will know will die. People should be prepared for that eventuality. Most people are bothered when I say things like that.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying then. I'm not saying it's grand, fine and dandy if your parents die. It never is. But the alternative IS worse, and we WILL all die, no matter how much you kid yourself otherwise, and ignoring that fact of life is indeed nonsensical.
Well Pino I watched both my parents die after removing them from life support,that was their determination.Much harder was to lose a 25 year old daughter to senseless violence,a gunshot wound to the back of the head.
The reality in this country has become this: there is no such thing as a natural death anymore. Short of a traffic accident, people who get ill end up in hospitals hooked up to technology, dying painfully inch by inch. The result is that anything they have saved for their children is eaten up by doctors and hospitals. The death itself is without dignity. In other countries, I am not sure what happens when someone is incurable. ??
Even if a person has a will that clearly states they do not want to be kept alive artificially, this is often ignored, and treatment ensues anyway. It is illegal for a doctor to help with overmedication, so the end of life can be lengthy and terrifying in this country.Bottom line is: I do not "own" my own body.Laws prevent me from making decisions when I am past hope with illness.
I would like to think that I will know when it is time to make an exit. I would like to die the way I have lived, with courage to face truth, whatever it may be.When I become sick, I would want to decide when to go: to gather my family and tell them I love them, to go with grace, dignity, and a clear eye.. To leave whatever possessions I have to them. Is it wrong for me to want to be captain of my own ship? I want to live with a passion, and die with my mind intact.
Unfortunately the alternative you mentioned regarding alienation hits home for me. I haven't spoken with my mother in years, and can't bring myself to bother any more. There is chasm of differences between us that is so great neither of us can bridge it. I can't say I'm pleased about it, but it's an open wound I've learned to live with. When she dies I'm sure I will regret it, but sometimes even foreknowledge doesn't provide an escape.
My parents (and in laws) have all died. But my dad was in and out of hospitals, near death on many occasions. Each time he recovered. Then my mom became ill and was dying. She kept saying, this isn't the way it's supposed to be. Your father isn't supposed to be taking care of me. I was set on it being the other way around. I'm not so sure thinking it through or imagining how it will be ahead of time is the best idea.
A loved one is a loved one and death and loss will always be painful. I don't think this pain is something that we can prepare for. It's a process to go through...and hopefully come out of...with most of yourself intact.
I haven't had kids, but I bet it's a whole lot easier to prepare for losing your parents than for losing your kids. And less painful, even though losing your parents is painful as hell.
I've experienced both. I was pregnant with a son who had anencephaly. The doctor told me he would only live a few minutes or hours at most. My mother (after talking to a priest) told me not to abort as my doctor recommended. I lived through a physically and emotionally agonizing experience every day of the pregnancy as people who saw me happily asked me about when my baby was due etc.
Pain is pain. There is no easier or harder when you lose someone you love. Of course I was angry with my mother, but at the same time, I was desperately glad she was there.
That's nonsense. My grandparents' death did cause me some pain. But I knew they had a good innings. I'm certain that I would have been a lot more upset if my parents had died 10 years ago than I would have been if they were to die today. And if anything would happen to my daughter I don't know whether I could go on. I would of course, but I can't, right now, imagine how.
It's easy just to say, "You haven't been there, so you don't know," but plenty of people who have been there do know, and disagree with you. Also, Pino hasn't lost a child, but he knows that the pain would probably be unlike anything he's ever experienced before. I know that about myself too, and I haven't even had any kids.
Yeah, pretty much. I noticed my coping with these things brought about a certain sort of detachment. I figure it like if that's what I need to perceive reality properly, I'm ok with it.
Interesting thoughts with which I totally agree. At 51, I consider myself fortunate to have both my parents and my grown children unencumbered by any near-term threat of loss. As an aside though, one of my hobbies(genealogy) came about partly because both maternal grandparents passed before I could know them. Thus my mother fits your scenario AND the loss was, in effect, propagated to me (& siblings).
It's obvious why this whole experience has in the past lead to the development of the human formulation of "eternal life." What better opiate for the broken heart than to believe that death is not the end and only time separates you from the departed ones. Add to that the envisioned rewards and punishments and you have some of the religions existent today.
My great grandmother lost all the vigor and joy she had for life after ond of her children died. Since she was old the saddness seemed to bring on an illness in short order. As she said "No parent should have to bury their child."
