Have we taken into account, the Wraiths ability to spam Darts?
The Wraiths fighter force is much larger than a Goa'uld's, plus they have Cruisers, not just Hives. That and the wraith Hives are fucking huuuuuuge. Seriously, the Goa'uld's weapons are defunct and obsolete in comparison. I would side with the Wraith in this scenario.
It'd be curious what tactics each side would use. A hive ship is far more powerful than a ha'tak, but according to the Tok'ra map they show the SGC, there are about 10,000 ha'tak, about 50 per hive ship. So the Wraith would, for once, be fighting as the side with superior ships but inferior numbers.
Goa'ulds would definately win, despite their small ships, they are far more agile then the wraith hives and cruisers, and they also have shielding compared to hives ability to regernate.
wraith ships don`t have shields ha`taks have immagine if an apophis mother ship would atack an wraith cruisher o a hive the bout of them would be destroied
No,wraith's hive ships are alot bigger than ha'taks,so i think that a single hive ship could have no problems to defeat about 4-5 ha'taks,then it's different if you talk about Goa'uld's motherships,that have the same design of an ha'tak,but they are bigger,anyway,i think that there are no way to destroy an hive ship without transporting a nuclear warhead inside the ship,like they do almost everytime in the series...
@Arthreas the ori ships were almost impossible to destroy, only weapon "seen" killing a ori mother ship is the new asgard laserbeam thingy, i do not think the wraith would have won any battle vs the ori, sins even a Tau.ri ship can defeat a wraith one.
@w4rd4n not againts the zpm powered hive, since the chinese x303 and the apollo couldnt even damage it, and the asgard death ray is way more powerfull than the ori fat ray, but the ori would have better sheilds.
Was there actually a battle between the Goa'uld and the Wraith? I keep seeing clips of videos I've seen before in this one that have nothing to do with the video... I don't think there ever was a battle, considering that the Wraith only came to our galaxy for a short time before being destroyed. There is no way that the wraith could have fought with the Goa'uld while they were here...
the wraith beat the pegasus galaxy ancients, how can you expect the goa'uld with their obsolete technology and dogmatic thinking to even have a chance
@zzxcvb98 Stealth, Guerrilla tactics, and aggressive fighting. The Ancients only lost because they were outnumbered and refused to bring the fight to the wraith.
I think a single wraith cruiser against a single gould hatak would win. Gould motherships aren't really that powerful anymore. I am a bit curious about Ori Motherships against Wraith ships.
Ha'tak motherships at this point are pretty much useless and not a threat anymore. Although in Stargate Universe, they seem to have become stronger. That or the Earth ships suck.
about ori motherships vs wraith ships though it would be a total massacre seeing as ori beam weapons are pretty close damage wise to the 304 asgard beams which shred hives in a few shots
It seems Goauld Symbiotes can take over Adria's mind. Her mind must've been extremely power considering she's a very advanced human created by the Ori.
i agree with sirkissalot06 the goa'uld could just implant lets say a queen and bassically take control of that hive. then the queen (goa'uld symbiote) could just order her men to attack the other hives when the goa'uld fleet gets there. so Goa'uld is who i am picking. anybody else agree?
I think the goa'uld would win, they have thousands of motherships, and say one mothership=1 cruiser, then they have the flagships like Apophis' one, which equals one hive, then super ships like Anubis' one, which is the same as about 3 hives and their escorts with its super weapon, not to mention Goa'uld could easily capture and implant a high ranking wraith. And the Goa'uld could easily send a cloaked cargoship with a squad of kull warriors into a hive ship, come back in a couple of days, done.
@richyboy12 Really, if you wanted to be all precise, it should be something like Ancients, then ori / replicators (Since they're both on ancient tech, but ancient were original so they're probably superior) Then it would be asguard, then Human, ofcourse human are all over the place, because humans have some ancient tech, some asguard, some of their own, and some ga'ould
I think it's more like this based on power factor: 1. ZPM Hive 2. City ship 3. Anubis's mothership w/ superweapon 4. Daedalus class w/ upgrades 5. Ori mothership & Aurora (the victor of these two is debatable) 6. O'Neill class 7. Hive ship 8. Traveler ship (apparently they can take on drones) 9. Puddle Jumper 10. Anubis ha'tak Just my personal top ten based on power. Some ships such as the Grace ship and the Destiny have unknown capabilities so they may deserve a place here, its just uncertain.
the goauld are the sh it if the universe XD, if you look the ships of the new seasons, the hataks and the others ships sucks, the tauri, asgards, ori, ancients, wraith all win the ships of the goulds XD, maybe a jumper can kill a mothership goauld XDXD
there is a lot more hives that 60 todd had in his aliance in se4ep11 12 hives and hes no powerful and part of a small aliance...lol there could be kinda like 100 hives and 60 hatak ther was 30 hatak in the batel over dakara
wraith will win,, they dont need to feed tbh. their battleships are much better, remember they took out the ancients coz of numbers,, they could easily do that to the goauld. and the ancients coz take out the guaould with around 3 battleships.. coz they are so powerful. goauld have no stratergy,, wraith will win.
You cant just think that the humans will let them have a little war of their own? ^^ if they have a chance to throw in some nukes on both wraith and goa'uld they will^^
the goa-uld are arogant and power hungry and dont cooperate with eachother and kill themself and therse kinda like a hole lot more than 60 hives 10 000 years ago they defeted the ancients and wraith have the virus they used on dudleaus after the sige and clonig facility. and they did not ned shields becose the have thik hull and they never designed any becose the ancients had drones that could penetrate shields like anubis shipand dont forget michel that could spred the plauge and create hybrids
watch the season 1 atlantis episodes, there are only 60 hive-ships. 10 cruisers per hive is a good estimate. Wraith fight each other just like goa'uld. Goa'uld super-soldiers will beat any wraith on ground fight
Thank, i actually didnt pay attention to that part. Bt if you go to th stargate wiki, in the hive-ship file at te en it says there are an estimated 60 Hives in he galaxy, not part of the galaxy. 3 crisers per hive ship sounds right, but i exagerrated the number to 10 per hive to show that goa'uldwuld still win.
