Today is the third time I've tried this dish soap. And for the third time it flopped. I cooked until it tested clear, just like you showed on your video. I tested the paste at one ounce to two ounces of water and COMPLETELY dissolved the paste. I didn't feel like taking any chances. It came up clear as a bell and so I neutralized it and still, it clouds the dish water and no bubbles. Would altitude have anything to do with this recipe? What is your altitude?
@Grimmnir65 Bummer! It's really odd that it is not bubbling. The cloudiness is odd, too. For the cloudiness, that would normally indicate that the oils did not fully saponify but you tested it, so it is strange. You can substitute out some of your water for alcohol to enhance the clarity but the fact that it doesn't bubble worries me. Have you done a PH test at all? Mine is about the bubbliest stuff I have around here. My kids use it for bubble bath.
It doesn't bubble, it leaves a film on plastics, and clouds the water. The ph is between 7 and 8 and it still has a "bite" to it. I noticed this as I was bottling it. How can KOH still be active with a ph of 7 or 8? Strange. As I said before, I tested the paste and it came up clear, slightly honey colored, but clear as a could be. Easy to read a paper. I think it's time to just develop my own recipe. I'm at around 5000 elevation but can't imagine it makes a diff
I made this as my first liquid soap attempt. It is great stuff!!! Thank you for sharing this recipe. It is wonderful not to have dry, cracking hands anymore thanks to this soap.
Pretty Cool. You actually made a lot of it. Nothing like my video of my giant bar of soap. lol But will have to give your recipe a try. Thanks and Take Care.:)
Thank you Bonnie I appreciate your insight :>) Could I have cooked it too hot I cooked it in my slow cooker on high the whole time and when I put the hot water and citric acid mix in with the soap paste It bubbled up like crazy I thought it was going to over flow. I still had the slow cooker on high when I did that. I noticed in your video yours just bubble up and go crazy when you put the water/citric solution in. I think I might have cooked it too hot too long. Is that possible?
Ok made this soap last night and I did post about it already. Funny thing is when I put it on the sponge it will lather and clean the dishes. But when I put it in the sink with running water it does not lather at all and just turns the water a cloudy white color. Bonnie can you tell me where I went wrong? I'm still going to use it because it works amazing on a sponge and lathers like crazy that way but won't later in a sink of running water? I'm stumped.
@soapmaking2011 It sounds like, since it was not clear, you might need more cooking time before diluting. It will still clean just fine like it is but next time try cooking it longer. Yes, this does make a very thick and concentrated soap. In colder weather it may solidify some or run thicker. You can dilute it more if you want to.
Wow I just made this liquid dish soap and it's not clear it's so thick like honey even kind of the color of honey, or as someone else mentioned like butterscotch syrup. It's really really concentrated. A little drop will do ya! Amazing dish soap. This was my first attempt and I'm not sure it's suppose to be this thick but honestly I like it because it will last me a very long time. Question? Can I dilute it if needed and how do I dilute it? Thanks for sharing amazing video Bonnie!!!!
If I took a bar of ivory soap and grated it up for the half ounce of 'soap base', would that work as well? What about some other bar? I am just hoping I can find something locally. I assume that a 'vegetable glycerine' soap bar would not work, right?
@snowballzt The grated soap is optional. You do not need it at all. I do not know if Ivory would work. I do not know it's chemical composition. You need to use a superfatted soap. This recipe is meant for advanced soap makers. I recommend making cold process bar soap before attempting making a potassium soap. And, if you make some bar soap you'll have some to shred down to make this with. No Vegetable Glycerine is a different kind of soap. It must be one made with oils.
hi thanks for the help and the vids,, i made my first batch the other day and seemed to have turned out pretty good,,,so i am trying to make shampoo now,,does it make a diff if i use borax or citric acid to neutrilize the lye for dish soap and shampoo..was just waunder is the borax would make a harsh shampoo thanks again
@wolf360090 In one of the liquid shampoos I use boric acid and in another I used borax. The recipes were very different but both turned out well. Shampoos are tricky because hair and scalp is finicky and different types need a different kind. You'll have to experiment to see what works best for your type.