Life is fabulous!! It is death no one trusts. Whether the end is met through accident or disease, it is something most people don't plan and are able to somehow stay in denial it will ever happen to them or loved ones. To me, it is a comfort that I won't be facing some vengeful god critiquing my entire life with a merciless eye. To be completely in the moment and fully alive every day, to not waste a moment on fables, this is my goal.
Spot on. A few years ago my family experienced the death of a young child due to murder. I have a lot of respect for the parents. The emotional courage that it takes to endure life after such a thing is incredible.
very thoughtful, death is some kind of a taboo, it feels somehow liberating/refreshing when someone approaches the topic in such a logical/analytical way.
I've lost both parents also. But being the youngest of 8, this means it didn't fall upon me, particularly, to 'bury' them. If I and my siblings were to die in our birth order, I have at least 7 more deaths to deal with. That is depressing.
I have often thought that I might, in the distant future, arrange my own departure in such a way as to avoid all inconvenience to relatives.
Yes, a noble thought, but practically only attainable by removing relatives from the equation and leading a lonely life. As Alfred Lord Tennyson said: better to have loved and lost. But you might disagree with that.
I agree with Tennyson, but it's true that I've remained unmarried and without children into my 40's. While we do care about each other, my family is nevertheless dispersed across thousands of miles.
Part of me is still waiting, even hoping, for some world-wide catastrophe that will make the niceties of funerals superfluous. A global economic collapse or something. Peak oil.
I have experienced the deaths of both of my parents. Now I am the elder in the family. I dread seeing a younger sibling die before I do. I hope that our deaths will be in order as we came. That seems right. I am the eldest of four. I bore my parents' deaths, as one would expect. But I don't think I could stand to see my sister or brothers precede me in death.
Very true, Larry. I've just noticed your video about whether atheists should fear death - somehow managed to miss that. I've compiled a playlist with my thoughts on that. I'll add it as a comment to your vid.
My friends think of wierd hypothetical questions where, the result is, Either I die, or my one of or both my parents die..
And I always thought I would pick my own life. Not because Iam selfish, but because My dad had said that he thought it was the natural way of life to die before your kids...
Also I've been asked, would you rather your mom or dad die? And I said dad, because it seems natural to me that the men of the family is suppouse to protect the women..
Thank you rozeboosje for posting this. This video means a lot to me, I think I will make a video response to this sometime in the future as my first video.
I was with my mother at the exact moment of her death. I felt her pulse slow down and stop. This is a gift beyond measure, and not just because it is what she had hoped for. As you say, death is the one certainty in this life. We SHOULD talk about it. While my mother was ill, we talked about it a lot. It does help.
I lost my father when I was pregnant with my first child. It was not an easy time, especially since it was sudden and I had no chance to say goodbye.
A close friend died in the Marchioness disaster on the Thames, a beautiful young woman, a known model, in her mid twenties. I have never seen grief like that of her parents, they were never the same again. I know exactly what you mean
do you think the death of loved ones is easier and less of a shock to the system if you come to terms with the possibility of their death and life without them years before it happens?ye think it softens the blow at all? morbid as it sounds...
It doesn't exactly soften the blow. It is still a powerful blow to lose someone you love. But it takes away the shock of it, and it helps us to accept it. I've been there. :) People need to talk about and think about death...not obsess about it, but it is a part of this life, just like sleeping and eating.
Thx for that folks.I guess the only good thing that comes out of pondering sad things like this is the fact that you might appricate the few moment you've got with them even more knowing it won't last forever.
Agreed!! As someone who has been on the brink of losing their life (I had cancer), my primary concern was not that I would die or lose my own life; it was that my parents (and sister) would not be able to take it. I still feel this way. It is my desire to live long enough for my parents to die first, so that they would not have to incur the sadness and depression my death would cause. Otherwise I am fine with it.
I lost my parents when I was 21 and 28, and both of their deaths were the hardest thing in the world to deal with. It didn't help that I was an only child, either.
Yes, I understand that. It certainly will never be easy. After all you love them just as they love you. It's not that it's ok to lose them, it's that the alternatives are even worse.
I have the same attitude about those here on YT who think I'm too old to be here-or too old to 'think' (when did THAT ever start?)or that I should die or just go away--I prefer being older to the alternative. Those who mock me may not make this far; do they wish themselves dea by my age? It all makes me laugh. I'm here.
