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  • People are still comparing these two ? lol, not even a comparison. Did rondo even make t he all star team this year hahaha nope. The celtics are getting old, rondo won't get another ring for a long time when those veterans (kg, pierce, and allen) retire. D rose is still young and is the MVP, may win it again. Just stop, ask your self this... Who would you rather have on your team , D rose or rondo?

  • Rondo is the trigger, setter and the game maker... primary weapons? Allen KG and Pierce..

  • assist, steal, basketball IQ... its Rondo

  • look at the numbers that are shown in the video...and say derrick rose scores more? the numbers dont lie...lmao

  • I'd probably say D.Rose cause he put the Bulls on his back and carried them to the conference finals. Not saying Boozer and the others aren't good. I'm just saying KG, Allen, and Pierce are better.

  • Rondo is still the best! Now, and forever.

  • D Rose, D Will, Rondo, CP3 Are Great PG They Help There Team Win Games And Score Points..

    

  • they both suck ass, one can't shoot and the other can't pass, smh, Deron Williams and CP3 are the best

  • @ChillyCloth Do Williams and CP3 returned to the game just after to have a dislocated elbow? And Rondo can Pass, no doubt. Rose is very quick. They don't suck ass.

  • You can't say who's the best, they are like clones..

  • team Rondo! but I'm still a fan of rose :>

  • i dont why we make arguements over whos better. both have differnt playing style rondo is a play maker and rose is a scorer

  • hold up im high

  • rondo is a beast

  • #Team D.Rose

  • Rondo is a much better passer. Rose can pass but choses not to because he is a better scorer. rose is faster and can jump higher. rondo can make just about anybody on his team look like an all star and rose can just make himself look like an all star.  the celtics would not make it to the playoffs without rondo. their backup point guard is delonte west they wouldn't have a chance. rose is clearly a better shooter and all around scorer, but rondo is a much better passer and better defender.

  • Rajon rondo can make the worst players look good while d Rose can make the best Players look terrible... Two different Types of Players, not a fair Comparison.. Should make a D Rose vs Tony Parker.. Rajon Rondo vs Steve Nash..

  • @XxEzY88xX

    D rose is way better than tony parker and rondo is better than steve nash so it makes sense comparing them because their the two bests

  • rajon rondo gots nothing on derrick rose

  • si rajonnnn<3 sei il mijore tu sei il migliore xk sei un play pulito,puro derrfik è una guardia parliamoci kiaro beliii

  • TheBen67

    other than making plays rondo can't mess with rose.

  • Derek Rose don't need fakes to make guys look like a fool.

    

  • @holmesbball5 you spelt his name wrong even though it is in the title of the video that is pretty pathetic you shouldnt even be watching videos of him if you cant spell his name.

  • Is there a 2011 version of this video? lol...in 2014 Derrick Rose will be the best player in the NBA!

  • @TechMansoor he already is? wtf he is mvp of the league

  • They are both good. Except that Rose is more Scoring type of player, and Rondo is more like a real PG, he has a great court vision and can pass very well. If i had to vote i'd still probably vote for Rose :D

  • btw rondo also has very talanted players to pass to and they can drill shots. so thats why is assits are so much higher... idiots

  • @pielover997 and rose has kover (ray allen play style) boozer (KG playing style) Dang (close enough to pierce playing style) noah (same as perkins) and gibson is better then big bab i hate when bulls fans make excuses for why he dont pass the ball or why his assist are not as good

  • @314huSTLa56 just because they play the same position doesn;t mean that they have the same style. Do u seriously think korver, who didn't show up in the playoffs is anything close to the greatest 3 point scorer in the game? Are u seriously going to compare a 13 time allstar, MVP, NBA champ and Defensive prowess to a shitty Boozer. Noone is making excuses. The evidence is there

  • @nopiyiyiyiyi point is kover is a VERY VERY good shooter not better then ray allen but a VERY good shooter im not saying none of those players are better but they have the same playing style boozer is a fucking all star and last yr vs laker ray allen didnt show up

  • TheBen67

    If rondo the best in the world then why can't he beary shoot a three?

  • @24kbrant1 pgs are supposed to set up plays not launch 3s which rondo can do fine

  • rondo cant fuck with Derrick rose in the year of 2011

  • what's the name,on second song ?!??

