Mac Pro AWESOME INSTALLATION VIDEO-PCI, RAM and HD

[styx0rz]

@giantrobot503

Too bad you can run OSX on many custom builds. Or just chose one of the millions of Linux distros that meet your needs.

[GangstaFlenn]

color correction is made like an old porno movie :)

[livingshangrila]

Easy as pie.

[Tyler7975]

if you have an old mac pro, can you send it in for upgrades to apple ? or is it an under the desk thing.

[aesthe2k]

Could you Give me some external port 3 Gb/S PCI SATA card name for mac pro but which is not expensive but with good speed? my bugget is around 30$ to 60$... thanks

[Orf]

@aesthe2k did you find one?

[aesthe2k]

what is the the name of PCI SATA card that you installed??

[IflyinGa]

So much easier in my computer to do this.

[ShaneHm2]

Its actually PCI-e interface.

[steavedaver]

it would suck if you got any swolen capastiors in a mac pro

[visornet24]

i'd like to know so much, what mainboard is inside. that must be a giant powerfull board, with giant dimensions.

[dell11700]

@visornet24 it has a freakin small motherboard that has only the processors...

[chrismans]

totally agree

[edguitartorres]

Question: I have a 640 GB Internal hard drive in my Mac Pro 8 core. If i want to put an additional hard drive in does it also have to be a 640 GB to match or can I put in a different capacity, ie: a 1TB?

[dan1eln1el5en]

nope, i got 4 different drives by various manufactures.

[edguitartorres]

Thank You! G-d Bless!

[jjjv73]

@edguitartorres You can put in any size , doesnt have to be the same

[barrybob32]

sure its easy to upgrade but all the parts are made by apple, no wait theyre sold by apple, the same way that all macs are made of sony batteries, disk drives and hard drives. the screen is made by sharp, hell all apple does is design the computer's shell. for a while the mac used quantum drives. kinda funny that apple products arent actually designed by the same people who make the software. and mac is good for ...

1.porn

2.uhh

3.uhmmm

4.

[dan1eln1el5en]

it's just regular harddrives, RAM you buy from crucial and PCI card is also just regular PC parts, I don't have anything directly from Apple except from the computer itself, RAM, from Crucial and Kingston, Harddrives from whoever, Graphics upgrade from ATI.

[GeneticRealityFilms]

...each kind of computer has its perks There is no "Better" computer Macs, do one thing, Windows and linux do another

[xboxnissan]

What's the fkin mather with windows. DONT TELL ME VIRUSES. Ten fkin years since my dad bought his PC. He NEVER had viruses. I bought my PC.... guess what... NEVER HAD VIRUSES. Try telling me what is SOO better you Apple fanboy.

[xboxnissan]

Okay one more time:

1-Antec 1200 air circulation Pwns completly Mac Pro's air circulation.

2-My computer: Cost less than Mac Pro, is double the speed and I'm up to say 4 times since i7 (Intel) pwns your Mac Pro's Core 2 Duo..

3-Memory Quality of my computer pwns your stock Mac Pro's. OCZ 12800 DDR3 Memory is hugelly faster than your stock Mac Pro's DDR3.

4-In conclusion, wtf are you doing posting comments that a guy sent 4 months ago? Seriously explain me how it is important to argument?

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[xboxnissan]

explain me what means "lesser" first?

[xboxnissan]

lesser word exist? And how it is "lesser" whatever if the word exist..

[xboxnissan]

Sure play games.. like what? Can you play recent games? can you play COD6 on a Mac? Can you play Crysis on a Mac? yeah sure with the DOS thing. Stupid Apple Fanboy. My sister has an iMac and a MacBook Pro, and if I would only work and do multimedia stuff, apple would be there for me. But let's say Mac aren't build for gaming. So even that, Mac pro cost twice the price of my actual Antec 1200 computer.. so what's the point? I have i7 which pwns any CPU on the market even your Apple CPU's....

