I have a fobus paddle for my Beretta 92 and one for my Walther P99. Love 'em - they are less expensive and work better than some of the leather I have.
Initially the pull seems hard, but after time the holster eases a bit and you learn the angle of least resistance on the draw. A fast firm pull seems to be the best with the fobus.
Some of the guys are bitching out over wearing a belt - with normal fitting jeans I have had no problems.
I've got 11 fobus holsters, and one trick i've found is to preheat your oven to 150, and stick the holster on a cookie sheet for about 10 minutes. Then hold it, and quickly holster and draw about 20 times. It will loosen up the retention about 10 percent of the "out of the box" condition, and it will never change again. Obviously, the heat softens it enuf to change slightly, but the holstering and drawing quickly cools it off quickly, causing it to harden more than it was before. It works!!!
what's next a shoulder holster without shoulders? lol JK,
I am having the same issue even with my fobus attached to my belt, it's tight like a high school prom night, but everyone tells me their fobus was really tight until a couple hundred draws, so keep working it till she loosens up :) (man that post sounded a bit naughty) lol
a belt helps and after 100 draws it will loosen up. when i got my fobus for my beretta it was very hard to draw but after 100 draws or so it started to loosen up. with my glock / fobus setup i can carry it with gym shorts with the drawstring good and tight.
Nice review, but Fobus holsters as a rule lock onto the trigger guard and the screw will let you set the tension of that lock. Loosen the screw and you will be able to easily draw that weapon with one hand while holding off your attacker with the other. I can tell by the loud CLICK when you insert the weapon that you have it too tight.
I'm going to put my quarter in. Mr. Steve, purchase a hairdryer or a heat gun and you will get the nylon trigger guard to where you are comfortable with it. I do not want to know where you received your training on carry and draw, but you do deserve your money back. Yall, like every weapon there is a break in time, fobus is no different. I trust my 3 fobus as much as I do my serpas and safarilands. Just like you know your weapon, and you as a platform, know what you are doing. Roto fobus!
I also do not wear a belt with my Fobus paddle holsters.I have "love handles' ha ha, and the paddle sticks to me good.Yes a belt helps with the retention and also keeps a heavy gun from pulling your pants down but I normally do not wear a belt.If I have a choice of belt holster and no carry or paddle holster and carry it is the paddle holster every time.Not putting a belt on to check the mail or to walk down the block to buy a six pack-not me.Also like he said it is easy to take off for work.
@wagner993 The convenience store I buy my beer from usually has been robbed three times in the last 4-5 years.Hopefully it wont be robbed when Im in there (sober of course) buying beer on a late insomniac night.I don't know if you were being sarcastic or serious.I can't drink alcohol and carry but I can buy beer and carry as long as the place isn't SERVING alcohol.
-Use a quick draw motion to cleanly pull the firearm out.
I've been using a Fobus GL2B for 2 years and love it. Sits in nice and tight, strong "no button" retention (aka Level 2 holsters), it's comfortable. SERPA holsters are GREAT Level 2 belt holsters, but just personal opinion I don't care much for their paddle.
@jjferkatch Thanks for the suggestion. I"ll look into those holsters. I actually have a really expensive beltman belt. I wear it when I open carry my large Ruger Vaquero.
@SuperSneakySteve ya man you really need a belt, looking at the way your trying to draw it looks like you just need to commit to it more- if you pull hard and fast like you mean it and you really need it now it'll come right out. fyi those Serpa holsters are really nice, I have a level 1 for my XD .45, they are a little large for CCW though so you may want to check out Raven Tactical & Minotaur aka Comp-tac which are my fav. :-)
@SuperSneakySteve In order to safely carry with a holster you really need to wear a belt for stability. If you arent worried about, or taking the proper cautions for, weapon retention you have no business carrying.
Belts only help fat people. My butt stops the belt from going down, but when pulling up it needs something like your belly to stop it from sliding up.