Sorry for all the questions, you have been very helpful. What is best way to figure out the amount of water needed for diluting soap paste? Also what lye calc would you recommend? I have gotten large differences when trying to figure lye and water amounts for a 100% coconut oil soap. One said 19 oz of water and the other ( soapcalc) said 9 oz.
@valbakke KOH soaps are just different when it comes to diluting and there is no calculator that I know of that will calculate this right. It's trial and error, depending on the ingredients you use. It can be anywhere from 1/2 soap to 1/5th soap. It just depends. Wish I could help more, it's just complex and every recipe needs to be tested. That is just diluting water. Stay on the lower end for lye-mixing water. You'll have to cook it longer if you add more.
I think I screwed up. My soap was nice and bubbly when I tested to see if it was translucent, but it was cloudy. Cloudy after hours and hours of cooking so I went ahead finally and added the water and citric acid. Yeah shoulda cooked s'more cuz no more bubbles just cloudy water in my sink. Starts of with a few bubbles but gone within seconds. Lesson learned.....always follow instructions to the letter first time around.
@MyWoodenBucket Hm, sounds like it did not fully saponify. You are using KOH and not NaOH, right? Several hours should have been long enough but cloudiness is the way you tell if it's fully saponifed or not. You could put it back in a cook it some more but with adding the water it might take forever to cook it out.
@EdentiaFarms Yes I used KOH. I'm thinking now maybe I just didn't measure right because that was almost all day making the soap cooking on high. Then after adding water and citric acid and it didn't bubble anymore I let it cook all night. Pretty much all the water cooked out of it and the constancy is like butterscotch syrup. I'm not really that disappointed, it was fun and a first. I will try again. Thanks Bonnie.
I made this recipe, what is a good ph for it to be at. I just got my ph test strips today! I tested the soap and it looks to be a ph of 7. Is that good? Thanks
i made this recipe last night and after diluting it, it is still very thick and " trace" like. Is this normal? I had my crock pot set to low, should it have been high? Maybe I went wrong somewhere? Can I still use it? How do you figure how much citric acid to use for the soap paste? Thanks so much!
@valbakke If it is too thick you can add more water until it is at the desired consistency. You could double or triple the water in this recipe with good results. Mine is thick also. I like mine just thin enough to be able to pump it in the bottle but you might like yours thinner. I figured my citric acid by trial and error with PH testing strips. You should not need to add any more citric acid than the recipe calls for.
@valbakke I do set mine to high but more important than temperature is whether or not the soap went from creamy to translucent. When it is translucent that is when you know all the fatty acids have been neutralized by the lye and your soap is fully saponified. Does/did your soap look see-through or cloudy (before adding FO or EO)? If cloudy, it needs more cooking. If see-through (or just a tiny bit cloudy) then its finished.
i made this recipe last night and after diluting it, it is still very thick and " trace" like. Is this normal? Maybe I went wrong somewhere? Can I still use it?
Hey Bonnie. Thanks for this recipe and tutorial. I'm trying it right now and am at the thirty minute stage. I'm very excited. This may be a silly question but because citrus helps cut grease, if I don't add it will the soap still have the same grease cutting power?
@MyWoodenBucket It should clean up your greasy things just fine without the citrus. It's because of the structure of the molecule. One side attaches to water and the other attaches to the grease and it washes away. This dish soap works better for me than any store brand I have tried.
@valbakke I get my organic soybean oil from Soaper's Choice. You can check them out. If you swap out another oil, it must be a liquid oil with the same SAP value (unless you want to recalculate the lye). You could get away with swapping Peach Kernel, Peanut or Safflower (not high oleic) in this recipe. Diluting may require more or less water.
Love Love Love this video too! :) I have been wanting to make my own dish soap for sometime now..thank you Bonnie. :) You are making me a better soaper! xoxo
i love the soaps you make! you should look up scents/flavors like from hawaii. i went to kauai and found a scent&soap shop and they had scents like pinapple and coconut and other mixtures. youve probably used those but just giving ideas! :D
@mbjlhj No I never tried that. I was thinking about getting the ice cream making attachment for the Kitchen-Aid so maybe I will have a go. I was thinking of making goat milk ice cream or frozen yogurt.
