@peacebuntou hi peace, thanks for the comment. The area of linguistics is somewhat contentious and varies from website to website etc Anuta as you note is actually part of the Tongic branch. What you noted is actually known as the traditional classification branch and now described as flawed. That is changing to using more accurate data rather than using linguistic alone, using DNA genetic Polymorphism to identify the Pacific migration which makes more sense.
@ ceciliasuka,,,Atafu's external relations are reaffirmed with collections from archeological work by Best, S and Addison, D. as recently in 2008.
In light of the meaning of what it means ongoing research is being carried out but 2 are notable..Historically sacrifices were offered to the the sun and 2nd solstice bearing with the sun in conjunction with wind compass...connection to Vava'u via stopping ports in Samoa (Malie/Aleipata) & area around Leone in Am Samoa & Manu'a.
please note that the link here with Tikopia was part of a history with the original inhabitants from Atafu, later settled by my ancestors from Nukunonu and Fakaofo and transferring of title to Tui Tokelau on Fakaofo. The lineage of Kava to Fafie (also known as Wahie on other Islands) to Tonuia was a family consisting of navigators. Its extension included Luaniua Ontong Java, Nukumanu, south to Tonga and westward to Pukapuka
Great news! If more donations are needed for medicines and other medical supply, I`d become a regular supporter. Can`t donate much for I don´t have much, but I would do it on a monthly base and try to find more supporters. :-)
@MartinaBC19 thanks for you help, as you know any contribution is always very helpful and I have posted pictures of Klaus voyage on a chartered boat with German doctors to help out the community on both Tikopia and Anuta. I have posted pics on my facebook page Tulano Toloa, add me should you wish to view them. Thanks again.
@tulano@MartinaBC19 Hi there, Am Solomon Islander, previuosly lived in Kiel, now residing in Hamburg. I came across your comments to Tulano regarding Solomon Islands outer islands, Tikopia and Anuta.I will follow up on the development of your Interest with others. I have friends living on those two Islands mentioned, though, myself from another part of the Solomon Islands. Will check facebook soon!
@MartinaBC19 yes they do and klaus hypendahl did a lot of work to make sure it did and he also recently visited Anuta & Tikopia with more medical supplies on a chartered boat.
@MartinaBC19 Hi there, Am Solomon Islander, previuosly lived in Kiel, now residing in Hamburg. I came across your comments to Tulano regarding Solomon Islands outer islands, Tikopia and Anuta.I will follow up on the development of your Interest with others. I have friends living on those two Islands mentioned, though, myself from another part of the Solomon Islands. Will check facebook soon!
tui hatafu is tui manua brother son tui atua , Tui manua son Tui Tonga so Tui Tonga is Tui haAtafu coz THE TUI FAMILY START IN TUITUILA MANUA NAME AFTERT TUI MANUA THE FIRST TUI KING HE SON TUI TONGA THE FIRST KING OF TONGA THE TUI FAMILY RULED THE PACIFIC .IN SAMOA HISTORY NO KING RULED SAMOA KOZ TUI FAMILY WERE SAMOA OR THE MOA FAMILY
@thesamoansifi thanks for your input. As we know the extension of Tui's was an exchange of political centers around western & Central Polynesia...etc Tui Manu'a. The list of Tui Tonga is known to start from Ahoeitu 38 lineages to the last TuiTga Laufilittonga. Science is contributing a lot to the area and is providing invaluable information with archeological work done in Tokelau to provide evidence with links to Manu'a. But happy to know about your source (Tui Atafu is Tui Tonga)
There are many small islands in the Solomons and PNG that have Polynesian settlements. Yes its in the Melanesian area, but the people are Polynesians. Rotuma is another island , Anuta, Tikopia and Ontung Java(sp....etc.Polynesians were superb navigators able to settle these vast distant islands. These islands are called Polyneisan Outliers. islands outside of the traditional Polynesian triangle.
hamogunjafarmer : thanks for your post as there was a navigator on a canoe so is God on ours.