Yes but wiki's can be edited by any tom dick and harry. (No offense anyone here who is called tom, richard or harry.)
The show cant be changed, plus, the wiki goes on info from the show. I watched that episode many times before coming to prove this point, and Mckay clearly states that there are 60 hive ships in that part of pegasus.
What would happen if a Wraith was to take the life of a Ori? They are ancients, would that Wraith take on their powers or what kind of effect do you think would happen?
A wraith wouldhave trouble feeding on a jaffa during battle due to the jaffa's armor (finally it serves a purpose) and if a wraith tries to feed on a host, the symbiote could jump from thehuman to the wraith taking control of the wraith. So i say goa'uld would win long-term figt because they would eventually tak over the wraith hives.
I think not, First off the armor DOES NOT protect them from Wraith feeding. That is laughable. 2nd if the host dies the symbiote dies. 3rd the Goa'uld "if" they decided to take the Wratih as a host would kill other Goa'uld to feed. The Wraith Technology is far superior to anything the Goa'uld has anyhow. Only way Humans ended up beating Wraith at Earth was becuase Atlantis came and with Wraith help.
Well in order to feed, th wraith needs to put his han on the jaffa's chest, theres a lot of armor there. the wraith needs to take the armor off. in the heat of battle this gives the jaffa moretime to shoot te wraith. goa'uldand wrait have similar tech levels if anythin goa'uld is higher (hyperdrives). Also earth needed to use acient tech to beat goa'uld too, (anubis attack). A goa'uld wraith would not have to feed on goa'uld itwoldjust feed on humans. all pointsrefuted, goa'uld still win.
Watch "common ground", the genii put just a little bit of metal on a wraiths hand and bang he can't feed because his hand can't directly touch john's chest. Jaffa armor does th same thing, just its around the jaffa not on th wraits hand.
I think a goa'uld can control a wraith despite the wraith's mental strength. Ba'al was able to control adria who was much stronger than any wraith. So a goa'uld would be able to control a wraith.
@drendor goa'uld in a wraith....its like a parasite in another parasite >.>
i think the wraith would just eat the goa'uld when it gets inside or if not well... the goa'wraith will have .....what does super fast regeneration+faster regeneration=?
Even excluding Anubis's flagship according to the atlantis team the wraith only have about 60 hiveships. If each hive ships has 10 cruisers (high-guess since it seems each hiveship has 3 cruisers but im being generous to wraith), then there are 600 cruisers. There are 10000 goa'uld motherships. Do the math: thats 166 goa'uld motherships per hiveship+10 cruisers. Wraith don't stand a chance. On ground kull warriors are immune to stunners and goa'uld can control wraith.
Okay, lets say 1 hatak=1cruiser, there would still b 150 hataks for 1 hive ship. The hive-ships are tough but it would be totally outmatched. anyway, goa'uld and wraith wouldn't figh each other, ga'uld would take control of wraith to make ultimate bad-guys. plus daedulus without asgard lasers crippled a hive-ship in no man's land.
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Cough Cough* are you guys idiot's??? Goa'uld have no chance against the wraith ... i mean for gods sake the wraith even managed to whipe out the ancients with their cool tech... why dont you start using your heads for once??
honestly the goa'uld would have won. For the fact alone that two of their mother ships had a super weapon and not to mention the sheer size and numbers they have. The wraith would be wiped out.
Goa'uld would win easily. There are 10,000 goa'uld motherships vs 60 wraith hive ships. thats about 166 motherships per hive-ship. The hive-ships are tough, but not that tough. Kull warriors would be immune to wraith stunners. Plus goa'uld could control wraith with symbiotes.
Goa'uld Advantages: -Numbers (According to Jacob's map, over 10,000 motherships) -Shield technology -Often deploy larger land forces than the Wraith -Dakara and Anubis superweapons assuming they're still around. -Symbiont spies Wraith Advantages: -Larger ships with (likely) more powerful weapons -Hull regeneration -Soldiers harder to kill -ZPM Hiveships ridiculously hard to kill I'd give a long-term battle to the Goa'uld unless the Wraith bring in some ZPM-Hives, then the Goa'uld are screwed
I think that the SGC should have called in some favors when the "super" wraith hive was on the way to earth. Like asking the Jaffa counsel to sent some ships to defend earth since the deadales class ships were damaged and unable to make it to earth. At least that way everyone could have enjoy a sweet battle before Atantis showed up. But, that probably would have opened up a whole new bitch fest since it wasn't a normal wraith ship the jaffa were fighting.
The strength of the Goa'uld are the Jaffa. All the wraith have to do is take life from the Jaffa and return it, then convince the Jaffa taht Goa'uld are false gods and the Wraith are true gods (especially since it's harder to kill a wraith. Jaffa join wraith, wipe out Goa'uld, then control the galaxy. Ancient replicators are useless since they usually need specific directives, that is, until they evolve, so yeh, they win temporarily, until a solution is found. (Like Dakara weapon, etc)
3 facts, wraith would be too many, then if goauld simbiont would try to take wraith host, i think wraith mind would be too strong, and yes anubis would lose first battles, lost other system lords but war would be his in the end!
even if you did combine all them IONX94 the ancients were the most advanced and the other tech would be obsolete so the ancient replicators would win no doubt
You are all wrong! the ultimate enemy of the stargate universe would be a goa'uld within a wraith who has been infected with nanites which would be a goa'uld wraith replikator?and then combine thei ships take the replikators drones and shielding take the wraith weaponry and organic ship materials and use the goa'uld staffcannon batteries plus the ship teleportation gate! thats the most ultimate enemy! and lets say that the wraith figured out a way to make sam carters ARW useless against nanites.
the replicators could beat anyone cause all they need to do is have one spder replicator thing get on a wraith ship and they could replicate a whole army and i doubt the wraith guns can affect thing
yeah wraith would win, but goauld were still far better villains. At least every once in a while you got one that was cool and pretty original. The wraith TRY to be all badass, but deep down they're little pansies.
