Mr. Tim Hardin was very popular in his day. He sang and wrote from the heart! It is very complimentary to have other accomplished artist like, Mr. Johnny Cash to do a cover recording of his great song! Mr. Bobby Darin even traded songs with him. Ms. Joan Bias, Ms. Dolly Pardon, and more, even recorded! Wow! Writer royalties will come for years to his family! RIP!
@MariposaGirl1981 You can't definitely call it "suicide" just because he overdosed on heroin. It could be the case, but only he would know for sure. More then likely it was simply an occupational hazard.
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I prefer Bobby Darin's version. It was Darin's version that made me seek out Tim Hardin. Darin also did the original "Reason to Believe," and Hardin in turn, recorded Bobby Darin's classic song "Sing A Simple Song of Freedom." What a team. I now enjoy both equally. Elvis Presley was right when he mentioned in an interview that Bobby Darin was one of the most talented singers there ever was. Darin played multiple instruments and seemed able to sing anything effectively.
@SergeantReese Yes, SergeantReese, you're right -- Hardin wrote "Reason to Believe" -- I may not have been clear -- I only meant that Darin covered the song years before other artists recorded it. It appears on Darin's "If I Were A Carpenter" LP on Atlantic 1966. Darin was quite an advocate of Tim's and this LP also has other Hardin songs. The only song Hardin recorded that was written by Bobby Darin & was a minor hit was "Sing a Simple Song of Freedom" -- many think Hardin wrote it.
@dougallsdiscs Yes it is, in a differant way. That's what makes music so great : The diversity ! Both are good but I think this one has more 'white soul' to it.
I haven't heard this tune in years....but, I am not familiar with this 'original' version....I am familiar with Bobby Darin's version...I think this is probably what got more radio airplay....(noticed the 'tinker' line- aren't you sneaky! ;D )....
I still like the best Robert Plant version. His voice is so fragile, almost begging. I'm so sad whenever i hear him. much more broken vulnerable than Hardin (which i love anyway).
@NewWaver80014 thanks I hope Damion knows that his father's songs are God's lullabies and his music runs like a river in his son's veins. Oh sorry, these songs just get me so.........well, you know
@lilackine No problem. :) Although they didn't see much of each other during Tim's lifetime. I think that, musically speaking, Damion is proud of his legacy.
@vuctreppi You obviously right. But for me (and not only for me) this version is the best. Darin did a good job,he composed it. And - without purpose to hurt feelings - Darin's interpretation is soppy,Tim has something broken vulnerable in it's voice..
@namaste91 Tim wrote it. Darin heard a demo and recorded it himself and released his first. Tim's own recording came out a little later. Incidentally Tim's only hit on his own came from "A Simple Song Of Freedom" which was written by Darin but recorded first by Tim.
Yiou have a good point. Bobby Darin did an awesome job...but he did have something to start from....something to build from. Tim Hardin did it from scratch with the sound in his head. That says something. Both great talents...but the talent it takes to write a lasting song is really something to admire.
She has money, he'a talented laborer. Would she miss her colored blouse and her soft shining? (her soft shoes-but creates a hissing sound, simpler to say soft shoe).
@heikkuri Thank you, I actually used to know it as color box, singing in the car back in the 70s or 60s. I let other theories sway me here because I became unsure. I always pictured her like a Renaissance woman in silk, drawing with her colors she kept in a box., and the song could be set in an earlier century, couldn't it.
He's saying "colored blouse", meaning would she mind being poor. RossM3838 below is right, his Woodstock version is weird and emotional. One of my favorite songs. And he was out of his mind at Woodstock, in one scene he babbles on and on about how the Germans and Japanese have made all the vehicles around us. But who cares? EVERYONE in the 60's performed under the influence at one time or another. At Monterey pop everyone was high on Owsley's 'orange sunshine' acid, and they all did great!
@jason75 actually although Tim Hardin wrote the song Bobby Darin recorded it first. Tim's own (this recording) came a little later. A few years later Tim had a hit with Bobby Darin's song Simple Song Of Freedom. Bobby Darin recorded it himself after Tim. In essence they swapped songs. Bobby Darin and Tim became friendly and really helped each other out.
