first thing: you got it wrong with the CROissant asshole! second thing: you fucking murderers ar the ones to STFU! aight fag!? you lost every war you started! who's the stupid one here? who's the cromagnon?
It is all for the ratings ... questions are bull...., the journalist is a fool, the war was generated or sponsored by the US, UK and a few more just to get what they want and that is an american base in Kosovo, lots of ore and fertile land; naturally after the war, after they bombed most of the infrastructure and came in as saviors, everything was cheap and it was easy to steel what they needed ... and they still make money of it with the press ... it is so absurd but that is who they really are
jeli Vuche.... shto mu nisi drknu shamarchinu svaki put kada ti je upao u rech?????? ......ja bi to tako....PLjAS...shut up,i'm talking now...PLjAS....pi...nekulturna...pa josh jedaput....PLjAS kao pravi srbin
jeli Vuche.... shto mu nisi drknu shamarchinu svaki put kada ti je upao u rech?????? ......ja bi to tako....PLjAS...shut up,i'm talking now...PLjAS....pi...nekulturna...pa josh jedaput....PLjAS kao pravi srbin
@bezibre87 Now you can mark kosovo on map as part of Serbia but on the ground it's not. If Usa does not give a shit about us why does serbia not attack us? Let them come and soon you'll see B52 over Belgrade just like in 1999.
@KoSoVaAnGeL Are you retarded? Americans won't defend you but themselves, they need Kosovo and Metohija and not some ungrateful immigrants that are mostly criminals. Serbs were tolerant enough to let you multiply like freaking rabbits and this is how you show your gratitude.
@bezibre87 But regrettably for you, you do not know nothing about Serbs, we fought off many strong adversaries (Ottomans, Austro-Hungary, we said FU to Nazi Germany) and you think that a bunch of animals can do this and hope to have no problems. You're gone, you just don't know it yet.
The British , as exemplified by this interviewer , are such smug holier-than-thou hypocrites . They created Israel , witness the results of their meddling there .
BBC would not allow the broadcast for Gaza aid .
That did it for me as far as respect for the BBC is concerned .
That the Serbs bear guilt for the war , I personally agree , but Jeremic is right in his big point ; Kosovo is not a matter to be decided in haste by EU beurocrats .
If we treat Serbs bad USA/EU wont help us because they have helped us to create a Kosova where all people can live in peace. Including Serbs.
If we fuck up we're going to pay. We're not that stupid to hurt Serbs. Okay in 2004 there was that shit but I don't think it will happen again. reason why is because lifeis getting better in kosova. many countries gave us alot of cash to have a better life.
I am honest on this because no one is paying me anything to say this.
No, they didn't bombed Serbia so the Serbs can live in peace.
I also don't think ethnic cleansing of 2004 will happen again, because there are simply no more Serbs to be cleansed. Also, you need some Serbs around so you and your NATO chiefs could say: "YOU SEE, WE HAVE A TRUE MULTIETHNIC COMMUNITY".
mitrowsky....No there are enough serbs in Kosova and they keep comming back every day. I have friends all over Kosova who say that they are getting their Serbs back. Not those who left Kosova in 2004 but those in 1999. By the way those who left Kosova in 2004 are from Bosnia and Croatia. Authorities here have confirmed that more than once.
mitrowsky...You didn't understand me. In 1998-1999 we got a strong back up from the west to start something and get nothing but everything. Kosova of course. In 1998-1999 Albanians didn't kill Serb civilians, we killed only Police and Soldiers. It was a plan that started to create ground in 1995. mitrowsky...The west knew that we had to get out of Serbia. For the west it was better to finish it before new Millennium. That what happened.
@KoSoVaAnGeL Vuk Jeremic is Bosnian bastard son. His father is Hamdija Pozderac. He paid his studies in most expensive universities in world. But he never liked to recognize him as his legal son. That is why Vuk Jeremic hates Muslims so much.
Today in end of 2009 it is very important to understand that things are getting well, not only for us in Kosova but alos for Serbia. It is true that many Serbs wanted to get over this issue and point their eyes at EU. Serbia is making many mistakes but those mistakes are very small to stop Serbia from being in EU.
Thank God we didn't have any wars when we declared independence.
Thank God Serbia this time didn't act like Milosevic.
mitrowsky..Just go in Kosova yourself. Albanians don't have a good house while our Government is bulding good houses for Serbs. In fact many serbs who come from Serbia in Kosova are very happy because serbia has left them without anything.
Serbia as a country doesn't care about it's people. I'm in Kosova and I can see things with my own eyes. You can come and have a look for yourself. You will change your mind straight away.
mitrowsky...This is wrong. I am living here man. I can see life in here. Why you making me blind when I can see? I swear by God Serbs are moving around without fearing of their lifes. Please don't say this. You know there are those serbs who call for KFOR to move them around in Kosova. That is true but KFOR have said that there is not danger anymore. I am honest Serbs are not our enemy in Kosova because it's us who rule Kosova.
Of course KFOR is saying situation is SAFE because it is in their interest. Serbs and other minorities now need KFOR but KFOR is just extended arm of NATO which provided Albanians this pseudo-state of Kosovo. Serbs needs protection from KFOR because there is no one else to protect them from albanian terror.
@KoSoVaAnGeL Bottom line is, if you think you'll have independent country, then you're delusional. The only reason why you can suck in air in Kosovo and Metohija is because of Americans, they don't give a shit about you, Albania is a ghetto nation and you're ghetto-mannered people.
@bezibre87 USA's supremacy won't last long, they can try to secure every possible corner of the world, China, North Korea, Russiaare fully aware of American "peaceful" intentions. Ask yourself what will happen when they are gone, thousands of Mujahidin won't be able to help you.
@bezibre87....I am not thinking. Are you out of your mind? Go to Kosova by plain or ground. When you approach the border of Kosovo it will say welcome to republic of Kosova. Type in google kosovo passports. You see we have passports. Go by plain to kosova. When you land you will get a stamp where it says Kosova not Unmik.
mitrowsky..Of course we are building houses for Serbs with EU money. As you know Kosova is not Dubai or New York. Serbia has sucked our blood out of our heart. I can't speak Serbian but I know a saying in kosova. Trepca is radi belgrad is gradi. meaning something like Trepca is working belgrad is getting build. A gold mine near Mitrovica. We have been left back. EU is giving us money which we are using to build a kosovi for all it's people.
mitrowsky..Some Serbs who live in Kosova are paid from belgrad to say bad things. Like they are not living good etc. They want us to look bad. I mean we have just declared independence. Whole world is looking at us what we do with Serbs. So what do Serbs do? Cry and say we're killing them etc. On Euronews,CNN,BBC,DW I don't see it on Serb TV you can see those well paid serbs from belgrad who say we're suffering, albanians shot at us etc. Not true honest it's not true.
They decided to give independence to lead Serbia into the EU without Kosovo, and you would not enter the European Union probably never as an independent state. For them independece of Kosovo is only one solution of problems of migration of milions of Muslims ( you) in the EU, when Serbia get in.