I would have to agree with you on everything. The Goa'uld are nothing more then parasites, they don't really advance in technology where the Wraith does, so the Wraith would win.
As for villains though the Goa'uld are much more evil. They're original, each System Lord is different and they don't justify their actions. They're like,
"Yeah, we're the assholes of the universe. What the fuck are you going to do about it, meatbag?"
awsome i dont watch sg but id say wrath the egyptians have had the same ships for like forever and wrath ships are grown ie much faster build than a gou old pyramid
In space the Goa'uld would probably win. They would just have to cloak an Armada of ships. Then wait for the Warith to engage the other ships then uncloak and attack from the rear. Causing the Wraith to divide their forces to confront both fleets. Beside the Goa'uld have more ships then the Wraith.
Yes they indeed did beat the Ancients however only because they had more of themselves form cloning, Ancients won every battle but could not win the war...
im pretty sure the wraith would win, sure there ships dont have shields but the hive ship is so big and its hull is so strong it takes the asgard beam to destroy it, plus a hiveship has much greater fire power then a goa uld ship, maybe Anubis would win against wraith :D
and since a standard nuke blows a wraith hiveship skyhigh a singel blast from a Ha'tac would wreck havoc aboard the hive. not to mention the sheer number of Ha'tacs there are about 60 hiveships in the Pegasus galaxy acrodinly to SGA season 1, and mid season 8 of SG1 there are atleast 100 Ha'tacs fighting echother over a single planet (Dakara) while there are hundreds of more fighting the replicators.
The Goa'uld only lose to the wraith because they are arrogant and stupid.
technologicly (bad english) the goa'uld are way more advanced. E.G. sheilds the wraith have no sheild and thier ships are very fragile (relavtively speaking) the average Ha'tac blast is about 2 meagtons in strength acordinly to SG1 and i do belive that the wraith have weaponary in the same grade, however last episode of season 1 (SG1) a Ha'tac is hit by a naquadha inhanced nuke and it didn't even damage thier sheilds
From all "enemies" in StarGate I prefer wraith (and Russians, of course, that is understandable :-) - but IMHO Goa'uld are looking quite stupid and cannot play political games, so their way of fighting for domination is looking poor... Wraith - YES, they are not medieval dreamers.
The Wraith would own the Goa'uld. The Goa'uld had absolutely ridiculous strategies, whereas the Wraith are still half-smart. The Goa'uld were just arrogant morons lol, except for Ba'al. The Wraith can still think on their feet.
because of the size of waith ships you need highly powerful weopons and that would drain over time hay tak vessles dont carry those type of weopons for large warships and the explosive effect will wipe out the haytak sheilds in one shot
they should just let the wraith go to our galaxy and let the ori and asgaurd fight them.... that would be a sick show to watch, atlantis has lost its touch in the show go back to startgate sg1
you know the asgard are gone? ok not complete but they havent eaven a single ship that can fight anymore and the wraith are as powerfull as the acients (hope spell it right) what them make as powerfull as the ori as well not to mention the ZPM powerd Super Hive that could easyli wipe out anithing in the universe
Thor, Freyr, Hermiod, Viser, Loki, they're all dead, yes. but not the Asgard that fled to Pegasus 10,000 years ago, and have been hiding ever since. rewatch season 5 episode The Lost Tribe.
actually the Goa-uld are much more powerful than the Wraith. the Ori are more powerful than the Goa-uld. the only reason that the Wraith beat the Ancients was because they have about 4 galaxies worth in numbers.ground combat the Wraith would be alright untill the Death Gliders were done killing all the Darts and just bombed the hell outta the Wraith. the Ori would just send their Army Of Anti-Jesus' down and probably kill anyone but SG-1.
And I say it's a gross exaggeration. Four galaxies worth of people? They possessed about 60 Hive ships, each can carry several thousand Wraith.. and a large number of those ships were destroyed during the course of the series. Thus they technically are fewer in numbers than Humans in Pegasus. They never had the numbers he described, not even in the war against the Ancients when they needed cloning facilities to help maintain their number and overcome huge losses.
Why are people glorifying Hive ships...? It's not like the Ha'tak's were useless, especially the ones deployed by Anubis. Not to mention, whats stopping Goa'uld from taking over Wraith bodies?
Actually, anubis' big huge ship was the same size as a wraith hive ship and Goa'uld regular ships are the same size as the ancient weapons satelite, and i remember that the Goa'uld, in Ball and Anubis' time, had over a thousand ships out there so, wraith would put up one hell of a fight, but ultimately lose
yea i agree that a regular goauld mothership would get its butt kicked by the wraith... but dont forget that anubis used his ancient knowledge to upgrade his ships....one of theships upgraded by anubis took out an asgard ship if i remember correctly
Come on A goaul'd Ha'taak mothership wouldnt stand stand much of a change against a wraith hive ship! I think it would take at least a half dozen ships to have a change against a hive! Shit it would take two or three ha'taaks just to beat a wraith cruiser. not to mention the hundreds of dart fighters.
one way or another only one ship will destroy the goauld its the ZPM Powered Hive Ship with inpenetrable outer hull and it nearly destroyed atlantis so say good bye to the goauld
What episode did you get the film from at 1:20?
Dunno8310 4 months ago
the wraith cant win the goa'uld are gods
lasthope20 5 months ago
the wraith beat the anchients because of vast numbers
lasthope20 5 months ago
ANCHIENTS VS WRAITH oh nvm we already know how that ends and if the anchients couldn't beat the wraith than you know the ghoulde couldn't
verbic96 6 months ago
The super hive in the last episode of atlantis could kick the whole goa'uls fleets ass.
kingen411 6 months ago
I would be an Ancient.
cazaret 6 months ago
if any one here has played halo, wouldnt it be cool if the covenent got involved with the wraith, ori and goa'uld and stargate sg1 and atlantis?
MHappyglobal 6 months ago
the most kick ass thing would be an a goa'uld take a ori wraith host, that would be a badass combo.
