Nvidia or Ati, Geforce 480 or HD 5970 That is The Question

[hknp]

nvidia couse it has 3D vision :) physx :D and sli is better =D and i have ati on my rig now but i am gioing to buy 2 gtx 480s =DD

[hknp]

if peeps opened there eyes and ears instead of fighting and being fan boys or girls

just imagine how they would be if those 2 companies worked together they would make a graphics card that you get a :O feeling

[hunterx2591]

@hknp without competition to drive the price down there would be a monopoly on the graphics card market. That would cause really high prices. Also if they merge then they don't have to make the best cards anymore since they would still make profit by selling old cards. But we can always dream :)

[JoDaddyy]

When DirectX11 comes into play, that's when Nvidia wins...oh wait, they already do. Nvidia has better drivers, better GPU's for tesselation, PhysX, and CUDA.

[x0entrix]

nVidia ( with 2 in sli u can use like AMD/ATI s eyefinity!!!

[Speedkiller2009]

nvidia because supports 3d 4 way sli and much better nvidia physx thn ati 5970

[quangluu96]

GTX 480 SC, i saw a benchmark that OC 5970 is just 2or 3 fps more in crysis

[TheCoalescent]

ATI sucks balls.

[basbas63]

5970 better performance/buck go with the 5970 -_-

[sniperlif3]

Im not sure why people keep saying that the 480 being only 1 gpu will be way better than the 5970 when nVidia creates a dual gpu of it. Dont people realize that even with their 1 gpu it overheats and consumes more power than the ATI's dual gpu 5970?

[TheKoups]

@sniperlif3 yes the 480 has overheating issues lol. but thats now fixed thanks to the new 580. they got rid of those stupid heat pipes and made a "vapor chamber". and b4 anyone say shit yes i know that it works the same way but the "vapor chamber" runs much cooler. And yes the new card still draws alot of power but that power isn't wasted, its used to run DX11 at its highest and Physx and the rest of them. in Heaven 2.0 the 580 got 10-15 more FPS than the 480 (only 1 GPU card, highest setting)

[sniperlif3]

@TheKoups Yeah it dropped the temp by 5-10 degrees but im still doubting their creation of a dual gpu based off the 580, it draws a lot of power and of course would be hot just as well but hell maybe they will =)

[TheKoups]

@sniperlif3

yes that maybe so but the clock speeds are higher all everything so really that 5-10 degrees difference is really not true. the 580 will never find itself as a dual GPU card. 1: power, 2: heat, 3: not cost effective.

The GTX580 is a full length card unless the put a FULL copper water block inbetween 2 "cards" it will never fit, not to mention the heat and weight. you'd be force to have GPU card support brakets.

[sniperlif3]

@TheKoups Well what about the GTX 285? Didnt people think the similar thing would be true when they made the 295 which was 2 cards pushed together? Now i dont disagree that they probably wont go for a dual GPU card because that wouldnt work very well for them, but it could very well be possible.

[TheKoups]

@sniperlif3 yes but the GTX 285 doesn't have the same heat output as the GTX580. thats y i dont think we'll see a dual gpu card with the 580 chip unless its cooled by something better water cooling. thats just my thought

[sniperlif3]

@TheKoups Yeah i dont think they wont be able to make it a dual gpu card on just air either but maybe they have some special plan if they ever decided to make it.

Might as well have package an air conditioner and a generator with each card =)

[shadowville005]

ati has faster cards right now with less cost to nvidia and ati preforms quite well also but

things like ray tracing , phsx , cuda , 3d vision these all things are the future yes they do slow ur games but gives a realistic feel Nvidia makes a gpu not just for games it for work, animation, gpu rendering and to be technical there's not a huge difference in the frame rate 15 fps here and there dose't matters if ur getting 100+ frames in 97% of the games i guess that gives nvidia the edge

[cdt19404]

Well, I can't afford either on a collage student budget. I don't believe in brand loyalty. If I were going to buy one it'd probably be the ATI board. My experiences in the past with nVidia board they don't really seem as responsive for some reason. Even if the 480 is fastest card on the market it won't always be. Fact of the matter is either of these boards will be overkill for any game out today.

[DarkS3phiroth17]

gtx 480 is supposed to be a 5870 rival, is a single gpu card, and its pretty good...bt aniwat whatever you choose, should be more than enough for most of people here...those card are beast.

just take what you like more

[randyrhoads15]

they are really cheap and you can start

from scratch mine was around . but yah i have Sli Dual Geforce 9500gt with

1gb. it does great for me.

