Thank you for keeping this great style of playing alive. I'm curious is you know how Dave Tough played. I always heard that he had a simple but very swinging style. He seems to be incredibly respected. Is there enough clear recorded documentation of him to emulate his particular approach to jazz drumming?
I've been revisting Dave Tough over the last few days. There are a couple of early tracks with Red Nichols, 1930, some with Bunny Berigan, 1935, Tommy Dorsey's Clambake Seven, 35 I think, some with The Dorsey Orch, then Benny Goodman, including some small groups, Rex Stewart Jack Teagarden Big 8, 1940, a few with Condon &Wild Bill Davison and the incredible Woody Herman records from 45. There is a live session with Bill Harris and Charlie Ventura.
Hi> If you have been playing that long your technique should be sound. Learning jazz means listening to the guys I mentioned above and learing how to swing.
man I'm fifteen and I WISH I could play drums........and If I could play I would want to play jazz the most because it is so offset sometimes and I just love the overall groove to it
15 is a good age to start. Go and do it. Playing jazz means listening to the great players and you need to go back to the pioneer New Orleans drummers, Baby Dodds, Zutty Singleton etc, the swing era players like Gene Krupa. I have some articles about these players and soundclips on my web site. Google 'John Petters' it will take you there. Go for it. Get a pair of sticks and a practice pad. Keep swinging
I knew Zutty and listened to him close up times. I got to know Gene for awhile during his last years. I remember watching Gene practice on a Gladstone practice pad. I still shiver when I remember that. I remember Gene doing the cowbell thing having a three over a four feel. Maybe it was one of those dare I say sound "tricks" he did so brilliantly. By that I mean, playing something that is really simple but thanks to touch and awareness of the sound of the drums it becomes much more.
Well done, except that is NOT how the cowbell figure goes. It is tom tom to cowbell to stick on bass drum in a triplet form. Gene teaches how to do this on the tape Gene Krupa Jazz Legend.
Thank you. You are are partly right. I checked the video and the Gene Krupa Drum Method and the notation and the film rightly shows the tom tom to cowbell, which I had forgotten. In fact I played a variation on Zutty Singleton's figure. But it is not a triplet. The notation does not show it as a triplet either. Thank you for your observation. Just shows how important it is to keep listening and studying the masters. Keep swinging, John
You know, on the Gene Krupa Swing Swing Swing DVD, he also does this, but not exactly the same. Krupa does a more "spedup" version and his hitting the hi-hat on the downstroke and the upstroke for a more showy effect. I need to go look at it more to remember it entirely.
I love it. Nobody plays like that anymore. Great job keeping the old traditions alive.
shraunbone 1 year ago
Compliments on most of this piece, however the cowbell lick you play is incorrect. What Gene and Buddy played id a triple pattern
R-hand (tom-tom)
R-hand (cowbell) than the bassdrum hit backhanded with the left stick, While the bass pedal is softly playing 4/4 time. Cheers AvB!
2LOUD2LOUD 2 years ago
Thank's for that. I've checked and I think you are correct.
Keep swinging
John
johnpetters 2 years ago
this sounds really cool, im not really a drummer but this seems really interesting and you play really well :) x
kooliobabe 2 years ago
radio 2 rules
ibandit 2 years ago
That was great Mr peters!
Ruffet22 2 years ago
Thank you John.I will use that in one of my solos.
ClassicJazzDrummer09 2 years ago
Mr. Pettters,
Thank you for keeping this great style of playing alive. I'm curious is you know how Dave Tough played. I always heard that he had a simple but very swinging style. He seems to be incredibly respected. Is there enough clear recorded documentation of him to emulate his particular approach to jazz drumming?
drummer78 3 years ago
Hi Drummer78,
I've been revisting Dave Tough over the last few days. There are a couple of early tracks with Red Nichols, 1930, some with Bunny Berigan, 1935, Tommy Dorsey's Clambake Seven, 35 I think, some with The Dorsey Orch, then Benny Goodman, including some small groups, Rex Stewart Jack Teagarden Big 8, 1940, a few with Condon &Wild Bill Davison and the incredible Woody Herman records from 45. There is a live session with Bill Harris and Charlie Ventura.
johnpetters 3 years ago
if there's a god, it's Gene Krupa!!
jazzmessenger8 3 years ago
You have an incredible feel.
freebeer3399 3 years ago
Can you make a five minute video of drum soloing like Krupa because my younger brother has found he has a liking for Krupa
beefjerkyinmymouth 4 years ago
Jazz is really my favorite style of drumming, and your videos have given me a lot of new ideas. Thank you very much!
KruspeFish 4 years ago 4
do it while ur 15 im 22 been playing 18 years but im just starting to learn jazz.
grimreepher 4 years ago
Hi> If you have been playing that long your technique should be sound. Learning jazz means listening to the guys I mentioned above and learing how to swing.
Good Luck
John
johnpetters 4 years ago
man I'm fifteen and I WISH I could play drums........and If I could play I would want to play jazz the most because it is so offset sometimes and I just love the overall groove to it
STRATman2614 4 years ago
15 is a good age to start. Go and do it. Playing jazz means listening to the great players and you need to go back to the pioneer New Orleans drummers, Baby Dodds, Zutty Singleton etc, the swing era players like Gene Krupa. I have some articles about these players and soundclips on my web site. Google 'John Petters' it will take you there. Go for it. Get a pair of sticks and a practice pad. Keep swinging
John
johnpetters 4 years ago
I knew Zutty and listened to him close up times. I got to know Gene for awhile during his last years. I remember watching Gene practice on a Gladstone practice pad. I still shiver when I remember that. I remember Gene doing the cowbell thing having a three over a four feel. Maybe it was one of those dare I say sound "tricks" he did so brilliantly. By that I mean, playing something that is really simple but thanks to touch and awareness of the sound of the drums it becomes much more.
drdee51 4 years ago
You were very lucky to know these great players. Both of them had something extra special that us mere mortals can only nod towards.
Keep swinging
John
johnpetters 4 years ago
Well done, except that is NOT how the cowbell figure goes. It is tom tom to cowbell to stick on bass drum in a triplet form. Gene teaches how to do this on the tape Gene Krupa Jazz Legend.
drdee51 4 years ago
Thank you. You are are partly right. I checked the video and the Gene Krupa Drum Method and the notation and the film rightly shows the tom tom to cowbell, which I had forgotten. In fact I played a variation on Zutty Singleton's figure. But it is not a triplet. The notation does not show it as a triplet either. Thank you for your observation. Just shows how important it is to keep listening and studying the masters. Keep swinging, John
johnpetters 4 years ago
You know, on the Gene Krupa Swing Swing Swing DVD, he also does this, but not exactly the same. Krupa does a more "spedup" version and his hitting the hi-hat on the downstroke and the upstroke for a more showy effect. I need to go look at it more to remember it entirely.
ciminoo 4 years ago
It's a pity that today young dummers don't use these things
bluedeviljazz 4 years ago
I'm 13 and i'm watching this :P
I love jazz and jazz drumming.
AeroAstro 4 years ago 2
Ton of drummers don't like these styles!!! Welcome in Swingville: Ciao from Italy
bluedeviljazz 4 years ago
hey guy!!! GREAT!!!
albertrombone 4 years ago
Brilliant!!!! great feel
guysanzo 5 years ago
Well done!
genemz 5 years ago