I just got a blackhawk SERPA holster after wasting 30+ dollars on this POS. Don't buy the fobus holsters the rivets all fail and the gun will fall on to the ground
@antwonza I'm with you there. Bought a Fobus just like this for my Beretta 92. After about 25 draws it became way too loose and accessible drawing at all angles (it should only be straight up), which is dangerous. I will be getting the SERPA for my PX4 that allows for both belt and paddle.
I liked the Fobus at first. It was very comfortable and nice and tight, but now it is just a danger to me so I'll never use it for concealed carry.
Hey Thanks for the review. You seem like a conscientious kid, so let me give you some advice. On any gun handling video you should always (on camera) check the gun for empty and show people that you have done that. It just shows the good practice of gun owners to the rest of the world. Other than that the vid was good.
The paddle isnt designed for if you dont want to wear a belt its so you dont have to attach it to a belt. You still need a belt to make it effective. You shouldnt have the problems you are having with your draw if you would put on a belt. Heck it could even be a cheap walmart belt. Rremember your carry system is as good as the gear you add to it.
with the fobus... you need to take like a hair dryer on the trigger part of the holster to expand that plastic... do that bro and work it out a couple times and you'll change your mind on that
i just got the evolution for my mp 45 the retention was so tight on it when i holstered the gun it actually slid the action back on the gun. what you need to to is push the gun in and out of the holster (holster and reholster) the gun atleast 100 times it makes a world of differance
It is better to have a holster that has actuator or switch of a kind to release the weapon lock, that way you don't have to worry about pulling with pressure.
Any fobus holster new takes some breaking in. Theres an Evolution version with a tension screw and a roto evolution that allows you to switch the way you draw it.
Slide it back some. The fobus paddle holsters have a slightly forward cant, and are designed to be worn at the 3:00 - 3:30 o'clock position. The gun is designed to be pulled straight out. If you are wearing it too far forward, then you are pulling it out at too much of a rearward angle and it won't release. Plus it would also be very uncomfortable to sit down with the gun that far forward.
Good video, you demonstrated the action of the holster, you weren't over biased (as you stated you were sure and that the holster was new). How's the holster shaping up for you now? Do you still use it? Has it loosen up?
I have a the same design from fobus for my Glock 19, it is tight, however if you wear a belt, and you draw very fast, the holster no longer moves, you cant draw slow with that style, you have to pull it fast.
Exactly my thoughts. I had the same issue with my Taurus PT 24/7 Pro DS. I kept trying to pull it out slow. One quick motion, and BAM. Safety off and gun in hand. Perfect draw. Fobus RU97 holster for me was tight, but I have come to like it. Fast pull solves the issue.
I have this exact same model holster, I have not experianced the same problems you have. I would make two very minor suggestions. 1.) slide the holster farther back just allowing a proper 90 degree draw and 2.) if you wear a belt with your pants should clear up about 90% of your problems. just my $.02
thanks for showing this, I was thinking about getting one, but after watching this, I think I will look into something else. Not a very good draw from this one
I have a fobus paddle for my Beretta 92 and one for my Walther P99. Love 'em - they are less expensive and work better than some of the leather I have.
Initially the pull seems hard, but after time the holster eases a bit and you learn the angle of least resistance on the draw. A fast firm pull seems to be the best with the fobus.
Some of the guys are bitching out over wearing a belt - with normal fitting jeans I have had no problems.
donhixon 1 week ago
BELT=NO PROBLEM AND YOUR LIFE SAVED !!!
3006USMC 2 weeks ago
first off a belt will fix the problem, second you have that holster way way too far forword
mattc1683 3 weeks ago
I've got 11 fobus holsters, and one trick i've found is to preheat your oven to 150, and stick the holster on a cookie sheet for about 10 minutes. Then hold it, and quickly holster and draw about 20 times. It will loosen up the retention about 10 percent of the "out of the box" condition, and it will never change again. Obviously, the heat softens it enuf to change slightly, but the holstering and drawing quickly cools it off quickly, causing it to harden more than it was before. It works!!!
adrinachrone 3 weeks ago
what's next a shoulder holster without shoulders? lol JK,
I am having the same issue even with my fobus attached to my belt, it's tight like a high school prom night, but everyone tells me their fobus was really tight until a couple hundred draws, so keep working it till she loosens up :) (man that post sounded a bit naughty) lol
hvinny 4 weeks ago
Draw harder. It's not supposed to slide out.