Thanks, I don't think that-they do. They are clueless. People sit here instead of builiding a life. My life is built and I'm just slacking now. Never slack before the building. Slack is whack. Back to my champagne...
I know it's a wonderful journey-full of surprises and 'ah that's what my grandparents meant' and wait just a few year until about 40 when you become T I R E D. That was a shock. I'm thinking there comes a point where that goes away again. It has to. No wonder people want to die in the end. They just want a good night's sleep.
It is a very good way of describing death to children though. Compare it with how when they get up early in the morning and they're full of energy, and the idea of having to go to sleep is just unimaginable. But at the end of a long day of play, going to sleep will seem like a great idea and just what one will want.
Losing your child is far worse than losing a parent. I guess the family could die together in a natural disaster alleviating both those scenarios, but that wouldn't be helpful to the bloodline (if you care about that).
I dont have to think about it: my mother died of cancer, after nursing her for 6 weeks, and two days before she died, my stephfather died.
And the other thing: I have burried my child too.
So there is no escaping reallity here.
Life sucks. ^..^)
panthera50 2 years ago
It certainly can some times :-(
rozeboosje 2 years ago
This video broke me to pieces.....
sentrylevel 2 years ago
I'm sorry. It wasn't easy to make either.
rozeboosje 2 years ago
I guess I am one of the lucky ones, although at the time I didn't feel all that lucky. But yes, the alternatives seem way worse, and you do get used to the loss. Frankly I am more surprised by those in vehement disagreement; parents having to see their kids die is better????
youvexme 2 years ago
Thanks. The argument is put forward based in the reality of the fact that we're all going to die. It's all well and good piously wishing it weren't so but that isn't going to change the facts. And within the context of reality, well, you obviously understood perfectly what I was saying here :-)
rozeboosje 2 years ago
You'll never get over it, but you will get used to it, and one day soon you'll find you can feel happy again about something. And don't worry, that does not mean that you're "forgetting" her. You had 18 years with her, and nobody can take that away from you.
rozeboosje 3 years ago
You make a very good point. From a very young age, I knew of my mortality. I know that myself, and everyone that I knew, know, and will know will die. People should be prepared for that eventuality. Most people are bothered when I say things like that.
darkmattertrue 4 years ago
Thanks. It's a tough pill to swallow all the same.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Sorry Pino have to disagree with this nonsense
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johnpruddy 4 years ago
I think you misunderstood what I was saying then. I'm not saying it's grand, fine and dandy if your parents die. It never is. But the alternative IS worse, and we WILL all die, no matter how much you kid yourself otherwise, and ignoring that fact of life is indeed nonsensical.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Well Pino I watched both my parents die after removing them from life support,that was their determination.Much harder was to lose a 25 year old daughter to senseless violence,a gunshot wound to the back of the head.
michaelispan 4 years ago
Wow. That must have been extremely tough. Sorry to hear it.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
My ceremony will include explosives. My body will be cremated instantaneously.
(Alternative, all of you die at once?)
Nice video.
CommandoDude 4 years ago
Good idea! Out with a bang! :-)
rozeboosje 4 years ago
The reality in this country has become this: there is no such thing as a natural death anymore. Short of a traffic accident, people who get ill end up in hospitals hooked up to technology, dying painfully inch by inch. The result is that anything they have saved for their children is eaten up by doctors and hospitals. The death itself is without dignity. In other countries, I am not sure what happens when someone is incurable. ??
8journey8 4 years ago
Even if a person has a will that clearly states they do not want to be kept alive artificially, this is often ignored, and treatment ensues anyway. It is illegal for a doctor to help with overmedication, so the end of life can be lengthy and terrifying in this country.Bottom line is: I do not "own" my own body.Laws prevent me from making decisions when I am past hope with illness.
8journey8 4 years ago
I would like to think that I will know when it is time to make an exit. I would like to die the way I have lived, with courage to face truth, whatever it may be.When I become sick, I would want to decide when to go: to gather my family and tell them I love them, to go with grace, dignity, and a clear eye.. To leave whatever possessions I have to them. Is it wrong for me to want to be captain of my own ship? I want to live with a passion, and die with my mind intact.
8journey8 4 years ago
I agree. Especially if you can come to an agreement with your loved ones, it should be nobody else's business.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Unfortunately the alternative you mentioned regarding alienation hits home for me. I haven't spoken with my mother in years, and can't bring myself to bother any more. There is chasm of differences between us that is so great neither of us can bridge it. I can't say I'm pleased about it, but it's an open wound I've learned to live with. When she dies I'm sure I will regret it, but sometimes even foreknowledge doesn't provide an escape.