[lilHamminator]

You spelled Nvidia wrong. And right now ATi has alot of DX11 cards comparied with 2 from Nvidia, obviously people are going to buy the 5970 it being the only dual GPU DX11 card ATM.

[supergiff8]

@lilHamminator Haha, that's funny.

[TjipzPK]

480 is cheaper? and its not meant to compete with 5970

[TjipzPK]

480 is cheaper?

[aninjainatree]

lol fail "nvidea"..... i would get nvidia cuz of the drivers and physx

[Dorisequador]

Low budget I'd go with the 260GT they are on sdale and pretty cheap.. and exellent.. but ATI is very fast and way more responsive in gaming.

Nvidia is slugish a bit.

I prefer.... 5970 all the way  thats my next purchase when it comes out on Acer Laptops...

Eventually.

[FRURMELLL]

I will get the ATi one. It's much cheaper! And it's probably just as good.

[ImperialArmour]

personally I think macbooks, and macs for that matter will remain with 512mb video cards for at least till the 3rd quarter of 2010.

As for nvidia fermi or ati 59xx, I will always go with ATI because like it's parent company AMD, they have proven time and time again to provide informed consumers with much better value. I also vouch for AMD, as intel sold out it's processors to apple and it's bimbotic(and annoying) consumer base, and I don't want to get branded as such.

[lordwerneo]

Nvidia have the best 1 gpu graphic card. And soon they will have the best with 2 GPU_s.

[beachzone2]

@lordwerneo I think it will be pretty hard for them to make a 2 gpu card because the gtx 480 already has over heating issues.

[lordwerneo]

@beachzone2 I think the solution will be water blocks ..

[isellcookies1]

nvidia still has physics though, this gives less bottlenecks

[hunterx2591]

@isellcookies1 that can be hacked for ati cards... just slowed down my games with my geforce card so had to tern it of anyways. What I would say is a plus is that 480 will have 3d vision, and thats the only bright side.

[MrTHEO321]

Wait for the ATI Radeon HD 5890 very soon, the 5870 uses the 1/2 of power that Nvidia 480 GTX graphics card.

[MrTHEO321]

that->than

[imtihanahmed]

u are aware that nvidia is like a year behind, and falling faster. ati will be coming with the 6000 series in like a year i think and nvidia is just coming out with something that may rival some of their 5000 line

[hunterx2591]

@imtihanahmed I am aware of this. However, a year is a long way away and it is right now that we are talking about. If you are to buy a ati 5000 card in a year it will be just as old as a 480 card.

[TheZBRproductions]

@imtihanahmed cough, do u know ati still has driver problems? still they release more cards without fixing it :/

[TheKoups]

@imtihanahmed yes they maybe a year bihind but atlease nVidia drivers are solid. 1 driver does all unlike the AMD/ATI cards. what is it, like 1 driver per game? if ur lucky

[Pieisforsk8ers]

If I can't afford the 5970, would the 5870 work fairly well too, or is it outdated?

[AtgreatR9]

nvidea ^^

[MangbubutiG]

Sapphire 5970 OC CrossfireX plus Palit GTX 285 2GB for dedicated PhysX. ATI's drivers sucks. Can't use the newest one cause of major problems. So, I have to revert to CCC v10.2+Application Profiles v10.3. Always get 99 degrees celcius with these cards when playing. How hot can 480 be? The only thing I don't like with 480 is that it cosumes more power. Can't wait for my Inno3d GTX 480 3way SLI.

[MangbubutiG]

with 480, no need for dedicated PhysX. Quality of drivers are superb, except for v196.75, with that fan issue. Well, i guess it's okay. No harm, no foul. 480 is a single GPU card but could almost stand up against a dual GPU card which is the 5970 by just a mere 15% lost in over-all gaming performance. Do i still need to say the over-all quality? We all know that NVIDIA takes it.

[FRURMELLL]

@MangbubutiG What are you talking about? I have the drivers and they are just fine!

[Ocet9]

i will buy nvidia cuz i like to do custom aplication profiles.

[xxshabacxx]

aaaaaaaaa majmune majmune

[live112]

i would buy nvidia!

Why?

Ati has 2 chips in one grapic card

Nvidia has 1 chip

If the nvidia had 2 chips......

[s9729126c]

oh yeah- and as for the macbook pro 2010, apple will probably give it a shit card. The drivers for mac are really bad anyway, and macs are already too overpriced.

[olegdcru]

Why pepole talk to much shit about Nvidia and REDION they both good GPU's just pick which one do you whant , i goin whit Nvidia cazz i got alredy 3d vision ...