Once inside the EU, Serbia will never accept that Kosovo will join as an independent country as you know well..as today day Slovenia not accepting Croatia to joing because of the problems between them.
srowntv..What's the problem with Spani? Why do you people support a country which is not supported from almost all EU nations? Spain to me was always a West country but those days it changed my mind when it was against us. If usa/uk/Germany/italy support us why not spain? I have no idea why you guys are so evil.
On the other side we don't really have any problems with you. Why do you have a problem with us? Very strange if you ask me. I can't understand it.
srowntv..Greece, Slovakia, Cyprus have some reasons why not to accept us. They have supported Serbia in all wars they started. Spain is very far to have anything to do with the wars. I've meet many spanish people and also many Albanians in France,Italy,UK,Germany and Switzerland who are married with spanish girls. My oncle has his wife from Spain who now can speak very good albanian. My question is is it the government who is crazy or what? We in Kosova watch spanish serials. I don't get it.
srowntv..About us being muslims and not being able to join eu if serbia is in eu before us...I think you're stucked in a drak room. You need light in order to see things. If you watch news careful you will see that EU is about to create a special rule for all the eu memebrs. That rule means to accept Kosovo so that they can hold eu presidency. If they don't they're not going to hold eu presidency.
I will also remind you that an important factor in organized crime throughout Europe and Spain as well coming from Kosovan albanians. Here in Spain almost no robbery, murder or any other form of crime that Kosovan albanians are not involved in it.
So, we all know well man, who you people are..so don't you think that the states which even recognize you don't know the facts about you.
By the way we're fine without spain as long as we're fine with spanish girls treating us good. We don't need spain to like us. We're fine without you.
Countries like UK, Italy and Germany have recognized you for the sake of their personal interests. To reduce the immigration on their territories of Albanian population from Kosovo, which has threatened that if you do not get independence, will settle there. Also for us was, and still is the fact that the way you achieve independence is not democratic way.
I also have many friends who were on a mission to Kosovo, and I can tell you that everyone thinks like me ..
mitrowsky...More than 95.000 Serbs move in Kosova from Bosnia and Croatia after Serbia lost both wars. I know this because in 1994-95-96 Serbia has build many blocks in Prishtina so that they could live in here.
Anyway I do not think the west would support us in Killing Serbs. I really don't think so.
I do agree that KFOR is here to help us and not the Serbs but after 2005 it's there to safe the Serbs.
After 2008 they're not protecting anyone because we have what we wanted.
Yes, but official data concerning albanian deaths can be counted up to 12.000.
The claim about 3000 serbs is simply not true. And its not a matter of point of view, its a matter of facts.
And facts, non-serb websites that is, can easily be found on the internet.
It's a clear lack of repsect for history when saying that serbs suffered as much as albanians (or bosniaks or croatians for that matter). Facts show that this is absurd and I think you know it too.
It is a matter of point of view when you apply one frame of thought to other situations that you consider comparable which is what you admit to doing. This is only one example of point of view skewing a person's reasoning. There's also a great amount of data available of pre-1990s events that may clarify things for you if you want to see whether you have the complete picture.
You are really not convincing me with your words. It is clear that you are biased and very partial. One just has to look at your YT-page and watch your clips, several with yugoslavian/serbian clips. So lets just point that out.
Well, as a serb, you should know that statistics and numbers never favour serbian interests, considering the actions of serbs in the history. There are no numbers in the world that can change that Serbia lost its right to controll Kosovo. That is the reality.
I stated my conclusions and respond to your last statement similarly to how you responded to my last statement ("this is absurd and I think you know it too"). Only that I think that you do not "know it" just yet.
Serbian is my first language, but I learned English early. By the way, I wish to express my greatest admiration towards Sweden for all of its progress towards Social Democracy. I've been there five times so far. Its truly wonderful. I sincerely mean it.
Kosovo is center of crime. Population is uneducated, streets are dirty,no electricity,no industry,black market is spread,non Albanians are living in fear...and in that condition is very easy to manipulate with people.Kosovars needs visa for every European village,Europe closed them in gheto.43 countries recognized Kosovo as independent.But that is all.What is with rest 162 states? So,life goes on, but unfortunately not on the Kosovo! Slovenac
Ethnic cleansing and genocide are not measured solely by death tolls. The intentional eradication of an ethnic group from an area and the systematic destruction of its culture are also part of genocide. And you seem to forget that there were 10,000 Albanians killed and 3,000 Serbians killed in the war, but 250,000 Serbians permanently cleansed from their homes.
I have not experienced either so I cannot speak of what it must feel like for the victim. However, the net effect by those committing the crime is the same - removal of the undesired population by force. Either way, I wanted to point out that both Serbs and Albanians are victims here. Determining which one is more of a victim is a matter of point of view in too many of the cases.
Serbs expelled from their homes after the war in Kosovo were not expelled by albanian officialls or any government. The vast majority of serbs left because they feared a strike-back by albanians.
Interesting is that the albanian people of Kosovo was systematically expelled and murdered by the government of Serbia (then Yugoslavia).
It smells very much like propaganda when claiming that albanians and serbs are !equally victims". That is simply not true and it shows that serbia won't moved on.
Okay. That's one person's opinion and I won't object to it. There are plenty of opportunities to question your own point of view, the point of view of your sources, and to answer the question of whether you are being truly honest with yourself. I'm saying this b/c I've gone through this process and my prior statements were made after the process's completion.
There is so much data on the cleansing of both groups that it would be a joke when attempted to summarize here.
So, if you really are interested in the events of the last 12 years in Kosovo, I suggest going through all the respectable publications out there. Its fairly straightforward but time-consuming. The data that I mentioned was probably non-Wiki that I used for personal study.
Don't worry about grammar. As long as you get the message across who cares. Seriously. I hate it when ppl attack others based on proficiency in English grammar.
If English is your 2nd language, then you're doing a great job
--> Meaning that those who support illegal secessionists are not truly democratic, rather they are the ones exhibiting dictatorial tendencies.
One thing is ethnic Albanian self-determination another is the forceful violation of international law set to protect all nations and people of the world.
Don't forget Serbs practiced ethnic genocide do you think the world is blind that's why the entire world is with Kosovo. When Serbs practiced ethnic cleansing international law no longer applies to Serbia. No need to dispute this anymore... Real Fact no body wants to be part of Serbia
The whole world is with Kosovo... aha. The whole world minus Azerbaijan, Belarus, Cyprus, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Argentina, Bangladesh, BiH, Brazil, Canada, China, Colombia, Egypt, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Macedonia, Malta, MNE, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Portugal, Singapore
You don't forget that the ethnic Albanians also committed ethnic cleansing (i.e. genocide). In the past 10 years - 10,000 Albanians and 3,000 Serbians died. Read up on WWII also. Perhaps, they skip over this part in Albanian text books. Whether or not international law applies to a given nation is for the body governing over the application of international law and policy to decide and not for laymen or individual nations to decide. Congrats on your Bananë Republikë of Kosovë
I have to say I'm a huge fan of Vuk Jeremic. Bachelor of Arts in Theoretical Physics from U Cambridge, Master in Public Administration from Harvard U. Truly, a brilliant individual.
