Please watch my story "TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE" They hid my only evidence and lied about it then they made me "TAKE THE DEAL" or go to Prison for 9 + yrs. This is crazy stuff. They have given me 2 strikes and one more brush with the law of any kind will send me to "PRISON FOR LIFE"..... HELP MEEEEEEEE!
I have documents to PROVE my innocence but no one will even look at it. What is going on with this country???
A re-elect Obama event is planned in Washington DC for January 17th. Ana Kasparian and Jayar Jackson discuss the continuation of the re-elect Obama movement on The Young Turks.
"Expecting 2,000 people"? Don't think so. The best the "Occupy Anything" people could do, was to muster-up a few hundred unemployed rag-tags, (a number far less of the 10,000 that the permit allowed), to make fools out of themselves at the Capitol.
@bobbytiger well, maybe you should have got off your ass and helped them make a difference in the World instead of sitting on youtube trash talking them..
@bobbytiger so the actions of one guy is your whole argument against a movement of millions? very narrow minded, don;t you think? get off the net and go learn something about the World you live in... you won't regret it.
He's saying he doesn't like the term civil disobedience because he doesn't like how the opposition uses a term with negative connotations to describe protesters actions. These are actions which he considers quite healthy and thus thinks they would be better referred to with positive word. Good point but could've been expressed more clearly.
I never thought I would call these guys idiots but... IDIOTS! WTH! Civil Disobedience?! Negative Connotation? MLK? Gandhi? Henry David Thoreau? Educate yourselves.
The only people thinking they are shutdown are the ass hats being protested against. Because obviously they are afraid of being attacked by the protesters. Which has not happened. In fact the opposite. They sick the police on the protesters to have them violently attacked and harassed
Clearly talking this point to you is a waste of time. You fail to comprehend the freedom people are supposed to have but are having it taken away by force
I've read G,G & S, but not The Behaviour of Law. Thanks for the tip.
Well, the problem is the government not only initiates a lot of force, her actions are also the cause for violence that is not her own. Look at the drug wars, for example. I think there are 2 main motivations for violence. Greed and lust for power. I also think that a very small part of people are violent. Most people can be caring and helpful, provided they grow up in a more nurturing environment.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH I think that the American gov't has largely caused the "drug wars" through its laws and policies. There are, however, more motivations for violence. Take water rights for example. To this day in Afghanistan people will kill each other over who's goats get to drink from what stream because it is a perceived livelihood. People without will kill those with. You may want to read On Killing (Grossman) its an interesting read on people and their willingness to kill.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "But I think, with all the technology at our disposal, we could make it work in the near future." This may be true, something like Roddenberry's world, where resource is no longer the main concern and therefore people are free to pursue other endeavors. There is enough food produced in the world today to feed every mouth but our hording nature disallows us to actually feed them...Tech is good but our nature must be overcome first, I think.
I think anarcho-socialism is the way to solve this, trough abolishing the monetary system and creating abundance, accessible to all (eradicating greed) and getting rid of hierarchy, making sure no one is enabled to grasp significant power. Both of these will take a lot of responsibility of humans in order to preserve this system, because it isn't forced from the top down, but build from the bottom up. That means people are responsible for not letting other seize power etc.
I consider greed an act of will, not an emotion. A character trait formed. Even if you consider it an emotion, do you give in to all emotions without thought? Are you basically a toddler that acts on impulse in every situation? No, you are not. Sensibility forms a balance with your emotions.
Perhaps eradiciting is poor choice of words. Disarming is better. Like power, we can disarm greed, make it useless to the people wanting to exert it by not cooperating.
I think further exchange is pointless, as I'm not going to convince you anytime soon.
I'm not going to advise you to read anything or such, but do this. You don't defend the state because it's illegitimate. Ask yourself: if you can't defend the legitimacy of property rights, are they worth defending at all?
A very well organized , highly professional OCCUPY event is planned for Washingon DC on my granddaughter birthday. She will be sweet 16. There will be no civil disobedience at her birthday party. It will be harmonious, positive and productive. No bad vibes at this birthday party. I will tell her about this very important event happening on her birthday though, and give her the opportunity to tell me what she thinks about it. Happy times, guys.
It makes me PROUD that Americans are FINALLY standing up, and letting our voices be heard about all the cronie capitalism, and corruption of BOTH of our politcal parties! This NEEDS to be heard, and we NEED to set a clear message this November 4th.Throw those BUMS OUT in Washington!
To JR: Civil Disobedience is NOT the act of simply being upset about and talking about things w/e. Civil Disobedience is the act of breaking the rules in a CIVIL matter as a form of protest. When African Americans staged sit-ins at restaurants that were "white-only" they were exorcising civil disobedience. They broke the rules that were unfair in a peaceful way to protest them. This protest is not civil disobedience, it's civil obedient protest.
big waste o time.....Armageddon cometh pepes; better ask JW's for info and seek Jah's help, ti's all going to waste soon, very soon (in geologic terms QUIckLY!)
@IgnacioAgramonte don't know if you realize this but America is not the world, so its unlikely the end of the world will come if he is not the president.
The only way to get a real response from Congress is to take away their own paycheck, which will entirely screw up their predetermined appropriations, and have the people boycott this years Tax Returns until Congress starts representing the people again.