Great demo. I'd like to try this recipe to cut back on CO. I'm assuming I could also use borax to nuetralize. No citric acid. Oh, thanx for the tip on adding the shredded soap, I like the shortcut, but I'd hate to waste glycerine on dish soap ;)
You can use borax, sure but it will thicken the soap so that it will require further diluting making a less concentrated soap. Half an ounce of cold process soap shavings is totally worth it to cut out 30 mins or so of stirring and it will also save the life of your mixer. I use the dish soap for cleaning a lot more than dishes! It's my all-purpose kitchen and bathroom cleaner. Does't really do glass but cleans everything else nicely.
@EdentiaFarms !!No Way!! I have paste in under an hour. I honestly don't belive it. I'm waiting for it to separate, but it's not. I had trace in 10 stinking minutes! Unbelievable! Will see if this is a flop in the morning. Never using straight water again. ;)
@elohelreh When I run out I just grab a bar of soap and just rub it on the sponge. I used to make and sell dish soap bars that worked great but there is not really a market for them :)
I've never tried to make liquid soap with koh. I've made laundry soap using my soap borax and baking soda. But I've been wanting to make liquid castille soap. So is this essentially the paste that you can buy to make liquid soap? You teach me all kinds of stuff. Ps the sandalwood vanilla soap smells amazing. You gotta make some. It of course turns brown but the smell is crazy good. I made hp though. Didn't want to ruin my sandalwood oil in cp.it never smells as strong in cp
Kind of the same as the paste you can buy. A Castile Paste should be made with 100% Olive Oil. But yes, you can make your own paste. I have a few jars of paste around for when I need liquid soap immediately.
Bonnie I have to say that was fascinating for me to watch, Hope the ducks are safe and sound! You're so good to keep going back to film so you can show us the various stages, I really appreciate the effort to share this. At the risk of embarrassing you, I have to say I think you are awesome and I don't use that word, but, it just fits. x
Today is the third time I've tried this dish soap. And for the third time it flopped. I cooked until it tested clear, just like you showed on your video. I tested the paste at one ounce to two ounces of water and COMPLETELY dissolved the paste. I didn't feel like taking any chances. It came up clear as a bell and so I neutralized it and still, it clouds the dish water and no bubbles. Would altitude have anything to do with this recipe? What is your altitude?
Grimmnir65 2 days ago
@Grimmnir65 Bummer! It's really odd that it is not bubbling. The cloudiness is odd, too. For the cloudiness, that would normally indicate that the oils did not fully saponify but you tested it, so it is strange. You can substitute out some of your water for alcohol to enhance the clarity but the fact that it doesn't bubble worries me. Have you done a PH test at all? Mine is about the bubbliest stuff I have around here. My kids use it for bubble bath.
EdentiaFarms 2 days ago
@EdentiaFarms
It doesn't bubble, it leaves a film on plastics, and clouds the water. The ph is between 7 and 8 and it still has a "bite" to it. I noticed this as I was bottling it. How can KOH still be active with a ph of 7 or 8? Strange. As I said before, I tested the paste and it came up clear, slightly honey colored, but clear as a could be. Easy to read a paper. I think it's time to just develop my own recipe. I'm at around 5000 elevation but can't imagine it makes a diff
Grimmnir65 2 days ago
@Grimmnir65 Oh, my altitude is about 500ft. But I am not sure if that would affect anything.
EdentiaFarms 2 days ago
I made this as my first liquid soap attempt. It is great stuff!!! Thank you for sharing this recipe. It is wonderful not to have dry, cracking hands anymore thanks to this soap.
