although i will say, come on people its just a person sharing a view, yes theyre mostly wrong we think, and correcting them does stop the wrong info being spread but the word idiot is strong and doesnt apply to this. so where you lot idiots before you were informed? no you were merely uninformed!
hmm i tried all my life to just get up and do it (regardless of my balanced diet) but only now and again i could actually get up and go, too tired n slightly negative most the times.although im very headstrong life was beating me handsdown. so then i tried a plant based diet and like almost all reports of any other humans doing this my life turned into a fucking cartoon where i could sketch out a scene then just go make it happen, meat 31 yrs= struggling thru life, herbivore 9mnth=striving
It's kind of like saying humans are amphibians because we can swim. The up-loader of this video is an idiot and obviously can't be bothered to look at basic human physiology. We're frugivores. Meant to eat a diet of fruit and greens.
Energy can also be burned up by using your brain A LOT. And I mean, a whole lot more than the usual amount. Like, when you're puzzling over something for full days almost non-stop, you'll feel like you've run a marathon.
Recently I got my vitamin B12 shots from the doctor. Due to how the body takes it in it can't be supplemented with pills. B12 is only found in animals from what I know. So vegans may suffer from the negative effects of lacking B12, which may very well be a sacrifice they're willing to make for the animals. I won't. I like my nerves intact. But I also like animals so I want to only eat those who've not been treated too ill.
We're not cavemen anymore, and funny how were supposed to be omnivores, when scientists prove again and again than vegans/vegetarians, are generally healthier, than non veg.. I see some inconsistance here. Our intestines, are built much the like that of a gorilla, who eats plants only, and termites when food otherwise, is insufficient.
We're not cavemen anymore, and funny how were supposed to be omnivores, when scientists prove again and again than vegans/vegetarians, are generally healthier, than non veg.. I see some inconsistance here. Our intestines, are built much the like that of a gorilla, who eats plants only, and termites when food otherwise, is insufficient.
Ok heres the thing---YES humans are omnivores---yes we have long running legs and tools to hunt and yes we need a LITTLE meat...but we CAN CHOOSE to be vegetarians (personally i think ovo lacto or ovo veg is the way depending on WHERE HOW YOU GET THE MILK EGGS) and we will still have to raise chickens and fish for OUR DOGS AND CATS-----thing is that we needed meat/milk until the MODERN AGE when we have electricity and machines etc that we use---this is the NEW AGE--little eggs and veg is right
@BAchoHAl we don't need any meat, milk or eggs and the only reason you still consume them is because you like how they taste. health professionals keep publishing studies showing that animal products cause the most common and deadly of diseases in humans- the average american diet is the #1 killer (stroke). Vegetarianism is not a healthy choice and it is certainly not a "compassionate" choice. Milk and eggs are as bad as meat, the animals are just as tortured and all are killed.
@seymourLlama Peace! Actually if your just did not kill the chickens and raised them free range and just milked the cows and goats the old fashioned way by hand--where is the problem. Also humans do need a little meat this could be got through insects also. I never said get these from factory farms. Also cows will go extinct without humans caring for them-if you keep them from getting ate by wolves or disease you would have to humanely kill them if they get sick beyond repair--....
@BAchoHAl Also when the animal gets sick and you get the vet but it is too sick to fix then you have to put it down to stop the suffering what do you do with the body? Make cat and dog food! Also if we stopped keeping dogs in fences and keep our chickens free range then let all the dogs free then where would they go to eat---the chickens! They would get eaten some of them anyway!
I am sorry but human beings are in every aspect most similar to chimps, and they are not even close to vegetarians, they eat basicaly everything they can easily hunt down, including small monkeys, termites, and even other chimps, but that is rare. Ethical reasons I can understand. I support balanced diet with small inclusion of meat. Also,as soon as I am able I shall start killing my own meat, through hunting since by killing it I think I'll show more respect,and eat only as much as I NEED.
@derokojohn Killing a being who wants to live will never be respectful. Is there any way to respectfully rape someone? Read "the comparative anatomy of eating" article available online, we're not omnivores, we're 100% biologically and physically herbivores. a diet is never balanced when it includes animal products, we're not designed to digest them. and you don't NEED any meat, milk or eggs. Ask any medical professional.
We established and created tools to survive, NOT EAT ANIMALS..
..We made clothes from dead animals to keep warm, we never needed an animal diet, we may have lived off them when we did not have any other food choices or resources, but there is no excuse today, other than "meat and dairy tastes nice".
NOW we are simply destroying our bodies and planet because the majority are being duped into a meat eating diet.
Perhaps you could look at the FACTS properly and embrace the right choice? Thanks
@benjymurray279 Maybe you should start looking at the facts and make the right choice. People have canine teeth for a reason, and it's not to cut carrots. We are omnivores and we are meant to eat meat as well as plants.
@EnragedTurkey all herbivores have canines. maybe YOU should start looking at facts & stop believing bullshit that you didn't even research. read "the comparative anatomy of eating" by milton mills (a short article available online). we have the biology of an herbivore. look it up.
Omnivore doesnt mean its necessary to eat meat. Thats what the word carnivore means. Omnivore means the ability to survive on either plants or meat. Fail.
@CantWeedThis Of course not idiot. It just happens a large percentage of the population for tens of thousands of years have been on an omnivorous diet; they've eating both meat and plants. Your definition is wrong, which is apparent to me but not your pot-addled brain.
@Antiks72 You arent communicating anything of any substance. Im refuting against the jackass in this video who claims humans "NEED" to eat a diet including both dead carcasses and plants. This is completely false and you just conceded to this point. My work is done here. Ad hominem head.
@CantWeedThis Actually, humans will always need meat.
So will plants. Yes, plants. The plans that you eat, eat animals. You aren't saving or preventing death, you're just like the rest of us. Plants use the nutrients in the soil which can only be replaces my the nitrates and phosphorus and potassium. Where do you think that comes from? Bloodmeal and Bonemeal from slaughterhouses.
Congratulations, you also contribute to death. There's no way around it. Circle of life.
@cavemantiger Actually plants dont impose suffering when they eat the nutrients out of the soil, MORON. The philosophy of veganisms main concern is avoiding needless suffering of sentience MORON. Youd sound a lot less retarted if you just said "i love to eat meat and i dont give a fuck about anyone elses suffering". Atleast that would be truthful. Instead of going around making jack assed remarks that are completely imbecilic and illogical as a way to justify your assholishness
@cavemantiger circle of life is not picking up a carton of cow's milk at the groceries. humans don't need animal products, they never have (cavemen were vegetarians for most of their existence) and never will. most diseases are brought up by consumption of animal products, it's no coincidence, it's because we're physically herbivores. try going in a field and killing, skinning and eating a cow with your bare hands and teeth. go ahead.
@seymourLlama Actually, cavemen were mostly meat eaters. Clearly you have never done research on this because you know very little about humankind. We are omnivores, our entire systems evolved to require meat as well as plant based diets, just like wild boars and bears. We are not vegetarians. We are not physically herbivores, or else we could digest cellulose. You must be a retard to think you have a clue. How pathetic. Please educate yourself, you're making our IQ's drop.
@cavemantiger It's a myth that we're completely unable to digest cellulose, some cellulose gets fermented in our colons and turned into assimiliable butyric acid, granted this happens only to a small degree insufficient to fuel us completely BUT in many other herbivorous primates the ability to ferment cellulose is also limited and inferior to that of a cow and they're still specialized plant eaters since they get the bulk of their calories form plant SUGARS not cellulose.
@cavemantiger By the way fruit bats are complete herbivores and they cannot digest cellulose AT ALL. As you can see the argument "we can't digest cellulose therefore we're carnivores" is a very poor one.
@cavemantiger It isn't true that cavemen ate mostly meat. They did, only if they lived in places where plant foods were scarce, otherwise their calories came from plant starches and fruit. We first evolved at the plant-rich tropics where we would have eaten such a diet. The digestive anatomy of bears is nothing like that of humans. For instance, bear small intestine is only half the lenght of human small intestine compared to body lenght, indicating greater carnivory.
@mandalacolorato Intestine length doesn't proved anything. Cats have long intestines as well, as yes they're carnivores. Long intestines don't prevent you from eating meat, they include you in eating plants.
@mandalacolorato It is true that cavemen ate mostly meat. It is common knowledge. Take a good study in Cro Magnon and Neanderthal you dipshit, because you're so very very wrong.
@LCHFinCanada In the cro magnon days, meat was the biggest part of the diet. this is because they were moving into neanderthal territory (neanderthal diets were about 80% meat) and along with taking, sharing, and learning the new territory, diets were changed due to different and less plants and edible fruits growing in the north where the cro magnon moved into. There's a cool vid series all about it on youtube, see if you can find it. the acting is a bit lame but it's not too bad.
@Antiks72 they have been on an omnivorous diet because they like how it tastes, not because it's the best for them, just like humans have been smoking, raping people, killing people, doing drugs, etc. for thousands of year, it doesn't mean it should be done, it doesn't mean we're biologically engineered to do those things, it just means humans are profoundely stupid and selfish. we don't need animal products, the only moral option is to go vegan.
@seymourLlama then explain to me how ancient man got his ample supply of B12. Without B12, our species wouldn't go anywhere. Veganism is religion, as is very clear by how they ignore facts and instead rely on their bogus moral arguments, or outright lying and saying that man is an herbivore, which is complete bullshit.
@Antiks72 Highland gorillas never eat any animal food. They get their B12 by accidentally ingesting insects along with their plant foods. In India, people today get most of their B12 the same way - their plant food contains microscopic insect parts and insect feces (source: Weston Price Foundation - no vegans). The human herbivore is designed to get his B12 "accidentally" while eating plant foods. Vegans only need B12 supplements because they live in a modern sterilized bug-free world.
@mandalacolorato Well, you sort of proved my point. You have to eat living insects in order order to obtain B12. I don't know about you, but I find insects disgusting, and I'll stick with foods that taste good and provide me with what I need.