FireFoxRocks 4 years ago
That's sad. Sorry
rozeboosje 4 years ago
truth
rowsdowersavesus 4 years ago
Cheers
rozeboosje 4 years ago
yes we CAN do something about preventing people close to us from dying, that is to STOP HAVING CHILDREN IN THE FIRST PLACE!
it is so easy
oh parents parents... so selfish and evil
Duck1987 4 years ago
Rozeboosje, why did you create a mortal human being?
Your little girl will eventually die, why did you condemn it to that sort of fate?
Duck1987 4 years ago
Why not? I love life, and I'm pretty sure she does too. You might also look at my playlist in the video description and my early videos on the topic.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
My parents (and in laws) have all died. But my dad was in and out of hospitals, near death on many occasions. Each time he recovered. Then my mom became ill and was dying. She kept saying, this isn't the way it's supposed to be. Your father isn't supposed to be taking care of me. I was set on it being the other way around. I'm not so sure thinking it through or imagining how it will be ahead of time is the best idea.
EMTRUE 4 years ago
A loved one is a loved one and death and loss will always be painful. I don't think this pain is something that we can prepare for. It's a process to go through...and hopefully come out of...with most of yourself intact.
EMTRUE 4 years ago
I haven't had kids, but I bet it's a whole lot easier to prepare for losing your parents than for losing your kids. And less painful, even though losing your parents is painful as hell.
firegod001 4 years ago
Exactly
rozeboosje 4 years ago
There's truth in that, but it's something we have to do, as it will inevitably happen
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Maybe until you've actually lost your parents, you don't actually understand what your video title does to a person who has.
EMTRUE 4 years ago
I've experienced both. I was pregnant with a son who had anencephaly. The doctor told me he would only live a few minutes or hours at most. My mother (after talking to a priest) told me not to abort as my doctor recommended. I lived through a physically and emotionally agonizing experience every day of the pregnancy as people who saw me happily asked me about when my baby was due etc.
EMTRUE 4 years ago
Pain is pain. There is no easier or harder when you lose someone you love. Of course I was angry with my mother, but at the same time, I was desperately glad she was there.
EMTRUE 4 years ago
That's nonsense. My grandparents' death did cause me some pain. But I knew they had a good innings. I'm certain that I would have been a lot more upset if my parents had died 10 years ago than I would have been if they were to die today. And if anything would happen to my daughter I don't know whether I could go on. I would of course, but I can't, right now, imagine how.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Nonsense?
Unsubscribed.
EMTRUE 4 years ago
Over one disagreement? Ok.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
It's easy just to say, "You haven't been there, so you don't know," but plenty of people who have been there do know, and disagree with you. Also, Pino hasn't lost a child, but he knows that the pain would probably be unlike anything he's ever experienced before. I know that about myself too, and I haven't even had any kids.
firegod001 4 years ago
Yeah, pretty much. I noticed my coping with these things brought about a certain sort of detachment. I figure it like if that's what I need to perceive reality properly, I'm ok with it.
sarcasmosis 4 years ago
Cheers
rozeboosje 4 years ago
*All my grandparents are dead now*
Yes my OTHER grandparents did not have long lives in the scale of things, either. GF@59 GM@69
Cheers Pino!
PositiveLogic 4 years ago
Oops GF@56 GM@59
SHORT lives :(
PositiveLogic 4 years ago
Interesting thoughts with which I totally agree. At 51, I consider myself fortunate to have both my parents and my grown children unencumbered by any near-term threat of loss. As an aside though, one of my hobbies(genealogy) came about partly because both maternal grandparents passed before I could know them. Thus my mother fits your scenario AND the loss was, in effect, propagated to me (& siblings).
PositiveLogic 4 years ago
Indeed. Thankfully my parents are both still alive, but my dad had a stroke last year, from which he recovered. All my grandparents are dead now.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
It's obvious why this whole experience has in the past lead to the development of the human formulation of "eternal life." What better opiate for the broken heart than to believe that death is not the end and only time separates you from the departed ones. Add to that the envisioned rewards and punishments and you have some of the religions existent today.