Occupyers if you want to shave America stop voting Repubican or Tea Party and yoy will see a big improvement with our Goverment our votes are the most powerful thing we the 99% have and how we have the internet to make things happen .
@sonofatiger Funny you say that voting is the most powerful thing we have, because our "elections" are a total farce. If you think the Republicans are the only problem, you're very naive.
@SKATEyD3STROY Crony capitalism is the product of too much market power over the governmental affairs of a country. It is precisely the product of capitalism. Capitalism is an inherently corruptible phenomenon.
@jimmycrackedcorn226 If the government had no power or authority to give out favors, subsidies, bailouts to market powers then we wouldn't have this problem.. Crony capitalism is created when big government and big business combine to fuck the people, If businesses actually had to compete for business rather than government favors things would be better off..
@jimmycrackedcorn226 Government is corruptible, capitalism is just the lack of government control in the economy. If the government didn't have the power to interfere in with the market there would be no corruption, and therefore no crony capitalism.
@Houshalter LMAO! So its the policians going to the corporations and bribing them with millions of dollars. See i thought it was the other way around. Your view of our country is ass backwards.
@SKATEyD3STROY Do you have a strong argument to sway me to believe that pure capitalism is better than crony capitalism? Can you show me a model in which pure capitalism is even feasible? Do you support a type of capitalism different from pure or crony capitalism? Can you support that idea? Right now, I don't see capitalism in any form as a helpful to society.
@kenzybob What do you suggest as an alternative? A government monopoly or the violence of the state forcibly taking property? What system lets people decide what they want to buy besides capitalism?
@Mabuza14 so true every form of consumerism is crony Socialism Communism Capitalism all crony they all have the same thing in common Capital Vs Labor.
Capitalism is crony from the very premise because property rights have no philosophical grounds whatsoever. Much like legitimacy of the government itself.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH I say someone's property is one's body and the fruits of their labor, as no one else can own these things without exerting some form of force, so how does this make capitalism crony?..
Excluding people from a part of the Earth and denying them access to resources is force as well. Capitalism is founded on force. The "property rights" and "fruits of your labour" are nice terms to try and cover up the fact that your entire system is build on coercion and force.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH lol since I don't have access to certain resources is someone using force against me? and how do you suggest we give everyone acces to these resources? Violence of the state? Force them to share? Or a system where willing parties choose to trade money for goods.. Wait thats capitalism!
@SKATEyD3STROY no. monetary trading system is not the same as capitalism. the only other option in your scenario if you dont have capitalism you just barter with beads. Thats just wrong.
Yes. Ignoring home ownership 5% of the people on this planet own virtually all the remaining land. You are at the mercy of these people, since you need land to survive, be it for resources or living space. You are an economic slave and landless peasant. They seized this land by force or bought it from someone who seized it by force. Capitalism is slavery build on force.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH and if we did not have capitalism you do not think these same people would own the same land? Like you said they used force to get the land, so what system stops force?
What are you talking about? Capitalism can only survive by violence. Most of the time, by the state. From the Industrial Age until today, the only thing standing between the people and overthrowing capitalists is the state! Whether they do it by blunt force against unions or pampering people by regulation and minimum wages. If the state is gone, capitalism falls. Look at history!
So answer me? What gives you the right to claim land?
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH you exclude people from a part of the earth by pissing on it. it's a very natural process and when someone crosses your boundary of piss you kick their asses. kinda the definition of a country.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Yep. Built on the I have the bigger weapons, so you WILL do what I say. Don't have to like it. Don't have to agree. Just bob your heads and fake it, or die.
Like Rousseau said "the fruits of the Earth belong to everyone and the Earth itself to noone". If you wish to own part of the Earth, it's up to you to prove legitimacy. I once was a libertarian. As soon as someone can demonstrate the legitimacy of property, I'll happily be one again (well, no I'd be anarcho-capitalist then, since I think the state has no legitimacy either). Until then, I consider capitalism as immoral and illegitimate as the state.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH What is the alternative? Every economic system has property rights. Even in communism the state exercised ownership over all of the resources. If you don't have some system of property rights then there is no fair way to settle disputes over the use of resources when there is conflict.
There is no state in communism. You are proably thinking of Leninism or Stalinism or Maoism. Why is it that people always go USSR on others when they mention something bad about capitalism. I'm not here to advocate Stalinism or any kind of statism. The state is as illegitimate as capitalism.
I'm not saying property rights can't be pragmatical. I think even the State can be pragmatical in some cases. But it doesn't change that they are immoral and illegitimate.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH How is it immoral? There is no possible way to fairly settle conflicts over the use of scarce resources if you don't have some system of property rights. Therefore all the alternatives are immoral as well, or at least unfair if you don't consider that immoral.
That is why I was responding to SKATEyD3STROY. It's ridiculous to claim capitalism isn't crony, or isn't build on force. If there is a moral highground, it sure as hell is't capitalism.
First of all, the fact that resources really don't belong to anyone would solve a lot of problems. Secondly, most other problems that you imagine probably wouldn't exist outside capitalism or statism and the monetary system.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH What is your argument? What is your alternative to capitalism? I own my body, whether you, the state, or anyone else says I do or don't. I also own anything created by my labor, in a way it is a part of me because I created it, and again, I own this because it is a part of me regardless of anyone else recognizing that.