PolishPrisoner 3 months ago
a belt helps and after 100 draws it will loosen up. when i got my fobus for my beretta it was very hard to draw but after 100 draws or so it started to loosen up. with my glock / fobus setup i can carry it with gym shorts with the drawstring good and tight.
ihearvoices22 4 months ago
Try wearing a belt!
adavisamity442 5 months ago
Nice review, but Fobus holsters as a rule lock onto the trigger guard and the screw will let you set the tension of that lock. Loosen the screw and you will be able to easily draw that weapon with one hand while holding off your attacker with the other. I can tell by the loud CLICK when you insert the weapon that you have it too tight.
Rattlebars 5 months ago
put a belt on
bearfootdaddy1 5 months ago
ummmm, you need a BELT for it to work properly
bruce21b 5 months ago
I found the sticking problem with one fobus myself.. and sold it.
wissn2112 6 months ago
you might want to adjust the retention screw.. and wear a belt, nylon perhaps.
TraumaJunkie21 7 months ago
wear a belt problem solved if your going to carry then do it right. A good belt makes all the difference in the world
Deadshot1130 7 months ago
B E L T !!!!!!!!! You must have belt for it
davidlan12 9 months ago
I'm going to put my quarter in. Mr. Steve, purchase a hairdryer or a heat gun and you will get the nylon trigger guard to where you are comfortable with it. I do not want to know where you received your training on carry and draw, but you do deserve your money back. Yall, like every weapon there is a break in time, fobus is no different. I trust my 3 fobus as much as I do my serpas and safarilands. Just like you know your weapon, and you as a platform, know what you are doing. Roto fobus!
XGCScrappy 11 months ago
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ekserchina 1 year ago
@ekserchina From the Smith & Wesson FAQ section from their official web site:
Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?
A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.
.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.
You're a dumbass. Just sayin' ya know.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago 20
@ekserchina you should know your stuff before you post
gunsdirect 9 months ago
@ekserchina Its a revolver dumbass. It doesnt matter, hell even if it was an automatic it wouldnt fucking matter.
The3rdID 1 month ago
Those are intended to have a "quick-snap" kind of draw. You going to need a weapon, you need it quickly! You're not going to drag slowly on it!
Jollyprez 1 year ago
Stick with it the fobus passive retention will loosen up after a while, once you break it in.
soldier3941 1 year ago
I also do not wear a belt with my Fobus paddle holsters.I have "love handles' ha ha, and the paddle sticks to me good.Yes a belt helps with the retention and also keeps a heavy gun from pulling your pants down but I normally do not wear a belt.If I have a choice of belt holster and no carry or paddle holster and carry it is the paddle holster every time.Not putting a belt on to check the mail or to walk down the block to buy a six pack-not me.Also like he said it is easy to take off for work.
ITSMETHEFLASH 1 year ago
@ITSMETHEFLASH you take your gun to buy beer? .....smart
wagner993 1 year ago
@wagner993 The convenience store I buy my beer from usually has been robbed three times in the last 4-5 years.Hopefully it wont be robbed when Im in there (sober of course) buying beer on a late insomniac night.I don't know if you were being sarcastic or serious.I can't drink alcohol and carry but I can buy beer and carry as long as the place isn't SERVING alcohol.
ITSMETHEFLASH 1 year ago
3 rules for Level 1 retention paddle holsters...
-Normal fitting waist on jeans or pants
-Wear a belt!
-Use a quick draw motion to cleanly pull the firearm out.
I've been using a Fobus GL2B for 2 years and love it. Sits in nice and tight, strong "no button" retention (aka Level 2 holsters), it's comfortable. SERPA holsters are GREAT Level 2 belt holsters, but just personal opinion I don't care much for their paddle.
