Botch - Saint Matthew Returns To The Womb

[Transfixion]

Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan both started Mathcore

[Vicfangio]

Why aren't there more Asians in Mathcore?

[jun10rocks]

@Vicfangio check out Melt-Banana



[MrRandalFlagg]

They were so ahead of their times.

[TOOLbottomfeeder7001]

yepp I'd recognize that gibson grabber from anywhere. these guys are sick!

[TOOLbottomfeeder7001]

is this the band with Brian Cook?

[justWidle]

@TOOLbottomfeeder7001 Brian Cook (These Arms Are Snakes) Tim Latona (Russian Circles), Dave Verellen (Narrows, Roy) and Dave Knudsen (Minus The Bear) = Botch. All others, are just imitators.

[TOOLbottomfeeder7001]

@justWidle When was Tim Latona in RC?

[justWidle]

@TOOLbottomfeeder7001 it's either him or Brian, I get both of them mixed up a lot.

[Sidcalledchickaen]

Does anybody knows a download link of music from Botch?

[imonlyyoureverything]

@Sidcalledchickaen music store.

[xlaserspeedx]

For fans of Botch

[xlaserspeedx]

Facebook search: seeya space bandit

[Aniihya]

I got here from drumcorps

[DogFactory001]

I miss B O T C H !!!!

[nashvegas20]

2:58 WTF

[beholdthecakola]

@nashvegas20 Two guys making out at a Botch show. It's a beautiful thing.

[nashvegas20]

@beholdthecakola St.Matthew returns to his boyfriend

[machine1203]

@nashvegas20 thats a girl falling on the stage.

[nashvegas20]

@machine1203 ohh. okay..still weird though hahaha.. don't care guys or what but just weird place to give a little TLC

[justWidle]

Fuck Norma Jean. They ripped off Botch.

[whothehelliskyle2]

@justWidle youre a fucking moron

[justWidle]

@whothehelliskyle2 Don't argue with me troll. You know it's true.

[whothehelliskyle2]

@justWidle no, no its not. two completely different bands, two different sounds

[CloggedLacrimalGland]

@whothehelliskyle2 Everyone knows Norma Jean ripped off Botch. GTFO

[VideoRoom207]

@CloggedLacrimalGland so only 1 band can do a certain sound? fuck off, there's a billion bands out there, no one is completely fucking original, get real, old ass argument

[CloggedLacrimalGland]

@VideoRoom207 Oh, you child, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[faelyur]

@CloggedLacrimalGland everybody rips off Johann Sebastian Bach so both of you fags STFU..

[eleventeen3]

@VideoRoom207 that's not the logic at all, it's just that norma jean straight up STEALS parts from botch. i still like norma jean's first two albums regardless of the obvious thievery, just cause i heard them first and like the production lol.

[FreshNapp]

OH HEY I LOVE NORMA JEAN

[mikeywarrior]

mathcore bands don't split up. they divide.

[Mariooo57]

@mikeywarrior i can't believe i've never heard this joke before. well done sir

[ruiner1]

@biorobotmachine PUNCH ME IN THE FACE MAN I'LL FUCKIN FUCK YOU UP MOTHER FUCKER

[ryanderekdalos]

@ruiner1 hahaha, wow..... i bet you have tribal tattood on your arm and have a closet full of tapout shirts

[kowtpr187]

@ruiner1 I think he does have tribal tattoos and has tap out gear...

[ruiner1]

@ruiner1 tapout 4eva. what of it

[MrDickyBingo]

fuck me these were good.

[seanwithoutYou]

sounds like what fear before the march of flames used to do. never heard Botch till today, just of, it's not bad

[StickyInADarkBlueCut]

what was that botch song that was a cover of a classical song? anybody

[cameroooon89]

@StickyInADarkBlueCut O Fortuna?

[belcurve]

Musically, this is one of the smartest bands I've ever heard.

[Stoufferthecat]

I miss these guys

[helmuth8806]

I love the shimmy on the stage....So epic

[botchzilla]

I hear Botch in so many other bands.

[erosevaporator]

Thanks for uploading this!

[klothomat]

@ignominal: the singer of botch was dave verellen, who is now fronting the narrows- I always liked his voice. seen botch live and the narrows, he ruled every time. awesome singer and performer.