What gives you the right to deny other people access to parts of the same Earth they walk on? If you can defend that, you may be able to defend capitalism.
But if you can't even defend property rights, if you can't even defend a prerequisite or premise of a system, then you really don't have a case.
How can you possibly claim that denying people access to land they need to survive is not forceful?
If you are able t defend property rights of resources and land, we can argue about the 'fruits of your labour' (which is another nice term capitalists invented to pamper you into thinking you are not a slave).
Imagine I walk into your house and steal your tv, then improve it and sell it. Is the profit I make of that the 'fruit of my labour' and am I entitled to it? Of course not, the tv wasn't mine to improve and sell in the first place. That profit is build on force.
I don't need to defend the default position. If you want property rights, it's up to you to prove legitimacy. You apply the same logic to the state, try applying it to yourself. That's how I became an anarcho-socialist.
Our problem with government is lack of legitimacy. I applied the very same thing to property rights (specifically land ownership). I've told you why it is forceful, it's up to you to defend legitimacy (or find it to begin with).
this is what needs to happen i think the movement needs to evolve DC is a good place i know allot of tea party members and they we're asking why wall street ? why not DC ? well now it has moved to DC.... remember its about "We The People" in the end and money has been dictating law for to long.
@CazyDayz "and money has been dictating law for to long." That's why it was started at Wall Street. People shouldn't just Occupy DC, they should Occupy everywhere they can. Each and every city, large and small.
get onboard this. stop sitting around on youtube being fooled by the ron paul hoax. HE WILL NOT HELP YOU. don't wait for him to start talking about "CHANGE" before u wake up
@deadsnowman83 no she means if she didn't have a job, she would go as a citizen, not as a reporter, because remember she "wouldn't have a job" so she doesn't have a film crew to send
Protesting is not enough to take back the money that is being robbed from you. You can not stop the gravy train by holding signs. Though, I respect your right to do it, I think we need to come together, across party lines, and storm Congressional Hall until the government is put back into its proper place, drawing a line between government and business, just like government and religion.
Said part is and this is just my take on it I like the Occupy movement I understand you have to have a peaceful protest but in the end I'm not too sure peaceful will do anything about anything they want to get done. When already government's are ran by the same system there protesting against I just don't see anything happening stuff starts to happen when people get pissed off like the people in Greece Civil Disobedience of the People BY The PEOPLE!!!!
The problem with using the phrase "Civil Disobedience" is that is links it with other movements that have openly opposed the law with the goal of showing that the law is unjust. The most obvious example in my mind would be the Civil Rights Movement. The fact is this protest isn't like that and though that is what you may aspire to be it is ignorant to pretend and diminish by comparison that struggle.
Occupy needs more then just protests. They need to analyse the capitalist system and oppose it. TYT thinks that capitalism can be saved but they are wrong. Capitalism cannot be made human. The social democrats ( used to be very moderate socialists ) tried it and all capitalists fled to India and China. They fired our workers and bought cheap Chinese workers. Because of that the social democrats turned right-wing in a desperate attempt to get the capitalists back to Europe. They never came back!
Occupying a place without a permit like they did in Zucotti Park is civil disobedience. Refusing to leave and getting pepper sprayed by cops is civil disobedience. This protest is seeking a permit. So it's not. It's political activism. Which isn't to say that it's better or worse. But it is what it is.
I have written to my Los Angeles city councilman Richard Alarcon, Los Angeles County board of supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, and State Assemblymember Felipe Fuentes and State Senator Alex Padilla who fellow alumni of San Fernando Senior High School but different years, all who are all Democrats and their lack of replies give impressions they only care about staying in office to acquire personal wealth, power, and prestige.
I wrote Congressman Berman along with other California Democrats Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi and Congresswoman Jane Harman with US Senators Boxer (D-CA) and Feinstein (D-CA) including US President candidates Hilary Clinton (D-NY) especially Barack "Barry" Hussein Obama II (D-IL) to hopefully investigate employment practices allowed by Rob Walton of Walmart Stores Inc. None of them proved that they care.
I wrote my Congressman Howard Berman and US Senators Boxer and Feinstein who did not care to investigate Rob Walton of Walmart Stores Inc for their employment practices.
If Ana didn't have a job she'd be too broke to be able to afford a trip to that occupy movement, and if she did then she would've have time...
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Please watch my story "TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE" They hid my only evidence and lied about it then they made me "TAKE THE DEAL" or go to Prison for 9 + yrs. This is crazy stuff. They have given me 2 strikes and one more brush with the law of any kind will send me to "PRISON FOR LIFE"..... HELP MEEEEEEEE!
I have documents to PROVE my innocence but no one will even look at it. What is going on with this country???
joanarc1111 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 13, 2012
Police should fight defending america and the constitution WITH THE PEOPLE.