PTpaintballJoe 1 year ago
@jjferkatch Thanks for the suggestion. I"ll look into those holsters. I actually have a really expensive beltman belt. I wear it when I open carry my large Ruger Vaquero.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
@SuperSneakySteve ya man you really need a belt, looking at the way your trying to draw it looks like you just need to commit to it more- if you pull hard and fast like you mean it and you really need it now it'll come right out. fyi those Serpa holsters are really nice, I have a level 1 for my XD .45, they are a little large for CCW though so you may want to check out Raven Tactical & Minotaur aka Comp-tac which are my fav. :-)
aodhanof90 1 year ago
good Job I had the same holster, loosen the screw just below the trigger and you will be all right..
Azian2008 1 year ago
ermm you need a belt and it will get loose with time also.
sfksoldier 1 year ago 5
@sfksoldier I hate belts. I bought this paddle holster because it doesn't require a belt. I do have traditional belt look holsters too though.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
@SuperSneakySteve i hate belts too :D i feel you.
sfksoldier 1 year ago
@SuperSneakySteve In order to safely carry with a holster you really need to wear a belt for stability. If you arent worried about, or taking the proper cautions for, weapon retention you have no business carrying.
GellyNose 1 year ago
@GellyNose I have the right to carry anyway I want to. It is my business to carry and none of yours. This is America ass wipe :D
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago 8
Belts only help fat people. My butt stops the belt from going down, but when pulling up it needs something like your belly to stop it from sliding up.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
HFS, wear a belt.
Don't get stuck on stupid.
jasonuscg 1 year ago
I just got a blackhawk SERPA holster after wasting 30+ dollars on this POS. Don't buy the fobus holsters the rivets all fail and the gun will fall on to the ground
antwonza 1 year ago
@antwonza I'm with you there. Bought a Fobus just like this for my Beretta 92. After about 25 draws it became way too loose and accessible drawing at all angles (it should only be straight up), which is dangerous. I will be getting the SERPA for my PX4 that allows for both belt and paddle.
I liked the Fobus at first. It was very comfortable and nice and tight, but now it is just a danger to me so I'll never use it for concealed carry.
drunkasssteve 1 year ago
this is why people wear belts wtf dude use ur brain or atleast google.
EwFreDDe 1 year ago
LOL yeah, try getting a gun belt. Or even a belt period, holy shit. Also, fobus sucks,.
sandelpop 1 year ago
Hey Thanks for the review. You seem like a conscientious kid, so let me give you some advice. On any gun handling video you should always (on camera) check the gun for empty and show people that you have done that. It just shows the good practice of gun owners to the rest of the world. Other than that the vid was good.
mytube321 1 year ago
The paddle isnt designed for if you dont want to wear a belt its so you dont have to attach it to a belt. You still need a belt to make it effective. You shouldnt have the problems you are having with your draw if you would put on a belt. Heck it could even be a cheap walmart belt. Rremember your carry system is as good as the gear you add to it.
Cheap belt, Cheap holster, cheap gun = Cheap Rig
Good belt, Good gun, Good holster = Good Rig
Great Belt, Great Gun, Great Holster = Great Rig
jokermann77 1 year ago
with the fobus... you need to take like a hair dryer on the trigger part of the holster to expand that plastic... do that bro and work it out a couple times and you'll change your mind on that
khedrick89 2 years ago
How about you wear a belt genius!!!!!!
bigbub17399 2 years ago 2
They should have put an adjustable screw on it instead of a rivit. Also they are made to work with a belt and they will loosen up a little over time.
xXBallistic82Xx 2 years ago
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PTpaintballJoe 2 years ago
Belt!
evilla56 2 years ago
I just got one for the Ruger SR9.....no complaints do recommend wearing a belt.