Writings by people like Sharp and to some extent Geraghty who uses phonology in trying to decipher linked pasts is hard to fathom. Geraghty's constant citing of himself in his work on "Pulotu Polynesian Homeland"
is a site for sore eyes using actual directions NE or West etc we know is incorrect because early writers did not understand mosaic directions of the Polynesian
been a while but i think when posting remarks I dont want to be biased about what I say which is why I like to see links which are provided with scientific evidence.
Please read: In Search of Lapita and Polynesian Plainware Settlements in Vava'u by David Burley. This relates to: Ethnology of Uvea; published by Bernice Bishop Museum - Bulletin 145 p.36 Tokelau brothers Tua and Fafie and Tua's son Laufilitonga who is buried at the Mua tombs in Tongatapu. relation to Manu'a wil list soon
@EllaRoux You are not even look like the Solomon natives.You are still part of the Poly Family that happened to be so big and one island could not hold ALL of the families together, therefore there had to be some voyages and explores to find new opprtunities & islands.And that was how we went so far from each other and the original language started to change since our ancestor could not write to keepa record but they somehow manage to keep some of them by mouth going from generations to another.
The Tongans ruled the Pacific in the days and took some of his warriors and place them in places like this, Tokelau Hawaii to the very north called Vaihi(Far Distance). The king at the time was Tu'i Ha'atafu as these people are saying.
In Tongan intrepretation it says: Tokua koe tangata na'e folau mai mei he motu ko Tikopia ki Tokelau pea ko ho no hingoa ko Tu'i Ha'atafu and so on........
No doubting the Tongans vast influence in the Pacific, could you let me know what lineage Tui Ha'atafu is from....which Island...was he a part of the Tui Tonga lineage? But as for Tui Atafu...there may well be a connection with Tonga which is what I am reseaching..but Tui Atafu is known by Manu'a to come from Tokelau. But let me know about the information u have on Tui HaaAtafu in Tongan history and possible sources which exist, I am very interested to know. God bless
@FOTOFOTA where does it says TONGA ruled the pacific.....
we no very well tonga have a HA'ATAFU,but what the man is saying is TUI ATAFU from ATAFU TOKELAU......im also doing a reseach of the islands thanks to tulano he put this video on youtube......tai ni.................
Have added new video clip discussion with Taumako Chief descendants of original Atafu people & canoe outriggers of Pacific. Ongoing research undertaken.
humalia....i am from kapingamarangi(lost polynesia) i can relate and understand this laguage. it is where i belief the descendents of my poeple come from is samoa ,tokelau.... very interesting thank you
wow, this is kind've freaky though! Im like "omg, I know what he'ss saying" ... I showed my parents and they were AMAZED. Im tokelauan by the way. Wow, Tokes voyaging into Melanesia and keeping their language and culture alive for possibly centuries... Anymore video's??
Totally agree with all the below comments. At first i thought it was a joke until i did some of my own research. its truly amazing how i can understand this man speak. Tokelau and Tikopia language is very much the same, Thanks for posting this clip
Wow....!, good to know about the historical link between the Solomon Islands Tikopians and the pepople of Tekelau. We know the language and cultures are pretty much the same ....! We need to strengthen this bond. Long live...!
peacebuntou 4 months ago
@peacebuntou hi peace, thanks for the comment. The area of linguistics is somewhat contentious and varies from website to website etc Anuta as you note is actually part of the Tongic branch. What you noted is actually known as the traditional classification branch and now described as flawed. That is changing to using more accurate data rather than using linguistic alone, using DNA genetic Polymorphism to identify the Pacific migration which makes more sense.
tulano 4 months ago
@ ceciliasuka,,,Atafu's external relations are reaffirmed with collections from archeological work by Best, S and Addison, D. as recently in 2008.