  • 1:14 proves that all the Rose fans need to shut up. rondo is far more talented and the only reason he isn't playing as good is because he is surrounded by very old players. Rondo is the best point guard in the world

  • @TheBen67 WELL YOU CAN ONLY CONVINCE YOURSELF YOUR ALONE IN THAT DELUDED THINKING OF YOURS

  • @ryanr20091 rondo is a better point guard. rose is a better shooter

  • @TheBen67 well genius those stats are from the series the two played in 09 when d rose was a rookie. Big difference to now. And it must be hard to not know that. Rondo is a great pg and Rose is a great pg. Just appreciate them. They don't come around often. Its ignorant retards like you that has to claim one is better when the two aren't really comparable.

  • @neondion87 rondo is a better point guard. the job of a point guard is to set up plays for your team and let others score. rose is just a better shooter. rondo is better at everything else

  • its so early to compare them, lets see in 5 more years

  • DRose all da way!!!

  • hey rondo has the ring so whatever but i do like the derrick rose shoes

  • @munrochamberslove122 rose will get a ring soon enough

  • Rose>Rondo

  • why is that I always hear raps that consist of nothing but mutha fucka and nigga on basketball clips?

  • derrick rose is a WAY better scorer and can pass and get assists just as good as rondo. its not even close derrick rose is better. he took a poor team to the 3rd round of the playoffs.

  • only reason rondo was in the finals is due to his HOF teammates in pierce, kg, and allen. Rose has boozer, noah, and deng. not quite HOF material. Bullz will be back for revenge next year. MARK MY WORDS. GO BULLZ

  • i love me sum rondo!(: lol but d rose aint bhad !

  • @thunderstruck103085 rondo has played in finals.. twice.. 

  • rose is like a pg in a sg body type..

    RONDO is the MAN !

  • @thunderstruck103085 if rondo was in the bulls, the bulls would surely become a better defensive team.. deng and boozer would put up some numbers.. Rose never carried the bulls, the bulls played well all through out the season defensively.. and i dont think rose is that great of an offensive player.. yes he's explosive, but he is not an efficient pg..

  • gay.. you cant compare the two, its like comparing steve nash and kobe. rondo is a assister rose is a more all around PG. end of discussion

  • @Maxamilli245 well i havnt seen the bulls defeating the celtics in the playoffs for the past 3 years... celtics could have won 2 or 3 championships in the past 3 years if only they were healthy...

  • rrrooonnnnnddddoooo!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

  • People wanna throw Rondo's ONE ring up into conversation, but what you fail to realize is Rondo has ONE ring and has been playing since 06. Rose has only been playing for 3 yrs. and he has brought the Bulls as close to a championship since Jordan. Rose is young, so give him a few more years. Rondo is good, but Rose is a way better PG.

  • @MrRogermaris ..well kudos to rose and the bulls.. they really worked hard.. too bad rose and rondo never faced in the playoffs.. better luck next conference for the bulls and the c's

  • ILL SAY IT AGAIN, WHO THOUGHT DERRICK ROSE WOULD BE THIS GOOD THIS FAST. HE IS GREAT GREAT PLAYER. HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASKETBALL THIS YEAR. SO HE HAD A TOUGH SERIES TRYING TO CARRY HIS TEAM OVER 3 GREAT PLAYERS. ALL OF U HATERS ON HIM PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP. YOUR HOME TOWN DOESNT HAVE A TOP 3 POINT GUARD

  • how bout that..rose turns the ball over on a very crucial possession..

    no wonder he's mvp... tsk tsk

  • @binangkal EASY PHILIPINO, FOR GOD SAKE IT WAS ONE PLAY. ROSE HAS TO CARRY HIS TEAM ON HIS BACK WHILE THE THREE AMIOGOS TRY TRY TO STOP ONE GUY TO THREE. TOS ARE GONNA HAPPEN. ALSO HES 22 YEARS OLD MVP WITH A HELL OF A FUTURE COMING NEXT HERE. HAVE FUN IN PHILLY

  • @binangkal well i didnt see the celtics in the ECFs

  • @Maxamilli245 yeah... ur right, shooter? maybe.. he's a scorer, one dimensional.. not a complete package.. he's even struggling with the heat defense. cant figure out a way to score on half court sets.. no wonder he`s the mvp..

    bulls, most underrated team.. rose most overrated player...

  • play basketball and you'll understand why rondo is better....