[xboxnissan]

you don't have Antec 1200 case to figure "OMG it's better Mac" So stfu. And what mac does better? nothing. PC can play games... mac don't. I bought a PC because I can play games AND doing Microsoft Office work. Yes, Antec 1200 has better air circulation in the case, you CAN'T say the oposite, that mac has 1 fan.. when antec 1200 got 5 120mm fans and one 200 mm fan on the top, and one optional 120mm on side.

[JackTr1pper]

@xboxnissan Wow you sure are a pc FANBOY (get it? Fan boy) hahahahah!!

[xboxnissan]

haha so unfunny. -__-

[xboxnissan]

yeah sure you cant speak without seeing a PC..

[xboxnissan]

wow you are late!!! damm 7 months ago since I posted that comment -__- and whatever theres 1 damm fan. In my 1200 case (Antec 1200) I have 7 fans (6+additionnal fan), plus the CPU Cooler (Cooler Master V8). So even with that one fan, the air circulation seems really bad in that Mac

[bluepantherofdeath]

how much ram does this thing support???

[PowerPlanetTheGame]

32gb.

[medeamajic]

The PC is easier to instal RAM if you have a genreic ATX case because there is no riser card to remove first. I also don't dig the hard drive sleds for the hard drives but to each his own.

[medeamajic]

Aren't those PCI Express slots?

[xboxnissan]

But the main problem is: where is the CPU cooler in this?

[xboxnissan]

Omg I can't imagine how the airflow in this computer is bad!!

[DigiRarefaction]

Wrong, the air flow in this computer is fantastic. I have the mac pro and always monitor the temps of all all interior components and its always cool. The engineers that built this desktop obviously knew what they were doing.

[xboxnissan]

where is the CPU cooler in that??

[tipoomaster]

If anyone reading this plans on buying a Mac Pro soon, wait. The new nehalem architecture based Xeons are coming out soon, and if the desktop Core i7 (also nehalem based) are any indication, the new mac pro will blow this one out of the water.

[qcziu]

I always have doubts about the cooling of the 4 hard drives in a the Mac Pro. In my PC I have 4 at the front with two 120mm fans running, hard drives have lots of space on top and underneath, on the Mac Pro every drive is cased in, the first drive's heat floats of the second drive an do so on, the 4the drive must be really getting hot this way! Especially, knowing how modern drives already get pretty hot to begin with.

[JereHakala]

My 2 Samsung F1's are only 20-30 celsius all the time, so if you put those there, there shouldn't be no problem.

[JULIAN88S]

muy lindo

[twgoldwood]

lol guy cocker thats the guy at gamespot

[CompHelperKid]

lol yeh i know

[BigBoss36]

I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

i liked this video :) jF

[DesignerDigital]

Wou ...that fast to install????? .. wou

[JULIAN88S]

PARECE UN NEVECON XD PERO MUY TESO

[ctrob71]

can the aluminum imac be video card upgraded

[rigell04]

ok, did they seriously have to use a gigantic blue light for the lighting in this vid? my eyes hurt now

[thien0995]

No, it's because macs' are so awesome they emit a glowing blue light... jk lol

[jkristheking]

i hate mac -.-

way too expensive + macs are for retarted people who know nothing about computers.

BE LINUX

[PremiumSoul]

Hush young one!! go cry somewhere else if you feel overwhelmed. what a pansy!

[jkristheking]

screw you have fun with your 3000$ mac when i can build a better machine for a fraction of the price dumb ass

[169ViceCity169]

get a GAMING RIG ! not this wannabe white lego thing

[bb1televator]

Just like legos!

[shredtheibanez]

The mac pro.. Hmm, im happy with my g5 powerpc.. :)

[pacifico555]

This is a very nice 'how to'.

[Deokishisu]

The Mac Pro can power a small house.

[Meteotrance]

it's THE computer all of the option are fucking powerfull using with maya lightwave or another 3d package is just knoking out.

[walagers]

lovin the 80's nightclub lighting! MAC PRO FTW

[shredtheibanez]

haha

[timekeeper123]

WTB macpro.

[eddyMx]

yep

easy as pie

[weaanr]

Might be an odd question, but the screwes, do you get them with the mac pro or?..

[desantiscm]

Yea, They do.