DieselBodine 4 years ago 2
Indeed. And the sad thing is that that detracts from enjoying the memories of the very real time one DID have with them.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Very true that.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
My great grandmother lost all the vigor and joy she had for life after ond of her children died. Since she was old the saddness seemed to bring on an illness in short order. As she said "No parent should have to bury their child."
nadiaTeeze 4 years ago
My point exactly. Poor woman. :-(
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Thanks Don.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
i will nvr die
TRANSHUMANISM FTW!!!!!!
alwaysblazen 4 years ago
Hm...
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Thank you, JD. Indeed.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
What, the whole planet in one fell swoop?
rozeboosje 4 years ago
That is so morbid...but so true. :(
TheKidFrom13thStreet 4 years ago
Yup. But life's like that. Good and bad. You can't have one without the other.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
damn it, there you go making me 5star you again .....
JDRyder15 4 years ago
:-) Thank you
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Life is fabulous!! It is death no one trusts. Whether the end is met through accident or disease, it is something most people don't plan and are able to somehow stay in denial it will ever happen to them or loved ones. To me, it is a comfort that I won't be facing some vengeful god critiquing my entire life with a merciless eye. To be completely in the moment and fully alive every day, to not waste a moment on fables, this is my goal.
8journey8 4 years ago
And a good one it is.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Spot on. A few years ago my family experienced the death of a young child due to murder. I have a lot of respect for the parents. The emotional courage that it takes to endure life after such a thing is incredible.
Barklord 4 years ago
Quite, Jim.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
very thoughtful, death is some kind of a taboo, it feels somehow liberating/refreshing when someone approaches the topic in such a logical/analytical way.
kurtilein3 4 years ago
Thank you kurtilein3
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Don't worry too much about life. You'll never get out alive anyway.
CognitiveDisonance 4 years ago
LOL. Very well said.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I've lost both parents also. But being the youngest of 8, this means it didn't fall upon me, particularly, to 'bury' them. If I and my siblings were to die in our birth order, I have at least 7 more deaths to deal with. That is depressing.
I have often thought that I might, in the distant future, arrange my own departure in such a way as to avoid all inconvenience to relatives.
papackar 4 years ago
Yes, a noble thought, but practically only attainable by removing relatives from the equation and leading a lonely life. As Alfred Lord Tennyson said: better to have loved and lost. But you might disagree with that.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I agree with Tennyson, but it's true that I've remained unmarried and without children into my 40's. While we do care about each other, my family is nevertheless dispersed across thousands of miles.
Part of me is still waiting, even hoping, for some world-wide catastrophe that will make the niceties of funerals superfluous. A global economic collapse or something. Peak oil.
papackar 4 years ago
Good lighting.
papackar 4 years ago
Thanks :-)
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I have experienced the deaths of both of my parents. Now I am the elder in the family. I dread seeing a younger sibling die before I do. I hope that our deaths will be in order as we came. That seems right. I am the eldest of four. I bore my parents' deaths, as one would expect. But I don't think I could stand to see my sister or brothers precede me in death.
Largo64 4 years ago
Very true, Larry. I've just noticed your video about whether atheists should fear death - somehow managed to miss that. I've compiled a playlist with my thoughts on that. I'll add it as a comment to your vid.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
This made me call my mom and dad.
LMartella 4 years ago
Yes, that is always a good idea :-)
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Yessir. Eventhough I know they were going to call me later tonight. Haha.
LMartella 4 years ago
My friends think of wierd hypothetical questions where, the result is, Either I die, or my one of or both my parents die..
And I always thought I would pick my own life. Not because Iam selfish, but because My dad had said that he thought it was the natural way of life to die before your kids...
Also I've been asked, would you rather your mom or dad die? And I said dad, because it seems natural to me that the men of the family is suppouse to protect the women..
thefakeyeti 4 years ago
I think my mom would be better able to cope on her own than my dad
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Thank you rozeboosje for posting this. This video means a lot to me, I think I will make a video response to this sometime in the future as my first video.
MADAMSsays 4 years ago
You're welcome. Looking forward to that, thank you!
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I was with my mother at the exact moment of her death. I felt her pulse slow down and stop. This is a gift beyond measure, and not just because it is what she had hoped for. As you say, death is the one certainty in this life. We SHOULD talk about it. While my mother was ill, we talked about it a lot. It does help.
Illuminatta 4 years ago
Yes indeed. And your memories of her are something that nobody can take away from you.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I lost my father when I was pregnant with my first child. It was not an easy time, especially since it was sudden and I had no chance to say goodbye.