  • @binangkal how? i have been playing bball my whole rose is more athletic a better shooter a more elite scorer a better defender and most impotantly the leagues MVP how can you argue with that?

  • No. really. Rondo has great finishers. KG, Pierce, Allen.. come on. Rose carries the team on his shoulders.

  • D rose is better but i like rondo 2 he is one of the best point PG defender but Rose improves every year...idk when he is going to stop he is scary

  • get off Roses dick you guys. Rondo is just as quick. These are circumstantial and Rose just has a mean crossover. two of the best

  • Rondo of Course

  • @memphisthree6 RONDO NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS NIGGA RONDO WASNT MVP LOL . YOU CANT BEAT THAT SHIT HIS ASS WATCHING D ROSE IN THE EAST FINALS

  • @ryanr20091 D-Rose finna Be at home 2 watchin the Finals LOL.Cough cough Somebody choked

  • @memphisthree6 it aint over yet nigga lol anyways what more you want from him his teammates are that good

  • @memphisthree6 I SEE YOUR A CELTICS FAN. U GUYS ARE DONE, ALSO THANKS FOR GIVING A FIGHT TO THE HEAT, YOU BARELY WON A GAME. THAT DIDT HELP MY BULLS AT ALL I WISHED MY BULLS FACED U GUYS WE WOULD OF KILLED U GUYS. ALSO, IT TOOK JORDAN 3 YEARS TO GET OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND AND 6 YEARS TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. THE BULLS AND DROSE HAVE A BRIGHTER FUTURE THEN YOUR OLD BUMS. HAVE FUN REBUILDING

  • @MrRogermaris Ok because the Bulls are out too, The Last time chicago been to the Finals was the Jordan Era, Rose would never get to the Finals Like Rondo. Rondo has one more ring than Rose.lol

  • @memphisthree6are u saying the bulls will never get to the finals with rose wouldnt bet that. first hes 22 with a great coach for the future. these are the years compared to jordan when they needed to put pieces around him we will eventually find the right combo of players we are set at the two most important positions pg and center. plus facing u guys will be a breeze now if u guys make that far. finally rondo does have one ring and rose 0, for now but that 1 for rondo will be one for long time

  • @MrRogermaris Rondo has one ring Where's Rose Ring??? case closed

  • @memphisthree6 have u been reading my comments at all. rondo has one ring. rose 0 for now. i think its time to admit that your team is done and wont be winning a championship for awhile. the heat crushed you and my bulls have shown we can beat you. lets see if you can make it the second round first. you guys had your fun for 3 years and now its time to go back to rebuilding have fun.My bulls are young hungry and ready to take the next step next year rose will retire the better player no question

  • @memphisthree6 Rose has been in the league for how long. Now? 3yrs--Right. Rondo JUST got his ring last year. People aren't giving Rose enough credit for bringing a team who hasn't been this far since Jordan, to this point. If he's doing this @ 22yrs old--imagine how he will be in the future. DAMAGE is all I can say.

  • @memphisthree6 thats not rondos ring get that through your head he was a role player then not a major piece . he wasnt even known then really . everyonelse ray allen paul pierce kg was the main and only reason that ring was won. he was basically a srub back then and cant get credit for ring that he was never reason the reason . you have to be a the reason a team wins . rose is the main guy on his team rondo still isnt haaa like the fourth wheel

  • Rondo aint shit without the big three he cant even do half the shit that derek rose does on the court real talk man holla at my boy sir charles he will tell you wats up

  • @memphisthree6 put rondo in the bulls and lets see if he can carry the bulls that far. lol rondo looks better because of the stars around him. so stfu ignorant tard lol

  • @thunderstruck103085 Rondo has a ring Rose Doesnt Case Closed

  • @memphisthree6 as if he gets it by himself lol case closed ignorant tard

  • @MrRogermaris Get a Ring.lol

  • @memphisthree6 d rose watched nba finals. rondo watched east finals and nba finals lol. early exit for ya hahaha

  • @thunderstruck103085 Still no Ring.....

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  • @memphisthree6 lol your making your self ignorant by bringing up the ring issue. bye haha

  • @memphisthree6 neither does rondo its kg paul pierce and allens ring

  • Rondo is smarter than Rose..!!! THUMBS UP

  • anyone know the song @ 3:21?

