amature.. hehe, a lot of people are starting on 2 finger these days.. i started that until i got my own balls, but ya... its hard to maintain high revs due to the fact its more one hand then 2, but ya
idk, i just noticed some finger movement outside the ball.... maybe its my brightness settings but its hard to tell..... i guess it could be his index finger
This ball seemed at 1st to be just another dull surfaced uncontrolable hook monster but I was so wrong, the more I used it the more I loved it, it grows on you, it just takes some time to break it in(about 30 games or so), once she's broke in the BW is the most strong yet predictable hooking ball I've ever thrown. I'm able to play so many different lines with this ball & still carry end pins. If I'm playing deep center arrow tight, swing shot or even the ditch the ball reads the lanes sweet.
i have to agree with you even though this is my first ball with a core i thought it was just all looks until i saw its performance on the lanes.I SIMPLY LOVE MY BLACK WIDOW!!!
i am considering getting the black widow pearl as it is £63 ($129) and from reviews it gives a harder turn than the normal black widow so i am considering getting it its also got a rep oif sucking up oil aswell tho
The only ball that is comparable to this ball in performance without having to crank the ball to get it there is a Fury. The difference is the Widow is more controlable and persistant. I too have a Fury low grit finish.
I bet I could get 450 rpm's w/ 12-13 mph..... BTW, I just got my Widow (600 grit) drilled and throw 3 games: 223,242,248. This ball is amazing. I picked up 100+pins on my previous 132 average on a reactive resin conventional grip. I used the second drill layoutin the 1st drill pattern. The layouts come with your ball and this one is for madium to heavy oily lanes. I was throwing it right handed on the fourth board from the right and getting strikes or nine pins down every time.
Plastic balls do not suck for spare conversions! I have no idea why the fuck anyone would argue and say plastic balls suck for spares. All the pros use plastic balls to pick up their spares, as do I. Trust me, if you are a high rev bowler, the best thing for you is a plastic ball for spares!!!
If you can't pick up a single pin with this ball then you should leave this sport. My question was intended for questioning the travel this ball has. Since noone really responded, I decided to buy it and try it myself. I will recieve it weds. Oh, one more thing.... polyester/plastic balls suck...even for pick up. I wou;d atleast go with reactive resin.
Well, when missing my targets become a habit, I will look into reactive resin. So if this ball truly sucks, what would you recommend? I was thinking No Mercy, or this black widow pearl (Strange how the 15lbs ball has more curve than the 16lbs). Maybe a Road Hawg. I won't argue with you, because I am still new to this sport and I am not going to pretend I know what the hell I am talking about.
1 question..... why didn't he show us a pick up with that same ball? I bet the 10 pin is hell to pick up with it and this video could have made a better scor by me by doing so. Too bad, for all I know, he guttered after the 9 pins were down.
Nobody really uses their striker to pick up balls. That is what those plastic/polyester balls are for. They shoot more straight. My first ball is a polyester ball. It shoots very straight. I rarely miss with that thing. But these balls with good spin, aren't really used for a single pin. That is like complaining that nobody uses plastic spare ball grabbers for strikes. Know what I mean?
If you watch the video closely you can see the ball go into the gutter and pop back out to convert the split. lol It was an accident, but funny I caught it on tape.
A great lesson to any bowler is being able to play multiple lines you dumb fuck! Wow are you a hater. Probably because your so young and arrogant! Did mommy and daddy not love you enough? I test out the bowling balls i have during practice to see what kind of angles i can get away with. Go fuck yourself and have a nice day! =)
Is there someone who knows the name of the group and/or song in what in the ending part of the chorus always say "...black widow" and a whisper repeats "(black widow)". The vocalist's voice seems a little like the Accept or AC/DC vocalists.
im "skeptical" about the whole "44 foot oil pattern" cause i bowled on the shark pattern tonight and that is a 44 foot PBA shot and i had very little backend.. and i use an infinite one that has alot of backend on shorter patterns like the viper (37 feet) im not calling you a liar or anyhting like that though
Unless.... Unless the pattern your on in this video is a typical house shot thats just longer.. if thats the case its believible cause theres alot of dry outside
Never said it was the shark pattern. And yes I practice on PBA oil patterns quite often. I know what they are like. This was a modified heavy oil house shot.