In light of the meaning of what it means ongoing research is being carried out but 2 are notable..Historically sacrifices were offered to the the sun and 2nd solstice bearing with the sun in conjunction with wind compass...connection to Vava'u via stopping ports in Samoa (Malie/Aleipata) & area around Leone in Am Samoa & Manu'a.
tulano 8 months ago
what does Atafu mean? I'm from the village of Atu'u in Tutuila and that is the slang name for our village that i've always heard while growing up
ceciliasuka 8 months ago
please note that the link here with Tikopia was part of a history with the original inhabitants from Atafu, later settled by my ancestors from Nukunonu and Fakaofo and transferring of title to Tui Tokelau on Fakaofo. The lineage of Kava to Fafie (also known as Wahie on other Islands) to Tonuia was a family consisting of navigators. Its extension included Luaniua Ontong Java, Nukumanu, south to Tonga and westward to Pukapuka
tulano 9 months ago
Great news! If more donations are needed for medicines and other medical supply, I`d become a regular supporter. Can`t donate much for I don´t have much, but I would do it on a monthly base and try to find more supporters. :-)
MartinaBC19 11 months ago
@MartinaBC19 thanks for you help, as you know any contribution is always very helpful and I have posted pictures of Klaus voyage on a chartered boat with German doctors to help out the community on both Tikopia and Anuta. I have posted pics on my facebook page Tulano Toloa, add me should you wish to view them. Thanks again.
tulano 11 months ago 2
@tulano I found you on Facebook. And foudn already 3 more supporters here in Germany, among my friends. Will look out for more. Many greetings!
Martina
MartinaBC19 11 months ago
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@tulano @MartinaBC19 Hi there, Am Solomon Islander, previuosly lived in Kiel, now residing in Hamburg. I came across your comments to Tulano regarding Solomon Islands outer islands, Tikopia and Anuta.I will follow up on the development of your Interest with others. I have friends living on those two Islands mentioned, though, myself from another part of the Solomon Islands. Will check facebook soon!
niguaeli 1 month ago
@niguaeli Then maybe we can communicate. Kiel is not far from Hamburg. I will write you a private message with my email address and telephone number.
MartinaBC19 1 month ago
Has Tikopia finally got a a health care center or station?
MartinaBC19 11 months ago
@MartinaBC19 yes they do and klaus hypendahl did a lot of work to make sure it did and he also recently visited Anuta & Tikopia with more medical supplies on a chartered boat.
tulano 11 months ago
@MartinaBC19 Hi there, Am Solomon Islander, previuosly lived in Kiel, now residing in Hamburg. I came across your comments to Tulano regarding Solomon Islands outer islands, Tikopia and Anuta.I will follow up on the development of your Interest with others. I have friends living on those two Islands mentioned, though, myself from another part of the Solomon Islands. Will check facebook soon!
niguaeli 1 month ago
tui hatafu is tui manua brother son tui atua , Tui manua son Tui Tonga so Tui Tonga is Tui haAtafu coz THE TUI FAMILY START IN TUITUILA MANUA NAME AFTERT TUI MANUA THE FIRST TUI KING HE SON TUI TONGA THE FIRST KING OF TONGA THE TUI FAMILY RULED THE PACIFIC .IN SAMOA HISTORY NO KING RULED SAMOA KOZ TUI FAMILY WERE SAMOA OR THE MOA FAMILY
thesamoansifi 1 year ago
@thesamoansifi thanks for your input. As we know the extension of Tui's was an exchange of political centers around western & Central Polynesia...etc Tui Manu'a. The list of Tui Tonga is known to start from Ahoeitu 38 lineages to the last TuiTga Laufilittonga. Science is contributing a lot to the area and is providing invaluable information with archeological work done in Tokelau to provide evidence with links to Manu'a. But happy to know about your source (Tui Atafu is Tui Tonga)
tulano 1 year ago
There are many small islands in the Solomons and PNG that have Polynesian settlements. Yes its in the Melanesian area, but the people are Polynesians. Rotuma is another island , Anuta, Tikopia and Ontung Java(sp....etc.Polynesians were superb navigators able to settle these vast distant islands. These islands are called Polyneisan Outliers. islands outside of the traditional Polynesian triangle.
hamogunjafarmer 1 year ago
hamogunjafarmer : thanks for your post as there was a navigator on a canoe so is God on ours.
Writings by people like Sharp and to some extent Geraghty who uses phonology in trying to decipher linked pasts is hard to fathom. Geraghty's constant citing of himself in his work on "Pulotu Polynesian Homeland"
is a site for sore eyes using actual directions NE or West etc we know is incorrect because early writers did not understand mosaic directions of the Polynesian
tulano 1 year ago
@fotofota tuku e loi haha.
