XV Challenger - Car and Driver

[deadchild66669]

If someone let me borrow there t/a challanger with 24k original miles I wouldn't be burning the tires off it. that car is worth more original then that pos resto-shit.

[cardude1992]

vintage look with modern performance? thats why dodge made the new challenger.

[TheMadDooby]

the original is worth 3 times the other so i wouldnt be complainng

[stev5816]

I know that the old muscle cars do handle like trucks and the new restomod cars handle like new ones, but what a lot of people dont understand is how much tires have an effect on the handling. The original challenger in this vid has Polyglass tires on it, which is great for show purposes but not driving, and if more modern radials were put on it, most muscle car owners now use radials even on origional cars, the car would handle 100% better. Not saying it is good as the xv but it would be better

[Espiturbo55]

this is boring

[IIIIIIBradfordIIIIII]

he compared an aspect to a Mazda Miata. All respect lost

[hemiisbest]

Love both of them

[jcol1226]

last time i recalled my 70 cuda could out handle my race car i own lol

[x666satansoldier666x]

I agree with Boredout454

[Boredout454]

Ill take the 70 Green Challenger.

[chrisxcountry1]

vintage hassles? learn how to drive it pussy

[camirocz]

@chrisxcountry1 There is nothing to learn old cars drive like shit period!

[BerriesMcGOO]

what kind of a doucher drives a muscle car for its handling?

[proximer217]

what if when chicks can be modified----good aint it?

[nfsracer14]

the original makes more fun ^^

[31Roadsterford]

5.7L HEMI, wtf??? That doesnt make any sence. If you want new HEMI, 528cid or 472cid... That camera quality is really lame? Nice test anyway :)

[luke26126]

Wow dodge great job on the styling for the new challenger! You guys are so fucking creative!

[Clockintosh]

I love this!

[Gulli1000]

I want the Original Challanger!

[TR3NDK1LL]

"If you want that vintage look with modern performance... You're gonna need alot of fuckin' money."

[matrox]

You can make those old cars handle a lot better for a lot cheaper than your restore. In fact Jay Leno recommends a place that updates the suspension on his website without doing a major restore and upgrade and at a lot cheaper cost.

[jeffbmv]

hemi is nostalgic

[buttnut1080]

You'd have to be a serious collector and challenger fan to take the original over the XV. I'd take the XV any day.

[GIwillo]

i wish i had those two in my garage (if i had one ^^).switch any time you want from modern to authentic driving experience must be great!

[occupant272]

C&D's camera work can use a lift. But that XV Challenger could have been done with more resto than mod. A 340 can be stroked to 416 and put out well above 450hp. You can put the pistol grip shifter on the Tremec. You can keep the stock gauges because those white faces look ridiculous. And the wheels are just wrong. I can see moving to 15's or 16's but you get much above that and it's disgusting. I see another Challenger with 20" rims and I'm slapping the owner's mama in the mouth.

[Moemxxxking]

@occupant272 you idiot, compare this video to one of those that came out recently, this vid came out out in 08..

[bl4ckfl4g0]

@fastvwg60 I ABSOLUTLY AGREE ...TOTAL PIECE OF CRAP!! HAHAHAA

[JETZcorp]

What I don't like:

- New Engine

- Low-Profile Tires

I like the idea of making a Challenger look stock but perform well. However, when you take away the engine, the soul of any old Mopar, that's just crossing the line. Low-profile tires are a dastardly assault on all that is holy in a muscle car or pony car. If it would be possible to get the other modifications without tacking on these acts of sacrilege, I'd love it.

Oh, wait, gotta get me a Challenger first.

[that70sshow89]

I prefer the original challenger without the modded handeling and braking...The orange modded challenger is hardly a 70 challenger at all.

[matrox]

@that70sshow89

Keep in mind this just a fancy advertisement.

[corvettefan96]

i'm not really a fan of tuning muscle cars. I'm all for restoration and stock performance. Who cares if the car handles like a boat? it's a classic example of when the guys at mopar actually made something other than a dodge grand caravan, though challengers aren't the best muscle cars.