oh ok.. and i just came back a watched this vid and looked at my comment and i was like.. "did i really say that.. why the hell did i say that" i think i was drunk that night or something cause obviously ur not getting alot of back end.. because ur playing slow and deep inside which i how i played the shark
or atleast on most shots ur inside like i was.. ur not outside 10 much in this vid which is how i was on the shark.. stood about 30 and was never outside 12 unless i screwed up lol
Good video! I'm an inside player also, and I had one of these as well. Local center flooded the house shot, so I had to get something stronger, but this ball is superb overall. Mine was drilled pin over at 5 inches from PAP, MB at 3 inches from PAP. I'm a strong tweener, hitting 15th board at arrows, hitting 5th board at breakpoint. I'm eventually drilling another for a stronger midlane roll soon. Two thumbs up!
Some great shots. the ball seems really versatile. especially when you were taking just one step. really nice. the song is good too. Back when killswitch still had a lot of creativity in them. Anyway, nice bowling, ball looks great.
This ball is crap, stay far far away. Three peeps I know had this ball lose incedible reaction and hitting power within a few months of using it and they all ave.210+ stay away from this ball, it is utter crap.
I personally have this ball, and love it. Although, I'm an inside bowler and don't like a ton of revs to it. Makes getting 10 pins hard, but splits easy. =P
i through the same line as you. i just bought the widow a used it for the 1st time last night. through a 743 series out of the box. its a fucking monster. a little hard to controll but one you find your mak watch out.
Did you read the description of the video at all? What kind of fucktard are you??? This is a sunday morning practice session. In order to become a really good bowler you must be able to adapt to the lane conditions. On this oil pattern I was experimenting with different lines. Have fun throwing your "house" line on a PBA oil pattern you dumb fuck!
Nice videos man. I recently got into bowling and got a question. As a cranker is it optimum to have your thumb fit all the way in? I'm asking this is because the guy who drilled my ball said it's fine to just have the tip just inside...my buds think he's just too lazy to re-drill it.
You thumb should always be fully inserted into the ball, you should also check to make sure that it can stay on your hand while keeping your hand completely relaxed inside the ball with minimal wrist cupping.
I currently use the ebonite big time and i have had it for over a year and a half and it doesnt seem to be getting the carry it use to. How does the black widow compare to the big time?
Wow, that is one sick ball dude!! I'm assuming you stick with your Ebonite ball for light oil surfaces? I definitely gotta look into investing in one of those!
nice shot 2 lanes over at 1:03
gardnerklein 2 years ago
u cant handle that ball bro "three 300's with that" eat that
RyanTheK 3 years ago
At 1:04 the guy made a 4-10, but he bounced out of the gutter....still was nice
atomicweight7842 3 years ago
o shit,that was pretty awesome
smokawat 2 years ago
dude wtf 8 lanes?? that must be hard to get a lane :P, 24 where i go
alienfromhell 3 years ago
it's not that uncommon. where i am, we have 40-lane centers and also 4- and 6- lane ones. but then, the smaller ones are usually five-pin
derekli04 3 years ago
i noticed in a couple shots, but it looks like you're using the amateur "two-finger" method...
I might be wrong but it looks like your thumb isn't in the ball
either way, im satisfied, i want this ball
NewYorkCity212 3 years ago
amature.. hehe, a lot of people are starting on 2 finger these days.. i started that until i got my own balls, but ya... its hard to maintain high revs due to the fact its more one hand then 2, but ya
alienfromhell 3 years ago
im not having a go or anything but if he was using a two finger method how could he get such a high backswing the ball would fly out of his hand
stormBIGbowling 3 years ago
I used 2 and get higher rev than most
quikfalcon 3 years ago
idk, i just noticed some finger movement outside the ball.... maybe its my brightness settings but its hard to tell..... i guess it could be his index finger
NewYorkCity212 3 years ago
This ball seemed at 1st to be just another dull surfaced uncontrolable hook monster but I was so wrong, the more I used it the more I loved it, it grows on you, it just takes some time to break it in(about 30 games or so), once she's broke in the BW is the most strong yet predictable hooking ball I've ever thrown. I'm able to play so many different lines with this ball & still carry end pins. If I'm playing deep center arrow tight, swing shot or even the ditch the ball reads the lanes sweet.