  • uh lets see Rose is better than Rondo at scoring

    Rondo is better than Rose at rebounding, passing, defence, shooting%, TO/assist ratio, efficiency, team player, triple doubles, and most importantly, the playoffs

  • @cb4allstar4 First off if you analyze these stats, lets realize that Rondo does not score so his FG% is highly inflated. He has no jumpshot and shoots 54% from the FT line!!! Thats atrocious for a guard. I say perform a hack a shaq on his ass at the end of the game. Now lets further analyze the fact that he plays with 3 HOF's who can create their own shots and move well without the ball. Passing the ball to Ray Allen or The Truth off of screens does not rank high on my list! D-Rose is BETTER!!

  • @charlesmustang lmao Rondo still averaged .477 FG averaging 20ppg these playoffs Rose is 28ppg on 41% haha what a fucking ballhog everyone says he shoots too much and remember game 2? 7/23 airballed last 2 three pointers and really? thats the lamest excuse I've ever heard for assists "good finishers" lol Kyle Korver? Noah? Deng? Bogans? look at Chicago's 3 point shooting and didnt Nash have the best pick and roll player in Stoudemire lol such an excuse "good finishers" HAHAHAHA

  • @cb4allstar4 Did u seriously just lump Luol Deng, Keith Bogans and Kyle Korver to Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. You see Rondo has clear lanes because the main threats to score are sitting on the perimeter or coming off screens. Derrick Rose on the other hand is double teamed consistently because it is understood that his threat of scoring trumps everyone else. Rondo is overrated for what he does, he cant shoot and he has a 54%FT. Three years when its Rondo only, he will be exposed as such!

  • @charlesmustang sooo you still havent proven why Rose is a SHITTYASS defender, even Nash wouldnt make Jeff Teaughe and Collison look like all stars, or that Rondo is still more of an efficient scorer, better rebounder, better passer Rose is the MOST OVERRATED player in the league right now its all perceived flashiness haha and Rondo's career is like 64% FT not 54% and atleast Rondo doesnt shoot 40% from the field like Rose if Rondo was doubled, his assists will go way up and he is doubled alot

  • @cb4allstar4 First, its very evident that Derrick Rose is not a shitty defender, furthermore, Teague who is your only validation only managed the game, hardly worth citing as an example. Secondly, how is it that a PG averages 54% from the line? Derrick ROse is asked to carry the load, while Rondo is not needed for any win which was displayed in the series against Miami. They had a better team with West on the floor because he stretched it. Rondo is a liability against an athletic team, Overrated

  • @charlesmustang man you are fucking stupid Chicago allows 8.1 more points per 100 possession when Rose is on the floor vs off look up your fucking stats he lets defenders blow by and he gambles too much plays over the pick thats why ball handlers easily drive on him remember today? he jumped on Wade even when Noah already had him good and lets see Rose even play with a dislocated elbow duh I'd take a healthy West over a one handed Rondo and really, Rondo overrated? LOOOOOOOLLLL come again

  • @cb4allstar4 And how many points do they score with him on the floor? Its obvious that as the stat whore you are, u lack the means to actually watch the games Derrick Rose plays in. You lack to see the impact he has on the court and it is clear that you lack the basketball I.Q. when analyzing how important someone is to their team. Rondo is good because of the pieces around him, Rose is better because he engineers the offense, while @ the same time being charged with being the offensive catalyst

  • @charlesmustang oh oh GREAT fucking analysis dipshit when Nash made his teammates in Phoenix when they were already stacked? haha the pieces around Rondo work BECAUSE of him Derrick Rose is single handedly shooting his team into losses and his horrible defence is getting killed by Wade and really? Doesnt Noah and Deng engineer the offence cuz Noah is in the middle which means he can pass or shoot and Deng is a deadly efficient scorer sorry I dont think you even know basketball

  • @cb4allstar4 Ok first Noah has no plays run for him and no the offense does not run through Deng, because his game is predicated on coming off the ball, do to the fact that he is not a great ball handler. Rondo is asked to become the facilitator for 3 HOF's and thats it! Rose shoots for volume because he is a consistent threat when the ball is in his hands. He plays solid defense in Thibs system and still gets his teammates involved. Last I checked 8 asst per game is very good dumbass!