MHappyglobal 6 months ago
@MHappyglobal How does a ori wratih work is it a wraith prior or just a wraith ori worshipper?
kingen411 6 months ago
The victor would be whomever could convince the SGC to side with them. Ancient blood FTW!
seraphimra 9 months ago
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JohananRaatz 11 months ago
Have we taken into account, the Wraiths ability to spam Darts?
The Wraiths fighter force is much larger than a Goa'uld's, plus they have Cruisers, not just Hives. That and the wraith Hives are fucking huuuuuuge. Seriously, the Goa'uld's weapons are defunct and obsolete in comparison. I would side with the Wraith in this scenario.
Oricalkos123 11 months ago
It'd be curious what tactics each side would use. A hive ship is far more powerful than a ha'tak, but according to the Tok'ra map they show the SGC, there are about 10,000 ha'tak, about 50 per hive ship. So the Wraith would, for once, be fighting as the side with superior ships but inferior numbers.
CobaltX07 1 year ago
Goa'ulds would definately win, despite their small ships, they are far more agile then the wraith hives and cruisers, and they also have shielding compared to hives ability to regernate.
hiimjenki2 1 year ago
fuck the wraith
godzillaraul 1 year ago
With Ba'al and Todd as the respective commanders.
Meshakhad 1 year ago
Wraith would win, no question
Mbarnes3381 1 year ago 2
That would be a fucking bloodbath.
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JohananRaatz 1 year ago
If only this could actually happen...Goa'uld vs. Wraith...I'll take a slice of THAT action!
MorganOfTheAncients 1 year ago
If wraiths fed upon Jaffa/Goa'uld then they'd probably have like 3 times more likfe to suck...
thatguywithnoname 1 year ago
wraith ships don`t have shields ha`taks have immagine if an apophis mother ship would atack an wraith cruisher o a hive the bout of them would be destroied
stargateedy 1 year ago
No,wraith's hive ships are alot bigger than ha'taks,so i think that a single hive ship could have no problems to defeat about 4-5 ha'taks,then it's different if you talk about Goa'uld's motherships,that have the same design of an ha'tak,but they are bigger,anyway,i think that there are no way to destroy an hive ship without transporting a nuclear warhead inside the ship,like they do almost everytime in the series...
Gogesv2 1 year ago
¡Cool video! I love it >__< ¿Wich is the second song?
AyaHoro 1 year ago
how is name the first
song???
heruvimRocker 1 year ago
my favorite gould is anubis so awesome
warslego123 1 year ago
Is this true or fake? Goauld vs Wraith? big llllllooooolllllllll
But if ists true it would be awesome
freezehands 1 year ago
Well, Adria's a human. The Goa'uld may not be able to control a Wraith.
SG14ever 1 year ago
thats right. then the goauld will get to their ra xD
SGdaniel1 1 year ago
Ori Ship vs. Wraith
The Wraith open the fire. The ori-shild hold.
them the ori shot with their weapen and boom one basic-ship is down :D
SGdaniel1 1 year ago
@SGdaniel1 that whont hapen when the super hive comes...
thedarkpitlord 1 year ago
@SGdaniel1 And then 5 more Hive ships come. and then 5 more. and then 10 cruisers. the Ori will be outnumbered. just like the ancients were.
Arthreas 1 year ago
@Arthreas the ori ships were almost impossible to destroy, only weapon "seen" killing a ori mother ship is the new asgard laserbeam thingy, i do not think the wraith would have won any battle vs the ori, sins even a Tau.ri ship can defeat a wraith one.
w4rd4n 1 year ago
@w4rd4n not againts the zpm powered hive, since the chinese x303 and the apollo couldnt even damage it, and the asgard death ray is way more powerfull than the ori fat ray, but the ori would have better sheilds.
SmopuiM 1 year ago
Was there actually a battle between the Goa'uld and the Wraith? I keep seeing clips of videos I've seen before in this one that have nothing to do with the video... I don't think there ever was a battle, considering that the Wraith only came to our galaxy for a short time before being destroyed. There is no way that the wraith could have fought with the Goa'uld while they were here...
killercheese101 1 year ago
the ori will beat them all
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JohananRaatz 1 year ago
how would a symbiote even have a chance to infect a wraith queen when shes in a hive and surrounded by wraith warriors...
zzxcvb98 1 year ago
@zzxcvb98 They have their ways.
Arthreas 1 year ago
the wraith beat the pegasus galaxy ancients, how can you expect the goa'uld with their obsolete technology and dogmatic thinking to even have a chance
zzxcvb98 1 year ago
@zzxcvb98 Stealth, Guerrilla tactics, and aggressive fighting. The Ancients only lost because they were outnumbered and refused to bring the fight to the wraith.
Arthreas 1 year ago
I think a single wraith cruiser against a single gould hatak would win. Gould motherships aren't really that powerful anymore. I am a bit curious about Ori Motherships against Wraith ships.
Generalkidd 1 year ago
@Generalkidd The ORI wuld CRUSH the Wraith EASILY.
roser811 1 year ago
@Generalkidd Anubis's Mother ship wuld Destroy a Army of Wraith Ships.
roser811 1 year ago
however the ha'tak would beat the cruiser imo
it has shields and 60 staff cannons
zzxcvb98 1 year ago
Ha'tak motherships at this point are pretty much useless and not a threat anymore. Although in Stargate Universe, they seem to have become stronger. That or the Earth ships suck.
Generalkidd 1 year ago
thats true
about ori motherships vs wraith ships though it would be a total massacre seeing as ori beam weapons are pretty close damage wise to the 304 asgard beams which shred hives in a few shots
zzxcvb98 1 year ago
@zzxcvb98 Yeah... but then 3 More hive ships come. Ori will be outnumbered. just like the Ancients were
Arthreas 1 year ago
@Generalkidd We only saw Ha'tak Mother ships for 1 episode. and for only a few seconds. Or... were they in more episodes?
Arthreas 1 year ago
@Arthreas a Ha'rak mother ship is seen in almost every episode of stargate sg1
if you are refearing to apophis' fleet ship or whatever its seen quite often too.
w4rd4n 1 year ago
Yes, The Ori Will Destroy Them All
azymail 1 year ago
Goau'd symboite take a wriath queen? no way - queens mind would be too strong.
richyboy12 2 years ago
It seems Goauld Symbiotes can take over Adria's mind. Her mind must've been extremely power considering she's a very advanced human created by the Ori.