k24skin 3 years ago
i have to agree with you even though this is my first ball with a core i thought it was just all looks until i saw its performance on the lanes.I SIMPLY LOVE MY BLACK WIDOW!!!
sideshow45 3 years ago
ha same here
parkerhoda5 3 years ago
how often would u need to resurface the hammer black widow?
chipmonk51264 4 years ago
i luv this ball so much i made a cushion in DT at school and used the design of the black widow as a bowling ball cushion coz i luv it so much
chipmonk51264 4 years ago
thats not 18 mph
heelycrazy821 4 years ago
i was thinking the same thing. looks like about 16 to me, because it looks about my ball speed which is 16.5 average i'd say
rocky5705 2 years ago
.......it deffinitely didnt pop out of the gutter...
sniped93 4 years ago
your right, it must of hooked insanely hard in 4 feet to get the pin, with almost no revs on it. It popped out of the gutter.
Curtie555 4 years ago
i have the pearl edition, average up 30 pins :)
amazing on all patterns, you just need to learn how to ajust
gitaway 4 years ago
best part of this video is the split convertion on lane 8 near the begging of the vid at 1 min 2 sec i think i believe it was the 4-10
knobsworth 4 years ago
If you had eyes you can see the ball pop out of the gutter. OOPSIES! lol
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
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wtf .. who's using my account to watch/comment on a stupid bowling video ..
knobsworth 4 years ago
always hits the pocket! i love this ball too much! always snaps at the end
dkmdv14 4 years ago
man...the music just ruins it.
groovy4 4 years ago
wow i have the same problem it hooks in the pocket just right but then theres always 1 pin standing at the end...
dkmdv14 4 years ago
Slow the ball down a bit, and the thing hooks like a beauty
mowdowndafaces4 4 years ago
i am considering getting the black widow pearl as it is £63 ($129) and from reviews it gives a harder turn than the normal black widow so i am considering getting it its also got a rep oif sucking up oil aswell tho
chipmunk512643 4 years ago
The only ball that is comparable to this ball in performance without having to crank the ball to get it there is a Fury. The difference is the Widow is more controlable and persistant. I too have a Fury low grit finish.
This it truely a Turkey Bagging Ball.
I hate the 500 character limit.
TankerGodDX 4 years ago
I bet I could get 450 rpm's w/ 12-13 mph..... BTW, I just got my Widow (600 grit) drilled and throw 3 games: 223,242,248. This ball is amazing. I picked up 100+pins on my previous 132 average on a reactive resin conventional grip. I used the second drill layoutin the 1st drill pattern. The layouts come with your ball and this one is for madium to heavy oily lanes. I was throwing it right handed on the fourth board from the right and getting strikes or nine pins down every time.
TankerGodDX 4 years ago
Congrats on the series! Very good bowling! Make sure you clean and resurface this ball every 50+ games or so. It absorbs oil like no other!!!
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
So I have noticed. Won't be able to resurface it until next May due to USBC rules in my League.
TankerGodDX 4 years ago
Ebonitemaster,, what would you call an extremely high rev rate ??
Because you rev it up well,, but extremely high ?
jimmsr 4 years ago
I would say anyone who can put 450+ rpm on a bowling ball traveling at a speed of at least 16 Mph!
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
I just bought one!! I can't wait to get it in the mail =) oh yea!!
JustLeaveBlank 4 years ago
Now that I think about it, maybe you just suck with plastic balls. Nothing to be ashamed of.
24okay 4 years ago
Plastic balls do not suck for spare conversions! I have no idea why the fuck anyone would argue and say plastic balls suck for spares. All the pros use plastic balls to pick up their spares, as do I. Trust me, if you are a high rev bowler, the best thing for you is a plastic ball for spares!!!