As long as the people who are celebrating in Kosovo, now, remain there (i.e. do not spread to North Kosovo, MNE, central Serbia, Skopje) we have little to worry about - minimal difference in our day-to-day lives other than the realisation of which nations are true democracies, not on a locally, but rather globally.
jeremic what you offered to albanians was already offered to them and taken away.... Stop avoiding the reality, and answer the questions correctly don't go around in a loop, Kosovo will never be part of Serbia again... You can't list some BS claiming kosovo when you practiced genocide on Albanians and then try to force them to be part of your country... it's an impossibility
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ur a stupid idiot u killed albanian terrorist so killing woman and children is killing terrorist stupid bitch. serbias propoganda will never work everyone will see through it.
mladibosnjaci --- STUPID Bosnian JOKE .... ALBANIANS are supported by USA ,.,... WE turn to RUSSIA .... PUTIN come and BUILD your bases in SERBIA and Republic Of Srpska(Bosnia) .... KOSOVO is SERBIA/////
Four astronauts land on the moon. An American, a German and two Serbs.
The American jumps out and plants a flag on the surface exclaiming that US money made their mission possible.The German stuck in his own flag proclaiming that it was German scientific knowledge that made it possible. One of the Serbs reached into his pocket pulled out a gun & shot the other Serb.Then he proclaimed"Serbian blood has been spilled here, so the moon will be Serbian now forever."
In 1999, when he was President of Finland, Marti Ahtisaari's government planned to honor and to commemorate Finland's Nazi Waffen SS volunteers during the Holocaust and World War II.
One more thing, from now on I will not post anymore on this topic and will delete any further post by tarce604. He and I have said enough and obviously we are unable to make any progress.
Serb forces committed genocide(s) and mass murder all over the former Yugoslavia including kosovo, this was repeated on your video. What do you think prompted the nato bombing campaign on belgrade? Your denial of these serbian atrocities is a good example why kosovo cannot stay under serb rule, serbs need to stop denying their evildoings and aggression as a first step but sadly that will not happen. Yes the Albanians committed atrocities in defense and in response to the serbian aggression.
WHICH mass murders? I've already mentioned it in my comments and there is no need to repeat them again. Why dont you try watching this video that you yourself posted? The host brings up the mass murders and jeremic himself has no response or defense.
you seem to be pressing for this forgive and forget policy. following your reasoning, your supervisor at work can punch you in the mouth and then demand that you don't claim any compensation. Now imagine when people are killed and in the magnitude of what happened, I think you are insane to think the border should be respected based on your forgive and forget policy. Independence is a fair compensation for what happened, its not like someone is marching into Belgrade to match the killing spree.
Well, let's just wait and see if this independence that the Albanians in Kosovo one way or the other are going to declare is going to lead to any long lasting peace and stability in the region. I am telling you, you cannot punish a country for what happened 10 years ago by depriving it of its lands.
Well there is conflict between the two sides even without the independence, this is nothing new and you should know that. I am telling you, you cannot punish the Albanian victim's and reward the Serbian perpetrators. We must deprive servia of its land so the entire world knows that you cannot kill your neighbour and get away with it.
you have a legitimate point although as I said, it must all be done in accordance with the already established international principles of law and order. Because what bothers me are basically two things:
1. How would it be possible for a newly created micro state in the heart of the Balkans to find its way both politically and economically among the rest of Europe?
I agree that international law must be obeyed and consequences for breaking these laws must occur for any justice to prevail; you can't simply change your government and expect no further consequences. This means that you cannot look at the independence case as an irresponsible act of not respecting international law but are the consequences of the Serbian side not following these laws by launching a systematic campaign of crime resulting in the deaths of 10,000 & ethnically cleansing 1million.
It seems that everyone would rather be a micro state than be under belgrade's rule, remember that kosovo is not alone in this view. Moreover, kosovo is the poorest and most deprived region while under serbian rule, tie that in with genocide and there is little reason to want to continue living under serbian oppression. If genocide was not committed then some kind of compromise could have been made, this is why I said serbia should have offered these levels of self governing b4 hand.
why don't we just take the half of Germany since what the German army did during WW2 was much worse than the atrocities against ethnic Albanians in the 90s.(I am not justifying them in any way). But most importantly, why are the Kosovo Albanians not willing to accept maximum self governance within Serbia? Don't you think it's all a part of a plan to build Greater Albania?
1Larz, I think you are able to see the whole image, unlike mr. tarce604. Tarce is non-stop talking about some genocide. What genocide? 100 000 Serbs were forced to leave Kosovo. 250 000 Serbs were forced to leave Croatia. It is all about great plan of western "democracies". Albanians were just used as a foot-soldiers and as an award they will receive yet another Albanian state.
The serbs in kosovo had the full weight of Serbia behind them who in fact had one of the largest armies in europe. It is widely known that the serbs used this firepower to kill 10,000 albanians and ethnically cleansed 1 million. The serbs who left kosovo were not driven out by the albanians because they lacked the firearms to implement this. Trying to portray the serbs as the victims is wrong from the very beginning therefore we do not need to explore this.
It's interesting that you compared serbs to nazi germany as the two have a lot in common with regards to committing genocide. Many territories were taken away from Germany because they were conquered through ethnic cleansing and genocide; Serbia will also lose some of its territories because of these practices. The Albanians are entitled to full independence so why would they settle for anything less? The Serbian people are the worst rulers of the 21st century & that's reason enough.
2. How would this independence influence the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia, wouldn't that trigger yet another local conflict followed by another declaration of independence?
If the macedonians commited genocide against the albanians i imagine thats what would happen. Lets not forget kosovo is a province and not just a nieghbourhood. Moreover, its not a matter of population majority but because genocide was commited against them by the serbs.
yes mass killings of albanians by serbs....it was brought to the attention of mr jeremic in this video and he had no response or defence for it...do you only hear what you want to hear? that would explain your poor knowledge of the conflict.
the only way we will have a "presposterous" europe is if we tied up serbia and used a tug boat to sink them out to sea - that way there would be less retards and the air would be alot cleaner. and dont get me started on bugarska u ugly guy
first of all be aware of the terms you use when you write in English. I am saying preposterous, meaning absurd and I believe you may mean prosperous, which is a different thing. Second of all, it cannot be possible that the EU forces Serbia as a democratic modern state to let go its territories while offering it a deal to join the EU quicker! This is not democracy and this is not how modern Europe should function!
I do believe that europe would be *preposterous* if kosovo remained a part of serbia. The Change in government was for Serbia's benefit and does not make up for the tens of thousands killed. This maximum self governance should have been offered b4 these war crimes were commited.
I would agree with you, but I find this pressure on Serbia coming from the US and Europe wrong as Kosovo is, after all and at present Serbian territory, meaning an internal affair. There must be international dialogue but
We know how serbia deals with internal matters from its day of Yugoslavia. Moreover, the crimes of the genocide must be punished and what better way than independence? Its shameful how serbs at best assume minimal responsibility for what they did in kosovo and now would like to play forgive and forget, although folk tales of discrimination that they faced 500 years ago (along with everyone else) are used as justification for the genocide(s) on a daily basis.
moreover, don't forget that Milosevic was put under a fair trial in the Hague after all and it was his Serbia that started the problem in first place. Imposing a successive punishment through independence and further local conflicts seems dangerous.