[oplopanux]

such an underrated band

[Karnage515]

lol quality, what'd this take, five seconds to upload? good song tho

[asshatt1]

did anybody ever notice that botch fans dont really mind listening to minus the bear but it never goes the other way?

[mrfudgeyhead]

@asshatt1

I like Minus the Bear and liked them before finding Botch, who I also like.

That sentence made me sound retarded, but yeah, I dig on both.

Most MtB fans don't though, but they only dug the singles of MtB anyway.

[godsizedhole]

@asshatt1 Um, no. Fuck MtB

[RomeIsTheProblem]

The Romans are the Faggots.

[FashionWeekBand]

That band, song and video fking rule my world. I have to go to band practice now...

[coldpizza654321]

@X13XCORE YeS! thanks bro.

[coldpizza654321]

@X13XCORE can i get it anyway?

[coldpizza654321]

@X13XCORE lol i like them...can i get that album from you?

[mondoraptor]

i recognized ,their performance ,from krazyfest in Louisville ,KY ,i was there awsum fuckin show...at the time dillinger escape plan didn't have a vocalist so the dude from coalesce ,Josh Grahm did the show ,, and it fuckin rock out

[angrygoldfish]

I love how the guitarist for Botch is now the guitarist for Minus the Bear.

And it's funny: I saved this video in my favourits about two years ago. I heard the first minute of it and thought, I'll try and get into it later.

I just so happened to listen to this again for some reason, and now I love it.

[inaudibletype]

I am somewhere in this video at least 4 times

[4444HD]

just ordered this album. Cant wait to hear it!

[Shattered239]

they were never considered mathcore when they were around so stfu

[rustyw5]

@Shattered239 Well no crap, they were one of the first bands to have a mathcore sound.

[thychaos]

@Shattered239 no shit, dumbass. a band doesnt come out with a new sound and name it themselves, the style gets named after its own genre is established.

[xael821]

LOL wikipedia puts them in the genre "mathcore"

[musicking564]

@xael821 thats because they are considered to be mathcore.... One of the founding bands of the genre if you ask me. But genre labeling doesnt mean jack really.

[jokez112]

lol it's funny to listen to this song and then listen to minus the bear's 'my time'

[katie3849]

@biorobotmachine cats usually work.

[righteousrafael]

Rub this all over your face

[mikeoconn]

love dave knudson

[drewumberger]

2:58 hardcore make out!

[metalscan55]

@drewumberger SHEXSHY!!! hahahah

[mightydojo]

The greatest band i never saw.

[GregBradyisMyHero]

@xBRYANISTERRIFIEDx

Wrong, old Norma Jean sounds like Botch.

[Stoufferthecat]

I miss these guys. This is as good as it gets.

[murderer09]

Remember the first time you heard Botch? I got uncontrollable goose bumps and I knew nothing would be the same again.

[WhenTheyInvade]

@murderer09 exacccctly the same for me

[octobermidnight]

Fuck everyone with their 'core's, just love the music and be happy we all like music that's better than 99% of the rest of the shit out there. I'm starting a new genre right here, right now. Dental-core. Spread the word.

[venusfly9108]

@octobermidnight You'd better have taken some music lessons, dammit, or you'll kill it. Don't kill it please if you like music.

[XkidXuglyX]

@octobermidnight is it called dentalcore because listening bands that fall into all these new "core" sub-genres is almost as painful as pulling teeth?

[Stoufferthecat]

@octobermidnight To quote Botch themselves: The worst music I've ever heard, honesty that touches a nerve; The words fall onto the floor, drive home with no lessons learned; Soon the content outweighs the form with time the sound gets boring; For you and for me this posture is self serving.

[scootrboy]

This is HOW to play HC!!Technic,rage and creativity,all the rest SUCKS!

Love this band!

R.I.P.

[rexnickles2]

@biorobotmachine Got a mirror?

[Macarga]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaahghhhhhhh­hhhh!!!!! YES!!!!!!

[mauris800]

ion dissonance is to mathcore.

[skimmilk69]

FUCK GENRES

[GarysFault]

wtf is mathcore?

[JamesxGenocide]

@GarysFault its metalcore or deathcore or hardcore or whatever, with very complex arrangments, time signatures and other elements. The typical timing to play music in is 4/4, or 2/4. Mathcore bands play in like 12/11, 6/8, and other complicted timings.

