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Someone back there missed a critical principle of American national formation, that while they *might* (might!) be able to claim that the Constitution of the United States does not guarantee "the pursuit of happiness," the FOUNDING and FORMATIONAL document of this nation, our Declaration of Independence, DOES. The Founding Fathers stated so, quite literally and quite emphatically. Why, they even had the chutzpah to say that such right is INALIENABLE to all, and that this is SELF-EVIDENT TRUTH!
bimboblacky 1 year ago
When the California Governor vetoed the marriage equality bill, he said at the time that either the people OR the courts should make the decision. He publicly APPLAUDED the court for its decision to allow same sex marriage, saying he stood by it. And he very publicly came out AGAINST Prop 8, and has refused, along with the Att. General, to defend the state in this lawsuit. SO let's get the story straight.
plinfesty 2 years ago
I don't dispute the facts. However Governor Schwarzenegger could have signed AB 43, and he certainly could have (and still can) furiously denounce the parts of the Republican Party that still somehow thinks that it is appropriate to have the extermination of same-sex families featured in its official party platform.
signab43 2 years ago
the point is, our Constitution does not intend in protecting anybody's feelings, nor it intends to ensure that every citizen gets exactly the same economic benefits, this is what gay marriage activists are trying to do.
Speaking of freedoms, my personal feelings are not being protected. For example, when I went to college, I was personally attacked by gay professors because of my religious beliefs. So, legally, they had more freedom than I did!
sammy1251980 2 years ago
oh, you poor misfortunate soul, being harassed because of your beliefs. You didn't like that, did you? Then why would you do it to other people?
Remember that bit about "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." The Constitution does not intend to protect anyone's freedom, it intends to protect everyone's freedom.
If you were spreading lies like this in college, and refused to even read the documents you were 'believing,' then you probably deserved to be attacked by your professors.
signab43 2 years ago
Our Constitution, does not guarantee the pursuit of happiness, it guarantees everybody's freedom to life, liberty, and property. But people like you, want to silence people like me, thus take away my liberties.
Nowhere in Constution it says that people should be punished for criticizing any kinds of behavior, including homosexual sex. Yet, you are trying to create laws that would punish me for speaking my mind. That does not make sense.
sammy1251980 2 years ago
How, pray tell, is my happy marriage punishing you?
signab43 2 years ago
not yet, but if perry wins, meaning we will have a law stating that homosexual marriage is a civil right, I will be punished by losing my job, or not being able to get jobs with good security and benefits. I will be put on the same board as racists by the society, and I don't want this to happen.
That's why Perry case makes me worry.
sammy1251980 2 years ago
well, if that were true, I can only say "better you than me."
But of course, it's just another lie by the Opponents of Equality. How in the world would you "lose your job," unless you're one of the selfish wingnuts who is profiting from this whole battle?
signab43 2 years ago
the same way members of KKK, or those who oppose interracial marriages, lose their jobs.
sammy1251980 2 years ago
There's a KKK member two cubes over. There's a Jew two cubes the other way. Both has a job. Get over yourself.
If you hate people that much, you shouldn't be in a workplace, you should be a Catholic Priest and out of the way of honest, respectful people.
It's a shame we have to have laws to make that happen, but apparently we do.
signab43 2 years ago
what makes you think that feelings of practicing homosexuals should trump over the feelings of the majority of Americans who think that homosexual behavior is abnormal?
sammy1251980 2 years ago
Just because something is unpopular doesn't mean that it should be illegal, There are probably plenty of people who wold object to something that you're doing. If you're not bothering anybody, what's the big deal?
Gay people are taxpayers and parents; they are friends and children. They should be able to participate fully in our society and economy.
What makes you think that you're entitled to freedoms that others are not?
signab43 2 years ago