TheTuboholic 1 month ago
THEY THREW SMOKE BOMBS OVER THE FENCE...
willsbanana 1 month ago
A re-elect Obama event is planned in Washington DC for January 17th. Ana Kasparian and Jayar Jackson discuss the continuation of the re-elect Obama movement on The Young Turks.
mocatz187 1 month ago
"Expecting 2,000 people"? Don't think so. The best the "Occupy Anything" people could do, was to muster-up a few hundred unemployed rag-tags, (a number far less of the 10,000 that the permit allowed), to make fools out of themselves at the Capitol.
bobbytiger 1 month ago
@bobbytiger well, maybe you should have got off your ass and helped them make a difference in the World instead of sitting on youtube trash talking them..
therevepigee 1 month ago
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Next time, maybe I will. Like taking a shit on a police car, as was done by one of the Occupy LA losers.
bobbytiger 1 month ago
@bobbytiger so the actions of one guy is your whole argument against a movement of millions? very narrow minded, don;t you think? get off the net and go learn something about the World you live in... you won't regret it.
therevepigee 1 month ago
@bobbytiger keep shit talking on YOUTUBE you loser rich boy
MyDearRomeo35 1 month ago
Civil disobedience with permission..yeah like free speech zone..riiight!!!
spider879 1 month ago
Are those free buses coming to Minnesota
KatoKid85 1 month ago
Demand tax reform. Demand that everyone pay %15 tax. No exceptions, no write offs.
Do something creative, don't be dependent on your government.
Ask what you can do for your country, not what can your country do for you.
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Anonymous is at my local library this second and im in the library.. they are wearing there masks!!!! :O
witeksworld 1 month ago
He's saying he doesn't like the term civil disobedience because he doesn't like how the opposition uses a term with negative connotations to describe protesters actions. These are actions which he considers quite healthy and thus thinks they would be better referred to with positive word. Good point but could've been expressed more clearly.
aswingruber 1 month ago
In high def it look like J has a fake nose.
Didn't they have a million man and a million mom march in DC? Why the hell can't we get a million occupy march and takeover?
TheUSMetalhead 1 month ago
I never thought I would call these guys idiots but... IDIOTS! WTH! Civil Disobedience?! Negative Connotation? MLK? Gandhi? Henry David Thoreau? Educate yourselves.
FamilyRoyalty 1 month ago
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Caturdayz 1 month ago
I just saw the most sickening anti-union commercial ad, played right before this segment? Gotta go back and find that...WTF?
chigong980 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 13, 2012
If the term "civil disobedience" has negative connotations to you then you need to educate yourself and read what MLK and Gandhi wrote.
rockhsalt 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 13, 2012
@rockhsalt Amen. I came here to comment the same thing. Read MLK. Read Ghandi. Read Henry David Thoreau, ffs!
FamilyRoyalty 1 month ago
WHAT AN IDIOT! CIVIL... DISOBEDIENCE! what else do you want>? what cause it sounds mean? lol get real.
Hafazeh 1 month ago
I hope I am not the only person thinking. That getting a permit to protest, is a horrible disfigurement of freedom =(
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@WildBuck007 you can protest all you want on your own property. You generally have to get permission before you can do it on someone elses.
Houshalter 1 month ago
@Houshalter Taxpayers own the capital building.
TheUSMetalhead 1 month ago
@TheUSMetalhead 47% of Americans would not be entitled to be there, if that mattered.
ladylordess 1 month ago
@Houshalter
Public property is open to the public. You shouldn't have to beg permission to protest against those who give out the permits.
That is neither freedom nor logical.
WildBuck007 1 month ago 2
@WildBuck007 whats the point of building parks and roads in the first place if they can just get shut down at any time by a group of protesters?
Houshalter 1 month ago
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Because they are not shut down
The only people thinking they are shutdown are the ass hats being protested against. Because obviously they are afraid of being attacked by the protesters. Which has not happened. In fact the opposite. They sick the police on the protesters to have them violently attacked and harassed
Clearly talking this point to you is a waste of time. You fail to comprehend the freedom people are supposed to have but are having it taken away by force
WildBuck007 1 month ago
YES! Some are actually Occupying Capiol Hill. I've been saying it for the last two months.
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I've read G,G & S, but not The Behaviour of Law. Thanks for the tip.
Well, the problem is the government not only initiates a lot of force, her actions are also the cause for violence that is not her own. Look at the drug wars, for example. I think there are 2 main motivations for violence. Greed and lust for power. I also think that a very small part of people are violent. Most people can be caring and helpful, provided they grow up in a more nurturing environment.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH I think that the American gov't has largely caused the "drug wars" through its laws and policies. There are, however, more motivations for violence. Take water rights for example. To this day in Afghanistan people will kill each other over who's goats get to drink from what stream because it is a perceived livelihood. People without will kill those with. You may want to read On Killing (Grossman) its an interesting read on people and their willingness to kill.
savageecho 1 month ago
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But I think, with all the technology at our disposal, we could make it work in the near future.
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@SSTTEEAALLTTHH "But I think, with all the technology at our disposal, we could make it work in the near future." This may be true, something like Roddenberry's world, where resource is no longer the main concern and therefore people are free to pursue other endeavors. There is enough food produced in the world today to feed every mouth but our hording nature disallows us to actually feed them...Tech is good but our nature must be overcome first, I think.
savageecho 1 month ago
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I think anarcho-socialism is the way to solve this, trough abolishing the monetary system and creating abundance, accessible to all (eradicating greed) and getting rid of hierarchy, making sure no one is enabled to grasp significant power. Both of these will take a lot of responsibility of humans in order to preserve this system, because it isn't forced from the top down, but build from the bottom up. That means people are responsible for not letting other seize power etc.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Eradicating greed? You really think you can eliminate a human emotion? Greed will always exist..
