i have mine for like three years now and since i live in nyc its rare that snow keep me back but this year its was on several occasion tempted me to use it.... so yesterday i install them for the first time and forgot how to.... finally go it on, i then drove home with it like 8 miles on the pavement because it was going to get snow today,I am wondering loudly is there any upgrade on this design?
@Bajamug well, I take it you never heard of a HMMWV with CTIS either? I couldn't find a CTIS demo, but a Tireboss demo works well:
/watch?v=AYFneL9oigE
/watch?v=XsopVBSheu8
If you want to argue that tire pressure does not change the actual coefficient of friction of the materials, you are correct there, but there is much more to traction than that.
If you want to learn about traction talk to, well, ANYONE, who off-roads, drag races, road races, or does any professional driving.
@l337pwnage I do not need to give you a thought out reply giving my point, YOU can simply type "Does lowering tire pressure create traction in snow?" And you'll be given 318,000 results, all of which in the first 10 pages I thoroughly searched explaining why lowering tire pressure for extra traction in snow does not work.
You're welcome to school yourself, then come back with some kind of witty reply claiming to be smarter than thousands of minds who don't agree with you.
@Bajamug O, I know most people don't agree with me. Most people can't even pay their own house off, lol, so I don't worry about what "most people" do.
The fact is I know tire pressure has a HUGE impact on traction on all surfaces. Have fun spinning in the snow.
Google can be your friend, but only if you know how to read critically. And their is no substitute for experience. Sign up at a local ice race in the rubber tire class. Try different pressures, see what happens.
@Bajamug lol, I just did a google and yes they give mixed results. But primarily people are asking if they should run lower tire pressure all winter, lol. If you do that, your a fucking retard. you run normal pressure that you need for safe highway driving. Only a retard would run around the highway on 15 PSI.
You would only lower your pressure after you get stuck and you have no other options. Then once you're clear, pump them back up.
Either way, none of the first 3 were very trustworthy.
@Bajamug Two sites were "car" (lol) sites and one was yahoo answers, which has about a 25% chance of being correct on anything.
Most of those car sites are for old and barely literate people who do not know anything about cars, so they give them the easy, simple, and most legally safe answers.
Its like asking a car salesman about cars, they don't know anything, they only know the selling points that the factory gives them.
@Bajamug I should also point out that the very FIRST page google found agreed with me, but essentially told people not to do it for reason I previously specified, which is you cannot drive at high speeds safely like that.
And most people do not carry an air compressor with them, I do on the occasions that I plan on changing my tire pressures.
My job requires me to get to work no matter what [Emergency Services]. My issue is more about getting to my destination in the first place more than how quickly it allows me to drive.
If these work as intended, even if it takes me "x" amount of time longer, they would be worth it. Definitely going to give these a try!
Thanks, mmz77, for letting me know that the part that didn't work was being able to drive faster than they are rated for. As long as they work well when used properly, I'm pretty cool with that. With that in mind, I think I'll give them a try.
Actually, you can install when stuck. By draping the Snobootz over the top and placing the leading edge of the boot just at the contact patch, you can spin the wheels and the boot will get sucked under the tire. It's a little more difficult that way, but it can be done.
Yes, snow tires definitely allow you to go faster. However, unless you have studded snow tires that tear up the pavement, snow tires don't have nearly the traction on ice that Snobootz have. With Snobootz, you can save the money and hassle of having an extra set of winter tires and you can quickly install the snow and ice traction exactly when you need it.
i have mine for like three years now and since i live in nyc its rare that snow keep me back but this year its was on several occasion tempted me to use it.... so yesterday i install them for the first time and forgot how to.... finally go it on, i then drove home with it like 8 miles on the pavement because it was going to get snow today,I am wondering loudly is there any upgrade on this design?
claudia1love 1 year ago
1-not for offroad= for paved roads and really not needing them
2-30mph= if your going that slow why need them?
3-drive gently= If your being so careful to keep this thing on i'm sure you don't need it then.