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
Yeah, that's what I use. Especially with oily floors, it works very well.
24okay 4 years ago
All I know is I am most Def going to be buying this ball. That thing is wicked and from what I see, one of the most sought out balls out there.
24okay 4 years ago
If you can't pick up a single pin with this ball then you should leave this sport. My question was intended for questioning the travel this ball has. Since noone really responded, I decided to buy it and try it myself. I will recieve it weds. Oh, one more thing.... polyester/plastic balls suck...even for pick up. I wou;d atleast go with reactive resin.
TankerGodDX 4 years ago
Well, when missing my targets become a habit, I will look into reactive resin. So if this ball truly sucks, what would you recommend? I was thinking No Mercy, or this black widow pearl (Strange how the 15lbs ball has more curve than the 16lbs). Maybe a Road Hawg. I won't argue with you, because I am still new to this sport and I am not going to pretend I know what the hell I am talking about.
24okay 4 years ago
1 question..... why didn't he show us a pick up with that same ball? I bet the 10 pin is hell to pick up with it and this video could have made a better scor by me by doing so. Too bad, for all I know, he guttered after the 9 pins were down.
TankerGodDX 4 years ago
Nobody really uses their striker to pick up balls. That is what those plastic/polyester balls are for. They shoot more straight. My first ball is a polyester ball. It shoots very straight. I rarely miss with that thing. But these balls with good spin, aren't really used for a single pin. That is like complaining that nobody uses plastic spare ball grabbers for strikes. Know what I mean?
24okay 4 years ago
yea i cant bowl without a spare ball...i cant bowl straight and i hook it so much my black widow would never make it to the 10 pin
parkerhoda5 3 years ago
1 Question, why didn't he show us a pick up with that same ball? I bet the 10 pin is hell to pick up with it.
TankerGodDX 4 years ago
that 4 10 split conversion at 1:03 was impressive two lanes down from you...its my favorite split cause im a lefty
nextbmxstar 4 years ago
If you watch the video closely you can see the ball go into the gutter and pop back out to convert the split. lol It was an accident, but funny I caught it on tape.
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
Nice spin :)
jessiguullig 4 years ago
not too tough to bowl with such nice lane conditions
miketraz44 4 years ago
What are you talkin aBOOT? lol
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
That's a bad ass ball the break in it is insane!! I think the song is Just Barely Breathing by Killswitch Engage.
sk8erkidstack 4 years ago
nice bowling= ]
whats ur average??
sf331 4 years ago
cool.. i'm getting this ball friday- what's the name of the song?
cj81690 4 years ago
You can't hit the same mark twice, your all over the place. Invest in some lessons.
Pate08 4 years ago
A great lesson to any bowler is being able to play multiple lines you dumb fuck! Wow are you a hater. Probably because your so young and arrogant! Did mommy and daddy not love you enough? I test out the bowling balls i have during practice to see what kind of angles i can get away with. Go fuck yourself and have a nice day! =)
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
LOL, nice!
Bucnboltfan 4 years ago
Burn!
parkerhoda5 3 years ago
Is there someone who knows the name of the group and/or song in what in the ending part of the chorus always say "...black widow" and a whisper repeats "(black widow)". The vocalist's voice seems a little like the Accept or AC/DC vocalists.
Prodicochea 4 years ago
1:00 lane 8, nice 4-10 pick up :).
This ball isn't bad, but I still prefer other less reactive balls.
VennomX 4 years ago
i like your shot. i'm now going to mimic it when my black widow comes in. thx
pwntzilla 4 years ago
im "skeptical" about the whole "44 foot oil pattern" cause i bowled on the shark pattern tonight and that is a 44 foot PBA shot and i had very little backend.. and i use an infinite one that has alot of backend on shorter patterns like the viper (37 feet) im not calling you a liar or anyhting like that though
DriverX15X 4 years ago
Unless.... Unless the pattern your on in this video is a typical house shot thats just longer.. if thats the case its believible cause theres alot of dry outside
DriverX15X 4 years ago
You should know that the sharkpattern got wet board near the gutters, while a typical houseshot got dryboards there. ;)
Yiib 4 years ago
Never said it was the shark pattern. And yes I practice on PBA oil patterns quite often. I know what they are like. This was a modified heavy oil house shot.