[Debtfromabove]

@JamesxGenocide lol @ 12/11

lern2music

[duggie170]

@JamesxGenocide 6/8 complicated eh? this song is in 4/4. it's called syncopation. quit fucking talking.

[tylerc208]

@JamesxGenocide Why would you even bother making shit like that up? An 11th note beat?

[justdrop]

Listen to Behold! .. The Arctopus if you want mathcore.

[BrimstoneLandscapes]

@justdrop Behold the Arctopus isn't mathcore, it's just uber technical metal. No -core to be found.

[inaudibletype]

I was at two of the shows on this video

[poopsmash18]

dude i cant believe the guitarist and drummer are also in minus the bear! insane how they totally changed their style, its pretty awesome haha

[xabsolutefuturex]

@poopsmash18 Tim Latona the drummer of Botch hasnt made any music since the band broke up. Erin Tate is the drummer of MTB, always has been.

[Billthelemur]

What time signature is this song in?

[PlzHelpwithname]

protest the hero is better

[blotchy67]

@PlzHelpwithname No they aren't. Keizia is a sick record, but botch is the shit. also..this isn't matchcore, it's metalcore. Protest the hero and DEP are more mathcore.

[Metllerr]

Everything you want from a hardcore song; this and Converge's 'Eagles Become Vultures' is all you need to define mathcore for someone.

[bringthegjaw]

BOTCH is fuckin sick. I wish i could have seen them live...

[Clickthisprofile]

@biorobotmachine WELL BRING IT ON ASSHOLE ONLY THING IS IT WILL BE MY FIST IN YOUR FACE

[OHmygodXoBil3]

Don't get why botch fans hate minus the bear, sure they aren't metal but they still have all the math influences with their music that botch had when they were around.

[Killerb567]

This is when Hardcore was good and not that wanna be gangster shit

[DJQuips]

@Killerb567 Nothing about this is really Hardcore man. Real hardcore is punk...with alot of two step and the occasional breakdown. Emphasis on simplicity. This is way to complex to be considered hardcore. I'm sure hardcore kids went to Botch shows and identified with Botch..but Botch is much more than that.

[Killerb567]

@DJQuips Hardcore punk is it;s own genre, the meaning of the word hardocre has changed over time it doesn't just apply to punk. this is like an evolved hardcore, this is to simplistic to be mathcore or w/e people wanna call it. This is late 90s early 2000 hardcore before it deevolved to shitty tough guy hardcore

[Hoop99]

The guitaring at 2:42 - 2:52 has a mythical feel and look to it. Perfect for this time when it deserves it. Long live botch! Wish i could have seem them live.

[BloodOverBullets]

We'll Sacrifice Lady Gaga! BRING BOTCH BACK!

[Crand0]

im only 15 so i havnt been around long enough to apreciate these gods live...i so wish i had tho!!!

[Seabearr]

@biorobotmachine  LOL'D.

[Stirrethcharybdis]

I like the noisiness, and the elements of dissonance

[xpiecemealx]

At 2:38 everyone was totally into it!

[Misterdooglass]

What exactly is going on there between those two dudes at 3:00?

[tryTroyCkYToy]

@Misterdooglass: gosh you got good eyes .. never woulda seen that. guess you can find love even at the breakdown-moshpit of a hardcore gig

[JxLamdin090]

I love math, so I thought it only makes sense for me to give this a try. Tryed it, too heavy for me :) heading quietly back to Giraffes? Giraffes! and Dave Knudson in Minus the Bear.

[1thesandmancan1]

3:00=boner

[equalsconquest]

fuck yes~!

[ant1ph0n]

i'm so glad of knudson's musical background before minus the bear. yay me. love the bite of his riffs.

[klothomat]

they were so fucking great. i am glad that there are at lest the narrows now. this voice should not be not heard.

[Ignominal]

@klothomat

So are you saying you like this band but not its original singer? Or are you trying and failing to make a coherent point out of three totally unrelated statements?

[14Jibbs14]

wtf is mathcore?

[Leviathanz0r]

a very technical music genre...not everybody likes it and i understand them ^^

[themartinmanisdead]

This is mathcore, So are bands like converge and dillinger escape plan. :)

[beersoffire]

@14Jibbs14 mathcore is this stupid word invented by people to classify music cause they need labels to understand the world around them instead of just rocking out. to life. and botch.