Brownsuka1 1 year ago
been a while but i think when posting remarks I dont want to be biased about what I say which is why I like to see links which are provided with scientific evidence.
Please read: In Search of Lapita and Polynesian Plainware Settlements in Vava'u by David Burley. This relates to: Ethnology of Uvea; published by Bernice Bishop Museum - Bulletin 145 p.36 Tokelau brothers Tua and Fafie and Tua's son Laufilitonga who is buried at the Mua tombs in Tongatapu. relation to Manu'a wil list soon
tulano 1 year ago
ko ai te igoa ote tama? lol
oldskuwluva 1 year ago
lapita voyage org
tulano 1 year ago
tokelausciencewebsite for those of u interested in science
tulano 1 year ago
first we originated from the Solomon's, then we originated from Africa ?
and now we originated from Tonga ?
wth....we are our own people!
tokelau taku pele..e moe ai te loto x
EllaRoux 1 year ago
@EllaRoux You are not even look like the Solomon natives.You are still part of the Poly Family that happened to be so big and one island could not hold ALL of the families together, therefore there had to be some voyages and explores to find new opprtunities & islands.And that was how we went so far from each other and the original language started to change since our ancestor could not write to keepa record but they somehow manage to keep some of them by mouth going from generations to another.
FOTOFOTA 1 year ago
@EllaRoux lol, you tell em sista.
FALUBWA 1 year ago
The Tongans ruled the Pacific in the days and took some of his warriors and place them in places like this, Tokelau Hawaii to the very north called Vaihi(Far Distance). The king at the time was Tu'i Ha'atafu as these people are saying.
In Tongan intrepretation it says: Tokua koe tangata na'e folau mai mei he motu ko Tikopia ki Tokelau pea ko ho no hingoa ko Tu'i Ha'atafu and so on........
FOTOFOTA 1 year ago
No doubting the Tongans vast influence in the Pacific, could you let me know what lineage Tui Ha'atafu is from....which Island...was he a part of the Tui Tonga lineage? But as for Tui Atafu...there may well be a connection with Tonga which is what I am reseaching..but Tui Atafu is known by Manu'a to come from Tokelau. But let me know about the information u have on Tui HaaAtafu in Tongan history and possible sources which exist, I am very interested to know. God bless
tulano 1 year ago
@FOTOFOTA where does it says TONGA ruled the pacific.....
we no very well tonga have a HA'ATAFU,but what the man is saying is TUI ATAFU from ATAFU TOKELAU......im also doing a reseach of the islands thanks to tulano he put this video on youtube......tai ni.................
leni875 1 year ago
Have added new video clip discussion with Taumako Chief descendants of original Atafu people & canoe outriggers of Pacific. Ongoing research undertaken.
tulano 1 year ago
humalia....i am from kapingamarangi(lost polynesia) i can relate and understand this laguage. it is where i belief the descendents of my poeple come from is samoa ,tokelau.... very interesting thank you
waihale 1 year ago
a lov dis movie...wow a totaly glad a understan most of da language..lol danx for da movie...lov it want to kno more..
somahine 1 year ago
i'm samoan and am surprised that i can understand a lot of this too.
Rimoken 1 year ago
wow, this is kind've freaky though! Im like "omg, I know what he'ss saying" ... I showed my parents and they were AMAZED. Im tokelauan by the way. Wow, Tokes voyaging into Melanesia and keeping their language and culture alive for possibly centuries... Anymore video's??
SaumaNamo 2 years ago
Totally agree with all the below comments. At first i thought it was a joke until i did some of my own research. its truly amazing how i can understand this man speak. Tokelau and Tikopia language is very much the same, Thanks for posting this clip
freshunderscore 2 years ago
thanks for sharing!!!
lovely to hear how we polynesians can understand eachother's words....
jahblessata 2 years ago
Wow....!, good to know about the historical link between the Solomon Islands Tikopians and the pepople of Tekelau. We know the language and cultures are pretty much the same ....! We need to strengthen this bond. Long live...!
taisie2007 2 years ago
I love this clip. It's amazing how two different countries can understand each other. Post more!!
samafalagudwan 2 years ago