@RossM3838 Furthermore When Tim first heard it it was on a car radio and he thought it was him it sounded so like his version when he realized it was Bobby Darin he was pissed, Bobby years later through Tim a bone with Simple Song of Freedom to sort of make up for it, nothing against Darin A GREAT ENTERTAINER , but facts are facts .
@3831M At Woodstock Tim seems to have come from outer space. He loses his place and has to keep repeating the same chord over and over until he regains it and then uses the chord progression from a different song. He was probably under some substance as he often was. The performance is riviting, emotional and odd.
@RossM3838 You do not know what you are talking about, first of all for anyone who ever saw Tim more than once Hwas a jazz singer and would never sing a song the same twice true he was stoned at Wood stock, but was doing his usual improvising and added a new verse he was working on , Secondly Darin told him he would wait for Tim's version to come out Darin's record company released it early Darin had already heard Tim's version and copied it,
I saw Tim H. perform this song in person so many years ago I can't remember. It was at a night club in San Franciso and Tim was the "warm up" act for Woody Allen. Woody was just getting started at that time.
Hardin was high on drugs and liquor and almost fell off the stage. If he hadn't stumble into the microphone he would have. The crowd booed him.
I loved and still love Tim Hardin. He was a "romantic" so naturally he had to die a tragic death.
what a waste of a good life to heroin, like so many good singers before and after. thank goodness we can still listen to there music today. no matter who sings it, its good to hear. thank you for posting
Thanks for posting this. I've read many comments on other versions that Hardin's is the best. Now I've heard it for myself. It's good but his voice can't compare to Darin's.
Does anyone know what the line "Will you miss your color bars and your soft shoes shining" means? I'm guessing that shoes shining refers to the dust at a mill but what are the color bars?
@meanwiddlekid It's "color box." And the dust from a mill would dull the shine of her shoes. As a lady, she would have an appreciation for refinement. As a working man's wife, she will have to give up a lot of luxuries. The soft, shiny shoes, the color box, which is paints or pastels: fine clothes and elegant pastimes are things he imagines she might miss.
Thank you so much for posting Tim's version which is where all other's come from that is where Bobby Darin got his version, pretty much copied Tim's and released it just before Tim's came out, Eddie Black
Glad you agree. Only heard Tim's version till I googled the words (I cover it on guitar adapting Red Balloon's rhythm taught me by a lady Israeli guitarist.) Darin's has something. Heard Dolly Parton's; Alison Kraus'? Tim's is best . Darin released it before the composer did! Tacky? WithTim's OK? BTW, the "conditional" form "If I were," once standard form for any average educated American, is disappearing. Today, the incorrect usage would be written: If I was a carpenter. Fascinating, huh? - Pam
No it was not with Tim's ok but Darin's management released it befopre they were supposed to Tim heard it on the radio and thought it was his and was very pissed when he found out !
Yes, I'm here because I first heard this in an episode of "The Wonder Years" in 1989 I think.
FarleyTube 1 week ago
Guys I just can t understand these dislikes.... what the f..k is that????
LiborMindala1 2 months ago
@LiborMindala1 what dislikes? I don't see any.
catchersmitt0 3 weeks ago
Mr. Tim Hardin was very popular in his day. He sang and wrote from the heart! It is very complimentary to have other accomplished artist like, Mr. Johnny Cash to do a cover recording of his great song! Mr. Bobby Darin even traded songs with him. Ms. Joan Bias, Ms. Dolly Pardon, and more, even recorded! Wow! Writer royalties will come for years to his family! RIP!
johnnyhuis 3 months ago
@johnnyhuis
He sold his royalties off dirt cheap,so as far as i'm aware,he didn't leave as big a legacy as folk might think....
TheConstellation72 3 weeks ago
Love can looked at in terms of economics. Will a socialite fall in love with a homeless person? If i was a crack dealer
And you were a lady
Would you marry me anyway
and have my crack baby?