A close friend died in the Marchioness disaster on the Thames, a beautiful young woman, a known model, in her mid twenties. I have never seen grief like that of her parents, they were never the same again. I know exactly what you mean
Loreleila 4 years ago
Thanks. Yes, getting that chance is something I hope I'll get. My dad had a stroke last year. Thankfully he recovered. This time.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
do you think the death of loved ones is easier and less of a shock to the system if you come to terms with the possibility of their death and life without them years before it happens?ye think it softens the blow at all? morbid as it sounds...
thedynamitekidd 4 years ago
It doesn't exactly soften the blow. It is still a powerful blow to lose someone you love. But it takes away the shock of it, and it helps us to accept it. I've been there. :) People need to talk about and think about death...not obsess about it, but it is a part of this life, just like sleeping and eating.
Illuminatta 4 years ago
I think Illuminatta puts it as well as I possibly could hope to.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Thx for that folks.I guess the only good thing that comes out of pondering sad things like this is the fact that you might appricate the few moment you've got with them even more knowing it won't last forever.
thedynamitekidd 4 years ago
That's what makes it so precious in my opinion. Things that last forever become meaningless.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Cheers. And very true, that last point you made
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Agreed!! As someone who has been on the brink of losing their life (I had cancer), my primary concern was not that I would die or lose my own life; it was that my parents (and sister) would not be able to take it. I still feel this way. It is my desire to live long enough for my parents to die first, so that they would not have to incur the sadness and depression my death would cause. Otherwise I am fine with it.
trick0171 4 years ago
Exactly. Thanks
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Thank you, Pino! High praise coming from such an articulate fellow as you! :)
Illuminatta 4 years ago
I lost my parents when I was 21 and 28, and both of their deaths were the hardest thing in the world to deal with. It didn't help that I was an only child, either.
HitchensFanatic 4 years ago
so sorry to hear that-
nicanicabad 4 years ago
Yes indeed. It would be best to lose them when they're ancient and you're old. But we have little say on the matter :-(
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Yes, I understand that. It certainly will never be easy. After all you love them just as they love you. It's not that it's ok to lose them, it's that the alternatives are even worse.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I have the same attitude about those here on YT who think I'm too old to be here-or too old to 'think' (when did THAT ever start?)or that I should die or just go away--I prefer being older to the alternative. Those who mock me may not make this far; do they wish themselves dea by my age? It all makes me laugh. I'm here.
nicanicabad 4 years ago
nica You are NOT too old for anything, I doubt many a kid around here could keep up with you in body or mind! <333
thequestionmarkofGod 4 years ago
Thanks, I don't think that-they do. They are clueless. People sit here instead of builiding a life. My life is built and I'm just slacking now. Never slack before the building. Slack is whack. Back to my champagne...
nicanicabad 4 years ago
Exactly. I always say the only thing worse than getting old is not getting old.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
I know it's a wonderful journey-full of surprises and 'ah that's what my grandparents meant' and wait just a few year until about 40 when you become T I R E D. That was a shock. I'm thinking there comes a point where that goes away again. It has to. No wonder people want to die in the end. They just want a good night's sleep.
nicanicabad 4 years ago
"wait just a few years until about 40"? Been there, done that :P
I know what you mean by "TIRED". LOL.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Wait-I thought you were 37-and a very young looking one at that-sorry-I forget your age OBVIOUSLY!
nicanicabad 4 years ago
LOL@ they just want a good nights sleep!
thequestionmarkofGod 4 years ago
It is a very good way of describing death to children though. Compare it with how when they get up early in the morning and they're full of energy, and the idea of having to go to sleep is just unimaginable. But at the end of a long day of play, going to sleep will seem like a great idea and just what one will want.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
wow-that's poignant.
nicanicabad 4 years ago
hahahaaha
nicanicabad 4 years ago
I'm 34, so I must be too old to be here, too! LOL - Boo on them for saying that! :)
HitchensFanatic 4 years ago
I'm 48-and yup they'd consider you old, too, at 34 -which to them means studpid -and that's where the humor comes in --for US!
nicanicabad 4 years ago
Losing your child is far worse than losing a parent. I guess the family could die together in a natural disaster alleviating both those scenarios, but that wouldn't be helpful to the bloodline (if you care about that).
SubsriberHore1234 4 years ago
Indeed. And of course the parents would be somebody's children too. And so on and so forth.
rozeboosje 4 years ago