Yes Milosevic was put under a fair trial but he is a small fish doing what the people wanted him to do. I find that belgrade wants to use milosevic as the escape goat for what happened yet more than half the population of the cit deomonstrated the entire day to give milosevic the power to do what he did. I think the serbian people and politicians should be punished for this.
this interviewer is absurd when claiming that the Serbian government should adhere to what Brussels says and this MUST be considered the right and the European solution to the problem. This is wrong as international law and principles don't involve making cheap deals over the territory of a sovereign nation...
If serbia was not guilty of such a systematic campaign of crimes then I would oppose the rules implemented by Brussels. If serbia ignored international law for its own interests then why shouldn't Brussels do the same thing?
well the only question would be then...Why should this terrible violation of international law principles that undoubtedly happened back in the 90s be corrected by another serious violation of these very values- integrity of borders and sovereignity. It's an awful situation and I hope that a peaceful way out could be found although it becomes more and more difficult with every single day...
Integrity of borders cannot be protected if half of the population has been ethnically cleansed and tens of thousands killed in standard serbian fashion. The declaration of independence is not nearly as bad as genocide so I don't see how this a terrible measures as you put it; nobody is dying. The serbs have given up their right to govern kosovo for such actions and it would be a serious message to the world if kosovo stayed as a part of Serbia, you cant kill your neighbors and get away with it.
I know there were atrocities towards Albanians and I this is a bad thing. But Serbia nowadays has a democratic government and it DOES offer Kosovo maximum self governance as we heard it from the foreign minister. So I think independance would be a utterly wrong move here.
#3 the demand is give kosovo up to be one of us (euro), um fuk u, we dont wanna trade out territory to join the EU
THE BBC interviewer could not respond in any way to any good points and kept on "saying yea u didnt answer my questioin" yes he did and ur in hotspot with nothing to say
visarp u are afuking idiot plain and simple. #1 he answered all the questions clearly with facts and if u do not understand english please at least attempt to
#2 all the bbc interviewer could respond with is "yea but look britain, france and germany support kosovo's independance" well mayb britain france and germany are the same facist peaces of shit that were allways against the serbs
It is clearly understandable that Serbia FM is inexperienced. In addition, he could not give clear and unambigious facts why Kosovo should not be independent.
Therefore, as an albanian from Kosovo, I would like to congratulate Serbia for their independence that Kosovo will give them very soon.
Albanians don't get it. The only roads from Europe to Kosovo come from Serbia. Shut off Kosovo's power. Shut off their gas. Their water. Roads. Take all Serb parts and move our forces in there. Collapse what little economy they have. Pretty soon they will start killing themselves. Serbia doesn't need to get involved in another war. EU? What do you need them for? Average EU citizen is $30,000 in debt. Average Serb, $1000? maybe less. Lets play this smart.
When you hear this journalist, and how he talks and what are his arguments and questions to Serbian Minister, you see in which shit EU is as we speak. We are witnessing that one small but brave nation is teaching us our own democracy. Amazing...
Well, 15 years ago this "small and brave" nation already tried using all means to prevent Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia from leaving the rotten mindset that prevails in that nation's political elite. Vuk Jeremic is wastly outnumbered in his own country by people no one in his right mind would want to live with. He's tolerated because everything the nationalists tried before failed.
Your comment is just...I dont know, ignorant. Please, stop watching Croatioan National TV and read a little bit further. I dont want to comment on your comment, your words dont deserve it.
The video is obviously here for propaganda purposes, and whilst there is nothing bad in it, truth also has to be said. Jeremic doesn't rule Serbia as this interview might indicate, he's tolerated by the nationalist majority. His own boss is the personification of Serbia, he already showed Jeremic's party that he can rule without them if they don't play the nationalist way. Remember the short-living parlament's president from the radical party?
My opinion is that Jeremic's party went into the coalition with Kostunica only because they know too well that otherwise the radicals, who by the way won the elections, would lead Serbia into another catastrophy. The problem here is, no one around thrusts Serbia. It is exactly because their democratic potential proved null-zero-void that everyone around, including former ally Montenegro, doesn't want to be associated with them in any kind. Over & out.
first thing: you got it wrong with the CROissant asshole! second thing: you fucking murderers ar the ones to STFU! aight fag!? you lost every war you started! who's the stupid one here? who's the cromagnon?
MrHellraiser82834 1 month ago
Jeremic je govno izdajnicko... puu mamu mu jebem u picku!!!
MrGiljotina 6 months ago in playlist Kosovo-Srbija 2
It is all for the ratings ... questions are bull...., the journalist is a fool, the war was generated or sponsored by the US, UK and a few more just to get what they want and that is an american base in Kosovo, lots of ore and fertile land; naturally after the war, after they bombed most of the infrastructure and came in as saviors, everything was cheap and it was easy to steel what they needed ... and they still make money of it with the press ... it is so absurd but that is who they really are
Sygorg 7 months ago in playlist Kosovo-Srbija
koji je debil ovaj voditelj...Jeremic je genijalan ! Samo napred!
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jeli Vuche.... shto mu nisi drknu shamarchinu svaki put kada ti je upao u rech?????? ......ja bi to tako....PLjAS...shut up,i'm talking now...PLjAS....pi...nekulturna...pa josh jedaput....PLjAS kao pravi srbin
tecasrk 1 year ago
jeli Vuche.... shto mu nisi drknu shamarchinu svaki put kada ti je upao u rech?????? ......ja bi to tako....PLjAS...shut up,i'm talking now...PLjAS....pi...nekulturna...pa josh jedaput....PLjAS kao pravi srbin
tecasrk 1 year ago
We're already European you ignorant fuck!
bezibre87 1 year ago
@bezibre87 Now you can mark kosovo on map as part of Serbia but on the ground it's not. If Usa does not give a shit about us why does serbia not attack us? Let them come and soon you'll see B52 over Belgrade just like in 1999.
KoSoVaAnGeL 1 year ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL Are you retarded? Americans won't defend you but themselves, they need Kosovo and Metohija and not some ungrateful immigrants that are mostly criminals. Serbs were tolerant enough to let you multiply like freaking rabbits and this is how you show your gratitude.
bezibre87 1 year ago
@bezibre87 But regrettably for you, you do not know nothing about Serbs, we fought off many strong adversaries (Ottomans, Austro-Hungary, we said FU to Nazi Germany) and you think that a bunch of animals can do this and hope to have no problems. You're gone, you just don't know it yet.
bezibre87 1 year ago
The British , as exemplified by this interviewer , are such smug holier-than-thou hypocrites . They created Israel , witness the results of their meddling there .
BBC would not allow the broadcast for Gaza aid .
That did it for me as far as respect for the BBC is concerned .
That the Serbs bear guilt for the war , I personally agree , but Jeremic is right in his big point ; Kosovo is not a matter to be decided in haste by EU beurocrats .
dedosdigital 2 years ago
If we treat Serbs bad USA/EU wont help us because they have helped us to create a Kosova where all people can live in peace. Including Serbs.
If we fuck up we're going to pay. We're not that stupid to hurt Serbs. Okay in 2004 there was that shit but I don't think it will happen again. reason why is because lifeis getting better in kosova. many countries gave us alot of cash to have a better life.
I am honest on this because no one is paying me anything to say this.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL
No, they didn't bombed Serbia so the Serbs can live in peace.