EboniteMaster 4 years ago
oh ok.. and i just came back a watched this vid and looked at my comment and i was like.. "did i really say that.. why the hell did i say that" i think i was drunk that night or something cause obviously ur not getting alot of back end.. because ur playing slow and deep inside which i how i played the shark
DriverX15X 4 years ago
or atleast on most shots ur inside like i was.. ur not outside 10 much in this vid which is how i was on the shark.. stood about 30 and was never outside 12 unless i screwed up lol
DriverX15X 4 years ago
great bowling. the ball reacts well
u should post a video of a complete game not just the first ball.
imaballerbaby3 4 years ago
Good video! I'm an inside player also, and I had one of these as well. Local center flooded the house shot, so I had to get something stronger, but this ball is superb overall. Mine was drilled pin over at 5 inches from PAP, MB at 3 inches from PAP. I'm a strong tweener, hitting 15th board at arrows, hitting 5th board at breakpoint. I'm eventually drilling another for a stronger midlane roll soon. Two thumbs up!
ExitThirteen 4 years ago
Some great shots. the ball seems really versatile. especially when you were taking just one step. really nice. the song is good too. Back when killswitch still had a lot of creativity in them. Anyway, nice bowling, ball looks great.
Vine666 5 years ago
This ball is crap, stay far far away. Three peeps I know had this ball lose incedible reaction and hitting power within a few months of using it and they all ave.210+ stay away from this ball, it is utter crap.
KamilDowonna 5 years ago
hahaha Own3d!!!!
EboniteMaster 5 years ago
I really like your style of bowling.
Nice form, and good accuracy.
I personally have this ball, and love it. Although, I'm an inside bowler and don't like a ton of revs to it. Makes getting 10 pins hard, but splits easy. =P
cjk123 5 years ago
i through the same line as you. i just bought the widow a used it for the 1st time last night. through a 743 series out of the box. its a fucking monster. a little hard to controll but one you find your mak watch out.
gowylde 5 years ago
I think you might hit more strikes..if you choose "One" spot, your all over the floor.
mosis1999988 5 years ago
Did you read the description of the video at all? What kind of fucktard are you??? This is a sunday morning practice session. In order to become a really good bowler you must be able to adapt to the lane conditions. On this oil pattern I was experimenting with different lines. Have fun throwing your "house" line on a PBA oil pattern you dumb fuck!
EboniteMaster 5 years ago
my brother fucking ownz n0013z in bowling lol
IAscendancYI 5 years ago
Nice videos man. I recently got into bowling and got a question. As a cranker is it optimum to have your thumb fit all the way in? I'm asking this is because the guy who drilled my ball said it's fine to just have the tip just inside...my buds think he's just too lazy to re-drill it.
blahblahblah666999 5 years ago
You thumb should always be fully inserted into the ball, you should also check to make sure that it can stay on your hand while keeping your hand completely relaxed inside the ball with minimal wrist cupping.
madrox4132 5 years ago
O_o backend so pretty cool
boatkung 5 years ago
I currently use the ebonite big time and i have had it for over a year and a half and it doesnt seem to be getting the carry it use to. How does the black widow compare to the big time?
llittled 5 years ago
the black widow has more backend more angular to the pocket just nice overall
itshimkevinkim 5 years ago
That ball has a nice backend to it :P
Nod7667 5 years ago
hook balls are awesome. they always look like they are gonna go down the gutter, the they move back into the middle
slayermetaled 5 years ago
Wow, that is one sick ball dude!! I'm assuming you stick with your Ebonite ball for light oil surfaces? I definitely gotta look into investing in one of those!
thunderstruck665 5 years ago
I picked one up too, very nice hook to em : )
DarkS1d3 5 years ago
I have a Black Widow..they're pretty extreme. The hook on them is AMAZING.
AstralaKhadgar 5 years ago