Yitzshawck 3 days ago
Pretty Cool. You actually made a lot of it. Nothing like my video of my giant bar of soap. lol But will have to give your recipe a try. Thanks and Take Care.:)
FiletofComedy 1 week ago
Thank you Bonnie I appreciate your insight :>) Could I have cooked it too hot I cooked it in my slow cooker on high the whole time and when I put the hot water and citric acid mix in with the soap paste It bubbled up like crazy I thought it was going to over flow. I still had the slow cooker on high when I did that. I noticed in your video yours just bubble up and go crazy when you put the water/citric solution in. I think I might have cooked it too hot too long. Is that possible?
soapmaking2011 1 week ago
Ok made this soap last night and I did post about it already. Funny thing is when I put it on the sponge it will lather and clean the dishes. But when I put it in the sink with running water it does not lather at all and just turns the water a cloudy white color. Bonnie can you tell me where I went wrong? I'm still going to use it because it works amazing on a sponge and lathers like crazy that way but won't later in a sink of running water? I'm stumped.
soapmaking2011 1 week ago
@soapmaking2011 It sounds like, since it was not clear, you might need more cooking time before diluting. It will still clean just fine like it is but next time try cooking it longer. Yes, this does make a very thick and concentrated soap. In colder weather it may solidify some or run thicker. You can dilute it more if you want to.
EdentiaFarms 1 week ago
@soapmaking2011 But for the lathering, I'm not sure. Mine lathers so much we sometimes use it for bubble bath for the kids. :)
EdentiaFarms 1 week ago
Wow I just made this liquid dish soap and it's not clear it's so thick like honey even kind of the color of honey, or as someone else mentioned like butterscotch syrup. It's really really concentrated. A little drop will do ya! Amazing dish soap. This was my first attempt and I'm not sure it's suppose to be this thick but honestly I like it because it will last me a very long time. Question? Can I dilute it if needed and how do I dilute it? Thanks for sharing amazing video Bonnie!!!!
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If I took a bar of ivory soap and grated it up for the half ounce of 'soap base', would that work as well? What about some other bar? I am just hoping I can find something locally. I assume that a 'vegetable glycerine' soap bar would not work, right?
snowballzt 4 months ago
@snowballzt The grated soap is optional. You do not need it at all. I do not know if Ivory would work. I do not know it's chemical composition. You need to use a superfatted soap. This recipe is meant for advanced soap makers. I recommend making cold process bar soap before attempting making a potassium soap. And, if you make some bar soap you'll have some to shred down to make this with. No Vegetable Glycerine is a different kind of soap. It must be one made with oils.
EdentiaFarms 4 months ago
hi thanks for the help and the vids,, i made my first batch the other day and seemed to have turned out pretty good,,,so i am trying to make shampoo now,,does it make a diff if i use borax or citric acid to neutrilize the lye for dish soap and shampoo..was just waunder is the borax would make a harsh shampoo thanks again
wolf360090 5 months ago
@wolf360090 In one of the liquid shampoos I use boric acid and in another I used borax. The recipes were very different but both turned out well. Shampoos are tricky because hair and scalp is finicky and different types need a different kind. You'll have to experiment to see what works best for your type.
EdentiaFarms 5 months ago
Sorry for all the questions, you have been very helpful. What is best way to figure out the amount of water needed for diluting soap paste? Also what lye calc would you recommend? I have gotten large differences when trying to figure lye and water amounts for a 100% coconut oil soap. One said 19 oz of water and the other ( soapcalc) said 9 oz.
Thanks so much!
valbakke 5 months ago
@valbakke KOH soaps are just different when it comes to diluting and there is no calculator that I know of that will calculate this right. It's trial and error, depending on the ingredients you use. It can be anywhere from 1/2 soap to 1/5th soap. It just depends. Wish I could help more, it's just complex and every recipe needs to be tested. That is just diluting water. Stay on the lower end for lye-mixing water. You'll have to cook it longer if you add more.
EdentiaFarms 5 months ago
I think I screwed up. My soap was nice and bubbly when I tested to see if it was translucent, but it was cloudy. Cloudy after hours and hours of cooking so I went ahead finally and added the water and citric acid. Yeah shoulda cooked s'more cuz no more bubbles just cloudy water in my sink. Starts of with a few bubbles but gone within seconds. Lesson learned.....always follow instructions to the letter first time around.