I also don't think ethnic cleansing of 2004 will happen again, because there are simply no more Serbs to be cleansed. Also, you need some Serbs around so you and your NATO chiefs could say: "YOU SEE, WE HAVE A TRUE MULTIETHNIC COMMUNITY".
mitrowsky 2 years ago 3
mitrowsky....No there are enough serbs in Kosova and they keep comming back every day. I have friends all over Kosova who say that they are getting their Serbs back. Not those who left Kosova in 2004 but those in 1999. By the way those who left Kosova in 2004 are from Bosnia and Croatia. Authorities here have confirmed that more than once.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL said: "If we fuck up we're going to pay. We're not that stupid to hurt Serbs. "
But back in 1998. and 1999. killing Serbs was far from stupid. Don't you think?
mitrowsky 2 years ago
mitrowsky...You didn't understand me. In 1998-1999 we got a strong back up from the west to start something and get nothing but everything. Kosova of course. In 1998-1999 Albanians didn't kill Serb civilians, we killed only Police and Soldiers. It was a plan that started to create ground in 1995. mitrowsky...The west knew that we had to get out of Serbia. For the west it was better to finish it before new Millennium. That what happened.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL Vuk Jeremic is Bosnian bastard son. His father is Hamdija Pozderac. He paid his studies in most expensive universities in world. But he never liked to recognize him as his legal son. That is why Vuk Jeremic hates Muslims so much.
esad71 1 year ago
@esad71 how do you know that man? is that really true? tell me more about it!
PS: long live Kosovo!
MrHellraiser82834 1 month ago
Today in end of 2009 it is very important to understand that things are getting well, not only for us in Kosova but alos for Serbia. It is true that many Serbs wanted to get over this issue and point their eyes at EU. Serbia is making many mistakes but those mistakes are very small to stop Serbia from being in EU.
Thank God we didn't have any wars when we declared independence.
Thank God Serbia this time didn't act like Milosevic.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
Sure the things are getting well for Albanians when Serbs and other minorities have been expelled from their own land.
mitrowsky 2 years ago
mitrowsky..Just go in Kosova yourself. Albanians don't have a good house while our Government is bulding good houses for Serbs. In fact many serbs who come from Serbia in Kosova are very happy because serbia has left them without anything.
Serbia as a country doesn't care about it's people. I'm in Kosova and I can see things with my own eyes. You can come and have a look for yourself. You will change your mind straight away.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL
Unfortunately, as a Serb I just cannot go to Kosovo. I would probably be kidnapped or shot dead.
Kosovo institutions may actualy build some houses for minorities (with whose money?!) just for show.
mitrowsky 2 years ago
mitrowsky...This is wrong. I am living here man. I can see life in here. Why you making me blind when I can see? I swear by God Serbs are moving around without fearing of their lifes. Please don't say this. You know there are those serbs who call for KFOR to move them around in Kosova. That is true but KFOR have said that there is not danger anymore. I am honest Serbs are not our enemy in Kosova because it's us who rule Kosova.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL
Of course KFOR is saying situation is SAFE because it is in their interest. Serbs and other minorities now need KFOR but KFOR is just extended arm of NATO which provided Albanians this pseudo-state of Kosovo. Serbs needs protection from KFOR because there is no one else to protect them from albanian terror.
mitrowsky 2 years ago
@KoSoVaAnGeL Bottom line is, if you think you'll have independent country, then you're delusional. The only reason why you can suck in air in Kosovo and Metohija is because of Americans, they don't give a shit about you, Albania is a ghetto nation and you're ghetto-mannered people.
bezibre87 1 year ago
@bezibre87 USA's supremacy won't last long, they can try to secure every possible corner of the world, China, North Korea, Russiaare fully aware of American "peaceful" intentions. Ask yourself what will happen when they are gone, thousands of Mujahidin won't be able to help you.
bezibre87 1 year ago
@bezibre87....I am not thinking. Are you out of your mind? Go to Kosova by plain or ground. When you approach the border of Kosovo it will say welcome to republic of Kosova. Type in google kosovo passports. You see we have passports. Go by plain to kosova. When you land you will get a stamp where it says Kosova not Unmik.
KoSoVaAnGeL 1 year ago
mitrowsky..Of course we are building houses for Serbs with EU money. As you know Kosova is not Dubai or New York. Serbia has sucked our blood out of our heart. I can't speak Serbian but I know a saying in kosova. Trepca is radi belgrad is gradi. meaning something like Trepca is working belgrad is getting build. A gold mine near Mitrovica. We have been left back. EU is giving us money which we are using to build a kosovi for all it's people.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
mitrowsky..Some Serbs who live in Kosova are paid from belgrad to say bad things. Like they are not living good etc. They want us to look bad. I mean we have just declared independence. Whole world is looking at us what we do with Serbs. So what do Serbs do? Cry and say we're killing them etc. On Euronews,CNN,BBC,DW I don't see it on Serb TV you can see those well paid serbs from belgrad who say we're suffering, albanians shot at us etc. Not true honest it's not true.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
They decided to give independence to lead Serbia into the EU without Kosovo, and you would not enter the European Union probably never as an independent state. For them independece of Kosovo is only one solution of problems of migration of milions of Muslims ( you) in the EU, when Serbia get in.
Once inside the EU, Serbia will never accept that Kosovo will join as an independent country as you know well..as today day Slovenia not accepting Croatia to joing because of the problems between them.
srowntv 2 years ago
srowntv..What's the problem with Spani? Why do you people support a country which is not supported from almost all EU nations? Spain to me was always a West country but those days it changed my mind when it was against us. If usa/uk/Germany/italy support us why not spain? I have no idea why you guys are so evil.
On the other side we don't really have any problems with you. Why do you have a problem with us? Very strange if you ask me. I can't understand it.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
srowntv..Greece, Slovakia, Cyprus have some reasons why not to accept us. They have supported Serbia in all wars they started. Spain is very far to have anything to do with the wars. I've meet many spanish people and also many Albanians in France,Italy,UK,Germany and Switzerland who are married with spanish girls. My oncle has his wife from Spain who now can speak very good albanian. My question is is it the government who is crazy or what? We in Kosova watch spanish serials. I don't get it.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
srowntv..About us being muslims and not being able to join eu if serbia is in eu before us...I think you're stucked in a drak room. You need light in order to see things. If you watch news careful you will see that EU is about to create a special rule for all the eu memebrs. That rule means to accept Kosovo so that they can hold eu presidency. If they don't they're not going to hold eu presidency.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
I will also remind you that an important factor in organized crime throughout Europe and Spain as well coming from Kosovan albanians. Here in Spain almost no robbery, murder or any other form of crime that Kosovan albanians are not involved in it.
So, we all know well man, who you people are..so don't you think that the states which even recognize you don't know the facts about you.
srowntv 2 years ago
By the way we're fine without spain as long as we're fine with spanish girls treating us good. We don't need spain to like us. We're fine without you.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
Countries like UK, Italy and Germany have recognized you for the sake of their personal interests. To reduce the immigration on their territories of Albanian population from Kosovo, which has threatened that if you do not get independence, will settle there. Also for us was, and still is the fact that the way you achieve independence is not democratic way.