No one should be a vegan without first sitting on a real honest-to-goodness plow and plowing a field. Look behind you, and marvel at all the chopped-up rabbit nests, mouse nests, lizard/snake body parts, etc. Speculate on the (thousands/millions) of small animals and insects dying for you. How big or human-like does a face need to be before you'll attach value to it? It's the choice between being a realist who embraces science and logic, versus being a hypocrite. You've made your choice.
I know. I sound evil. But the sad truth is, for one thing to live, another must die. Vegans say that living off something else is wrong, and go as far as to not eat yeast. Truth is, cows are below humans on the food chain. We are omnivores, and therefore eat meat.
@TapionPinosha Dont use cows as an example. Cows are made my man hence why there is only female cows. Same with chickens. Everything in nature has a seed to reproduce itself.
@nextinline777 Isn't a bull, the male cow? And a rooster is the male chicken? A Ram is a male sheep? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they reproduce themselves haha.
@nextinline777 Isn't a bull, the male cow? And a rooster is the male chicken? A Ram is a male sheep? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they reproduce themselves haha.
Lack of pigmentation though shows a lack of elements and so needs to be provided. People with strong pigmentation are disgusted with raw meat. Their palate knows that this is foreign to them, while those who lack prefer their meats rare. Their body craves for the nutrients in the blood. Since I choose to not eat meat I have been 100% healthier. I do not have any deficiencies, and the ailments that weakened my body and immune system ceased. So not all humans require meat for survival.
I am a vegan. I do not require flesh for my nutrition. Not all human species are able to produce their nutrients naturally though. Therefore they have to intake it through the blood proteins of an animal. Those who can intake plants then use the sun to provide what is needed is due to the pigmentation of the skin. Depending on the primary color of pigment (red, blue, and yellow) allows us to understand the abundance of elements that are manipulated with the sun.
&that recurring argument about vegans being unhealthy is sheer bollocks. What do meatetarians do when their bad cholesterol levels are high? IF they care, they start in-taking healthier foods. Similarly, a vitamin-deficient vegan/vegetarian may accept the challenge of constantly seeking healthier vegetables and fruits more suited to her body's needs and spare the animals instead. Besides, meatetarians tend to have more health issues anyway. Vegetables and fruits alone have sufficient nutrients.
Yes, our intelligence was the tool that enabled us to hunt, may be even survive. That same intelligence, today, is allowing us to ask the normative questions regarding the morality of eating dead animals. Eating meat is simply not a necessity any longer, hence it is more a normative debate. If you do, however, want to look at the positive facts about the impact of allocating energy for feeding livestock and such, then the case for vegetarianism becomes all the more compelling.
I mean i just think farm factories shouldnt abuse animals before they die . They should at least give animals a peaceful death :/ they shouldnt treat them like shit x.x
May I point out that yes indeed biologically we are omnivorous, but that it doesn't matter becuase whether we can eat meat has nothing to do with the moral permissibility of eating meat? It's biologically safe yes, but morally unjustifiable.
@holypie987 And let me tell you something. Of course plants are living things. Do you honestly think i've never thought of that? They're not conscious beings though, so they don't experience harm. The only moral duty we have toward them is indirect (such as in the case where we deplete them to the point of harming an ecosystem upon which conscious creatures depend.)
You guys should check out the book 80/10/10. It discusses how humans are different than meat eaters and similar to plant eaters. I think humans can eat fish, but due to pollution in our modern world, that isn't a good option anymore
Here are 3 things wrong with your argument. 1st, we DO have hair ALL OVER OUR BODIES. All mammals (carnivore, omnivore, or herbivore) have fur, so it can't apply.
Second, we should NOT eat everything and it is VERY smart to stick to a group. Example: It's unhealthy to eat wood, or dust, or metal. So, we can't eat "Everything".
And third, while they did work out more (no cars, lol) their diet only included meat when their was no vegetables or fruit available (ex: winter/famine/frost) <3
@TheWinterWaterSong "1st, we DO have hair ALL OVER OUR BODIES" Yes we have hair (but less hair then when we were apes)
"2nd, we should NOT eat everything ... Example: It's unhealthy to eat wood, or dust, or metal." ... Did he really have to say this??? but yes we eat plant matter just not tree wood and we do need iron (a metal) in our diets along with other metals.
3rd, while they did work out more it included meat when their was no vegetables ... And yet they ate meat ... Humans are Omnivores
@VallartaPete 1. What's your point? Wheither we have more or less hair isn't the debate here. Horses, Tigers, Apes all have hair. Being an Omnivore, Carnivore, or Herbivore has nothing to do with it.
2. I stand corrected (score 1 for you) we do eat metals such as Iron, Calcium, ect.
3. Score 2 for you. I see we're Omnivores in the sense that we CAN eat meat. Wheither it's as healthy as it's cracked up to be is a different matter and therefore can't apply here.
BOOM! 1 years of being an omnivores has been denied. (or more if you finally become a veggies at your adult's age) While your were still a baby you were drinking MILKS and probably after you grown up you started to eat MEATS until you became a veggies.
Also. If were herbivore then eating MEATS will kill us instead giving us nutrients. Plus we have the knowledge and P-R-E-D-A-T-O-R eyes. Which makes us OMNIVORE.
I'm with Chuck! After decades of intensive study of the evolution and origins of man and ape, Charles Darwin, who founded the principle of evolution, concluded 100% that man is in fact an herbivore.
@southboy99 back then, we needed meat, we didint know how to grow anything and we followed the herds around.. that was necessity. now that we are more advanced, we can make soy and other beans and vegetables taste like any meat,but we mass produce these animals still... its killing them, its making us fat and killing us.. yet you still feed it to your children and yourself.... thats not fine.... zombie
@loveandpeaceFTW Oh get a fucking life. I eat meat but I am far from fat nor am I a walking skeleton like you. We eat meat because we need meat point blank. I'm an omnivore just like our primate cousins. You can base your diet off of compasion all you want. That's your right. So let me get back to lighting my grill for some tasty deer steaks.
@southboy99 dont get mad at me, people like you cant even admit that what your doing is wrong, and i didint call you fat, i said that people who eat that are more likely to have heart disease, and be fat, and im not a walking skeleton.. im healthy as can be. and if it were so natural, then why dont we have natural hunting skills, night vision, sharp teeth like dogs, ect. and also meat eaters like wolves and dogs have very short intestines why dont we.? have been healthy for 4 years with no meat.
@loveandpeaceFTW We have something called a brain. So instead of developing claws, huge fangs, speed we developed tools and teamwork. The human brain would not be what it is today if it were not for hunting. Humans have been hunting ever since we were able to draw on cave walls. Eating meat is nothing new, but vegitarianism is. My diet is natural because I can survive in the wild if need be and would not have to suppliment my diet with B12 pills or protein shakes like you.
@southboy99 like i said it was nessesity back then, its not now, and i have NEVER taken a b12 pill or a protein shake, i get everything i need from rice, beans, fruits vegetables, nuts.. and if meat is SOOOOO natural... how come if you dont eat it for a while... then eat it, you get very ill.. that dosent happen with vegetables and fruits.. and rice and things like that..i could survive perfect in the wild....and i do.
@loveandpeaceFTW Oh you are so full of crap. You don not get sick from eating meat after you have been away from it a while. Do you know how many peopl have tried the vegan diet for a year then went back with no issues? Yea you may be healthy now, but lack of B12 and protein will cause you health problems when you get older.
@southboy99 its the honest truth.. i didnt eat meat for about 2 years, then acedentally ate some in some soup. i got phisically sick and was regergitating, and sick for that night and the next day. and i am not the only vegan who this has happened to. and i get plenty of protein and B12 from my diet. my parents make me go to the doctor regularly to make sure of that.. and he agrees that everything is perfectly fine.
@loveandpeaceFTW It sounds too me like your body just wasnt used too, which is perfectly normal. If you were to start slowly introducing meat into your diet again it wouldnt happen. But I remember the same thing happend to me when I started to switch to healthier diets.
@DeathMetal4Ever1 yea, but that was the poin i was trying to make to him, all i was saying is that if it so natural to us why would have to get used to it. and thanks, but im not going to start eating meat.. im a vegan till death :)
@loveandpeaceFTW Well you being getting sick from the meat doesnt mean meat isn't natural, I got sick from adding more vegetables to my diet, since my stomach wasnt used to me eating so many.
@loveandpeaceFTW You accidently ate some meat and got sick. That is total bullshit. Humans are meant to eat and have eaten meat since the dawn of time. Eating meat is nothing new. It's not like someone went around the world and taught us that we can eat meat. Every culture on earth eats meat because that is the natural thing to do. Especially if you live in an area where you have drastic climate changes and cant eat plants during winter.
@southboy99 its not bullshit.. i live with an entire family who eats meat.. it bound to happen that i accedentally eat something with meat it in.. shit happenes. and like i said im not the only person who that has happened to, it will make you sick. and really.. since the begginning of time huh, so humans were eating meat before humans were around.. makes a lot of sence.. im trying really hard not to be rude.. not that i can say the same about you.
@loveandpeaceFTW Dude, you probably didn't even get sick until you realized that you ate a little bit of meat. So basically it is in your head. Predators including humans have eyes more in the front to aid in hunting. While vegitarian animals have them more on the sides to watch for predators.
@southboy99 it was in soup that my mom gave mei ate it and lie 20 min later i was throwing upthen i went and lookedin the soup and soundsome chicken. lots of vegans have had the same thing where their bodys arntused to eating the meat or something like that.and monkeys are vegitarians,im not denying the fact thatour ansestors ate meat and huntedbut that was their way of surviving,im saying now we have ways of making food from soyand theres no need tomass produce animals in the way that we do now
@askingalot How come your video did not make any valid points?
Im kinda disappointed, I thought the video was called "The Vegans are wrong..."