[HEADBANGERBEAST09]

yea u can make a 40year old ca and makethem modern...called he new challenger

[ActionJeans5000]

Can Car & Driver not afford a better camera than one from a cell phone?

[nukebutcher]

what a car! bringin good suspension into an old grunty muscle car... ya cant go wrong with it. great toy!

[postma306]

that yellow challenger sounds nasty

[SauceCaptain]

Awesome car but I wonder how much it costs? You can allways get a new SRT Challenger for $40,000 WITH all the modern technology from the factory. If they were the same price I bet the performance numbers would be comparable, it would just depend on what body style you like.

[Zando24]

Well, not just that...but I'd still take the original resto-mod, because...how many of those are out there? I already see the new Challengers on the road quite a bit. The vintage ones make people say, "wow, look at that."

[RtdXyron]

True but where I live any muscle car turns heads...

I bought a 09 Mustang V8 6 months ago and there are just so few of cool cars in our country so it turns a lot of heads... oh right and pisses of people with BMW-s cause they can't keep up with it...

[Zando24]

LOL, BMW's are a little overrated and overpriced, but I guess it would depend on where you live. I'm in busy Orlando, FL, so there are alot of nice cars around here, and I always have alot of respect for cars that stand out amongst the crowd here

[RtdXyron]

lol totally agree... i mean that BMW-s have better handling than muscle cars but they are nowhere as good cause nothing is more exciting than a cool muscle car...

and i also know what you mean about cars standing out, just that i live like in the northern europe and we don't get many nice cars here at all so a stock 09 mustang turns quite a lot of heads here...

[Zando24]

Yeah I'd imagine

[3874916402]

i wonder how many people would be saying "WTF IS THAT" if i drove by in my 1985 Citation X-11 LOL

[RtdXyron]

not much , cause it doesn't look very different from average cars...

[fastvwg60]

Yeah every body would be asking themselves WHAT KIND OF A PIECE OF SHIT IS THAT ??

[3874916402]

haha its not just any old peice of shit, its a rare peice of shit :D

[wbceditor]

I agree. This is why this C&D video is just bloody ridiculous. No kidding the XV car is better than a 40-year-old original, so the real comparison should be to something modern (duh). The claim is 'supercar' performance, so let's see the proof.

[zale1993]

i would have the xv anytime

but i wudnt be disapointed if i had the ta challanger

[Troy21071989]

Well, i like both cars. The old one is really classic and its for cruising around and impressing sweet girls. The restomod is build and tuned for the racetrack. Thats my opinion

[makattak88]

what a silly comparison

[hipvspec]

what a lovely piece of kit

[bigassfordsd]

The XV is sweet, but, I rather have a hopped up old school engine over the 5.7 HEMI.

[YukonDemon]

I can appreciate the idea of having an all origional car, but lets face it. Only the rich can afford to buy a car they'll never drive. I'd take the XV any day.

[paulstewartcrane]

And the price of modifying it ??? Interesting you didn't tell the viewer THAT cost !

[dude99966]

It depends on the owner and what he wants to do with it. A normal rack and pinion steering costs around $3000 American and $1200 to install. Brakes and chassis stiffening costs as much as you want it to be. A 16 inch 6 piston calipers cost around $5000. Independent rear suspension is where most 'restomod' guys quit because is it so expensive and depends a lot of tuning, grinding, and adjusting. The kit itself costs around $4500. Hope this helps... Cheers!

[wbceditor]

Not sure where these prices come from or, more importantly, who will tune it so it doesn't end up killing you, but the XV setup is engineered to work. The brakes, for example, is a front-to-back system that's track tuned on this exact car (it doesn't just fit the car, it works with the car). The K-frame is aluminum, sheds the torsion bars for coil-overs and uses C5 lower control arms and fabbed uppers. As for stiffening, it's all part of the package, not as 'much as you want it to be.'