I also have many friends who were on a mission to Kosovo, and I can tell you that everyone thinks like me ..
srowntv 2 years ago
mitrowsky...More than 95.000 Serbs move in Kosova from Bosnia and Croatia after Serbia lost both wars. I know this because in 1994-95-96 Serbia has build many blocks in Prishtina so that they could live in here.
Anyway I do not think the west would support us in Killing Serbs. I really don't think so.
I do agree that KFOR is here to help us and not the Serbs but after 2005 it's there to safe the Serbs.
After 2008 they're not protecting anyone because we have what we wanted.
KoSoVaAnGeL 2 years ago
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sanjate jebem vas boga citate malo historiju
fuck off
Kastrioti1405 3 years ago
Citamo, i istorija kaze da je Kosovo Srpsko. Kosovo is Serbia.
ZZRZZRZRZR 2 years ago 3
Kosovo and Metohia are, and always will be Serbia.
oLeonidas 3 years ago 9
@oLeonidas not anymore fag! you lost it fag!
MrHellraiser82834 2 months ago
@MrHellraiser82834 CROissant call me a fag. Nonsense. STFU cromagnon savage!
oLeonidas 1 month ago
Kosovo je Srbija. Kosovo is Serbia.
MaximBGD 3 years ago 3
Bravo Jeremicu...samo napred!!
SerbianGangsta1 3 years ago 5
@SerbianGangsta1
hahaha evome vam kurac bre.. pa vas presedfnik pzinaje bosnu i hercegovinu
harizzo 1 year ago
Yes, but official data concerning albanian deaths can be counted up to 12.000.
The claim about 3000 serbs is simply not true. And its not a matter of point of view, its a matter of facts.
And facts, non-serb websites that is, can easily be found on the internet.
It's a clear lack of repsect for history when saying that serbs suffered as much as albanians (or bosniaks or croatians for that matter). Facts show that this is absurd and I think you know it too.
swedish is my first language.
Tracking88 3 years ago
It is a matter of point of view when you apply one frame of thought to other situations that you consider comparable which is what you admit to doing. This is only one example of point of view skewing a person's reasoning. There's also a great amount of data available of pre-1990s events that may clarify things for you if you want to see whether you have the complete picture.
369gx 3 years ago
You are really not convincing me with your words. It is clear that you are biased and very partial. One just has to look at your YT-page and watch your clips, several with yugoslavian/serbian clips. So lets just point that out.
Well, as a serb, you should know that statistics and numbers never favour serbian interests, considering the actions of serbs in the history. There are no numbers in the world that can change that Serbia lost its right to controll Kosovo. That is the reality.
Tracking88 3 years ago
I'll send you a message so that I can respond to all this at once without having to do it with multiple installments and upset the video uploader.
369gx 3 years ago
I stated my conclusions and respond to your last statement similarly to how you responded to my last statement ("this is absurd and I think you know it too"). Only that I think that you do not "know it" just yet.
Serbian is my first language, but I learned English early. By the way, I wish to express my greatest admiration towards Sweden for all of its progress towards Social Democracy. I've been there five times so far. Its truly wonderful. I sincerely mean it.
369gx 3 years ago
Ok, Sweden is not going towards social democracy, it is going clearly to the right.
The new government is right-winged.
Tracking88 3 years ago
And I hope that you honestly dont think that 3000 serbs were killed.
You got those facts from wikipedia, and the source for that number (if you look it up) come from 2 serb sites. Not that reliable.
Tracking88 3 years ago
Excuse me for the grammar, I wrote it in a hurry.
Tracking88 3 years ago
HAHAHA you americans think that u can get serbs down like that just waith until russia get war with usa...
srbijaboi 3 years ago
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Kosovo is center of crime. Population is uneducated, streets are dirty,no electricity,no industry,black market is spread,non Albanians are living in fear...and in that condition is very easy to manipulate with people.Kosovars needs visa for every European village,Europe closed them in gheto.43 countries recognized Kosovo as independent.But that is all.What is with rest 162 states? So,life goes on, but unfortunately not on the Kosovo! Slovenac
medolino2007 3 years ago
Ethnic cleansing and genocide are not measured solely by death tolls. The intentional eradication of an ethnic group from an area and the systematic destruction of its culture are also part of genocide. And you seem to forget that there were 10,000 Albanians killed and 3,000 Serbians killed in the war, but 250,000 Serbians permanently cleansed from their homes.
369gx 4 years ago
I think its worse to die, than to be expelled from a home.
Tracking88 3 years ago
I have not experienced either so I cannot speak of what it must feel like for the victim. However, the net effect by those committing the crime is the same - removal of the undesired population by force. Either way, I wanted to point out that both Serbs and Albanians are victims here. Determining which one is more of a victim is a matter of point of view in too many of the cases.
369gx 3 years ago
Serbs expelled from their homes after the war in Kosovo were not expelled by albanian officialls or any government. The vast majority of serbs left because they feared a strike-back by albanians.
Interesting is that the albanian people of Kosovo was systematically expelled and murdered by the government of Serbia (then Yugoslavia).
It smells very much like propaganda when claiming that albanians and serbs are !equally victims". That is simply not true and it shows that serbia won't moved on.
Tracking88 3 years ago
Okay. That's one person's opinion and I won't object to it. There are plenty of opportunities to question your own point of view, the point of view of your sources, and to answer the question of whether you are being truly honest with yourself. I'm saying this b/c I've gone through this process and my prior statements were made after the process's completion.
There is so much data on the cleansing of both groups that it would be a joke when attempted to summarize here.
369gx 3 years ago
So, if you really are interested in the events of the last 12 years in Kosovo, I suggest going through all the respectable publications out there. Its fairly straightforward but time-consuming. The data that I mentioned was probably non-Wiki that I used for personal study.
Don't worry about grammar. As long as you get the message across who cares. Seriously. I hate it when ppl attack others based on proficiency in English grammar.
If English is your 2nd language, then you're doing a great job
369gx 3 years ago
...South Africa, South Korea, Uganda, Ukraine... yep the whole world
369gx 4 years ago
edit *not just locally, but rather globally.*
--> Meaning that those who support illegal secessionists are not truly democratic, rather they are the ones exhibiting dictatorial tendencies.
One thing is ethnic Albanian self-determination another is the forceful violation of international law set to protect all nations and people of the world.
369gx 4 years ago
Don't forget Serbs practiced ethnic genocide do you think the world is blind that's why the entire world is with Kosovo. When Serbs practiced ethnic cleansing international law no longer applies to Serbia. No need to dispute this anymore... Real Fact no body wants to be part of Serbia
redfirekla 4 years ago
I just can't forget the violence and ethnic cleansing practices by Albanians.
mitrowsky 4 years ago
The whole world is with Kosovo... aha. The whole world minus Azerbaijan, Belarus, Cyprus, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Argentina, Bangladesh, BiH, Brazil, Canada, China, Colombia, Egypt, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Israel, Macedonia, Malta, MNE, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Portugal, Singapore
369gx 4 years ago
You don't forget that the ethnic Albanians also committed ethnic cleansing (i.e. genocide). In the past 10 years - 10,000 Albanians and 3,000 Serbians died. Read up on WWII also. Perhaps, they skip over this part in Albanian text books. Whether or not international law applies to a given nation is for the body governing over the application of international law and policy to decide and not for laymen or individual nations to decide. Congrats on your Bananë Republikë of Kosovë
369gx 4 years ago
I have to say I'm a huge fan of Vuk Jeremic. Bachelor of Arts in Theoretical Physics from U Cambridge, Master in Public Administration from Harvard U. Truly, a brilliant individual.