  • @charlesmustang lolol Noah happens to be an amazing big men passer and I already told you thats the lamest excuse ever for Rondo getting assists, that he has finishers doesnt Rose have Boozer, Noah, Deng, Korver and LMAO he plays good defence yeah and Steve Nash is the greatest dunker of all time Chicago allows 8.1 more points per 100 possessions when Rose is on the floor vs off, and how much more proof do you need all the point guards playing against him are getting easy penetration and points

  • @cb4allstar4 MVP doesnt lie

  • @Maxamilli245 MVP is an excuse 2008 Chris Paul was definitely better than 2011 Derrick Rose but he didnt get MVP

  • @charlesmustang Furthermore, Rose's stats trumps Rondo's anyday 54% WHat the Fuck is that!!!?

  • how many time has rose fucked up his ankle n still palys

  • @poitrPR27 how is he crying he jus hurt ankle d rose was on defense so tell me how was he crying he sprained his ankle RONDO BOSTON CHAMPOINS

  • @atantant4 rose better im sorry and dont say passing or success because if rondo was on bulls it would mean no sucess he can pass and score in paint done

  • well, Rose is a better player but Rondo is a better point guard

  • he's the mvp

    

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  • ROSE

  • Rose will toast rondo even on his bad days and what's the name of the second song?

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  • Rose is better but I hate the people who say Rondo can't score. He can score almost at will, it's just that he has so many assets around him (Pierce, Ray, KG, etc.) that he chooses to be a team player.

  • rondo is the best

    he has a ring and rose got nuthing

  • @Hd23Productions rondo has been in the league since 2005, he has 3 years more than rose. and rando is on a bandwagon team. peirce garnett and allen. they build a team around rose cause he is THE SUPERSTAR MVP of the bulls franchise. youre fucking retarded. no wonder noone likes your comments cause theyre irrelevant like your opinions on a bandwagon pointguard. celtics fucking suck bitch

  • rose is the beast

  • follow me on twitter @crumpjarron...youtube type in Jarron Crump Hardwork and Faith in God..

  • this matchup is kinda a tie but if i had to sat its defenitly rose

  • rose is better

  • Who cares. Chris paul is the best point guard in the NBA..he just doesn't have a team

  • @Koolakobs JORDAN DIDNT HAVE A TEAM, he made the team. chris paul is a free agent he can bandwagon like lebron now. maybe the knicks, i would love to see him and amare and melo haha. this would only mean the west is getting weaker and the east stronger

  • @Alegre671

    chris paul is a free agent ???

    since when

  • @afifmazlan his contract with the hornets ends this season. fair game for chris paul haha. high interest in new york

  • @Alegre671 huh??? jordan was great but of course he had a team...scottie pippen, paxton..rodman on the defensive end..comeon..and true on that last part

  • Rooonddoooooo !!!! ::OO thee besst !!!!

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  • Rose is a better player, but Rondo is a better point guard.

  • 0:23 "the end."

  • how hard is it to have 11 assists per game with the two of the best shooters in history and rose still has about 8 assists with the 14th ranked shooting% team in the league. now lets compare points ok rose=alot rondo=a little. now fg% rondo=475% rose=450%. And Rose doesnt have to be right under the basket to make it. And how can you say he sucks defensively when the bulls are the best defense shooting percentage wise and 2nd in points per game defensively.

  • did rondo ever get a mvp

  • rondo is a chump lol derick rose is clearly 100 times better then rondo lmfao how you going to compare d-rose to a chump DERICK ROSE BEST PG/PLAYER IN THE FUCKIN NBA I THINK SO WE THINK SO EVERYBODY THINK SO HAHA

  • @ohyeah335 Pause at 1:15, numbers dont lie son

  • @JohnnyFlyn i bet you 1 million bucks that HIS LAST SEASON STATS wont be the same as this season stats. cause obviously he is in the league a year longer. and how long has rondo been in this league? 2 years more than d-rose. and what? d-rose has obviously surpassed rondo since d-rose is getting the what?! oh thats right MVP trophy. bitch

  • @Alegre671 another triple double, lets see if Rose can lead his team to the conference finals to meet with rondo n da celtics, then we'lll see whos betta

  • @JohnnyFlyn Rose will make it to the conference finals. Rondo and the celtics wont make it pass the heat with no presence in the post without perkins.