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ajweberman 4 months ago
great tune! love the drums. what a shame though, dead @40 from drugs....waste of talent.
sfpalm 5 months ago
how come that 3 little bastards that disliked this song were even born?
HugoPachecoCabral 5 months ago 2
Tim wrote a beautiful song. For a totally different take on this, look up the version by the Small Faces.
lkmits 6 months ago
The original version... and undoubtedly the best version of this song.
MrMeg4life 6 months ago
johnny play it best.mp dk
madscash1 6 months ago
suicide took this talented man 31 yrs ago
MariposaGirl1981 6 months ago
@MariposaGirl1981 You can't definitely call it "suicide" just because he overdosed on heroin. It could be the case, but only he would know for sure. More then likely it was simply an occupational hazard.
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dainha87 7 months ago
Believe it or not my favorite version is by (of all people) Leslie West.
Jonannellejul 8 months ago
who wouldn´t love this classic love song!!!
helithemaddog 9 months ago
It don,t matter recorded this first, this is it.
TheChrisrg 9 months ago
Good video. Thanks my friend. Thumbs up for sure. :)
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Crowrocker71 9 months ago
magical tune
thecitizens 10 months ago
Bobby Darin "Live at the Desert Inn" All that needs to be said!!
gageboy14 10 months ago
this song is so nice. I hope some day I be able to play this on my lighting key piano.
casioPX500L 10 months ago
losing this wonderful man was and still is a terrible sad loss to all
bmjwbc 10 months ago
Simply beautiful. This guy was the real deal. He is greatly missed.
coyotesong 11 months ago
Like nature's creation, perfect! And it always will be, regardless of who covers.
rblet 1 year ago
what a great songwriter and singer !
JawNeeOh 1 year ago
I prefer Bobby Darin's version. It was Darin's version that made me seek out Tim Hardin. Darin also did the original "Reason to Believe," and Hardin in turn, recorded Bobby Darin's classic song "Sing A Simple Song of Freedom." What a team. I now enjoy both equally. Elvis Presley was right when he mentioned in an interview that Bobby Darin was one of the most talented singers there ever was. Darin played multiple instruments and seemed able to sing anything effectively.
lastrada52 1 year ago
@lastrada52 I thought Hardin wrote "Reason to Believe" - but either way, Hardin and Darin complimented each other's work pretty well.
SergeantReese 1 year ago
@SergeantReese Yes, SergeantReese, you're right -- Hardin wrote "Reason to Believe" -- I may not have been clear -- I only meant that Darin covered the song years before other artists recorded it. It appears on Darin's "If I Were A Carpenter" LP on Atlantic 1966. Darin was quite an advocate of Tim's and this LP also has other Hardin songs. The only song Hardin recorded that was written by Bobby Darin & was a minor hit was "Sing a Simple Song of Freedom" -- many think Hardin wrote it.
lastrada52 1 year ago
@SergeantReese Hardin did indeed write reason to Believe.
RossM3838 11 months ago
Now we know where Simple Minds "Belfast Child" comes from. Listen to it and compare!
Grazie67 1 year ago
nice song...
dungalp 1 year ago
LOVE this song.... so much with so little. See BOB SEGER's VERSION it put chills on my arm
Scooter8370 1 year ago
Bobby Darin's version is the best bar none.....
5litreho 1 year ago
it works fine on my comp. beautiful.
waiting4thesun64 1 year ago
I know how to settle this! which one of them was actually a carpenter? neither? damn!
ilikemyVW 1 year ago
Love this version the most. Very haunting and has a 'beatnik' feel to it.
LakesideArt 1 year ago 3
In Brazil we have a version by a 60's rock singer - Ronnie Von. It is a good song named as "O carpinteiro"
lucasgrosso1977 1 year ago
Love This and the Darrin version but the version I like the best is The Small Faces. Marriott sings The S*%t out of it!!