Dude you have not made any solid points, nor did you prove anything about the human species, sorry man but this video is just a waste of zero's and one's
Truly Scientific people would tell you, the enzymes produced in our saliva are specially for decomposing plant matter, not meat, nor is our intestines the proper size for meat eaters, thus you are wrong
"Truly Scientific people would tell you, the enzymes produced in our saliva are specially for decomposing plant matter, not meat"
The same Truly Scientific people would also tell you, the hydrochloric acid in our stomach is specially for decomposing meat, not plant matter, thus you are wrong too.
@JackFook lol that is not true, just because small micro amounts of hydro chloric acids are made does not mean its for meat! lol because scientist already concluded monkeys are our ancestor and monkeys do not eat meat, none in any appreciable amounts,thus you are incorrect sir! Then put in the amount of useless acids you accumulate while eating meats, probably another reason meat eaters get disease quicker and cant remove the accumulated harmful radical in those acids. anyway im glad im correct!
"scientist already concluded monkeys are our ancestor and monkeys do not eat meat, none in any appreciable amounts,thus you are incorrect sir!"
Which scientists are you referring to, sir? We have to see for ourselves, you understand. Your word is not enough, you understand. We don't know who you are or if you're telling the truth, you understand.
@itsadeadmansparty Monkeys are not our ancestors. We share a common ancestor, yes, but we are not descended from monkeys. And plus our closest relative the chimp eats meat. So the better genetic argument is for being an omnivore...
@itsadeadmansparty you are wrong., Chimps Regularly Wage *war* on other Groups of chimps Killing the Loosers and eating them. They tend to go for the Youngsters First to prove there Power to the Other group.
@itsadeadmansparty Chimps have been fighting other chimps since the dawn of time. Even when the human population was at a tribe level tribes still fought over resources, women, etc. War is as old as life itself.
@southboy99 Yes I agree Chimps fight one another, I however am stating that if a chimp were to eat another chimp uncooked in the wild they would get sick, The chimp is not meant to eat meat, it is not a source of energy for chimps, when given plenty of land and much room to expand, i doubt fighting need to happen
Its only when the rainforrests are cut down to make land for cows to graze that inefficient waste is produced thus ruining Earth, You must understand we are not built to digest meat
@southboy99 After you examine the reason humans get cancer and why it is linked directly to fats produced from other animals. They dont want to teach people this as it would devastate the entire production farming which like I said before wastes millions of acres of land to cow production,So since they can not teach normal couples and families eating meat equals a shorter life span. I would also state that if I showed you the horrors of production meat factories you probably would be grossed out
@itsadeadmansparty LOL the cancer comes from all the pesticides, chemicals, and preservatives the factories put in the meat, not the meat itself. And you say we are not ment to eat meat? Probaby the dumbest comment I have read today, my god what the fuck did they teach you in school.
@DeathMetal4Ever1 These vegan idiots are so full of crap. The one I like to hear is that meat rots in our intestines. I can guarantee you that his shit doesn't smell any better than mine. These fucking idiots.
@southboy99 I know dude, When I started adding more meat and protein in my diet I lost over 20 pounds. And I cracked up on the last part of your comment LOL there a bunch of braindead morons.
@itsadeadmansparty I can assure you I will be healthier than you then, and that I am healthier than you now. Balance and moderation is everything. I eat plenty of vegetables, fruits, nuts etc.. the only meat I eat is lean meat. So your right I guess ill die when Im 40 even though I get plenty of exercise and eat better than you ever will, give me a fucking break.
@DeathMetal4Ever1 actually you are incorrect sir! You have not studied where the cancer COMES FROM, The cancer forms when higher levels of fats from meat derived living animals, and the body would rather go direct to the nutrients in the food, this inefficiency causes the cells to lose energy which it requires to make perfect copies, the body would like to get rid of the incorrect copies, but it cannot remove them quickly when your body has too many animal meat derived oils blocking its way, duh
@itsadeadmansparty Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. Next thing you vegans are going to tell is that milk and cheese is going to give you cancer. And I would seriously like to know were you got all this information from.
@DeathMetal4Ever1 LOL I got my information from an actual scientific study haha
T. Colin Campbell, Jacob Gould Schurman Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University
Where did you get your information from huh?
You know whats sad is Im giving validated information, from public records but you just cant put 2 & 2 together
You were raised to think eating meat is wonderful for you but your parents didnt know,they didnt even have computers, we are just discovering now about it
@itsadeadmansparty I know about Colin and his China study, he never says to stop eating meat at all just we need more of a plant based diet and to lay off eggs, dairy etc... So I think I can survive off eating lean chicken my diet is very similar to yours believe it or not, but me being a weight lifter I need the extra protein which I cant get from fruits and vegetables alone. Try not to be so damn butthurt about it.
@itsadeadmansparty Shaolin monks eat meat also. The reason they don't kill animals is because they are Buddist. But they will eat meat if it is offered to them. Anyone can break solid blocks. It's more a form than diet.
@southboy99 southboy Shaolin Monks only eat Plants, im sorry but you have received incorrect information,
If a monk were to eat meat he would lose his title as Monk, he would forfeit his training as a monk and be rejected from the temple immediately, Monk perform a sworn oath before becoming a monk, Shaolin monks have many traditions that cannot be broken One is not to eat any meat period. That is forbidden or be expelled from Shaolin Temple, so you southboy need to Re-Educate Yourself Sir!
@itsadeadmansparty My bad, it's the buddish monks that will eat meat from time to time so your right about the Shaolin ones not eating meat. But speaking on education. It is wll documented that Humans in General have eaten meat from the dawn of time. If it were not from the eating of meat many humans living in colder climates would starve to death during long harsh winters. And the Shaolin monks only make up a small perecentage of people on earth. Less than .0050% in fact.
@southboy99 Listen Southboy, I agree that man survived the Quaternary Ice Age because he consumed meat, I completely agree, but I can also drink poison that doesnt mean its good for me either
Yes man has eaten meat to survive the last ice age,but meat eating will result in a shorter life, and by looking at the human from a scientific aspect and concluding is he omnivore or fruitivore,all science leads to Fruitivore
they cannot teach you this in school because it goes against the established norm
@itsadeadmansparty The second reason im pointing this out, is environmental, when we cut down rain forrests to make land for grazing cows, we increase the Methane on the planet, Even tho most people who goto burger king are un aware or uneducated enough to know we are hurting the complex balance nature has provided us, not to mention the horrors the animals go through, So I like Earth, I really do, and my research points to Methane as a serious problem, but you wont see this on FOX news
@itsadeadmansparty They cannot point this out on any news station because it goes against the Established Norm, If we actually educated your children in school they would leave school with a list of inventions on there belt, Southboy the real problem is what your parents and school taught you was not all correct, the school cannot actually give you a unbiased education, they must purposely leave out important events to keep the status quo the same, see politicians are not here to change anything
@itsadeadmansparty And you don't think more land would be wasted to grow your precious soy beans? If we were all vegitarians, you would have to cut down more rain forrests to creat land to grow your food. At least some of my food comes from free range animals that live IN the woods like deer, turkey, and rabbit that I hunt from time to time. I have a hunting license so basically i'm a conservationsist as well.
@southboy99 you making a valid point, i dont want to remove people rights to hunt, but obviously we are at a technological state where we can eliminate the need to harm nature anymore. We should build away from nature, literally encapsulate human land, so as it has the optimal carrying capacity, I would attempt to restore earth versus, build anymore factory farm, with a few more years of robotics it wont be far away that almost everything can be synthesized.
@itsadeadmansparty Yes we are at a technological state where we can manufacture food and not harm the environment. But even growing plants for food causes damage to soil, chemical run off etc. So unless you actually live in the wild and hunt and gather your food where it naturally grows, then everyone is to blame.
@southboy99 I agree with you but we are at that technological step now, not only that there is no utopias just what we can build now, all those problems with chemical run off are solvable too
the design for this was talked about first by a Jacque Fresco, even he points out that natural energy sources properly harnessed could power much of the world.
@itsadeadmansparty You also know that there are free range farms where they let the animals roam free and feed off grass. Not eating meat will never be the answer to problems.
@itsadeadmansparty Get real dude. Vegitarians live no longer than people who are omnivore. And eating meat is not the same as eating poison come on. Humans have always eaten meat. No one taught us, we just did what came naturally. Fruitivore LMAO. If all you did was eat fruit all day you will get fat.
@southboy99 man has not always eaten meat, and its provable by looking at you physical anatomy/biochemistry
Man was built to eat fruit in the wild, monkey eat fruit all day and they never gain a pound.
Anyway im argueing with somebody who cannot make a point, Everything I said is scientifically proven
If you consume meat, you asking for a shorter life than a vegitarian, you need not believe me, just goto the medical journals and open a book K! read a little and you will learn something dufus!
@itsadeadmansparty Dude you are an idiot. You can go to Europe and look at cave drawings where is showed early man hunting animals. Neanderthals used tools for hungint like spears, arrows. The American Inidan hunted Buffallo on the American Plain way before any European stepped on this land. You are dilusional my friend. If you want to be a vegitarian then hey good for you. But don't run around screaming were not supposed to eath this or that just because some animals feelings.
@southboy99 bro your not actually hearing what im saying, because we already covered this point a little earlier, Yes ancient man hunted, he needed this skills to survive last ice age, ok but before the ice age, for hundreds of thousands of year man eat fruits in the wild. My arguement is 98% of genetic information is the same as a chimp, and these chimps are eating mainly fruit in the wild, they have zero reason to hunt something larger than itself.
@bl91978 and yes we do come from Primates, they are our ancestor, 98% of the genes a human has comes from Primates, we are only 2 percent different from all other primates, the changes in our dna may be from extra terrestrials but the origin is Primate, or ancient homonids which were primates first
"So the better genetic argument is for being an omnivore"
That might be true. But archeological evidence for bone composition shows the bulk of our protein (90%+) came from meat, not plants. So the better archeological argument if for being carnivore, not omnivore.