Generalkidd 1 year ago 5
the symbiote can take control of adria mind and shes very close to assencion
so i reckon they could after all the wriath are bugs wouldnt the matrch be similar
xygthophase4 1 year ago
Thedarkpitlord was wrong.there was only 60hive ships left when the tau'ri-wraith war began.
45581rty 2 years ago
60 that they know of....
richyboy12 2 years ago
muf321 2 years ago
i agree with sirkissalot06 the goa'uld could just implant lets say a queen and bassically take control of that hive. then the queen (goa'uld symbiote) could just order her men to attack the other hives when the goa'uld fleet gets there. so Goa'uld is who i am picking. anybody else agree?
halofr3eak2234 2 years ago 4
I think the goa'uld would win, they have thousands of motherships, and say one mothership=1 cruiser, then they have the flagships like Apophis' one, which equals one hive, then super ships like Anubis' one, which is the same as about 3 hives and their escorts with its super weapon, not to mention Goa'uld could easily capture and implant a high ranking wraith. And the Goa'uld could easily send a cloaked cargoship with a squad of kull warriors into a hive ship, come back in a couple of days, done.
SirKillsalot06 2 years ago
Très bon travail
Nutella60200 2 years ago
All i can say is that Goa'uld (back in their hay-day) vs Wraith would be an Epic War...
since back before the downfall... the Goa'uld probably had way more than 10,000 ships...
10,000 being the number of the depleted goa'uld force under one stand alone (sole) system lord (Anubis/ Ba'al)
the number might go up to a million... who knows...
but if they don't win...
one thing's for sure...
they'll sure give the wraith one hell of a run for their money!
BinLadenMustDie368 2 years ago
richyboy12 2 years ago
@richyboy12
U forgot aurora class
And its wrong our ships are now better then Anubis' mothership
And the travelers?....
doldol1 2 years ago
doldol1 yeah i know.... Still the Anubis ship got on the list for "cool" factor :D
And Ori motherships too... wonder if theres an offical "ranking system" based on technology
richyboy12 2 years ago
@richyboy12 Oh kk xD I just said it just to make things clear for everyone
doldol1 2 years ago
@richyboy12 Really, if you wanted to be all precise, it should be something like Ancients, then ori / replicators (Since they're both on ancient tech, but ancient were original so they're probably superior) Then it would be asguard, then Human, ofcourse human are all over the place, because humans have some ancient tech, some asguard, some of their own, and some ga'ould
Hunock 2 years ago
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what about the superhive?
Sirumakato 2 years ago
no no, the BC304 is 2nd on that list.
daralzand 2 years ago
you just pulled that list out of your ass
lowgrade84 2 years ago
you forgot the superhive.
Sirumakato 2 years ago
and u forgot prometheus and superhive that nerly trashed atlantis and sg1 replicator ship and ori.
thedarkpitlord 2 years ago
CobaltX07 2 years ago
the goauld are the sh it if the universe XD, if you look the ships of the new seasons, the hataks and the others ships sucks, the tauri, asgards, ori, ancients, wraith all win the ships of the goulds XD, maybe a jumper can kill a mothership goauld XDXD
sesshomaru2005 2 years ago
well if it was all stargate ships they would win
or jack on the lost city
magna497 2 years ago
there is a lot more hives that 60 todd had in his aliance in se4ep11 12 hives and hes no powerful and part of a small aliance...lol there could be kinda like 100 hives and 60 hatak ther was 30 hatak in the batel over dakara
thedarkpitlord 2 years ago
wraith will win,, they dont need to feed tbh. their battleships are much better, remember they took out the ancients coz of numbers,, they could easily do that to the goauld. and the ancients coz take out the guaould with around 3 battleships.. coz they are so powerful. goauld have no stratergy,, wraith will win.
SASenglish 2 years ago
You cant just think that the humans will let them have a little war of their own? ^^ if they have a chance to throw in some nukes on both wraith and goa'uld they will^^
IONX94 2 years ago 2
Could anything be more fake?
muodypl2 2 years ago
the goa-uld are arogant and power hungry and dont cooperate with eachother and kill themself and therse kinda like a hole lot more than 60 hives 10 000 years ago they defeted the ancients and wraith have the virus they used on dudleaus after the sige and clonig facility. and they did not ned shields becose the have thik hull and they never designed any becose the ancients had drones that could penetrate shields like anubis shipand dont forget michel that could spred the plauge and create hybrids
thedarkpitlord 2 years ago
watch the season 1 atlantis episodes, there are only 60 hive-ships. 10 cruisers per hive is a good estimate. Wraith fight each other just like goa'uld. Goa'uld super-soldiers will beat any wraith on ground fight
muf321 2 years ago
Im not having a go at you, but if you watch the episode he says there are 60 hive ships, and i quote 'In this part of the pegasus galaxy'
There are an onknown number of hive ships and each hive ship can 'carry' 3 cruisers (Docking clamps on sides)
Yes I'm an SG Geek and im proud of it.
HarakMolova 2 years ago
Thank, i actually didnt pay attention to that part. Bt if you go to th stargate wiki, in the hive-ship file at te en it says there are an estimated 60 Hives in he galaxy, not part of the galaxy. 3 crisers per hive ship sounds right, but i exagerrated the number to 10 per hive to show that goa'uldwuld still win.
PS: im a SG geek too
muf321 2 years ago
Yes but wiki's can be edited by any tom dick and harry. (No offense anyone here who is called tom, richard or harry.)
The show cant be changed, plus, the wiki goes on info from the show. I watched that episode many times before coming to prove this point, and Mckay clearly states that there are 60 hive ships in that part of pegasus.
PS: SG FTW
HarakMolova 2 years ago
Transcrpt from "Underground" ending
GRODIN: But we were able to ascertain the existence of twenty-one Wraith hive ships just in our quadrant of the Pegasus galaxy alone.