1959rocco 1 year ago 3
NOT as good as Bobby Darin's version,not in any way.
dougallsdiscs 1 year ago
@dougallsdiscs Yes it is, in a differant way. That's what makes music so great : The diversity ! Both are good but I think this one has more 'white soul' to it.
nedarc 1 year ago
jim morrison and tim were in a bar with girls dancing this song
compadre002 1 year ago
Darin & Harden several songs for one another!
ggreenwood4 1 year ago
doesn't matter, both versions are great...nuff said!
lightheartedwilliam 1 year ago
i wish he was more known...this song is pure poetry
Funkdogg 1 year ago
I love this song, and have tried to record it.
When it gets edited/finished I hope to post it.
PS--I sing it more like Darin,
i.e.--touching love song
PPS--I *WAS* a carpenter, and my N. *IS* a lady
ReuvenF 1 year ago
@greenmagoos.... oh wow...thanks friend... :)
I haven't heard this tune in years....but, I am not familiar with this 'original' version....I am familiar with Bobby Darin's version...I think this is probably what got more radio airplay....(noticed the 'tinker' line- aren't you sneaky! ;D )....
x
Tami
kittenrenea 1 year ago
chicken schack do a 70;s rock interpretation wich is good
cornholio1962 1 year ago
I still like the best Robert Plant version. His voice is so fragile, almost begging. I'm so sad whenever i hear him. much more broken vulnerable than Hardin (which i love anyway).
sfex9 1 year ago
How comw this won't play though without stopping?
Think you need to re-upload it.
MIKECNW 1 year ago
@MIKECNW Hi mike. In my case it work without problems. Maybe try it again and wait a little bit ? ; )
namaste91 1 year ago
@namaste91 Still freezes on the 2nd verse and it can't be my computer because every other YT video I play works.
MIKECNW 1 year ago
"Answer me babe:"Yes, I´ll put you above me",
"...carrying the pots I made...following behind me."
Isn´t that machismo?
TomDeVille 1 year ago
@MIKECNW worked fine all the way through for me
Did Tim have any children?
lilackine 11 months ago
@MIKECNW worked fine all the way through for me
Did Tim have any children?
PS This is my favorite The way his voice cracks, the sound the feeling I wish I could write something even half as beautiful
lilackine 11 months ago
@lilackine Tim and Susan had a son named Damion who is in his early 40s now.
NewWaver80014 9 months ago
@NewWaver80014 thanks I hope Damion knows that his father's songs are God's lullabies and his music runs like a river in his son's veins. Oh sorry, these songs just get me so.........well, you know
lilackine 9 months ago
@lilackine No problem. :) Although they didn't see much of each other during Tim's lifetime. I think that, musically speaking, Damion is proud of his legacy.
NewWaver80014 9 months ago
unhonest vocal for me ,this verse
vuctreppi 1 year ago
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this is NOT the original version
vuctreppi 1 year ago
@vuctreppi You obviously right. But for me (and not only for me) this version is the best. Darin did a good job,he composed it. And - without purpose to hurt feelings - Darin's interpretation is soppy,Tim has something broken vulnerable in it's voice..
namaste91 1 year ago 6
@namaste91 Sorry, Tim wrote this song, but Darrin released it first, that's all.
MrCKinsley 1 year ago 16
@MrCKinsley uh,that's all a little bit confusing. Thank you. Hope you like it ;)
namaste91 1 year ago
@MrCKinsley And The Free Design released a version better than the other two put together, crazy how these things work out....
PoetsOfElan 1 year ago
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@MrCKinsley And The Free Design released a version better than the other two put together, crazy how these things work out....
PoetsOfElan 1 year ago
@MrCKinsley Exactly, this is the original propper hippy tune!!!
leechris74 1 year ago 2
@namaste91 Tim wrote it. Darin heard a demo and recorded it himself and released his first. Tim's own recording came out a little later. Incidentally Tim's only hit on his own came from "A Simple Song Of Freedom" which was written by Darin but recorded first by Tim.