4-avoid spinning= thought that was what the damn thing was for
k thanks.
Fringe13 1 year ago
or just drop your tire pressure by 15 PSI and achieve the same level of traction, lol.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@l337pwnage
Lowering tire pressure with car tires doesn't increase traction, that's a myth.
Bajamug 1 year ago
@Bajamug well, I take it you never heard of a HMMWV with CTIS either? I couldn't find a CTIS demo, but a Tireboss demo works well:
/watch?v=AYFneL9oigE
/watch?v=XsopVBSheu8
If you want to argue that tire pressure does not change the actual coefficient of friction of the materials, you are correct there, but there is much more to traction than that.
If you want to learn about traction talk to, well, ANYONE, who off-roads, drag races, road races, or does any professional driving.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@l337pwnage
Sorry, but you're wrong.
Bajamug 1 year ago
@Bajamug wow, persuasive, lol.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@l337pwnage I do not need to give you a thought out reply giving my point, YOU can simply type "Does lowering tire pressure create traction in snow?" And you'll be given 318,000 results, all of which in the first 10 pages I thoroughly searched explaining why lowering tire pressure for extra traction in snow does not work.
You're welcome to school yourself, then come back with some kind of witty reply claiming to be smarter than thousands of minds who don't agree with you.
Bajamug 1 year ago
@Bajamug O, I know most people don't agree with me. Most people can't even pay their own house off, lol, so I don't worry about what "most people" do.
The fact is I know tire pressure has a HUGE impact on traction on all surfaces. Have fun spinning in the snow.
Google can be your friend, but only if you know how to read critically. And their is no substitute for experience. Sign up at a local ice race in the rubber tire class. Try different pressures, see what happens.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@Bajamug lol, I just did a google and yes they give mixed results. But primarily people are asking if they should run lower tire pressure all winter, lol. If you do that, your a fucking retard. you run normal pressure that you need for safe highway driving. Only a retard would run around the highway on 15 PSI.
You would only lower your pressure after you get stuck and you have no other options. Then once you're clear, pump them back up.
Either way, none of the first 3 were very trustworthy.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@Bajamug Two sites were "car" (lol) sites and one was yahoo answers, which has about a 25% chance of being correct on anything.
Most of those car sites are for old and barely literate people who do not know anything about cars, so they give them the easy, simple, and most legally safe answers.
Its like asking a car salesman about cars, they don't know anything, they only know the selling points that the factory gives them.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@Bajamug I should also point out that the very FIRST page google found agreed with me, but essentially told people not to do it for reason I previously specified, which is you cannot drive at high speeds safely like that.
And most people do not carry an air compressor with them, I do on the occasions that I plan on changing my tire pressures.
Again, be a lemming, have fun with that.
l337pwnage 1 year ago
autosocks are better and far quicker to put on and take off
mulysport 1 year ago
My job requires me to get to work no matter what [Emergency Services]. My issue is more about getting to my destination in the first place more than how quickly it allows me to drive.
If these work as intended, even if it takes me "x" amount of time longer, they would be worth it. Definitely going to give these a try!
harsiese 2 years ago
is this worth investing?
koorboi 2 years ago
Thanks, mmz77, for letting me know that the part that didn't work was being able to drive faster than they are rated for. As long as they work well when used properly, I'm pretty cool with that. With that in mind, I think I'll give them a try.
frankhaynes1967 3 years ago
POS Doesn't Work.
mmz77 3 years ago
Actually, you can install when stuck. By draping the Snobootz over the top and placing the leading edge of the boot just at the contact patch, you can spin the wheels and the boot will get sucked under the tire. It's a little more difficult that way, but it can be done.
urethanesupply 3 years ago
Yes, snow tires definitely allow you to go faster. However, unless you have studded snow tires that tear up the pavement, snow tires don't have nearly the traction on ice that Snobootz have. With Snobootz, you can save the money and hassle of having an extra set of winter tires and you can quickly install the snow and ice traction exactly when you need it.
urethanesupply 3 years ago 2