And this archeological argument is supported by current evidence on disease, obesity and diet, especially with regard to carbohydrate content: The lower the better. Carbs only come from plants.
@JackFook actually the enzymes produced in our saliva are specific to carbohydrates decomposition not meat, Obviously stomachs work by using "Acids" to help breakdown matter, but trying to claim hydrocloric acid is there it must be for meat, lol is like saying gasoline cars can run on diesel now lol
"enzymes produced in our saliva are specific to carbohydrates"
That's true. The enzyme is called amylase. It breaks down starch into glucose. It doesn't do anything to plant fiber though. Humans can't digest plant fiber. So if the starch is locked inside fiber, amylase is useless.
Do you believe humans _can_ digest plant fiber? If yes, could you give us a reference to support that belief? The info I have says humans _can't_ digest plant fiber. But maybe I'm wrong.
@JackFook You are correct. Our bodies can't digest plat finber like herbivores can. We don't have a complex digestive system like a cow or horse to break that stuff down.
3. eating meat mainly can cause problems but thats only because those ppl arent getting enough exercise, if one eats meat they need to live a more active lifestyle and exercise a lot if u see the difference between carniovers and herbivores, herbivores sit around eating, carnivores have to move a lot to eat, thats why carnivores getting a lot of energy from meat has the trade off of having to try and catch their prey
"carnivores have to move a lot to eat, thats why carnivores getting a lot of energy from meat has the trade off of having to try and catch their prey"
Carnivores in the wild don't waste energy. They don't go to the gym. In fact, once they've eaten, they are the laziest mofos on the planet. Until the next meal.
1. unlike herbivores we didnt have advanced digestive systems to get the most energy out of a vegetable meal, so we relied on another energy source namely meat which gave tremendous amounts of energy before we discovered how to acquire bread, rice and pasta for instant energy from the carbs, fats/protein give more energy than cellulose
2. 1:22 finally another person who has the same brain levels as i do
"rice and pasta for instant energy from the carbs, fats/protein give more energy than cellulose"
Protein gives zero energy since we don't use protein for that purpose. Cellulose gives zero energy since humans can't digest it. Carbs are only an instant source of energy because hyperglycemia is toxic. The rest of the time, which is basically all the time once blood glucose comes back down to normal, our energy comes from fat. The bulk of our energy is stored as fat after all.
@ Stupid Talking Tree: Who tortures animals? I just put a bullet in their heads no torture at all in that "Bang Flop" they don't even know it happened. I take it you lot want to convert Lyons, Pigs, Sharks, Fish and all the other animals that eat living animals a well - Can I watch I think that would be hilarious to watch! LOL you people crack me up with the way you think! LOL
@pissedofffranchisee Actually, it's big companies that torture animals. I don't have an issue with eating meat, or raising animal's for meat, it's just the large companies who are using live turkey's for punching bags that I have an issue with, or cows standing in four feet of their own feces. That's what I have an issue with. And, no, actually, I don't want to convert animal's who eat meat, it's life. So, get your facts straight before you run your mouth.
So, you're saying, the only way to be "healthy", is to work out, so, if you eat cookies, cakes, french fries, burgers from fast food places, milk shakes all day, & you work out, that's going to magically keep all of the weight off? It will help, yes, but it's not going to change the side affects of eating so poorly. I do understand where you're coming from, to a point. We as humans, have choices not to have to torture animals, & use them as food, we have better resources then other animals.
This is exactly why some 'vegan preachers' hatred for meat is weird, or unfounded. HFCS is not meat. Sugar is not meat. Gluten is not meat. Most non-meat stuff in SAD are unhealthy. In fact that meat pattie should be the least of their problems, even though it's corn-fed and still bad.
Actually, human's are not supposed to eat meat with every meal or even every day. So, if someone wants to be vegetarian or vegan... it's probably a lot healthier than those who eat fast food and junk food multiple times daily.
@RinzuRozu Anyone would be healthier than a guy who eats fast food and junk food multiple times daily. Eating lean meat that is grass fed is very healthy.
@southboy99 I agree with you, I was merely making a point. I just find it funny that I've been told by someone I was unhealthy for being vegan while they were about to eat a big mac meal :p
What does a big mac meal contain besides meat? Potatoes. Grains (corn, wheat, soy, etc). Sugar (table sugar, HFCS). Salt. Hydrogenated vegetable oils.
@JackFook Lol, okay. You prove to me McDonalds meat is healthier than organic, grain-fed animal meat and I will give you a million dollars. And yeah, thanks for pointing out there are other unhealthy things included in a big mac... really learned something new today~
"prove to me McDonalds meat is healthier than organic, grain-fed animal meat"
I didn't say anything like that. Your comparison didn't imply anything like that either. If anything, your comparison suggested that there was something wrong about the meat contained in a big mac meal. I merely pointed out that considering everything else contained in that meal, maybe the problem is not the meat.
"thanks for pointing out there are other unhealthy things included in a big mac"
Your sarcasm suggests that you agree that potatoes, grains, sugar, salt and hydrogenated vegetable oils are bad for humans. Well at least we agree on that.
But consider this. All these things you agree are bad for us, they all come from plants (except salt).
"Actually, human's are not supposed to eat meat with every meal or even every day."
You mean from a physiological point of view? Archeological evidence from bone composition shows the bulk of food for humans is meat, not plants. This means humans are supposed to eat meat at every meal.
The argument that eating meat is natural is irrelevant. Humans have been killing and raping each other since the beginning of mankind. Does that mean we should continue to do so? NO.
"The argument that eating meat is natural is irrelevant. Humans have been killing and raping each other since the beginning of mankind. Does that mean we should continue to do so? NO."
You are confusing natural with traditional. The two are not synonymous. We can have traditions that are unnatural like body transformations using compression techniques for example. We can ignore traditions, but we cannot ignore our nature.
although i will say, come on people its just a person sharing a view, yes theyre mostly wrong we think, and correcting them does stop the wrong info being spread but the word idiot is strong and doesnt apply to this. so where you lot idiots before you were informed? no you were merely uninformed!
TheLeon1032 3 days ago
hmm i tried all my life to just get up and do it (regardless of my balanced diet) but only now and again i could actually get up and go, too tired n slightly negative most the times.although im very headstrong life was beating me handsdown. so then i tried a plant based diet and like almost all reports of any other humans doing this my life turned into a fucking cartoon where i could sketch out a scene then just go make it happen, meat 31 yrs= struggling thru life, herbivore 9mnth=striving
TheLeon1032 3 days ago
It's kind of like saying humans are amphibians because we can swim. The up-loader of this video is an idiot and obviously can't be bothered to look at basic human physiology. We're frugivores. Meant to eat a diet of fruit and greens.
MrMaryJanes 3 days ago
@MrMaryJanes "...is an idiot and obviously can't be bothered to look at basic human physiology. We're frugivores...."
Uh... what? You call someone an idiot for making an observation shared by all biologists, zoologists, anthropologists in the world?
Yet you cite no science to prove we're frugivores?
The human species is omnivorous. That's a well-known scientific fact. I'd love to see your "scientific proof" we're not.
Who's the idiot?
LCHFinCanada 2 days ago
Energy can also be burned up by using your brain A LOT. And I mean, a whole lot more than the usual amount. Like, when you're puzzling over something for full days almost non-stop, you'll feel like you've run a marathon.
FHomeBrew 3 days ago
Recently I got my vitamin B12 shots from the doctor. Due to how the body takes it in it can't be supplemented with pills. B12 is only found in animals from what I know. So vegans may suffer from the negative effects of lacking B12, which may very well be a sacrifice they're willing to make for the animals. I won't. I like my nerves intact. But I also like animals so I want to only eat those who've not been treated too ill.
FHomeBrew 3 days ago
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We're not cavemen anymore, and funny how were supposed to be omnivores, when scientists prove again and again than vegans/vegetarians, are generally healthier, than non veg.. I see some inconsistance here. Our intestines, are built much the like that of a gorilla, who eats plants only, and termites when food otherwise, is insufficient.
starfaery 1 week ago
We're not cavemen anymore, and funny how were supposed to be omnivores, when scientists prove again and again than vegans/vegetarians, are generally healthier, than non veg.. I see some inconsistance here. Our intestines, are built much the like that of a gorilla, who eats plants only, and termites when food otherwise, is insufficient.
starfaery 1 week ago
Vegans are regressive.
Antiks72 1 week ago
Ok heres the thing---YES humans are omnivores---yes we have long running legs and tools to hunt and yes we need a LITTLE meat...but we CAN CHOOSE to be vegetarians (personally i think ovo lacto or ovo veg is the way depending on WHERE HOW YOU GET THE MILK EGGS) and we will still have to raise chickens and fish for OUR DOGS AND CATS-----thing is that we needed meat/milk until the MODERN AGE when we have electricity and machines etc that we use---this is the NEW AGE--little eggs and veg is right
BAchoHAl 3 weeks ago
@BAchoHAl we don't need any meat, milk or eggs and the only reason you still consume them is because you like how they taste. health professionals keep publishing studies showing that animal products cause the most common and deadly of diseases in humans- the average american diet is the #1 killer (stroke). Vegetarianism is not a healthy choice and it is certainly not a "compassionate" choice. Milk and eggs are as bad as meat, the animals are just as tortured and all are killed.
seymourLlama 1 week ago
@seymourLlama Peace! Actually if your just did not kill the chickens and raised them free range and just milked the cows and goats the old fashioned way by hand--where is the problem. Also humans do need a little meat this could be got through insects also. I never said get these from factory farms. Also cows will go extinct without humans caring for them-if you keep them from getting ate by wolves or disease you would have to humanely kill them if they get sick beyond repair--....
BAchoHAl 1 week ago
@BAchoHAl Also when the animal gets sick and you get the vet but it is too sick to fix then you have to put it down to stop the suffering what do you do with the body? Make cat and dog food! Also if we stopped keeping dogs in fences and keep our chickens free range then let all the dogs free then where would they go to eat---the chickens! They would get eaten some of them anyway!