SHEPPARD: Twenty-one?!
GRODIN: And there are indications of far more elsewhere in Pegasus.
SHEPPARD: How many more?
GRODIN: Well, there's no way of knowing for sure. Perhaps sixty, or more.
SHEPPARD: That's a lot of ships.
So there are 21 hives near atl, and 60 other one (about) for a grand total of 80. Goa'uld still win.
muf321 2 years ago
The Goa'uld was defeted by primitave human technology. They would not hold up to the Wraith.
The1Unmarkable 2 years ago
Another thing to consider: The Wraith were at war with the Ancients, the Goa'uld are after them and with out the technology.
The1Unmarkable 2 years ago
What would happen if a Wraith was to take the life of a Ori? They are ancients, would that Wraith take on their powers or what kind of effect do you think would happen?
The1Unmarkable 2 years ago
no way, all the wraith would have to do is beam them or get close enough to consume them. the Goa'uld are just a species in a human host.
The1Unmarkable 2 years ago
A wraith wouldhave trouble feeding on a jaffa during battle due to the jaffa's armor (finally it serves a purpose) and if a wraith tries to feed on a host, the symbiote could jump from thehuman to the wraith taking control of the wraith. So i say goa'uld would win long-term figt because they would eventually tak over the wraith hives.
muf321 2 years ago
I think not, First off the armor DOES NOT protect them from Wraith feeding. That is laughable. 2nd if the host dies the symbiote dies. 3rd the Goa'uld "if" they decided to take the Wratih as a host would kill other Goa'uld to feed. The Wraith Technology is far superior to anything the Goa'uld has anyhow. Only way Humans ended up beating Wraith at Earth was becuase Atlantis came and with Wraith help.
The1Unmarkable 2 years ago
Well in order to feed, th wraith needs to put his han on the jaffa's chest, theres a lot of armor there. the wraith needs to take the armor off. in the heat of battle this gives the jaffa moretime to shoot te wraith. goa'uldand wrait have similar tech levels if anythin goa'uld is higher (hyperdrives). Also earth needed to use acient tech to beat goa'uld too, (anubis attack). A goa'uld wraith would not have to feed on goa'uld itwoldjust feed on humans. all pointsrefuted, goa'uld still win.
muf321 2 years ago
seriously? your kidding right? amor doesnt stop them from feeding. if that was true then every1 the wraith fought would be running around in armor.
The1Unmarkable 2 years ago
Watch "common ground", the genii put just a little bit of metal on a wraiths hand and bang he can't feed because his hand can't directly touch john's chest. Jaffa armor does th same thing, just its around the jaffa not on th wraits hand.
muf321 2 years ago
I think a goa'uld can control a wraith despite the wraith's mental strength. Ba'al was able to control adria who was much stronger than any wraith. So a goa'uld would be able to control a wraith.
muf321 2 years ago
Well if i was a Goa'uld i would do everything to get a Wraith as host. then i'd prolly manage to be a "greater" false god ;)
drendor 2 years ago 20
@drendor goa'uld in a wraith....its like a parasite in another parasite >.>
i think the wraith would just eat the goa'uld when it gets inside or if not well... the goa'wraith will have .....what does super fast regeneration+faster regeneration=?
DeadScarab 1 year ago
Even excluding Anubis's flagship according to the atlantis team the wraith only have about 60 hiveships. If each hive ships has 10 cruisers (high-guess since it seems each hiveship has 3 cruisers but im being generous to wraith), then there are 600 cruisers. There are 10000 goa'uld motherships. Do the math: thats 166 goa'uld motherships per hiveship+10 cruisers. Wraith don't stand a chance. On ground kull warriors are immune to stunners and goa'uld can control wraith.
muf321 2 years ago
yes, but the human ships overpower the goauld ships and before the asgaard weapons the wraith ships were superior. do the logic. even fight
jamiewhincup 2 years ago
Okay, lets say 1 hatak=1cruiser, there would still b 150 hataks for 1 hive ship. The hive-ships are tough but it would be totally outmatched. anyway, goa'uld and wraith wouldn't figh each other, ga'uld would take control of wraith to make ultimate bad-guys. plus daedulus without asgard lasers crippled a hive-ship in no man's land.
muf321 2 years ago
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o.o i think wraiths would kick goauld ass. they defeated the ancients people!!!
goauld ships have shields, true but they soo weak i dont think it would make a difference.
reddeathfox1993 2 years ago
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Cough Cough* are you guys idiot's??? Goa'uld have no chance against the wraith ... i mean for gods sake the wraith even managed to whipe out the ancients with their cool tech... why dont you start using your heads for once??
LeoXRomanu 2 years ago
honestly the goa'uld would have won. For the fact alone that two of their mother ships had a super weapon and not to mention the sheer size and numbers they have. The wraith would be wiped out.
dugasw 2 years ago 4
Goa'uld would win easily. There are 10,000 goa'uld motherships vs 60 wraith hive ships. thats about 166 motherships per hive-ship. The hive-ships are tough, but not that tough. Kull warriors would be immune to wraith stunners. Plus goa'uld could control wraith with symbiotes.
muf321 2 years ago 2
Wraith Goa'uld would be hardcore
Boneyman 2 years ago 19
@Boneyman
Checklist:
Immortal - Check
Damn near invincible - Check
Wraith tech + Goa'uld Tech - Check
Mindless Drone Jaffa - Check
Yep, I agree...Wraith'uld = hardcore
Kirhean 1 year ago
CobaltX07 2 years ago 2
I think that the SGC should have called in some favors when the "super" wraith hive was on the way to earth. Like asking the Jaffa counsel to sent some ships to defend earth since the deadales class ships were damaged and unable to make it to earth. At least that way everyone could have enjoy a sweet battle before Atantis showed up. But, that probably would have opened up a whole new bitch fest since it wasn't a normal wraith ship the jaffa were fighting.