As long as the people who are celebrating in Kosovo, now, remain there (i.e. do not spread to North Kosovo, MNE, central Serbia, Skopje) we have little to worry about - minimal difference in our day-to-day lives other than the realisation of which nations are true democracies, not on a locally, but rather globally.
369gx 4 years ago
jeremic what you offered to albanians was already offered to them and taken away.... Stop avoiding the reality, and answer the questions correctly don't go around in a loop, Kosovo will never be part of Serbia again... You can't list some BS claiming kosovo when you practiced genocide on Albanians and then try to force them to be part of your country... it's an impossibility
redfirekla 4 years ago
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redfirekla 4 years ago
ur a stupid idiot u killed albanian terrorist so killing woman and children is killing terrorist stupid bitch. serbias propoganda will never work everyone will see through it.
staticxx7 4 years ago
mladibosnjaci --- STUPID Bosnian JOKE .... ALBANIANS are supported by USA ,.,... WE turn to RUSSIA .... PUTIN come and BUILD your bases in SERBIA and Republic Of Srpska(Bosnia) .... KOSOVO is SERBIA/////
aviomaster 4 years ago
Four astronauts land on the moon. An American, a German and two Serbs.
The American jumps out and plants a flag on the surface exclaiming that US money made their mission possible.The German stuck in his own flag proclaiming that it was German scientific knowledge that made it possible. One of the Serbs reached into his pocket pulled out a gun & shot the other Serb.Then he proclaimed"Serbian blood has been spilled here, so the moon will be Serbian now forever."
mladibosnjaci 4 years ago
In 1999, when he was President of Finland, Marti Ahtisaari's government planned to honor and to commemorate Finland's Nazi Waffen SS volunteers during the Holocaust and World War II.
jakojako777 4 years ago
One more thing, from now on I will not post anymore on this topic and will delete any further post by tarce604. He and I have said enough and obviously we are unable to make any progress.
mitrowsky 4 years ago
Genocide and mass murder is not the same thing. There was no genocide committed by Serb forces, which cannot be said for the Albanian Terrorists.
mitrowsky 4 years ago
Serb forces committed genocide(s) and mass murder all over the former Yugoslavia including kosovo, this was repeated on your video. What do you think prompted the nato bombing campaign on belgrade? Your denial of these serbian atrocities is a good example why kosovo cannot stay under serb rule, serbs need to stop denying their evildoings and aggression as a first step but sadly that will not happen. Yes the Albanians committed atrocities in defense and in response to the serbian aggression.
tarce604 4 years ago
Albanians commited genocide on Serbs with support of USA. USA used and is still using Albanian people as puppets. You are in denial when denying :)
mitrowsky 4 years ago
I am asking again: WHICH mass murders?
mitrowsky 4 years ago
WHICH mass murders? I've already mentioned it in my comments and there is no need to repeat them again. Why dont you try watching this video that you yourself posted? The host brings up the mass murders and jeremic himself has no response or defense.
tarce604 4 years ago
you seem to be pressing for this forgive and forget policy. following your reasoning, your supervisor at work can punch you in the mouth and then demand that you don't claim any compensation. Now imagine when people are killed and in the magnitude of what happened, I think you are insane to think the border should be respected based on your forgive and forget policy. Independence is a fair compensation for what happened, its not like someone is marching into Belgrade to match the killing spree.
tarce604 4 years ago
Well, let's just wait and see if this independence that the Albanians in Kosovo one way or the other are going to declare is going to lead to any long lasting peace and stability in the region. I am telling you, you cannot punish a country for what happened 10 years ago by depriving it of its lands.
1Larz1 4 years ago
Well there is conflict between the two sides even without the independence, this is nothing new and you should know that. I am telling you, you cannot punish the Albanian victim's and reward the Serbian perpetrators. We must deprive servia of its land so the entire world knows that you cannot kill your neighbour and get away with it.
tarce604 4 years ago
you have a legitimate point although as I said, it must all be done in accordance with the already established international principles of law and order. Because what bothers me are basically two things:
1. How would it be possible for a newly created micro state in the heart of the Balkans to find its way both politically and economically among the rest of Europe?
1Larz1 4 years ago
I agree that international law must be obeyed and consequences for breaking these laws must occur for any justice to prevail; you can't simply change your government and expect no further consequences. This means that you cannot look at the independence case as an irresponsible act of not respecting international law but are the consequences of the Serbian side not following these laws by launching a systematic campaign of crime resulting in the deaths of 10,000 & ethnically cleansing 1million.
tarce604 4 years ago
It seems that everyone would rather be a micro state than be under belgrade's rule, remember that kosovo is not alone in this view. Moreover, kosovo is the poorest and most deprived region while under serbian rule, tie that in with genocide and there is little reason to want to continue living under serbian oppression. If genocide was not committed then some kind of compromise could have been made, this is why I said serbia should have offered these levels of self governing b4 hand.
tarce604 4 years ago
why don't we just take the half of Germany since what the German army did during WW2 was much worse than the atrocities against ethnic Albanians in the 90s.(I am not justifying them in any way). But most importantly, why are the Kosovo Albanians not willing to accept maximum self governance within Serbia? Don't you think it's all a part of a plan to build Greater Albania?
1Larz1 4 years ago
1Larz, I think you are able to see the whole image, unlike mr. tarce604. Tarce is non-stop talking about some genocide. What genocide? 100 000 Serbs were forced to leave Kosovo. 250 000 Serbs were forced to leave Croatia. It is all about great plan of western "democracies". Albanians were just used as a foot-soldiers and as an award they will receive yet another Albanian state.
mitrowsky 4 years ago
The serbs in kosovo had the full weight of Serbia behind them who in fact had one of the largest armies in europe. It is widely known that the serbs used this firepower to kill 10,000 albanians and ethnically cleansed 1 million. The serbs who left kosovo were not driven out by the albanians because they lacked the firearms to implement this. Trying to portray the serbs as the victims is wrong from the very beginning therefore we do not need to explore this.
tarce604 4 years ago
tarce: "it is widely known that the serbs used this firepower to kill 10,000 albanians and ethnically cleansed 1 million."
No, it is not widely known. Could you support your story by any document? Otherwise, this is just another attempt to demonize Serbs in the USA style.
mitrowsky 4 years ago
yes it is widely known and i'd recommend that you stop using serbian congress as your only authority in the matter.
tarce604 4 years ago
It's interesting that you compared serbs to nazi germany as the two have a lot in common with regards to committing genocide. Many territories were taken away from Germany because they were conquered through ethnic cleansing and genocide; Serbia will also lose some of its territories because of these practices. The Albanians are entitled to full independence so why would they settle for anything less? The Serbian people are the worst rulers of the 21st century & that's reason enough.
tarce604 4 years ago
2. How would this independence influence the ethnic Albanians in Macedonia, wouldn't that trigger yet another local conflict followed by another declaration of independence?