[P1200VB]

The 5970 is much more powerful and not as hot as the GTX480

[andrewesquivel]

well, the 5970 is a dual GPU card. the GTX480 is single GPU card (i think?) and beats it by 5% is performance (from what i understand) i think thats a triumph. best of luck to both brands. may the better man win.

[s9729126c]

@andrewesquivel who cares. Its essentially a dual-GPU card, but still a "single card". Heck, the GTX 295 was a dual GPU too, and Nvidia was bragging about it being the "fastest gpu ever".

[andrewesquivel]

the advantage of having a single GPU card is that some games dont support dual GPU's even if they are on a single card.

[cAWPerN1]

That's wasy, 5970 ofc...

[Mr0ro]

who gives a shit, nvidia took to long to create some not that impressive. Toooo late, I was an nvidia guy now ATI. that should teach them not to take so dam long. And they did cause they havent been able to beat ATI and they still cant. Cause theyre not being straight about their fps results

[loser667667]

Nvidia or ATI? Who cares? Which ever one is a better value for the money.

[errik0o]

the price for the 480 is around the same as for the 5970

pretty expensive for a single corce

(bad spelling)

[biplav91]

i would buy 5970 isnt it better than 480 i.e if i had money and a motherboard to put it on

[subluka]

5970 all the way lol theres a bunch of fake videos that show gtx 480 vs ati 5870 and saying its the 5970 when its not only that there is a new version of the 5970 coming out thanks to asus its gonna be a LOT faster clocked and have 4gb of gddr5 memory also ati is having a software fix so the 5870 will be doing 6 screens so lol these two companies are both being childish to each other but ati is currently in the lead when it coming to GPUs nvidia needs something a little better than the gtx 480

[flipskater0273]

Who even cars about eyefinity and 3-way display. Who the hell even uses that? Not the average gamer.

[HardRockLegendx]

Those benchmarks are crap, but 5970 will be fastest throught and ATI is already making overclocked versions of 5970.

Gtx 470 and 480 consume power like hell, will cost higher, and dont have eyefinity feature :P

So hail 5970...

[hunterx2591]

@HardRockLegendx so 480 is getting 3d with 3 monitor support as well... kinda an eyefinity rip of but in 3d

[HHEADHUNTERZZ]

@hunterx2591 Go Nvidia ! Go Intel

[lilHamminator]

@hunterx2591 Nvidias multi display isnt an eyefinity rip! Nvidia has been able to run multiple displays before ATi, and now they can do it in 3D!!!

[aninjainatree]

@HardRockLegendx eyefinity is stupid! who wants to play a game with three giant lines through your screen?!!!

[lilHamminator]

@HardRockLegendx Eyefinity doesnt mean shit, Nvidia has been able to run multiple displays for YEARS!

[supergiff8]

@HardRockLegendx What a lie, Fermi series cards use less energy and make less heat than ATI cards.

[HardRockLegendx]

@supergiff8 dude go watch some reviews before talking shit.

1st, i was talking to Gtx 470 and Gtx 480, not all fermi series cards.

2nd, gtx 470 has higher consumption than 5870, and gtx480 than 5970.

3rd, Gtx 480 reaches 80+ºC in load in stock cooler, now go compare it with ATI 5XXX series, do they make more heat? i dont think so.

4th, the only fermi serie of card that suprises me is the gtx460, witch has good temps, price/performance and low power consumption.

[supergiff8]

@HardRockLegendx I wasn't talking shit, now you are.

[HardRockLegendx]

@supergiff8 You dont even worth the time, good bye kid.

[supergiff8]

@HardRockLegendx Fine, just learn some grammar on your way. I don't feel like dealing with liars.

[justinkirangmail]

id still be soubtful about the monster 5970 coz its one helluva fuckin big card man i/we should see whether itd fit in the fuckin case

[hunterx2591]

@justinkirangmail well apparently its 11.5 inches .... but what are 480s lengths :p

[vash2698]

WTF is wrong with all of your english? its TERRIBLE. anyway, if you want a good cheap card with shitty drivers, get ati. if you want the best you can get, its nvidIA. ive built rigs with both, and nvidias cards run better.

[srquiros]

Professional of hardware say nvidia gtx 480 have more technologies than the gtx 295 and the hd 5970, but no more fast than the hd 5970

[zatlasba]

the geforce will take the adventage ! because she have an idea what hd5xxx prformence price ! and you khow whatt ? FUCK NOMAD crysis 2 !! in october