RossM3838 1 year ago
@RossM3838 bobby rejected younger girl by john sebastian tim had the same publisher
spacepatrolman 11 months ago
@vuctreppi This is the real version. Tim Harden wrote this fine song.
philfromearth 1 year ago
@vuctreppi Tim Hardin wrote this song Darin only recorded it before Hardin released it.
kojak543 1 year ago
Yiou have a good point. Bobby Darin did an awesome job...but he did have something to start from....something to build from. Tim Hardin did it from scratch with the sound in his head. That says something. Both great talents...but the talent it takes to write a lasting song is really something to admire.
fishingluhrs1 1 year ago
Meanwiddlekid it's "Colored blouse" not "colored bars" which pretty much explains itself.
gameshowmatt 1 year ago
She has money, he'a talented laborer. Would she miss her colored blouse and her soft shining? (her soft shoes-but creates a hissing sound, simpler to say soft shoe).
lilycarol 1 year ago
@lilycarol Except that it is "color box" in the official lyrics sites, and not a blouse at all.
heikkuri 1 year ago
@heikkuri Thank you, I actually used to know it as color box, singing in the car back in the 70s or 60s. I let other theories sway me here because I became unsure. I always pictured her like a Renaissance woman in silk, drawing with her colors she kept in a box., and the song could be set in an earlier century, couldn't it.
lilycarol 1 year ago
beautiful !
erzebet1961 1 year ago
He's saying "colored blouse", meaning would she mind being poor. RossM3838 below is right, his Woodstock version is weird and emotional. One of my favorite songs. And he was out of his mind at Woodstock, in one scene he babbles on and on about how the Germans and Japanese have made all the vehicles around us. But who cares? EVERYONE in the 60's performed under the influence at one time or another. At Monterey pop everyone was high on Owsley's 'orange sunshine' acid, and they all did great!
tjkeasyboy 1 year ago
@tjkeasyboy Right idea, but it is "color box."
heikkuri 1 year ago
@tjkeasyboy That's because those cars were new to us at the time, but I loved the 60's sport cars like the ones the cute guys in college drove.
lilycarol 1 year ago
@tjkeasyboy American sports cars.
lilycarol 1 year ago
Best by far...
sidensvans67 1 year ago
Tim played it first...back then they all played the same song..then bobby darin etc
jason75 1 year ago
@jason75 actually although Tim Hardin wrote the song Bobby Darin recorded it first. Tim's own (this recording) came a little later. A few years later Tim had a hit with Bobby Darin's song Simple Song Of Freedom. Bobby Darin recorded it himself after Tim. In essence they swapped songs. Bobby Darin and Tim became friendly and really helped each other out.
RossM3838 1 year ago
@RossM3838 Furthermore When Tim first heard it it was on a car radio and he thought it was him it sounded so like his version when he realized it was Bobby Darin he was pissed, Bobby years later through Tim a bone with Simple Song of Freedom to sort of make up for it, nothing against Darin A GREAT ENTERTAINER , but facts are facts .
rakeuiff 1 year ago
Nice. My first version was The Four Tops and I guess that'll always be my fave. Could "colour bars" mean, like, the vertical colour bars on TV?
sparksdini 1 year ago
nobody plays it like Ramblin' Jack Elliott
k6skt6666 1 year ago
Another worthy cover of this is Bob Seger's version. It's from '72 before he hit it big nationally. Seger brings it to a simmering slow burn......
thewillismon 1 year ago
i love this song. brings tears to my eyes. so beautiful
waiting4thesun64 1 year ago
I think the greatest version of this song was played on woodstock 1969
3831M 1 year ago 29
@3831M At Woodstock Tim seems to have come from outer space. He loses his place and has to keep repeating the same chord over and over until he regains it and then uses the chord progression from a different song. He was probably under some substance as he often was. The performance is riviting, emotional and odd.
RossM3838 1 year ago
@RossM3838 You do not know what you are talking about, first of all for anyone who ever saw Tim more than once Hwas a jazz singer and would never sing a song the same twice true he was stoned at Wood stock, but was doing his usual improvising and added a new verse he was working on , Secondly Darin told him he would wait for Tim's version to come out Darin's record company released it early Darin had already heard Tim's version and copied it,
rakeuiff 1 year ago
This is just so subtle and down-to-earth ~ nothing flashy. It's the only version that moves me.