[BeaverWalrus]

lol at apples FB(fully buffered or fat bastard) ram.

[grannyBangproduction]

who needs this stuff ur not gona do any gameing

[lovelyistheworld]

the music was really groovy though.

[WillThePlank]

why did you need an esata card... i thought the mac pro had an open sata port for an esata pci face plate on the logic board?

[nevershake]

He said they were PCI slots, but aren't they PCI-express slots? Is there a version that has regular PCI slots?

[torsteinator]

pci-express is for graphics cards, you can see it all the way down, and the others are ordinary pci's

[druckerfkcer]

whats that pci exppress card u installed and what do does it do

[rizz3]

kinda a dumb question, but do u have to buy ram, PCI, SATA & other computer parts specifically made for the mac, or can you buy any one and install it?

[dvestore]

For the most part, yes. You'll want to check the specs to make sure it is Mac compatible.

[weinerschnitzelboy]

@rizz3 No not really. Almost everything you have is compatible for mac. The only thing I can think of hardware wise that you have to buy specifically for mac is a graphics card or anything else that plugs in through a pci port. Other than tat, everything hardware should be compatible to a mac.

[styx0rz]

@weinerschnitzelboy Are you kidding? anything that plugs in through a pci port? That's more than 95% of the hardware in question. Of course RAM and CPUs are going to be supported - apple does not need to write drivers for them!

If it's 3rd party hardware (a controller card, a sound card, a video card, a capture card, etc) you need to be sure apple has written drivers (and they probably have not). Electrically, the card will work, but OSX won't know what to do with it.

[styx0rz]

@weinerschnitzelboy Are you kidding? anything that plugs in through a pci port? That's more than 95% of the hardware in question. Of course RAM and CPUs are going to be supported - apple does not need to write drivers for them!

If it's 3rd party hardware (a controller card, a sound card, a video card, a capture card, etc) you need to be sure apple has written drivers (and they probably have not). Electrically, the card will work, but OSX won't know what to do with it.

[styx0rz]

@styx0rz

Apple "Just works" because they severely limit the hardware mixes you can run on their machines. If you have fewer combinations of hardware to test and support, it's easier to make sure they work well.

You are buying this "reliability" (read: heavily tested hardware+software configuration) from Apple for a premium - if you want to do something beyond the designed intent of the machine, build a custom machine running another OS and don't waste your money.

[robimess]

awesome

[agdgdgwngo]

could you install vista on a mac pro for games

[irkost]

yes, via boot camp

[agdgdgwngo]

awesome would it be fast and can u put pci e cards in

[agdgdgwngo]

could you install vista on a mac pro for games

[1987xenovarocker]

Static mat?! lol doesn't he mean an anti static mat? I don't care what anyone says, you should always wear a god damn ESD wrist strap!!!

From a technical viewpoint i do not like the idea of modular riser ram board, and what i really don't like is the sata hard disks slot on to the logic board. Drives produce so much heat! And another grumble is that IF you get the hard drive misaligned in the slot god knows what damage you could do to the interfaces on the drive and logic board.

[Japaneren]

The drives don't connect directly to the motherboard.

The riser cards are pretty much a requirement. Otherwise, either there would be more fan noise or there would be less RAM slots.

[ufano2006]

You shouldn´t need any anti-static wrist strap?

[rgsgww]

well i never use one...i should though....as you know when ever you touch somebody can you get that little shock? that can be as much as 30,000v but very very low current...as little as 700v can degrade computer components...so anyone who works on computers alot should buy a wrist strap...but i would recommend touching the case always before working

[AppleMacs101]

can i wack any of the correct size hard drives it these?

[EchoAudio]

You can put any size hard drive you want in there. What's good is that now you can have 4 hard drives in there, each with a different operating system on them if you wish, and use Apples Boot Camp to boot into different OS's!

[aquaaura56]

i like the idea but change out the mobo seems like a total terror just like any other computer.

[Athiskemon]

it's amazing how Apple makes technology easy to use and simple.

[JediMaster6788]

That's Apple for ya

[xxtrustxx]

This computer is the ferrari of Computers! Mac Pro is the best mac ever made!