SBfordconn 2 years ago
Thanks for the info.I am in the market for a holster for the same type of gun.
gee34 2 years ago
fobus holsters are meant for the draw to be a quick jerk, not a deliberate pressure draw.
kagekicker 2 years ago 2
no offense but wear a fucking belt and you wont have the problem
Grasshopper257 2 years ago 29
i agree grasshopper. your wisdom has excelled grasshopper LOL
baker70romeo 2 years ago
agreed, their paddles can be worn without a belt.. but they really need a belt to work right.
also not sure what model this is but the evolution series holsters have an adjustable tension screw.
ideally.. imo you want it to hold the gun tight enough that you can't shake it out of the holster upside down (with the gun unloaded of course).
you can also try lubing the inside lightly with some gun oil on your finger.
opisex 2 years ago
@Grasshopper257 even with a belt its still hard dumbass
ibanezkid07 1 year ago
@ibanezkid07 Uh ya I own several fobus holsters dumbass, Its not hard with a belt.
Grasshopper257 1 year ago
@Grasshopper257 +1 he wants to strap. i see its more fashion than function to this kid
auradud3 6 months ago
Just got mine for a Sub compact auto. There is a screw for tension adjustment. Got it adjusted perfect now.
rebelrobz 2 years ago
i just got the evolution for my mp 45 the retention was so tight on it when i holstered the gun it actually slid the action back on the gun. what you need to to is push the gun in and out of the holster (holster and reholster) the gun atleast 100 times it makes a world of differance
samuel2041 2 years ago
It is better to have a holster that has actuator or switch of a kind to release the weapon lock, that way you don't have to worry about pulling with pressure.
IndianSettler 2 years ago
Any fobus holster new takes some breaking in. Theres an Evolution version with a tension screw and a roto evolution that allows you to switch the way you draw it.
Pseudosomniac 2 years ago
get a belt....They work better...
Trebor998 2 years ago 3
Slide it back some. The fobus paddle holsters have a slightly forward cant, and are designed to be worn at the 3:00 - 3:30 o'clock position. The gun is designed to be pulled straight out. If you are wearing it too far forward, then you are pulling it out at too much of a rearward angle and it won't release. Plus it would also be very uncomfortable to sit down with the gun that far forward.
TheCouchCrusader 2 years ago
first off u need a good gun belt there magnum P.I
KLmatt3006 2 years ago 23
Good video, you demonstrated the action of the holster, you weren't over biased (as you stated you were sure and that the holster was new). How's the holster shaping up for you now? Do you still use it? Has it loosen up?
dmsnsa6679 2 years ago
I have a the same design from fobus for my Glock 19, it is tight, however if you wear a belt, and you draw very fast, the holster no longer moves, you cant draw slow with that style, you have to pull it fast.
IndIka024 2 years ago 3
Exactly my thoughts. I had the same issue with my Taurus PT 24/7 Pro DS. I kept trying to pull it out slow. One quick motion, and BAM. Safety off and gun in hand. Perfect draw. Fobus RU97 holster for me was tight, but I have come to like it. Fast pull solves the issue.
NoRegrets187 2 years ago
You don't want to draw with two hands. If you didn't notice, you muzzled your support hand when performing a two hand draw.
xRapidDavex 2 years ago
I have this exact same model holster, I have not experianced the same problems you have. I would make two very minor suggestions. 1.) slide the holster farther back just allowing a proper 90 degree draw and 2.) if you wear a belt with your pants should clear up about 90% of your problems. just my $.02
LLCranford3 2 years ago
90% of your problem will be solved if you wear a belt.
LLCranford3 2 years ago 2
thanks for showing this, I was thinking about getting one, but after watching this, I think I will look into something else. Not a very good draw from this one
brystr2 2 years ago
I won't be buying that style holster! Thanks 5stars
motomissle 2 years ago
guns r so cool
we don't have that kind of thing over here in the UK
shit eh
:(
sweetypie000 2 years ago
Why do you need speed? I prefer this one you use.. gives the kids in the schools a chance ot run ;)
bluenapalm123 2 years ago
and then kill any nigga! \m/
lvldsnr 2 years ago