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
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I consider greed an act of will, not an emotion. A character trait formed. Even if you consider it an emotion, do you give in to all emotions without thought? Are you basically a toddler that acts on impulse in every situation? No, you are not. Sensibility forms a balance with your emotions.
Perhaps eradiciting is poor choice of words. Disarming is better. Like power, we can disarm greed, make it useless to the people wanting to exert it by not cooperating.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
I think further exchange is pointless, as I'm not going to convince you anytime soon.
I'm not going to advise you to read anything or such, but do this. You don't defend the state because it's illegitimate. Ask yourself: if you can't defend the legitimacy of property rights, are they worth defending at all?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
Because defending something illegitimate with actions (not words) has a name: initiating force.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY But you can make a situation that makes greed not worth going for.
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SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
Ana looks beautiful
spacenoise5 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 13, 2012
Ana looks much hotter than usual in this vid...
Oh, the occupy thing. Yeah, it should have started at Congress, not Wall Street.
savageecho 1 month ago
Occupy your Precinct... if enough people did that, we could change a lot in this world.
etzel33 1 month ago in playlist The Young Turks Show January 13, 2012
"Civil Grievance"
Ronin1914 1 month ago
People should not be afraid of the governments, governments should be afraid of their people.
( I <3 V for Vendetta )
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governments should be their people.
Muffinfordinner 1 month ago
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I like this one:"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "
-Thomas Jefferson
whatsgoingon07 4 days ago
Damn, classes start the 19th otherwise I would be all over that :(.
ShiranuFC 1 month ago
she reminds me of arya in the eragon inheritance seires
shout out if ya hear me :D
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anna is a babe
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the 60's all over...LUVIN IT!!!
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1988scottcarey 1 month ago
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What's the point of this 'civil obedience' you speak of?
I'm sorry, but I honestly think you don't know what any of these words mean or what the point of civil disobedience is.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@1988scottcarey ...?
sancombru 1 month ago
American tourism must be up since September 17 2011, I guarantee!
1988scottcarey 1 month ago 14
The media reporting on the occupy protests only makes people want to occupy congress even in countries like canada. lol
1988scottcarey 1 month ago
January 17th will mark the day of hundreds of people getting arrested and peppersprayed
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Jayar is spot on the money.
It's not (necessarily) an act of civil disobedience.
It's the First Amendment & the reason the American Revolution happened:
"the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".
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A very well organized , highly professional OCCUPY event is planned for Washingon DC on my granddaughter birthday. She will be sweet 16. There will be no civil disobedience at her birthday party. It will be harmonious, positive and productive. No bad vibes at this birthday party. I will tell her about this very important event happening on her birthday though, and give her the opportunity to tell me what she thinks about it. Happy times, guys.
Stay positive. Stay cool.
1Makyo 1 month ago
"civil disobedance" is like "terrorist" and "racist"..its so overused it doesnt even have a meaning any more
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It makes me PROUD that Americans are FINALLY standing up, and letting our voices be heard about all the cronie capitalism, and corruption of BOTH of our politcal parties! This NEEDS to be heard, and we NEED to set a clear message this November 4th.Throw those BUMS OUT in Washington!
Loakum 1 month ago
To JR: Civil Disobedience is NOT the act of simply being upset about and talking about things w/e. Civil Disobedience is the act of breaking the rules in a CIVIL matter as a form of protest. When African Americans staged sit-ins at restaurants that were "white-only" they were exorcising civil disobedience. They broke the rules that were unfair in a peaceful way to protest them. This protest is not civil disobedience, it's civil obedient protest.
kenzybob 1 month ago
lose the bun ana theres nothing to hold onto!
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jabraun00 1 month ago
I bet more than 2000 show up.
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WeThePeopleVStheNWO 1 month ago
ana = amazing
symnzXx 1 month ago
Occupy Wall Street or the Tea Party,either one will turn into another Kent State.
philosophicalreason 1 month ago
Organized loitering > civil disobedience
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big waste o time.....Armageddon cometh pepes; better ask JW's for info and seek Jah's help, ti's all going to waste soon, very soon (in geologic terms QUIckLY!)
rosskstar 1 month ago
END THE FED!!!
IgnacioAgramonte 1 month ago
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT OR THE WORLD WILL END.
IgnacioAgramonte 1 month ago
@IgnacioAgramonte I'd prefer a president who didn't make me feel like a secondary citizen because I'm not Christian.
BrandonC3 1 month ago
@IgnacioAgramonte don't know if you realize this but America is not the world, so its unlikely the end of the world will come if he is not the president.
Umedark 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The only way to get a real response from Congress is to take away their own paycheck, which will entirely screw up their predetermined appropriations, and have the people boycott this years Tax Returns until Congress starts representing the people again.
crimsonsamuraiftw 1 month ago
Protesting Congress... yeah, I totally see that working out well.