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CantWeedThis 1 month ago
I am sorry but human beings are in every aspect most similar to chimps, and they are not even close to vegetarians, they eat basicaly everything they can easily hunt down, including small monkeys, termites, and even other chimps, but that is rare. Ethical reasons I can understand. I support balanced diet with small inclusion of meat. Also,as soon as I am able I shall start killing my own meat, through hunting since by killing it I think I'll show more respect,and eat only as much as I NEED.
derokojohn 1 month ago
@derokojohn Killing a being who wants to live will never be respectful. Is there any way to respectfully rape someone? Read "the comparative anatomy of eating" article available online, we're not omnivores, we're 100% biologically and physically herbivores. a diet is never balanced when it includes animal products, we're not designed to digest them. and you don't NEED any meat, milk or eggs. Ask any medical professional.
seymourLlama 1 week ago
We established and created tools to survive, NOT EAT ANIMALS..
..We made clothes from dead animals to keep warm, we never needed an animal diet, we may have lived off them when we did not have any other food choices or resources, but there is no excuse today, other than "meat and dairy tastes nice".
NOW we are simply destroying our bodies and planet because the majority are being duped into a meat eating diet.
Perhaps you could look at the FACTS properly and embrace the right choice? Thanks
benjymurray279 1 month ago
@benjymurray279 Maybe you should start looking at the facts and make the right choice. People have canine teeth for a reason, and it's not to cut carrots. We are omnivores and we are meant to eat meat as well as plants.
EnragedTurkey 3 weeks ago
@EnragedTurkey all herbivores have canines. maybe YOU should start looking at facts & stop believing bullshit that you didn't even research. read "the comparative anatomy of eating" by milton mills (a short article available online). we have the biology of an herbivore. look it up.
seymourLlama 1 week ago
Omnivore doesnt mean its necessary to eat meat. Thats what the word carnivore means. Omnivore means the ability to survive on either plants or meat. Fail.
CantWeedThis 1 month ago
@CantWeedThis That is NOT what omnivore means. Omnivores consume meat and plants (everything).
Antiks72 1 month ago
@Antiks72 Oh really. So since im an omnivore i have to eath both, or what? I will die? Omnivore is an adaptation for survival. Get a clue moron.
CantWeedThis 1 month ago
@CantWeedThis Of course not idiot. It just happens a large percentage of the population for tens of thousands of years have been on an omnivorous diet; they've eating both meat and plants. Your definition is wrong, which is apparent to me but not your pot-addled brain.
Antiks72 1 month ago
@Antiks72 You arent communicating anything of any substance. Im refuting against the jackass in this video who claims humans "NEED" to eat a diet including both dead carcasses and plants. This is completely false and you just conceded to this point. My work is done here. Ad hominem head.
CantWeedThis 1 month ago
@CantWeedThis Actually, humans will always need meat.
So will plants. Yes, plants. The plans that you eat, eat animals. You aren't saving or preventing death, you're just like the rest of us. Plants use the nutrients in the soil which can only be replaces my the nitrates and phosphorus and potassium. Where do you think that comes from? Bloodmeal and Bonemeal from slaughterhouses.
Congratulations, you also contribute to death. There's no way around it. Circle of life.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
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@cavemantiger Actually plants dont impose suffering when they eat the nutrients out of the soil, MORON. The philosophy of veganisms main concern is avoiding needless suffering of sentience MORON. Youd sound a lot less retarted if you just said "i love to eat meat and i dont give a fuck about anyone elses suffering". Atleast that would be truthful. Instead of going around making jack assed remarks that are completely imbecilic and illogical as a way to justify your assholishness
CantWeedThis 1 month ago
@cavemantiger circle of life is not picking up a carton of cow's milk at the groceries. humans don't need animal products, they never have (cavemen were vegetarians for most of their existence) and never will. most diseases are brought up by consumption of animal products, it's no coincidence, it's because we're physically herbivores. try going in a field and killing, skinning and eating a cow with your bare hands and teeth. go ahead.
seymourLlama 1 week ago
@seymourLlama Actually, cavemen were mostly meat eaters. Clearly you have never done research on this because you know very little about humankind. We are omnivores, our entire systems evolved to require meat as well as plant based diets, just like wild boars and bears. We are not vegetarians. We are not physically herbivores, or else we could digest cellulose. You must be a retard to think you have a clue. How pathetic. Please educate yourself, you're making our IQ's drop.
cavemantiger 1 week ago
@cavemantiger It's a myth that we're completely unable to digest cellulose, some cellulose gets fermented in our colons and turned into assimiliable butyric acid, granted this happens only to a small degree insufficient to fuel us completely BUT in many other herbivorous primates the ability to ferment cellulose is also limited and inferior to that of a cow and they're still specialized plant eaters since they get the bulk of their calories form plant SUGARS not cellulose.
mandalacolorato 6 days ago
@cavemantiger By the way fruit bats are complete herbivores and they cannot digest cellulose AT ALL. As you can see the argument "we can't digest cellulose therefore we're carnivores" is a very poor one.
mandalacolorato 6 days ago
@cavemantiger It isn't true that cavemen ate mostly meat. They did, only if they lived in places where plant foods were scarce, otherwise their calories came from plant starches and fruit. We first evolved at the plant-rich tropics where we would have eaten such a diet. The digestive anatomy of bears is nothing like that of humans. For instance, bear small intestine is only half the lenght of human small intestine compared to body lenght, indicating greater carnivory.
mandalacolorato 6 days ago
@mandalacolorato Intestine length doesn't proved anything. Cats have long intestines as well, as yes they're carnivores. Long intestines don't prevent you from eating meat, they include you in eating plants.
Antiks72 6 days ago
@mandalacolorato It is true that cavemen ate mostly meat. It is common knowledge. Take a good study in Cro Magnon and Neanderthal you dipshit, because you're so very very wrong.
cavemantiger 3 days ago
@cavemantiger "...cavemen ate mostly meat..."
The anthropological evidence shows meat and other fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc. consistent with a hunter-gather omnivorous lifestyle.
There is no evidence supporting the fact it was "mostly" meat - but all the evidence shows meat was (and still is) an important part of our diet.
LCHFinCanada 2 days ago
@LCHFinCanada In the cro magnon days, meat was the biggest part of the diet. this is because they were moving into neanderthal territory (neanderthal diets were about 80% meat) and along with taking, sharing, and learning the new territory, diets were changed due to different and less plants and edible fruits growing in the north where the cro magnon moved into. There's a cool vid series all about it on youtube, see if you can find it. the acting is a bit lame but it's not too bad.
cavemantiger 2 days ago
@Antiks72 they have been on an omnivorous diet because they like how it tastes, not because it's the best for them, just like humans have been smoking, raping people, killing people, doing drugs, etc. for thousands of year, it doesn't mean it should be done, it doesn't mean we're biologically engineered to do those things, it just means humans are profoundely stupid and selfish. we don't need animal products, the only moral option is to go vegan.
seymourLlama 1 week ago
@seymourLlama then explain to me how ancient man got his ample supply of B12. Without B12, our species wouldn't go anywhere. Veganism is religion, as is very clear by how they ignore facts and instead rely on their bogus moral arguments, or outright lying and saying that man is an herbivore, which is complete bullshit.
Antiks72 1 week ago
@Antiks72 Highland gorillas never eat any animal food. They get their B12 by accidentally ingesting insects along with their plant foods. In India, people today get most of their B12 the same way - their plant food contains microscopic insect parts and insect feces (source: Weston Price Foundation - no vegans). The human herbivore is designed to get his B12 "accidentally" while eating plant foods. Vegans only need B12 supplements because they live in a modern sterilized bug-free world.
mandalacolorato 6 days ago
@mandalacolorato Well, you sort of proved my point. You have to eat living insects in order order to obtain B12. I don't know about you, but I find insects disgusting, and I'll stick with foods that taste good and provide me with what I need.
Antiks72 6 days ago
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No one should be a vegan without first sitting on a real honest-to-goodness plow and plowing a field. Look behind you, and marvel at all the chopped-up rabbit nests, mouse nests, lizard/snake body parts, etc. Speculate on the (thousands/millions) of small animals and insects dying for you. How big or human-like does a face need to be before you'll attach value to it? It's the choice between being a realist who embraces science and logic, versus being a hypocrite. You've made your choice.
Xiphos0292 1 month ago
beef, pork, chicken, lamb <3
mexivato210 1 month ago
Yeah. Go protest against otters for being evil. EVIL OTTERS!!!!! DIE,MURDEROUS FURRY DEMONS!!!!!!
TapionPinosha 1 month ago
I know. I sound evil. But the sad truth is, for one thing to live, another must die. Vegans say that living off something else is wrong, and go as far as to not eat yeast. Truth is, cows are below humans on the food chain. We are omnivores, and therefore eat meat.
TapionPinosha 1 month ago
@TapionPinosha Dont use cows as an example. Cows are made my man hence why there is only female cows. Same with chickens. Everything in nature has a seed to reproduce itself.
nextinline777 1 month ago
@nextinline777 Isn't a bull, the male cow? And a rooster is the male chicken? A Ram is a male sheep? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they reproduce themselves haha.
bunnykinsx3 1 month ago
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@nextinline777 Isn't a bull, the male cow? And a rooster is the male chicken? A Ram is a male sheep? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they reproduce themselves haha.
bunnykinsx3 1 month ago
Lack of pigmentation though shows a lack of elements and so needs to be provided. People with strong pigmentation are disgusted with raw meat. Their palate knows that this is foreign to them, while those who lack prefer their meats rare. Their body craves for the nutrients in the blood. Since I choose to not eat meat I have been 100% healthier. I do not have any deficiencies, and the ailments that weakened my body and immune system ceased. So not all humans require meat for survival.
italialop 1 month ago
I am a vegan. I do not require flesh for my nutrition. Not all human species are able to produce their nutrients naturally though. Therefore they have to intake it through the blood proteins of an animal. Those who can intake plants then use the sun to provide what is needed is due to the pigmentation of the skin. Depending on the primary color of pigment (red, blue, and yellow) allows us to understand the abundance of elements that are manipulated with the sun.
italialop 1 month ago
&that recurring argument about vegans being unhealthy is sheer bollocks. What do meatetarians do when their bad cholesterol levels are high? IF they care, they start in-taking healthier foods. Similarly, a vitamin-deficient vegan/vegetarian may accept the challenge of constantly seeking healthier vegetables and fruits more suited to her body's needs and spare the animals instead. Besides, meatetarians tend to have more health issues anyway. Vegetables and fruits alone have sufficient nutrients.