[dontpokesmot422]

@beersoffire werd to that. i agree 100%. but without labels how the fuck am i supposed to describe these bands. besides amazing and orgasmic? oh and brutal as fuck.

[dontpokesmot422]

@14Jibbs14 mathcore is amazing

[TheBlackLagooner]

"We are botch, from Tacoma, Washington"

[Clickthisprofile]

...Are they beatable?

[eoinpahern]

@Clickthisprofile ya the band were called mare!

[edisacuntface]

fear before a waaaaaaayyy better

[beersoffire]

fear before used to be a pop punk band called 36 flip.

[edisacuntface]

haha lol i was joking

[THECAKEUATE]

damn this is wicked

[TonyV138]

one of my favorite mathcore bands<3 :)

[PoppyOpera]

@suckafatball

They are very much makin' out. :)

[daedley]

Dave Knudson is god

[ihatecarebears1]

dave

[JaundiceJaun]

I was never really into hardcore bands, or anything related to them - always a metal kind of guy, but bands like Botch, Cave In, and Converge just stand out above all of the mediocrity, and this song proves it, these guys OWN.

[zadig08]

you oviously know nothing of music.

[geefunkera3000]

was watching their live last show dvd last night and was amazed at the sheer quantity of tops quality songs, true pioneers

[midgetHigh5s]

i listen to this song everyday. btw, what's with those 2 guys makin' out @ 3:01? lmao

[hereticjoeyjoey]

anyone got there cover of old fortuna

[pat000005]

hells yeah so heavy!!!!

[intothepit83]

and just so u guys know.... wikipedia isnt always right

[MyFirstAddiction]

hey you're a sputniker!

[intothepit83]

hahahahah, yes i am!

[storture]

yeah you're officially retarded, intothepit83

[intothepit83]

yeah, i guess i am, considering i never said ANYTHING about when they formed. and so you know, if you heard converge's earliest stuff, you would know that they sound nothing like they did back then, it was straight up hardcore.... so who fails now?

[intothepit83]

lol, i never said they sound the same, and why are you getting so angry? i never came out at you, i came out at the guy who called me retarted! lol, both are musical geniuses... i love botch, and i love converge! equal love for both, jesus!

[EmphasizeThis]

lol don't worry man, I'm not upset at all. I just love talking about both bands. I just think crediting a single band to "mathcore", which I think is a shitty name imo, is a bit of a stretch.

[intothepit83]

lol i dont credit either band to "mathcore," if u really wanna credit a band to "math metal" that inspired all of them, look to meshuggah(i know, they sound way different, yet all the odd time signatures have to have been inspiration for bands like botch, converge, and dillinger), but otherwise, it's a "genre" that keeps redifining itself anyways

[intothepit83]

rorschach is great, one of the best as well a voivod... never got into die kreuzen though....

[beersoffire]

bla bla bla mathcorebla bla bla hardcore bla bla bla dillinger converge bla bla bla genre of music bla bla metal bla grindcore bla bla odd time signatures bla bla

[intothepit83]

ummmmmm.....wut?

[XxNastyXNatexX]

hahahaha

[mikeplaysguitar22]

@beersoffire : hahaha. true.

[intothepit83]

oh, and converge states that botch was a major influence on them.... fucking know your history before you open your mouth.

[EmphasizeThis]

please provide a link stating they were influenced by Botch. I'm very curious.

[intothepit83]

it was actually in decible magazine awhile ago, when they had just started recording axe to fall... gimme a while, i'll have to look

[Darpinion]

Botch fucking actually ROCKS! I'm waiting to see some lame compare them to Disturbed though.

[intothepit83]

if it werent for this band, there would be no dillinger escape plan, there would be no converge, there would be no mathcore.... please respect musical genious

[EmphasizeThis]

@ intothepit83

Converge formed in 1990. Botch in 93.

[yusifer]

Fuckin sickest band, these guys absolutely pissed on most 'heavy' bands of today. Un-fucking-touchable.

[intothepit83]

and wow, wuts new??? people arguing online, picking fights.... wow guys, u must be real tough, u just called someone a tomatocock, and then u called him a dumb piece of shit... real tough guys, arent u? grow the fuck up...

[intothepit83]

mmmmm tomatocock.... is that a fruit or a vegetable?

[twistswitch]

Raging, Nihilistic.....Love at 3:00

[aranahan]

lol are those dudes making out at 3:00

[thisisafullsentence]

LOL