1Larz1 4 years ago
If the macedonians commited genocide against the albanians i imagine thats what would happen. Lets not forget kosovo is a province and not just a nieghbourhood. Moreover, its not a matter of population majority but because genocide was commited against them by the serbs.
tarce604 4 years ago
You are again talking about mass killings of Abanians by Serbs. What are you talking about man.
mitrowsky 4 years ago
yes mass killings of albanians by serbs....it was brought to the attention of mr jeremic in this video and he had no response or defence for it...do you only hear what you want to hear? that would explain your poor knowledge of the conflict.
tarce604 4 years ago
A very reasonable answers from Mr. Jeremic!
What a preposterous "Europe" the host there is trying to propose- Europe with no respect for sovereign states and their territories!
Well done, Mr. Jeremic!
Greetings from Bulgaria!
1Larz1 4 years ago
@!Larz!
the only way we will have a "presposterous" europe is if we tied up serbia and used a tug boat to sink them out to sea - that way there would be less retards and the air would be alot cleaner. and dont get me started on bugarska u ugly guy
tarce604 4 years ago
first of all be aware of the terms you use when you write in English. I am saying preposterous, meaning absurd and I believe you may mean prosperous, which is a different thing. Second of all, it cannot be possible that the EU forces Serbia as a democratic modern state to let go its territories while offering it a deal to join the EU quicker! This is not democracy and this is not how modern Europe should function!
1Larz1 4 years ago
I do believe that europe would be *preposterous* if kosovo remained a part of serbia. The Change in government was for Serbia's benefit and does not make up for the tens of thousands killed. This maximum self governance should have been offered b4 these war crimes were commited.
tarce604 4 years ago
I would agree with you, but I find this pressure on Serbia coming from the US and Europe wrong as Kosovo is, after all and at present Serbian territory, meaning an internal affair. There must be international dialogue but
1Larz1 4 years ago
We know how serbia deals with internal matters from its day of Yugoslavia. Moreover, the crimes of the genocide must be punished and what better way than independence? Its shameful how serbs at best assume minimal responsibility for what they did in kosovo and now would like to play forgive and forget, although folk tales of discrimination that they faced 500 years ago (along with everyone else) are used as justification for the genocide(s) on a daily basis.
tarce604 4 years ago
moreover, don't forget that Milosevic was put under a fair trial in the Hague after all and it was his Serbia that started the problem in first place. Imposing a successive punishment through independence and further local conflicts seems dangerous.
1Larz1 4 years ago
Yes Milosevic was put under a fair trial but he is a small fish doing what the people wanted him to do. I find that belgrade wants to use milosevic as the escape goat for what happened yet more than half the population of the cit deomonstrated the entire day to give milosevic the power to do what he did. I think the serbian people and politicians should be punished for this.
tarce604 4 years ago
this interviewer is absurd when claiming that the Serbian government should adhere to what Brussels says and this MUST be considered the right and the European solution to the problem. This is wrong as international law and principles don't involve making cheap deals over the territory of a sovereign nation...
1Larz1 4 years ago
If serbia was not guilty of such a systematic campaign of crimes then I would oppose the rules implemented by Brussels. If serbia ignored international law for its own interests then why shouldn't Brussels do the same thing?
tarce604 4 years ago
well the only question would be then...Why should this terrible violation of international law principles that undoubtedly happened back in the 90s be corrected by another serious violation of these very values- integrity of borders and sovereignity. It's an awful situation and I hope that a peaceful way out could be found although it becomes more and more difficult with every single day...
1Larz1 4 years ago
Integrity of borders cannot be protected if half of the population has been ethnically cleansed and tens of thousands killed in standard serbian fashion. The declaration of independence is not nearly as bad as genocide so I don't see how this a terrible measures as you put it; nobody is dying. The serbs have given up their right to govern kosovo for such actions and it would be a serious message to the world if kosovo stayed as a part of Serbia, you cant kill your neighbors and get away with it.
tarce604 4 years ago
I know there were atrocities towards Albanians and I this is a bad thing. But Serbia nowadays has a democratic government and it DOES offer Kosovo maximum self governance as we heard it from the foreign minister. So I think independance would be a utterly wrong move here.
1Larz1 4 years ago
but most of all, I can't imagine this "host" could be so biased while interviewing...
1Larz1 4 years ago
Well done, Jeremic. Strong answers to tough questions.
iluvsdejo 4 years ago
#3 the demand is give kosovo up to be one of us (euro), um fuk u, we dont wanna trade out territory to join the EU
THE BBC interviewer could not respond in any way to any good points and kept on "saying yea u didnt answer my questioin" yes he did and ur in hotspot with nothing to say
ludeman21 4 years ago 2
visarp u are afuking idiot plain and simple. #1 he answered all the questions clearly with facts and if u do not understand english please at least attempt to
#2 all the bbc interviewer could respond with is "yea but look britain, france and germany support kosovo's independance" well mayb britain france and germany are the same facist peaces of shit that were allways against the serbs
ludeman21 4 years ago
It is clearly understandable that Serbia FM is inexperienced. In addition, he could not give clear and unambigious facts why Kosovo should not be independent.
Therefore, as an albanian from Kosovo, I would like to congratulate Serbia for their independence that Kosovo will give them very soon.
visarp 4 years ago
Albanians don't get it. The only roads from Europe to Kosovo come from Serbia. Shut off Kosovo's power. Shut off their gas. Their water. Roads. Take all Serb parts and move our forces in there. Collapse what little economy they have. Pretty soon they will start killing themselves. Serbia doesn't need to get involved in another war. EU? What do you need them for? Average EU citizen is $30,000 in debt. Average Serb, $1000? maybe less. Lets play this smart.
ls1983 4 years ago
When you hear this journalist, and how he talks and what are his arguments and questions to Serbian Minister, you see in which shit EU is as we speak. We are witnessing that one small but brave nation is teaching us our own democracy. Amazing...
freeonebg 4 years ago
Well, 15 years ago this "small and brave" nation already tried using all means to prevent Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia from leaving the rotten mindset that prevails in that nation's political elite. Vuk Jeremic is wastly outnumbered in his own country by people no one in his right mind would want to live with. He's tolerated because everything the nationalists tried before failed.
lampas89 4 years ago
Your comment is just...I dont know, ignorant. Please, stop watching Croatioan National TV and read a little bit further. I dont want to comment on your comment, your words dont deserve it.
freeonebg 4 years ago
The video is obviously here for propaganda purposes, and whilst there is nothing bad in it, truth also has to be said. Jeremic doesn't rule Serbia as this interview might indicate, he's tolerated by the nationalist majority. His own boss is the personification of Serbia, he already showed Jeremic's party that he can rule without them if they don't play the nationalist way. Remember the short-living parlament's president from the radical party?
lampas89 4 years ago
My opinion is that Jeremic's party went into the coalition with Kostunica only because they know too well that otherwise the radicals, who by the way won the elections, would lead Serbia into another catastrophy. The problem here is, no one around thrusts Serbia. It is exactly because their democratic potential proved null-zero-void that everyone around, including former ally Montenegro, doesn't want to be associated with them in any kind. Over & out.
lampas89 4 years ago