MyWoodenBucket 5 months ago
@MyWoodenBucket Hm, sounds like it did not fully saponify. You are using KOH and not NaOH, right? Several hours should have been long enough but cloudiness is the way you tell if it's fully saponifed or not. You could put it back in a cook it some more but with adding the water it might take forever to cook it out.
EdentiaFarms 5 months ago
@EdentiaFarms Yes I used KOH. I'm thinking now maybe I just didn't measure right because that was almost all day making the soap cooking on high. Then after adding water and citric acid and it didn't bubble anymore I let it cook all night. Pretty much all the water cooked out of it and the constancy is like butterscotch syrup. I'm not really that disappointed, it was fun and a first. I will try again. Thanks Bonnie.
MyWoodenBucket 5 months ago
I made this recipe, what is a good ph for it to be at. I just got my ph test strips today! I tested the soap and it looks to be a ph of 7. Is that good? Thanks
valbakke 5 months ago
@valbakke 7 is perfect and completely neutral. Good Job!
EdentiaFarms 5 months ago
Anywhere from 7 up to 10 would be a good range for this soap.
EdentiaFarms 5 months ago
thanks-this is really awesome
urflofit2010 6 months ago
i made this recipe last night and after diluting it, it is still very thick and " trace" like. Is this normal? I had my crock pot set to low, should it have been high? Maybe I went wrong somewhere? Can I still use it? How do you figure how much citric acid to use for the soap paste? Thanks so much!
valbakke 6 months ago
@valbakke If it is too thick you can add more water until it is at the desired consistency. You could double or triple the water in this recipe with good results. Mine is thick also. I like mine just thin enough to be able to pump it in the bottle but you might like yours thinner. I figured my citric acid by trial and error with PH testing strips. You should not need to add any more citric acid than the recipe calls for.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
@valbakke I do set mine to high but more important than temperature is whether or not the soap went from creamy to translucent. When it is translucent that is when you know all the fatty acids have been neutralized by the lye and your soap is fully saponified. Does/did your soap look see-through or cloudy (before adding FO or EO)? If cloudy, it needs more cooking. If see-through (or just a tiny bit cloudy) then its finished.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
i made this recipe last night and after diluting it, it is still very thick and " trace" like. Is this normal? Maybe I went wrong somewhere? Can I still use it?
valbakke 6 months ago
Do you let the lye water solution cool at all before adding it to the oils?
valbakke 6 months ago
@valbakke No, it's not necessary in a hot process soap. You can let it cool or add it hot, whichever you prefer.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
Hey Bonnie. Thanks for this recipe and tutorial. I'm trying it right now and am at the thirty minute stage. I'm very excited. This may be a silly question but because citrus helps cut grease, if I don't add it will the soap still have the same grease cutting power?
MyWoodenBucket 6 months ago
@MyWoodenBucket It should clean up your greasy things just fine without the citrus. It's because of the structure of the molecule. One side attaches to water and the other attaches to the grease and it washes away. This dish soap works better for me than any store brand I have tried.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
You've become my favorite subscription! :) Thank you for sharing!
enemytool 6 months ago
love this, could you use just coconut oil to avoid GMO soybean oil. I can't buy organic soy oil here. Would sunflower oil work in it's place.
valbakke 6 months ago
@valbakke I get my organic soybean oil from Soaper's Choice. You can check them out. If you swap out another oil, it must be a liquid oil with the same SAP value (unless you want to recalculate the lye). You could get away with swapping Peach Kernel, Peanut or Safflower (not high oleic) in this recipe. Diluting may require more or less water.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
An all coconut oil soap would require more diluting water to be liquid. The soap would not be as concentrated.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
Love Love Love this video too! :) I have been wanting to make my own dish soap for sometime now..thank you Bonnie. :) You are making me a better soaper! xoxo
Mrssoappeddler 6 months ago
Great Video, I do the glycerin & KOH method no cooking which I love & it traces in a minute. We put ours in foamers so they last a while.
lovethyscent 6 months ago
Talk about great timing! Donna just got an account for liquid soaps and we have been talking recipes for a few days now..lol
MyNaturesArt 6 months ago
Nice job Bonnie...