Chocosha 2 months ago
Yes, our intelligence was the tool that enabled us to hunt, may be even survive. That same intelligence, today, is allowing us to ask the normative questions regarding the morality of eating dead animals. Eating meat is simply not a necessity any longer, hence it is more a normative debate. If you do, however, want to look at the positive facts about the impact of allocating energy for feeding livestock and such, then the case for vegetarianism becomes all the more compelling.
Chocosha 2 months ago
I mean i just think farm factories shouldnt abuse animals before they die . They should at least give animals a peaceful death :/ they shouldnt treat them like shit x.x
SkyXLinex 2 months ago
May I point out that yes indeed biologically we are omnivorous, but that it doesn't matter becuase whether we can eat meat has nothing to do with the moral permissibility of eating meat? It's biologically safe yes, but morally unjustifiable.
MichaelSizer 2 months ago
@MichaelSizer Let me tell you something plants are living things and you kill them to eat them so its morally unjustifiable as well.
holypie987 2 months ago
@holypie987 And let me tell you something. Of course plants are living things. Do you honestly think i've never thought of that? They're not conscious beings though, so they don't experience harm. The only moral duty we have toward them is indirect (such as in the case where we deplete them to the point of harming an ecosystem upon which conscious creatures depend.)
MichaelSizer 2 months ago
I never said that humans weren't omnivores. Stop generalising.
darkgoth122596 2 months ago
You guys should check out the book 80/10/10. It discusses how humans are different than meat eaters and similar to plant eaters. I think humans can eat fish, but due to pollution in our modern world, that isn't a good option anymore
hatestheastroturf 2 months ago
Here are 3 things wrong with your argument. 1st, we DO have hair ALL OVER OUR BODIES. All mammals (carnivore, omnivore, or herbivore) have fur, so it can't apply.
Second, we should NOT eat everything and it is VERY smart to stick to a group. Example: It's unhealthy to eat wood, or dust, or metal. So, we can't eat "Everything".
And third, while they did work out more (no cars, lol) their diet only included meat when their was no vegetables or fruit available (ex: winter/famine/frost) <3
TheWinterWaterSong 3 months ago
@TheWinterWaterSong "1st, we DO have hair ALL OVER OUR BODIES" Yes we have hair (but less hair then when we were apes)
"2nd, we should NOT eat everything ... Example: It's unhealthy to eat wood, or dust, or metal." ... Did he really have to say this??? but yes we eat plant matter just not tree wood and we do need iron (a metal) in our diets along with other metals.
3rd, while they did work out more it included meat when their was no vegetables ... And yet they ate meat ... Humans are Omnivores
VallartaPete 2 months ago
@VallartaPete 1. What's your point? Wheither we have more or less hair isn't the debate here. Horses, Tigers, Apes all have hair. Being an Omnivore, Carnivore, or Herbivore has nothing to do with it.
2. I stand corrected (score 1 for you) we do eat metals such as Iron, Calcium, ect.
3. Score 2 for you. I see we're Omnivores in the sense that we CAN eat meat. Wheither it's as healthy as it's cracked up to be is a different matter and therefore can't apply here.
I'm still Vegan though ^_^
TheWinterWaterSong 2 months ago
@TheWinterWaterSong Just one answer for you.
1. "I'm still a Vegan though ^_^"
BOOM! 1 years of being an omnivores has been denied. (or more if you finally become a veggies at your adult's age) While your were still a baby you were drinking MILKS and probably after you grown up you started to eat MEATS until you became a veggies.
Also. If were herbivore then eating MEATS will kill us instead giving us nutrients. Plus we have the knowledge and P-R-E-D-A-T-O-R eyes. Which makes us OMNIVORE.
PlushGallade 2 months ago
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I'm with Chuck! After decades of intensive study of the evolution and origins of man and ape, Charles Darwin, who founded the principle of evolution, concluded 100% that man is in fact an herbivore.
~ If you knew what I knew, you'd be vegan too!
FathomlessJoy 3 months ago
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Do meat eaters feel guilty about eating meat? /watch?v=MzXlsTKndGA
haridham 3 months ago
we go vegitarian... it dosent hurt anybody.. thats fine.. you dont go veg.. you kill innocent animals.. thats NOT fine..
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW Oh please. Humas have been killing for food since the dawn of time. If an animal has to die so my kid can it that is PERFECTLY FINE.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 back then, we needed meat, we didint know how to grow anything and we followed the herds around.. that was necessity. now that we are more advanced, we can make soy and other beans and vegetables taste like any meat,but we mass produce these animals still... its killing them, its making us fat and killing us.. yet you still feed it to your children and yourself.... thats not fine.... zombie
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW Oh get a fucking life. I eat meat but I am far from fat nor am I a walking skeleton like you. We eat meat because we need meat point blank. I'm an omnivore just like our primate cousins. You can base your diet off of compasion all you want. That's your right. So let me get back to lighting my grill for some tasty deer steaks.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 dont get mad at me, people like you cant even admit that what your doing is wrong, and i didint call you fat, i said that people who eat that are more likely to have heart disease, and be fat, and im not a walking skeleton.. im healthy as can be. and if it were so natural, then why dont we have natural hunting skills, night vision, sharp teeth like dogs, ect. and also meat eaters like wolves and dogs have very short intestines why dont we.? have been healthy for 4 years with no meat.
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW We have something called a brain. So instead of developing claws, huge fangs, speed we developed tools and teamwork. The human brain would not be what it is today if it were not for hunting. Humans have been hunting ever since we were able to draw on cave walls. Eating meat is nothing new, but vegitarianism is. My diet is natural because I can survive in the wild if need be and would not have to suppliment my diet with B12 pills or protein shakes like you.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 like i said it was nessesity back then, its not now, and i have NEVER taken a b12 pill or a protein shake, i get everything i need from rice, beans, fruits vegetables, nuts.. and if meat is SOOOOO natural... how come if you dont eat it for a while... then eat it, you get very ill.. that dosent happen with vegetables and fruits.. and rice and things like that..i could survive perfect in the wild....and i do.
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW Yes, Ive been vegetarian all my life. No need for b12 nor do i like protein. Check out this video. /watch?v=MzXlsTKndGA
haridham 3 months ago
@haridham i have been vegitarian for 4 years and vegan for 2. and thanks man :)
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
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haridham 3 months ago
@haridham yea i will man . peace
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW Oh you are so full of crap. You don not get sick from eating meat after you have been away from it a while. Do you know how many peopl have tried the vegan diet for a year then went back with no issues? Yea you may be healthy now, but lack of B12 and protein will cause you health problems when you get older.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 its the honest truth.. i didnt eat meat for about 2 years, then acedentally ate some in some soup. i got phisically sick and was regergitating, and sick for that night and the next day. and i am not the only vegan who this has happened to. and i get plenty of protein and B12 from my diet. my parents make me go to the doctor regularly to make sure of that.. and he agrees that everything is perfectly fine.
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW It sounds too me like your body just wasnt used too, which is perfectly normal. If you were to start slowly introducing meat into your diet again it wouldnt happen. But I remember the same thing happend to me when I started to switch to healthier diets.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@DeathMetal4Ever1 yea, but that was the poin i was trying to make to him, all i was saying is that if it so natural to us why would have to get used to it. and thanks, but im not going to start eating meat.. im a vegan till death :)
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW Well you being getting sick from the meat doesnt mean meat isn't natural, I got sick from adding more vegetables to my diet, since my stomach wasnt used to me eating so many.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW You accidently ate some meat and got sick. That is total bullshit. Humans are meant to eat and have eaten meat since the dawn of time. Eating meat is nothing new. It's not like someone went around the world and taught us that we can eat meat. Every culture on earth eats meat because that is the natural thing to do. Especially if you live in an area where you have drastic climate changes and cant eat plants during winter.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 its not bullshit.. i live with an entire family who eats meat.. it bound to happen that i accedentally eat something with meat it in.. shit happenes. and like i said im not the only person who that has happened to, it will make you sick. and really.. since the begginning of time huh, so humans were eating meat before humans were around.. makes a lot of sence.. im trying really hard not to be rude.. not that i can say the same about you.
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@loveandpeaceFTW Dude, you probably didn't even get sick until you realized that you ate a little bit of meat. So basically it is in your head. Predators including humans have eyes more in the front to aid in hunting. While vegitarian animals have them more on the sides to watch for predators.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 it was in soup that my mom gave mei ate it and lie 20 min later i was throwing upthen i went and lookedin the soup and soundsome chicken. lots of vegans have had the same thing where their bodys arntused to eating the meat or something like that.and monkeys are vegitarians,im not denying the fact thatour ansestors ate meat and huntedbut that was their way of surviving,im saying now we have ways of making food from soyand theres no need tomass produce animals in the way that we do now
loveandpeaceFTW 3 months ago
@askingalot How come your video did not make any valid points?
Im kinda disappointed, I thought the video was called "The Vegans are wrong..."