bandit15101 2 years ago
the girst two minutes were bad (scenes and music cuts) but after 2:00 it is well
Ultrabenbooyah 2 years ago
The strength of the Goa'uld are the Jaffa. All the wraith have to do is take life from the Jaffa and return it, then convince the Jaffa taht Goa'uld are false gods and the Wraith are true gods (especially since it's harder to kill a wraith. Jaffa join wraith, wipe out Goa'uld, then control the galaxy. Ancient replicators are useless since they usually need specific directives, that is, until they evolve, so yeh, they win temporarily, until a solution is found. (Like Dakara weapon, etc)
LuminusX 2 years ago
3 facts, wraith would be too many, then if goauld simbiont would try to take wraith host, i think wraith mind would be too strong, and yes anubis would lose first battles, lost other system lords but war would be his in the end!
atlantean84 2 years ago
i think the wraith could have destryed the goa'uld
ssjn4vegeta 2 years ago
even if you did combine all them IONX94 the ancients were the most advanced and the other tech would be obsolete so the ancient replicators would win no doubt
drac50 2 years ago
No doubt the wraith would win due to their great numbers. The Goa'uld would be outnumbert 1000:1.
larsblom 2 years ago
It would depend on which Goa'uld was ''leading'' the conflict.
If it was Apophis, he'd be screwed...but Anubis had all those nice toys. the Half ascended bastard child would defeat the Wraith.
CGren123 2 years ago
You are all wrong! the ultimate enemy of the stargate universe would be a goa'uld within a wraith who has been infected with nanites which would be a goa'uld wraith replikator?and then combine thei ships take the replikators drones and shielding take the wraith weaponry and organic ship materials and use the goa'uld staffcannon batteries plus the ship teleportation gate! thats the most ultimate enemy! and lets say that the wraith figured out a way to make sam carters ARW useless against nanites.
IONX94 2 years ago 2
the nanites would kill the goauld as its a parasite and the nanitrs repair the body so the goauld would be killed the moment it was infected
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
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what who? lol
SPONSIBLE 2 years ago
How about a goa'uld infected Ori Prior. that would be a lethat combination. even a Wraith would be no match for that.
FENIXBLADE 2 years ago
Ba'al in a wraith body... the would be ehem ... bad... + he's very intelligent
LeoXRomanu 2 years ago 2
what if a goulod possesd a wraith
Seetherfanv1 2 years ago
that would be freaky but totally awesome
lilthoene18 2 years ago
it be like, a god like vampire!
Seetherfanv1 2 years ago 2
i bet the replicaters could beat the wraith
critic659 2 years ago
the replicators could beat anyone cause all they need to do is have one spder replicator thing get on a wraith ship and they could replicate a whole army and i doubt the wraith guns can affect thing
GearsOfWarGod345 2 years ago
Would't the Wraith just suck the life out of it's host?
Gravoid13 2 years ago
i want to see a goa'uld wraith... that would be ...really interesting
rhwerkman 2 years ago
yeah i totally agree a wriath as a host would provide a much stronger host
and with the gould regernative abiltys with the sarcophagus would mean one ultimate bad guy
xygthophase4 2 years ago
yeah wraith would win, but goauld were still far better villains. At least every once in a while you got one that was cool and pretty original. The wraith TRY to be all badass, but deep down they're little pansies.
Jarsia 2 years ago
@Jarasia
I would have to agree with you on everything. The Goa'uld are nothing more then parasites, they don't really advance in technology where the Wraith does, so the Wraith would win.
As for villains though the Goa'uld are much more evil. They're original, each System Lord is different and they don't justify their actions. They're like,
"Yeah, we're the assholes of the universe. What the fuck are you going to do about it, meatbag?"
That's why I love the Goa'uld as the villains!!
rotnem07825 2 years ago
Exactly, while the wraith go around hissing, looking like douche bags trying to seem threatening, but really just coming across as pathetic.
Jarsia 2 years ago
awsome i dont watch sg but id say wrath the egyptians have had the same ships for like forever and wrath ships are grown ie much faster build than a gou old pyramid
CnCGman 2 years ago
ever wondered what would happen if a wraith fed upon a human with a Goa'uld symbiote or or if the wraith fed upon a jaffa?!
voniak289 2 years ago
the wraith would win because they are more advanced, better ships and theyre not lil bitches saying that there gods.
piggykiller77 2 years ago
In space the Goa'uld would probably win. They would just have to cloak an Armada of ships. Then wait for the Warith to engage the other ships then uncloak and attack from the rear. Causing the Wraith to divide their forces to confront both fleets. Beside the Goa'uld have more ships then the Wraith.
Cyclonus84 2 years ago
4 words... THEY BEAT THE ANCIENTS
goa'uld wouldn't stand a chance. remember a hive ship can take the Daedalus (before the beam weapons that is) and it has Asgard shields.
bark00000 2 years ago
Yes they indeed did beat the Ancients however only because they had more of themselves form cloning, Ancients won every battle but could not win the war...
TroyRiver92 2 years ago
im pretty sure the wraith would win, sure there ships dont have shields but the hive ship is so big and its hull is so strong it takes the asgard beam to destroy it, plus a hiveship has much greater fire power then a goa uld ship, maybe Anubis would win against wraith :D
masterchief454 2 years ago
What's the song?
SG14ever 2 years ago
Indeed.
d4rklqrdnem3sys 2 years ago
lol fake shit
kingen411 2 years ago
Sorry for my bad english. hope you read my comments
TheErik1103 2 years ago
however the wraith darts have alot more firepower and moverabilety, and a bigger number then the Goa'uld death gliders
the wraith harvester are effective when taking people of food, transport on the other hand, Ring transport owns the harvester by far
TheErik1103 2 years ago
and since a standard nuke blows a wraith hiveship skyhigh a singel blast from a Ha'tac would wreck havoc aboard the hive. not to mention the sheer number of Ha'tacs there are about 60 hiveships in the Pegasus galaxy acrodinly to SGA season 1, and mid season 8 of SG1 there are atleast 100 Ha'tacs fighting echother over a single planet (Dakara) while there are hundreds of more fighting the replicators.