Great upload (-:
steelyman08 1 year ago
I suggest you to listen to the Small Faces and Chicken Shack versions too, they are interesting..
This song is wonderful anyway.
Hardin sang a live version during Woodstock69 but the video is no more on youtube
MissGiulia73 1 year ago
I agree Darin's cover version is excellent, but to me there's very few (if any) singers who put more heart into their songs than Tim Hardin.
SergeantReese 1 year ago
Its a good song, but Bobby does it so much better with more heart and soul.
Rando123a 1 year ago
I saw Tim H. perform this song in person so many years ago I can't remember. It was at a night club in San Franciso and Tim was the "warm up" act for Woody Allen. Woody was just getting started at that time.
Hardin was high on drugs and liquor and almost fell off the stage. If he hadn't stumble into the microphone he would have. The crowd booed him.
I loved and still love Tim Hardin. He was a "romantic" so naturally he had to die a tragic death.
Fmbunyard 2 years ago
****** Songs like this make wish that YouTube had six stars.
dorsiflector 2 years ago
what a waste of a good life to heroin, like so many good singers before and after. thank goodness we can still listen to there music today. no matter who sings it, its good to hear. thank you for posting
killiekentman 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. I've read many comments on other versions that Hardin's is the best. Now I've heard it for myself. It's good but his voice can't compare to Darin's.
Does anyone know what the line "Will you miss your color bars and your soft shoes shining" means? I'm guessing that shoes shining refers to the dust at a mill but what are the color bars?
meanwiddlekid 2 years ago
You're welcome. :)
namaste91 2 years ago
IT IS ACTUALLY COLORED BLOUSE
147dlb147 2 years ago
@147dlb147
Maybe you're right but I just listened to a lot of the different versions and no one seems to say that. It does make a little more sense though.
meanwiddlekid 2 years ago
it is blouse
rakeuiff 2 years ago
Crayons
brib333 2 years ago
@meanwiddlekid Colored blouse -- flour dusted.
AxlRose444 1 year ago
@meanwiddlekid It's "color box." And the dust from a mill would dull the shine of her shoes. As a lady, she would have an appreciation for refinement. As a working man's wife, she will have to give up a lot of luxuries. The soft, shiny shoes, the color box, which is paints or pastels: fine clothes and elegant pastimes are things he imagines she might miss.
heikkuri 1 year ago
colored blouse
roycechestnut 1 year ago
colored blouse
roycechestnut 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting Tim's version which is where all other's come from that is where Bobby Darin got his version, pretty much copied Tim's and released it just before Tim's came out, Eddie Black
rakeuiff 2 years ago 2
Glad you agree. Only heard Tim's version till I googled the words (I cover it on guitar adapting Red Balloon's rhythm taught me by a lady Israeli guitarist.) Darin's has something. Heard Dolly Parton's; Alison Kraus'? Tim's is best . Darin released it before the composer did! Tacky? WithTim's OK? BTW, the "conditional" form "If I were," once standard form for any average educated American, is disappearing. Today, the incorrect usage would be written: If I was a carpenter. Fascinating, huh? - Pam
sturmundranging 2 years ago 3
No it was not with Tim's ok but Darin's management released it befopre they were supposed to Tim heard it on the radio and thought it was his and was very pissed when he found out !
rakeuiff 2 years ago
No, it's better! more feeling more wavering and plaintive . less Las Vegas.
rakeuiff 1 year ago
This song should be part of the 'great American songbook'
sturmundranging 2 years ago 26
You are absolutely right! a seminal folk song, with a classic theme that is why so many have recorded it , including me,
God bless you Tim and Susan his widow about whom it was written. Eddie Black, (This is the anniversary of Tim's death. 29 years ago R I P. Tim.)
rakeuiff 2 years ago 2
Love this song. Many versions, but this is the best.
Tempo3499 2 years ago 10