Dude you have not made any solid points, nor did you prove anything about the human species, sorry man but this video is just a waste of zero's and one's
Truly Scientific people would tell you, the enzymes produced in our saliva are specially for decomposing plant matter, not meat, nor is our intestines the proper size for meat eaters, thus you are wrong
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty
"Truly Scientific people would tell you, the enzymes produced in our saliva are specially for decomposing plant matter, not meat"
The same Truly Scientific people would also tell you, the hydrochloric acid in our stomach is specially for decomposing meat, not plant matter, thus you are wrong too.
JackFook 3 months ago
@JackFook lol that is not true, just because small micro amounts of hydro chloric acids are made does not mean its for meat! lol because scientist already concluded monkeys are our ancestor and monkeys do not eat meat, none in any appreciable amounts,thus you are incorrect sir! Then put in the amount of useless acids you accumulate while eating meats, probably another reason meat eaters get disease quicker and cant remove the accumulated harmful radical in those acids. anyway im glad im correct!
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
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@itsadeadmansparty
"scientist already concluded monkeys are our ancestor and monkeys do not eat meat, none in any appreciable amounts,thus you are incorrect sir!"
Which scientists are you referring to, sir? We have to see for ourselves, you understand. Your word is not enough, you understand. We don't know who you are or if you're telling the truth, you understand.
JackFook 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty
"just because small micro amounts of hydro chloric acids are made does not mean its for meat!"
How much HCl is made is irrelevant. Humans can't digest plant fiber, therefore whatever amount of HCl the stomach does secrete must be for meat.
JackFook 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Monkeys are not our ancestors. We share a common ancestor, yes, but we are not descended from monkeys. And plus our closest relative the chimp eats meat. So the better genetic argument is for being an omnivore...
bl91978 3 months ago
@bl91978 Chimps do not eat meat, unless you mean small bugs, they eat fruit from trees, not meat
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty you are wrong., Chimps Regularly Wage *war* on other Groups of chimps Killing the Loosers and eating them. They tend to go for the Youngsters First to prove there Power to the Other group.
coorscowgirl101 3 months ago
@coorscowgirl101 lol sure and pigs can fly
Wage War? Really when earth was full of food enough for almost any mammal to survive,
ya maybe they wage war now that there is no rain forrest and they must fight
but i doubt 300,000 years ago, chimps work as groups to accomplish tasks, wage war is probably environmentally caused not actual chimp behavior
Anyway I really do not believe you that in a world of plenty chimps would fight, if so super rarely,
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Chimps have been fighting other chimps since the dawn of time. Even when the human population was at a tribe level tribes still fought over resources, women, etc. War is as old as life itself.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 Yes I agree Chimps fight one another, I however am stating that if a chimp were to eat another chimp uncooked in the wild they would get sick, The chimp is not meant to eat meat, it is not a source of energy for chimps, when given plenty of land and much room to expand, i doubt fighting need to happen
Its only when the rainforrests are cut down to make land for cows to graze that inefficient waste is produced thus ruining Earth, You must understand we are not built to digest meat
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@southboy99 After you examine the reason humans get cancer and why it is linked directly to fats produced from other animals. They dont want to teach people this as it would devastate the entire production farming which like I said before wastes millions of acres of land to cow production,So since they can not teach normal couples and families eating meat equals a shorter life span. I would also state that if I showed you the horrors of production meat factories you probably would be grossed out
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty LOL the cancer comes from all the pesticides, chemicals, and preservatives the factories put in the meat, not the meat itself. And you say we are not ment to eat meat? Probaby the dumbest comment I have read today, my god what the fuck did they teach you in school.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@DeathMetal4Ever1 These vegan idiots are so full of crap. The one I like to hear is that meat rots in our intestines. I can guarantee you that his shit doesn't smell any better than mine. These fucking idiots.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 I know dude, When I started adding more meat and protein in my diet I lost over 20 pounds. And I cracked up on the last part of your comment LOL there a bunch of braindead morons.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@DeathMetal4Ever1 dont worry deathmetal3ever you may not find what we are saying easily digested, hah nice pun
but needless to say, when your body fails you 40 years too early blame dietary intake and biological equalibrium k
I will be laughing after your long gone and im just stretching out getting ready to kick some ass!
Haha so get with the program you wanna live longer correct?
Help Earth while doing it right?
Probably when you about 72 they will be talking about this on the news, no probs
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty I can assure you I will be healthier than you then, and that I am healthier than you now. Balance and moderation is everything. I eat plenty of vegetables, fruits, nuts etc.. the only meat I eat is lean meat. So your right I guess ill die when Im 40 even though I get plenty of exercise and eat better than you ever will, give me a fucking break.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@DeathMetal4Ever1 actually you are incorrect sir! You have not studied where the cancer COMES FROM, The cancer forms when higher levels of fats from meat derived living animals, and the body would rather go direct to the nutrients in the food, this inefficiency causes the cells to lose energy which it requires to make perfect copies, the body would like to get rid of the incorrect copies, but it cannot remove them quickly when your body has too many animal meat derived oils blocking its way, duh
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. Next thing you vegans are going to tell is that milk and cheese is going to give you cancer. And I would seriously like to know were you got all this information from.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@DeathMetal4Ever1 LOL I got my information from an actual scientific study haha
T. Colin Campbell, Jacob Gould Schurman Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University
Where did you get your information from huh?
You know whats sad is Im giving validated information, from public records but you just cant put 2 & 2 together
You were raised to think eating meat is wonderful for you but your parents didnt know,they didnt even have computers, we are just discovering now about it
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty I know about Colin and his China study, he never says to stop eating meat at all just we need more of a plant based diet and to lay off eggs, dairy etc... So I think I can survive off eating lean chicken my diet is very similar to yours believe it or not, but me being a weight lifter I need the extra protein which I cant get from fruits and vegetables alone. Try not to be so damn butthurt about it.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@DeathMetal4Ever1 BRO All Im SAYIN IS MOFUCKEN SHAOLIN MONKS ONLY EAT PLANTS, BRO AND THEY IS INVENTED KUNG FU
SO ALL IM SAYIN IS, YOU WANNA BREAK SOLID BLOCKS WITH YOUR HAND RIGHT? THEN UPGRADE K
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Im not a shaolin monk and YOU SOUND SMARTER WHEN YOU DONT TYPE IN ALL CAPS.
DeathMetal4Ever1 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Shaolin monks eat meat also. The reason they don't kill animals is because they are Buddist. But they will eat meat if it is offered to them. Anyone can break solid blocks. It's more a form than diet.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 southboy Shaolin Monks only eat Plants, im sorry but you have received incorrect information,
If a monk were to eat meat he would lose his title as Monk, he would forfeit his training as a monk and be rejected from the temple immediately, Monk perform a sworn oath before becoming a monk, Shaolin monks have many traditions that cannot be broken One is not to eat any meat period. That is forbidden or be expelled from Shaolin Temple, so you southboy need to Re-Educate Yourself Sir!
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty My bad, it's the buddish monks that will eat meat from time to time so your right about the Shaolin ones not eating meat. But speaking on education. It is wll documented that Humans in General have eaten meat from the dawn of time. If it were not from the eating of meat many humans living in colder climates would starve to death during long harsh winters. And the Shaolin monks only make up a small perecentage of people on earth. Less than .0050% in fact.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 Listen Southboy, I agree that man survived the Quaternary Ice Age because he consumed meat, I completely agree, but I can also drink poison that doesnt mean its good for me either
Yes man has eaten meat to survive the last ice age,but meat eating will result in a shorter life, and by looking at the human from a scientific aspect and concluding is he omnivore or fruitivore,all science leads to Fruitivore
they cannot teach you this in school because it goes against the established norm
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty The second reason im pointing this out, is environmental, when we cut down rain forrests to make land for grazing cows, we increase the Methane on the planet, Even tho most people who goto burger king are un aware or uneducated enough to know we are hurting the complex balance nature has provided us, not to mention the horrors the animals go through, So I like Earth, I really do, and my research points to Methane as a serious problem, but you wont see this on FOX news
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty They cannot point this out on any news station because it goes against the Established Norm, If we actually educated your children in school they would leave school with a list of inventions on there belt, Southboy the real problem is what your parents and school taught you was not all correct, the school cannot actually give you a unbiased education, they must purposely leave out important events to keep the status quo the same, see politicians are not here to change anything
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty And you don't think more land would be wasted to grow your precious soy beans? If we were all vegitarians, you would have to cut down more rain forrests to creat land to grow your food. At least some of my food comes from free range animals that live IN the woods like deer, turkey, and rabbit that I hunt from time to time. I have a hunting license so basically i'm a conservationsist as well.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 you making a valid point, i dont want to remove people rights to hunt, but obviously we are at a technological state where we can eliminate the need to harm nature anymore. We should build away from nature, literally encapsulate human land, so as it has the optimal carrying capacity, I would attempt to restore earth versus, build anymore factory farm, with a few more years of robotics it wont be far away that almost everything can be synthesized.
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Yes we are at a technological state where we can manufacture food and not harm the environment. But even growing plants for food causes damage to soil, chemical run off etc. So unless you actually live in the wild and hunt and gather your food where it naturally grows, then everyone is to blame.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 I agree with you but we are at that technological step now, not only that there is no utopias just what we can build now, all those problems with chemical run off are solvable too
the design for this was talked about first by a Jacque Fresco, even he points out that natural energy sources properly harnessed could power much of the world.
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty You also know that there are free range farms where they let the animals roam free and feed off grass. Not eating meat will never be the answer to problems.
southboy99 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Get real dude. Vegitarians live no longer than people who are omnivore. And eating meat is not the same as eating poison come on. Humans have always eaten meat. No one taught us, we just did what came naturally. Fruitivore LMAO. If all you did was eat fruit all day you will get fat.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 man has not always eaten meat, and its provable by looking at you physical anatomy/biochemistry
Man was built to eat fruit in the wild, monkey eat fruit all day and they never gain a pound.