SilkBathLuxuries 6 months ago
i love the soaps you make! you should look up scents/flavors like from hawaii. i went to kauai and found a scent&soap shop and they had scents like pinapple and coconut and other mixtures. youve probably used those but just giving ideas! :D
PwnToob 6 months ago
This was great Bonnie. I want to try it now. I am also wanting to try making cream soap. Have you ever tried that?
mbjlhj 6 months ago
@mbjlhj No I never tried that. I was thinking about getting the ice cream making attachment for the Kitchen-Aid so maybe I will have a go. I was thinking of making goat milk ice cream or frozen yogurt.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
Great demo. I'd like to try this recipe to cut back on CO. I'm assuming I could also use borax to nuetralize. No citric acid. Oh, thanx for the tip on adding the shredded soap, I like the shortcut, but I'd hate to waste glycerine on dish soap ;)
FarmScapeGoods 6 months ago
@FarmScapeGoods
You can use borax, sure but it will thicken the soap so that it will require further diluting making a less concentrated soap. Half an ounce of cold process soap shavings is totally worth it to cut out 30 mins or so of stirring and it will also save the life of your mixer. I use the dish soap for cleaning a lot more than dishes! It's my all-purpose kitchen and bathroom cleaner. Does't really do glass but cleans everything else nicely.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
@EdentiaFarms !!No Way!! I have paste in under an hour. I honestly don't belive it. I'm waiting for it to separate, but it's not. I had trace in 10 stinking minutes! Unbelievable! Will see if this is a flop in the morning. Never using straight water again. ;)
FarmScapeGoods 6 months ago
@FarmScapeGoods Awesome, glad that worked out for you!
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
darn not as easy as putting a bar of soap into water? ;-)
elohelreh 6 months ago
@elohelreh When I run out I just grab a bar of soap and just rub it on the sponge. I used to make and sell dish soap bars that worked great but there is not really a market for them :)
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
Thank you. I have tried to make liquid dish soap and I gave up because my recipe didn't cut grease. I'm going to try this.
kayorcee 6 months ago
@kayorcee This one works for me. Cuts the grease, gets permanent marker out and sticky stuff. Good Luck!
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
Thanks for posting this video girl! I have never made liquid soap.. but I might just try it now! =0)
mrscrafty100 6 months ago
@mrscrafty100 Thanks Dani. I also have a video for my liquid laundry soap with recipe somewhere on my YT.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
I've never tried to make liquid soap with koh. I've made laundry soap using my soap borax and baking soda. But I've been wanting to make liquid castille soap. So is this essentially the paste that you can buy to make liquid soap? You teach me all kinds of stuff. Ps the sandalwood vanilla soap smells amazing. You gotta make some. It of course turns brown but the smell is crazy good. I made hp though. Didn't want to ruin my sandalwood oil in cp.it never smells as strong in cp
sunshyneNrainxx 6 months ago
@sunshyneNrainxx
Kind of the same as the paste you can buy. A Castile Paste should be made with 100% Olive Oil. But yes, you can make your own paste. I have a few jars of paste around for when I need liquid soap immediately.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
Bonnie I have to say that was fascinating for me to watch, Hope the ducks are safe and sound! You're so good to keep going back to film so you can show us the various stages, I really appreciate the effort to share this. At the risk of embarrassing you, I have to say I think you are awesome and I don't use that word, but, it just fits. x
dianeuk01 6 months ago
@dianeuk01 Yes the ducks are fine. You're gonna make me blush ;) lol thanks.
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago
very intresting vid i may try haveing a go sometime ,the soap looks beltin and those bubbles well what can i say who needs fairy lol xx
soapiejoanne 6 months ago
@soapiejoanne Thanks Jo-jo ;)
EdentiaFarms 6 months ago