WolfsStorm 1 month ago
Occupyers if you want to shave America stop voting Repubican or Tea Party and yoy will see a big improvement with our Goverment our votes are the most powerful thing we the 99% have and how we have the internet to make things happen .
sonofatiger 1 month ago
@sonofatiger
Yeah, more powerful things will come from a more powerful & larger government who only gives us less freedoms & makes us more depedent on them.
but, if you want more of what the people want.
then capitalism gets more for the people than government
using your dollars to support what you want
does far more than voting ever can do to have asshole sociopaths represent you
your dollars have the power to buy what you wish or fund what you like
that is true democracy
GermansMustDie 1 month ago
@sonofatiger Funny you say that voting is the most powerful thing we have, because our "elections" are a total farce. If you think the Republicans are the only problem, you're very naive.
seriousguynogames3 1 month ago
RON PAUL ~American Hero~
Gyva02 1 month ago
OWS is coming back in the spring.
s0l1dsnake 1 month ago
Don't forget to bring rotton eggs and ripe tomatos.
dlucas90 1 month ago
They should protest NDAA bill that got passed. fuck cnn fuck fox
FANTOMTRON 1 month ago
Those opposing capitalism should realize we haven't had capitalism in decades, we now have crony capitalism.
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago 17
@SKATEyD3STROY crony capitalism is just a natural byproduct of capitalism.
jimmycrackedcorn226 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@jimmycrackedcorn226 No. Crony capitalism is a by product of Governments with to much power picking and choosing losers and selling favors.
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY Crony capitalism is the product of too much market power over the governmental affairs of a country. It is precisely the product of capitalism. Capitalism is an inherently corruptible phenomenon.
jimmycrackedcorn226 1 month ago
@jimmycrackedcorn226 If the government had no power or authority to give out favors, subsidies, bailouts to market powers then we wouldn't have this problem.. Crony capitalism is created when big government and big business combine to fuck the people, If businesses actually had to compete for business rather than government favors things would be better off..
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@jimmycrackedcorn226 Government is corruptible, capitalism is just the lack of government control in the economy. If the government didn't have the power to interfere in with the market there would be no corruption, and therefore no crony capitalism.
Houshalter 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@Houshalter LMAO! So its the policians going to the corporations and bribing them with millions of dollars. See i thought it was the other way around. Your view of our country is ass backwards.
DaBamBamMan 1 month ago
@DaBamBamMan do you know what a straw man fallacy is?
Houshalter 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY Do you have a strong argument to sway me to believe that pure capitalism is better than crony capitalism? Can you show me a model in which pure capitalism is even feasible? Do you support a type of capitalism different from pure or crony capitalism? Can you support that idea? Right now, I don't see capitalism in any form as a helpful to society.
kenzybob 1 month ago
@kenzybob What do you suggest as an alternative? A government monopoly or the violence of the state forcibly taking property? What system lets people decide what they want to buy besides capitalism?
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY Crony capitalism is capitalism you god damned paultard.
Fuctmentality 1 month ago
@Fuctmentality lol seriously im a paultard for believing in capitalism? What other system do you suggest??
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY I suggesty you learn what the term "capitalism" means. Seriously
Fuctmentality 3 weeks ago
@Fuctmentality The voluntary trade of goods for capital. Seriously.
SKATEyD3STROY 3 weeks ago
@SKATEyD3STROY Capitalism has always been crony.
Mabuza14 1 month ago
@Mabuza14 so true every form of consumerism is crony Socialism Communism Capitalism all crony they all have the same thing in common Capital Vs Labor.
CazyDayz 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
Capitalism is crony from the very premise because property rights have no philosophical grounds whatsoever. Much like legitimacy of the government itself.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH I say someone's property is one's body and the fruits of their labor, as no one else can own these things without exerting some form of force, so how does this make capitalism crony?..
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
Excluding people from a part of the Earth and denying them access to resources is force as well. Capitalism is founded on force. The "property rights" and "fruits of your labour" are nice terms to try and cover up the fact that your entire system is build on coercion and force.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH lol since I don't have access to certain resources is someone using force against me? and how do you suggest we give everyone acces to these resources? Violence of the state? Force them to share? Or a system where willing parties choose to trade money for goods.. Wait thats capitalism!
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY no. monetary trading system is not the same as capitalism. the only other option in your scenario if you dont have capitalism you just barter with beads. Thats just wrong.
DaBamBamMan 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
Yes. Ignoring home ownership 5% of the people on this planet own virtually all the remaining land. You are at the mercy of these people, since you need land to survive, be it for resources or living space. You are an economic slave and landless peasant. They seized this land by force or bought it from someone who seized it by force. Capitalism is slavery build on force.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH and if we did not have capitalism you do not think these same people would own the same land? Like you said they used force to get the land, so what system stops force?
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
What are you talking about? Capitalism can only survive by violence. Most of the time, by the state. From the Industrial Age until today, the only thing standing between the people and overthrowing capitalists is the state! Whether they do it by blunt force against unions or pampering people by regulation and minimum wages. If the state is gone, capitalism falls. Look at history!
So answer me? What gives you the right to claim land?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH you exclude people from a part of the earth by pissing on it. it's a very natural process and when someone crosses your boundary of piss you kick their asses. kinda the definition of a country.
rafelingd 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@rafelingd
Lol. Well at least you could argue that's the state of nature, I guess.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Yep. Built on the I have the bigger weapons, so you WILL do what I say. Don't have to like it. Don't have to agree. Just bob your heads and fake it, or die.