Anyway im argueing with somebody who cannot make a point, Everything I said is scientifically proven
If you consume meat, you asking for a shorter life than a vegitarian, you need not believe me, just goto the medical journals and open a book K! read a little and you will learn something dufus!
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty Dude you are an idiot. You can go to Europe and look at cave drawings where is showed early man hunting animals. Neanderthals used tools for hungint like spears, arrows. The American Inidan hunted Buffallo on the American Plain way before any European stepped on this land. You are dilusional my friend. If you want to be a vegitarian then hey good for you. But don't run around screaming were not supposed to eath this or that just because some animals feelings.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 bro your not actually hearing what im saying, because we already covered this point a little earlier, Yes ancient man hunted, he needed this skills to survive last ice age, ok but before the ice age, for hundreds of thousands of year man eat fruits in the wild. My arguement is 98% of genetic information is the same as a chimp, and these chimps are eating mainly fruit in the wild, they have zero reason to hunt something larger than itself.
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty And aparantly you have NEVER watched a nature show on discovery...
coorscowgirl101 3 months ago
@bl91978 and yes we do come from Primates, they are our ancestor, 98% of the genes a human has comes from Primates, we are only 2 percent different from all other primates, the changes in our dna may be from extra terrestrials but the origin is Primate, or ancient homonids which were primates first
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
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@bl91978
"So the better genetic argument is for being an omnivore"
That might be true. But archeological evidence for bone composition shows the bulk of our protein (90%+) came from meat, not plants. So the better archeological argument if for being carnivore, not omnivore.
JackFook 3 months ago
@bl91978
And this archeological argument is supported by current evidence on disease, obesity and diet, especially with regard to carbohydrate content: The lower the better. Carbs only come from plants.
JackFook 3 months ago
@JackFook Yeah, the whole idea and clinging to a herbivorous existence is borderline mental illness.
bl91978 3 months ago
@JackFook actually the enzymes produced in our saliva are specific to carbohydrates decomposition not meat, Obviously stomachs work by using "Acids" to help breakdown matter, but trying to claim hydrocloric acid is there it must be for meat, lol is like saying gasoline cars can run on diesel now lol
itsadeadmansparty 3 months ago
@itsadeadmansparty
"enzymes produced in our saliva are specific to carbohydrates"
That's true. The enzyme is called amylase. It breaks down starch into glucose. It doesn't do anything to plant fiber though. Humans can't digest plant fiber. So if the starch is locked inside fiber, amylase is useless.
Do you believe humans _can_ digest plant fiber? If yes, could you give us a reference to support that belief? The info I have says humans _can't_ digest plant fiber. But maybe I'm wrong.
JackFook 3 months ago
@JackFook You are correct. Our bodies can't digest plat finber like herbivores can. We don't have a complex digestive system like a cow or horse to break that stuff down.
southboy99 3 months ago
3. eating meat mainly can cause problems but thats only because those ppl arent getting enough exercise, if one eats meat they need to live a more active lifestyle and exercise a lot if u see the difference between carniovers and herbivores, herbivores sit around eating, carnivores have to move a lot to eat, thats why carnivores getting a lot of energy from meat has the trade off of having to try and catch their prey
kilkolio 3 months ago
@kilkolio
"carnivores have to move a lot to eat, thats why carnivores getting a lot of energy from meat has the trade off of having to try and catch their prey"
Carnivores in the wild don't waste energy. They don't go to the gym. In fact, once they've eaten, they are the laziest mofos on the planet. Until the next meal.
JackFook 3 months ago
1. unlike herbivores we didnt have advanced digestive systems to get the most energy out of a vegetable meal, so we relied on another energy source namely meat which gave tremendous amounts of energy before we discovered how to acquire bread, rice and pasta for instant energy from the carbs, fats/protein give more energy than cellulose
2. 1:22 finally another person who has the same brain levels as i do
kilkolio 3 months ago
@kilkolio
"rice and pasta for instant energy from the carbs, fats/protein give more energy than cellulose"
Protein gives zero energy since we don't use protein for that purpose. Cellulose gives zero energy since humans can't digest it. Carbs are only an instant source of energy because hyperglycemia is toxic. The rest of the time, which is basically all the time once blood glucose comes back down to normal, our energy comes from fat. The bulk of our energy is stored as fat after all.
JackFook 3 months ago
So, do you expect that people live on natural conditions?
argumenteren 3 months ago
Any "balanced" diet is not the diet that humans are supposed to eat.
All balanced diets are flawed.
CBasie2856 3 months ago
@CBasie2856 And are imbalanced diets not flawed...or less flawed?
90Rush 3 months ago
@ Stupid Talking Tree: Who tortures animals? I just put a bullet in their heads no torture at all in that "Bang Flop" they don't even know it happened. I take it you lot want to convert Lyons, Pigs, Sharks, Fish and all the other animals that eat living animals a well - Can I watch I think that would be hilarious to watch! LOL you people crack me up with the way you think! LOL
pissedofffranchisee 3 months ago
@pissedofffranchisee Actually, it's big companies that torture animals. I don't have an issue with eating meat, or raising animal's for meat, it's just the large companies who are using live turkey's for punching bags that I have an issue with, or cows standing in four feet of their own feces. That's what I have an issue with. And, no, actually, I don't want to convert animal's who eat meat, it's life. So, get your facts straight before you run your mouth.
StupidTalkingTree 3 months ago
Spot on! vegans are nothing but pale emaciated imbeciles with low iron levels and a IQ to match!
pissedofffranchisee 3 months ago
naturalistic fallacy
DidierPilon 4 months ago
My brother ate hundreds of bugs so I guess according to PETA, humans are insectivores. (eye roll)
KawaiiKemonomimi 4 months ago
So, you're saying, the only way to be "healthy", is to work out, so, if you eat cookies, cakes, french fries, burgers from fast food places, milk shakes all day, & you work out, that's going to magically keep all of the weight off? It will help, yes, but it's not going to change the side affects of eating so poorly. I do understand where you're coming from, to a point. We as humans, have choices not to have to torture animals, & use them as food, we have better resources then other animals.
StupidTalkingTree 4 months ago
@StupidTalkingTree
This is exactly why some 'vegan preachers' hatred for meat is weird, or unfounded. HFCS is not meat. Sugar is not meat. Gluten is not meat. Most non-meat stuff in SAD are unhealthy. In fact that meat pattie should be the least of their problems, even though it's corn-fed and still bad.
90Rush 3 months ago
Actually, human's are not supposed to eat meat with every meal or even every day. So, if someone wants to be vegetarian or vegan... it's probably a lot healthier than those who eat fast food and junk food multiple times daily.
RinzuRozu 4 months ago
@RinzuRozu Anyone would be healthier than a guy who eats fast food and junk food multiple times daily. Eating lean meat that is grass fed is very healthy.
southboy99 3 months ago
@southboy99 I agree with you, I was merely making a point. I just find it funny that I've been told by someone I was unhealthy for being vegan while they were about to eat a big mac meal :p
RinzuRozu 3 months ago
@RinzuRozu
"they were about to eat a big mac meal"
What does a big mac meal contain besides meat? Potatoes. Grains (corn, wheat, soy, etc). Sugar (table sugar, HFCS). Salt. Hydrogenated vegetable oils.
Maybe the problem is not the meat.
JackFook 3 months ago
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RinzuRozu 3 months ago
@JackFook Lol, okay. You prove to me McDonalds meat is healthier than organic, grain-fed animal meat and I will give you a million dollars. And yeah, thanks for pointing out there are other unhealthy things included in a big mac... really learned something new today~
RinzuRozu 3 months ago
@RinzuRozu
"prove to me McDonalds meat is healthier than organic, grain-fed animal meat"
I didn't say anything like that. Your comparison didn't imply anything like that either. If anything, your comparison suggested that there was something wrong about the meat contained in a big mac meal. I merely pointed out that considering everything else contained in that meal, maybe the problem is not the meat.
JackFook 3 months ago
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@RinzuRozu
"thanks for pointing out there are other unhealthy things included in a big mac"
Your sarcasm suggests that you agree that potatoes, grains, sugar, salt and hydrogenated vegetable oils are bad for humans. Well at least we agree on that.
But consider this. All these things you agree are bad for us, they all come from plants (except salt).
JackFook 3 months ago
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@RinzuRozu
"Actually, human's are not supposed to eat meat with every meal or even every day."
You mean from a physiological point of view? Archeological evidence from bone composition shows the bulk of food for humans is meat, not plants. This means humans are supposed to eat meat at every meal.
JackFook 3 months ago
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RinzuRozu 4 months ago
"Your body needs everything"
needs everything like junk food lol?
CBasie2856 5 months ago
The argument that eating meat is natural is irrelevant. Humans have been killing and raping each other since the beginning of mankind. Does that mean we should continue to do so? NO.
Godinme 5 months ago
@Godinme
"The argument that eating meat is natural is irrelevant. Humans have been killing and raping each other since the beginning of mankind. Does that mean we should continue to do so? NO."
You are confusing natural with traditional. The two are not synonymous. We can have traditions that are unnatural like body transformations using compression techniques for example. We can ignore traditions, but we cannot ignore our nature.
JackFook 3 months ago
I shall host a barbecue one day.
It shall be two of every animal and the whole damn town will be invited.
I just need a really big deep freeze and a source on Elephant meat.
Phalanx3800 5 months ago
At least 5 mistakes before this video ends up ranting at fat people
TheTvrulesthenation 5 months ago
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@KangoeroeSkippy
" For that matter, herbivores do consume meat at times, without that making them carnivores."
They're called, "omnivores".
You clearly have no grasp whatsoever of anatomy or physiology.
NiceGuyCody 5 months ago
Then why dont you eat raw meat...And try to Digest that.....YouR Soo Ignorant
elmo1057 5 months ago
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@elmo1057
"Then why dont you eat raw meat...And try to Digest that"
You mean like sushi, or steak tartare?
Moron.
NiceGuyCody 5 months ago