  • rondo is a beast it didnt take him a year to lose and than play his hardest

  • All I can say is that if Rose fine tunes his shooting skills, he would be even deadlier than this season. Just imagine this guy running around like crazy and pulling up a jumper anytime he puts on his brakes... plus he can make shooting fakes better.. lol, just my opinion folks.. ^^

  • RONDO IS STILL BETTER THAN ROSE RONDO IS OK ROSE IS GUD BUT STILL WEAK AT THE SAME TIME RONDO IS BETTER OVERRALL IDC WAT U SAY RONDO IS KRAZY GUD IF U REALLY LOOK AT IT

  • Pause at 1:16 and you will know whos better.

  • @TheKentuckyCATz That was from 2 years ago. D.Rose stats is WAY better than Rondos now. Dont hate! Rondo has been sucking these last 4 or 5 games. Rose carried the Bulls to the best record in the NBA and the playoffs. Now whose better?

  • @realmelzbrown it was 1 year ago, ps he still turns it over, he still has to take 30 shots a game, and he still plays pathetic defense.

  • @TheKentuckyCATz This video is from 2009.. it was 2 years ago and are you saying no one in the nba turns the ball over? yeah ok and he plays pathetic defense but he blocks shots and keep people from driving and he is on his way to being the 2011 MVP .. yeah smh

  • if michael jordan said derrick rose should be mvp then derrick rose will be mvp

  • its funny that this was even a question in the past...D rose all day every day, not even close

  • Rose is mile ahead of Rondo. I remember his rookie year in that 7 game series against the celtics he was cooking Rondo all series long.

  • @AlphaDwg Last I checked, Rondo was .5 in rebounds away from avaeraging a triple double in that series. All he had to do was get 10 rebounds which he got 9.

  • Rondo this 2011 season= FAIL! Rose this 2011 season= Fuckin' beast! DRose MVP!

  • ROSE=BEST SCORING PG

    RONDO=BEST ALL-AROUND PG

    Rondo just does more on the defense end and passing end.

  • @TheKentuckyCATz yeah so i dont kno why ppl comparing their points per game. rondo does more assists while rose shoots

  • @TheKentuckyCATz you can prove that theory now, its

    ROSE=BEST OF THE BEST

    Rondo=better hope rose gets traded to the west if they want to win this conference

  • @Alegre671 are u dumb, the bulls wont even pass the magic. Especially when D.Howard locks down the paint, n Magic 3 point shooters let it fly. its ova for bulls after just barely surviving the pacers

  • @JohnnyFlyn just because johnny flin and the losing timberwolves didnt make the playoffs, that doesnt mean you can hate on the bulls because they are 3-0 against the pacers, i dont think you can call that barely passing. and orlando just tied the series 1-1 lets pray they make it so d-rose can shut your fucking mouth

  • @Alegre671 keep dreaming rondo has a ring

  • @Hd23Productions most amazing athletes dont have rings. but if you want to compare how A TEAM DOES rather than an INDIVIDUAL player then celtics are game, theyve been together how long and only have one ring, d-rose just got boozer, korver, brewer. which means you better be fucking scared for this season. ROSE would slaughter rondo one on one, and he has proved that this season. tell rondos doctor to be on stand by this playoff season when they meet up, if they can beat miami. FUCK YOU

  • @Hd23Productions

    its because of allen kg and pierce

    rondo just pass and get the credit

  • @afifmazlan AGREED

  • @Alegre671 Rose wouldn't be in the west.. LOL

  • For all of you rondo haters, look at the playoffs last year, rondo dominated rose by averaging a triple double and shut rose down. So go ahead and talk shit, just remember whos actaully better. Also rose can only score, thats it.

  • @TheKentuckyCATz that was last year, this year is a different story, rose has one more year in the league and look how much better he got. no d? oh no. 1 in the league in defense says otherwise. cant shoot 3's??

    averages 1.6 threes now. what more do you want to say that hasnt already been proven otherwise? dumbass

  • @Alegre671 Rose hasnt changed a bit since last year, he still doesnt play D, look at darren collison , a pg who is mainly pass first , he scored 20 on rose and he never scores. Also rose is like 2-8 on 3s in the playoffs right now (i may be off by 1 or 2) and he isnt anywhere close to being a good 3 point shooter. Also rose takes 4 to 5 threes a game , which is the only reason he averages 1.6 threes. Talk to me when he gets a ring or when he shows up in the playoffs vs a good team. Pacers blow