DaBamBamMan 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
Like Rousseau said "the fruits of the Earth belong to everyone and the Earth itself to noone". If you wish to own part of the Earth, it's up to you to prove legitimacy. I once was a libertarian. As soon as someone can demonstrate the legitimacy of property, I'll happily be one again (well, no I'd be anarcho-capitalist then, since I think the state has no legitimacy either). Until then, I consider capitalism as immoral and illegitimate as the state.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
That, mate, is why capitalism is crony.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH What is the alternative? Every economic system has property rights. Even in communism the state exercised ownership over all of the resources. If you don't have some system of property rights then there is no fair way to settle disputes over the use of resources when there is conflict.
Houshalter 1 month ago
@Houshalter
There is no state in communism. You are proably thinking of Leninism or Stalinism or Maoism. Why is it that people always go USSR on others when they mention something bad about capitalism. I'm not here to advocate Stalinism or any kind of statism. The state is as illegitimate as capitalism.
I'm not saying property rights can't be pragmatical. I think even the State can be pragmatical in some cases. But it doesn't change that they are immoral and illegitimate.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH How is it immoral? There is no possible way to fairly settle conflicts over the use of scarce resources if you don't have some system of property rights. Therefore all the alternatives are immoral as well, or at least unfair if you don't consider that immoral.
Houshalter 1 month ago
@Houshalter
That is why I was responding to SKATEyD3STROY. It's ridiculous to claim capitalism isn't crony, or isn't build on force. If there is a moral highground, it sure as hell is't capitalism.
First of all, the fact that resources really don't belong to anyone would solve a lot of problems. Secondly, most other problems that you imagine probably wouldn't exist outside capitalism or statism and the monetary system.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH What is your argument? What is your alternative to capitalism? I own my body, whether you, the state, or anyone else says I do or don't. I also own anything created by my labor, in a way it is a part of me because I created it, and again, I own this because it is a part of me regardless of anyone else recognizing that.
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
"I own my body, whether you, the state, or anyone else says I do or don't."
WTF are you talking about. 1) I'm not a statist. 2) You do own your body according to me. These are non-arguments against an imaginary position.
I question your ability to own land and resources, or rather to deny others access to land and resources.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
What gives you the right to deny other people access to parts of the same Earth they walk on? If you can defend that, you may be able to defend capitalism.
But if you can't even defend property rights, if you can't even defend a prerequisite or premise of a system, then you really don't have a case.
How can you possibly claim that denying people access to land they need to survive is not forceful?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY
If you are able t defend property rights of resources and land, we can argue about the 'fruits of your labour' (which is another nice term capitalists invented to pamper you into thinking you are not a slave).
Imagine I walk into your house and steal your tv, then improve it and sell it. Is the profit I make of that the 'fruit of my labour' and am I entitled to it? Of course not, the tv wasn't mine to improve and sell in the first place. That profit is build on force.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SKATEyD3STROY "What is your argument?"
I don't need to defend the default position. If you want property rights, it's up to you to prove legitimacy. You apply the same logic to the state, try applying it to yourself. That's how I became an anarcho-socialist.
Our problem with government is lack of legitimacy. I applied the very same thing to property rights (specifically land ownership). I've told you why it is forceful, it's up to you to defend legitimacy (or find it to begin with).
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
This is where they should have been from the start.
SKATEyD3STROY 1 month ago
this is what needs to happen i think the movement needs to evolve DC is a good place i know allot of tea party members and they we're asking why wall street ? why not DC ? well now it has moved to DC.... remember its about "We The People" in the end and money has been dictating law for to long.
CazyDayz 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CazyDayz "and money has been dictating law for to long." That's why it was started at Wall Street. People shouldn't just Occupy DC, they should Occupy everywhere they can. Each and every city, large and small.
seriousguynogames3 1 month ago
the message in OWS won't die out because of the cold or because OWS lost the "fresh protest smell"
ttzz2003 1 month ago 49
That black dude has an ugly ass nose lol.
blackice214 1 month ago
@blackice214 and he STILL gets more pussy than you
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FloydIV 1 month ago
@blackice214 grow up kiddo.
tosb38 1 month ago
get onboard this. stop sitting around on youtube being fooled by the ron paul hoax. HE WILL NOT HELP YOU. don't wait for him to start talking about "CHANGE" before u wake up
fuzzjunky 1 month ago
I like disobedience, I'm not so into the civil part anymore. Of course, this is coming from someone sitting in his bedroom doing nothing.
resincoatedlungs 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
What does Anna mean if she didn't have a job? She has a job where it's her job to report on thing. Why not send a film crew?
deadsnowman83 1 month ago
@deadsnowman83
True I'm sure she could, but she's not her own boss though it would be Cenk's call on whether to send her or keep her back.