TheErik1103 2 years ago
The Goa'uld only lose to the wraith because they are arrogant and stupid.
technologicly (bad english) the goa'uld are way more advanced. E.G. sheilds the wraith have no sheild and thier ships are very fragile (relavtively speaking) the average Ha'tac blast is about 2 meagtons in strength acordinly to SG1 and i do belive that the wraith have weaponary in the same grade, however last episode of season 1 (SG1) a Ha'tac is hit by a naquadha inhanced nuke and it didn't even damage thier sheilds
TheErik1103 2 years ago
From all "enemies" in StarGate I prefer wraith (and Russians, of course, that is understandable :-) - but IMHO Goa'uld are looking quite stupid and cannot play political games, so their way of fighting for domination is looking poor... Wraith - YES, they are not medieval dreamers.
Darja08 2 years ago
which episode the clip from 2:08 is from
tyedgy 2 years ago
yea the wraith would kill the goa'uld with ease...the wraith got huge numbers of darts and a super ship:D
kingsukkelnoob 2 years ago
anubis.end game for the wraith
rightwingnutjob2 2 years ago
The Wraith would own the Goa'uld. The Goa'uld had absolutely ridiculous strategies, whereas the Wraith are still half-smart. The Goa'uld were just arrogant morons lol, except for Ba'al. The Wraith can still think on their feet.
StarshipPoopers1 2 years ago
ye i agree lol
50LightSabersInAPack 2 years ago
because of the size of waith ships you need highly powerful weopons and that would drain over time hay tak vessles dont carry those type of weopons for large warships and the explosive effect will wipe out the haytak sheilds in one shot
skycaprob 2 years ago
they should just let the wraith go to our galaxy and let the ori and asgaurd fight them.... that would be a sick show to watch, atlantis has lost its touch in the show go back to startgate sg1
400hp92awdTALON 2 years ago
you know the asgard are gone? ok not complete but they havent eaven a single ship that can fight anymore and the wraith are as powerfull as the acients (hope spell it right) what them make as powerfull as the ori as well not to mention the ZPM powerd Super Hive that could easyli wipe out anithing in the universe
KoutaSeto 2 years ago
The asguard have been extinct since the last episode of sg-1.
zealot256 2 years ago
Thor, Freyr, Hermiod, Viser, Loki, they're all dead, yes. but not the Asgard that fled to Pegasus 10,000 years ago, and have been hiding ever since. rewatch season 5 episode The Lost Tribe.
gettotheGate 2 years ago
nope watch some of the final episodes of atlantis some evil asguard survived :P
jago1877 2 years ago
1:asgard do have ships but not many(probably only about a dozen)
2:its spelt ancients
3:the wraith are nowhere near as powerful as the ancients
4:the zpm hive could not take on an ori ship as the ori shields are practically limitless in power
angrykid616 2 years ago
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jago1877 2 years ago
im guessing you mean they beat the ancients
but that would be due to outnumbering them heavily
angrykid616 2 years ago
actually the Goa-uld are much more powerful than the Wraith. the Ori are more powerful than the Goa-uld. the only reason that the Wraith beat the Ancients was because they have about 4 galaxies worth in numbers.ground combat the Wraith would be alright untill the Death Gliders were done killing all the Darts and just bombed the hell outta the Wraith. the Ori would just send their Army Of Anti-Jesus' down and probably kill anyone but SG-1.
InsaneMentalist 2 years ago
ur an idiot the wraith control 1 galaxy not 4 and are much more advanced and this vid sucks ass
wwwlllsssjjj 2 years ago
ur an idiot for not reading his comment correctly, he said the wraith have about as much wraith as 4 galaxys worth of ppl all together.
DeadlyAssassin19 2 years ago
And I say it's a gross exaggeration. Four galaxies worth of people? They possessed about 60 Hive ships, each can carry several thousand Wraith.. and a large number of those ships were destroyed during the course of the series. Thus they technically are fewer in numbers than Humans in Pegasus. They never had the numbers he described, not even in the war against the Ancients when they needed cloning facilities to help maintain their number and overcome huge losses.
Cordar 2 years ago
Why are people glorifying Hive ships...? It's not like the Ha'tak's were useless, especially the ones deployed by Anubis. Not to mention, whats stopping Goa'uld from taking over Wraith bodies?
Dwakey 2 years ago 2
Because Hive ships are organic... And organic space ships = awesome.
Solonum1nfected 2 years ago
Like species 8472 in Star Trek Voyager. :D
zealot256 2 years ago
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You have a lot of time to loose to build a fake story with these olds tapes.
4terminator 3 years ago
you too, coming here to see it and posting a comment to let him know u don't like the video.. :)
PensieroCritico 3 years ago 6
Actually, anubis' big huge ship was the same size as a wraith hive ship and Goa'uld regular ships are the same size as the ancient weapons satelite, and i remember that the Goa'uld, in Ball and Anubis' time, had over a thousand ships out there so, wraith would put up one hell of a fight, but ultimately lose
SirKillsalot06 3 years ago 2
yer but they got those mass breeding machines so u never know plus the wraith can eat the jaffa
GROUNDON150 2 years ago 3
Heru'ur went out like a punk
Darroth 3 years ago
Thou shalt be punk (to Tealc) shall go out like such
MetroPetro93 3 years ago
what is the music in last part?
Zarrov 3 years ago
I think its from universe at war
ZeroCGR2 2 years ago
yea i agree that a regular goauld mothership would get its butt kicked by the wraith... but dont forget that anubis used his ancient knowledge to upgrade his ships....one of theships upgraded by anubis took out an asgard ship if i remember correctly
hpsly35 3 years ago 2
Come on A goaul'd Ha'taak mothership wouldnt stand stand much of a change against a wraith hive ship! I think it would take at least a half dozen ships to have a change against a hive! Shit it would take two or three ha'taaks just to beat a wraith cruiser. not to mention the hundreds of dart fighters.
TheLightningKing 3 years ago 2
one way or another only one ship will destroy the goauld its the ZPM Powered Hive Ship with inpenetrable outer hull and it nearly destroyed atlantis so say good bye to the goauld
omegafreak2008 3 years ago 2