ViciousRanger 1 month ago
@deadsnowman83 no she means if she didn't have a job, she would go as a citizen, not as a reporter, because remember she "wouldn't have a job" so she doesn't have a film crew to send
fuzzjunky 1 month ago
I'm gonna go be a bad apple, hopefully I get us all maced and beat up :)
righyanb 1 month ago
you can't kill the "OCCUPATION" baby i love when people stand up for there rights.
virtuvianTrace 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Protesting is not enough to take back the money that is being robbed from you. You can not stop the gravy train by holding signs. Though, I respect your right to do it, I think we need to come together, across party lines, and storm Congressional Hall until the government is put back into its proper place, drawing a line between government and business, just like government and religion.
itcanbecheezcaketime 1 month ago
Said part is and this is just my take on it I like the Occupy movement I understand you have to have a peaceful protest but in the end I'm not too sure peaceful will do anything about anything they want to get done. When already government's are ran by the same system there protesting against I just don't see anything happening stuff starts to happen when people get pissed off like the people in Greece Civil Disobedience of the People BY The PEOPLE!!!!
ZTheArchAngel 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
100% Congress is gathering a police force armed with gas and clubs at the moment
MrLewisTan 1 month ago
The problem with using the phrase "Civil Disobedience" is that is links it with other movements that have openly opposed the law with the goal of showing that the law is unjust. The most obvious example in my mind would be the Civil Rights Movement. The fact is this protest isn't like that and though that is what you may aspire to be it is ignorant to pretend and diminish by comparison that struggle.
SlipperySnake321 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Occupy needs more then just protests. They need to analyse the capitalist system and oppose it. TYT thinks that capitalism can be saved but they are wrong. Capitalism cannot be made human. The social democrats ( used to be very moderate socialists ) tried it and all capitalists fled to India and China. They fired our workers and bought cheap Chinese workers. Because of that the social democrats turned right-wing in a desperate attempt to get the capitalists back to Europe. They never came back!
UDSS 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@UDSS
Ok dumb ass, take your meds.
mecher3k 1 month ago
@UDSS
Yeah, Why don't you turn Occupy Washington into a Bolshevik revoltuion to destroy Capitalism.
Capitalism is the closest thing to true democracy
your money has the power to buy what you want, the power to fund what you want.
you can fund enviroment protection or charity or fund research for erectile dsyfunction drug research
you can buy a burger, buy any kind of burger
it is your choice
you use your money to get what you want
that is freedom
GermansMustDie 1 month ago
i wish i could go but im 14 -_-
bjcm9 1 month ago
BTW, is it legal to counter pepper spray the police once they have sprayed you as, you know, self-defense? Or use a pair of fans. :D
fingrid 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Revolution time against "greedy bastards".
ThaGenius101 1 month ago
wtf y would someone have a negative connotation of civ disobendience!!!??? it was the cornerstone of MLK Jr and Gandhi
buminater94 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I bet $10 there will be police brutality
finalsight 1 month ago
please "peaceful" ? i dont expect the protesters to use violence just yet, but the police will
spaik007 1 month ago in playlist Fler videoklipp från TheYoungTurks
Occupying a place without a permit like they did in Zucotti Park is civil disobedience. Refusing to leave and getting pepper sprayed by cops is civil disobedience. This protest is seeking a permit. So it's not. It's political activism. Which isn't to say that it's better or worse. But it is what it is.
enmiliar 1 month ago
THEY MIGHT USE THE MILITARY TO ATTACK THE PROTESTERS WARNING,THERE MIGHT BE A CIVIL UNREST
1123359 1 month ago
Can you guys please talk about the PIPA bill? It's almost the same as SOPA, but is not receiving the media attention.
niamdtv 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
PROTEST NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT!!!
1123359 1 month ago 34
Ahhh yeah now that's what I'm talking about! Finally some REAL protesting.
LilacStar82 1 month ago
I say we occupy congress and stay there
robertrulebirtannia 1 month ago
I have written to my Los Angeles city councilman Richard Alarcon, Los Angeles County board of supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, and State Assemblymember Felipe Fuentes and State Senator Alex Padilla who fellow alumni of San Fernando Senior High School but different years, all who are all Democrats and their lack of replies give impressions they only care about staying in office to acquire personal wealth, power, and prestige.
airforcemax 1 month ago
I wrote Congressman Berman along with other California Democrats Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi and Congresswoman Jane Harman with US Senators Boxer (D-CA) and Feinstein (D-CA) including US President candidates Hilary Clinton (D-NY) especially Barack "Barry" Hussein Obama II (D-IL) to hopefully investigate employment practices allowed by Rob Walton of Walmart Stores Inc. None of them proved that they care.
airforcemax 1 month ago
In 2007, while I was working at
Sam's Club 6625
12920 Foothill Blvd
San Fernando California 91340
Phone: 1-818-365-7710 and Fax: 1-818-365-0690
I wrote my Congressman Howard Berman and US Senators Boxer and Feinstein who did not care to investigate Rob Walton of Walmart Stores Inc for their employment practices.
airforcemax 1 month ago
Wish I could be there.
cne08 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
If occupy Edmonton can exist so can occupy Congress... WE ARE THE 99%!!! whoop whoop!
SirJordan1000 1 month ago
Apparently your First Amendment rights is now classified as "Civil Disobedience" .
kennymacdaddy 1 month ago
The reason America exists is because of civil disobedience.
superhamzah85 1 month ago 2
Jayar is pretty knowledgeable compared to other host beside Cenk and Ana, Jayar always make sense to me
crumcon 1 month ago
Occupy FED, White House and Congress
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