[beanbag1985]

funny thing you mention ferrari, as you know, they wave terrible mpg (batterylife here). and they are way overpriced! guess ur right. but they are pretty cool

[FryChicken]

Yep, yet people still worship ferrari. What's interesting though is that apple also builds the VW Beetle (old one, mind you) of computers, the iMac.

[casanoval33t]

now i see that there are mac fans =\ everything is already chewed for you and you only have to swallow it. no fun at al. and how are you planning to casemod that? no space and no airflow. mac should it leave pc's alone and continue making ipods.

[Crossaxel412]

you guys always have to find SOMETHING to complain about

[Jabc23]

Wow..that looks Realllyyyyy easy to upgrade. man..

[beanbag1985]

wow 2500 for 250gb hd, 2.4ghz, 1gb ram,and 7300gt, graphics and then to upgrade wow holy fuck

[aquaaura56]

i agree way overpriced but they have their purpose's.

[beanbag1985]

i guess....

[espejel92]

dude its more clomplex than a pc, mac sucks

mac just looks better

[creativeatheart]

at least there's

no

fidly screws to get inside and no messy cables restricting air flow and cooling. Life's easier inside a mac

[mercenary64]

why the weird blur and 80's music?

[macias9133]

the Mac Pro can go up to 16 GB of RAM, 3 TB of hard drive space, 2 3GHz processors, and a Crazy Graphics card...i don't know the name of it......................

But for a fully loaded one,,,,it cost about $14,000.

[yarduh]

its some nvidia chip....

[creativeatheart]

can go up to 32 GB - 8 X 4GB, but apple dont sell the 4GB yet so they wont advertise that the mac pro can

[wyldestjoker]

You Should NEVER buy extra RAM from Apple...go to a online store.

[phoneunlisted]

you installed the ram incorrectly. ram goes in in this order: A1 A2, B1 B2, A3 A4, B3 B4. you have ram in A1 A2 B3 B4 and A3 A4. lol. you're a moron.

[DaiLafing]

can i put a Radeon HD 2900 inside a new mac pro? i want a hdmi output on my mac pro, but dont want to spend out unless im sure... or if u guys can advide me on another method to the same means, thanks

please advise

[XMattingly]

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use one of those -- they're standard PCI slots now. But to be sure, I'd contact Apple's tech support line (1-800-MY-APPLE); they could tell you for sure.

[DaiLafing]

PCI-E

Not standered PCI

I think i'll have to ring them... or possably get a good return policy on the card...

thanks

[RiceMan1992]

Look at how the fan is right next to the ram. Such a perfect design.

[Carsons12]

I wonder when this "Quad Core" thing would be come really useful with Video or Music Applications.

Cause the application itself needs to compatible with the Quad core.

[Ehal256]

not compatible, but it needs to be able to create enough threads to use multiple cores.

[Philometalist]

Currently the Mac Pro's Max RAM configuration is 32GB when utilizing 4GB modules

[sanchezan]

You forget that the RAM is limited by the Operating System. Actually the max addressable memory on a 32bit OS, whether that be MACOS or WINDOWS, is 4 gigabytes. That will include your video memory and whatever bios takes up. That means with your 4gig modules, and say a 512mb Video card, you will only 'see' ~3.5gigs of RAM on your system. Though this changes when you use a 64bit OS as you can get up to 128gigs of RAM (don't quote me on this one).

[phoneunlisted]

the mac os is a 64 bit operating system... you're incorrect.

[sanchezan]

How am i incorrect you dumb fuck. Where did i state that MacOs is strictly not a 64 bit operating system. Oh wait MacOS comes BOTH in 32bit and 64bit versions. Idiot.

[phoneunlisted]

also why the fuck would they sell a machine which can support up to 16 gigs of ram if the operating system could only see 3.5 of it. fucking kill yourself for the good of humanity, i don't want you breathing my air.

[sanchezan]

Why? Think about it wise guy. Say most standard Intel chipset motherboards supports 16gigs of ram max. But wait you don't need so much because you are a freeking home user and you have a 32bit operating system. Dumbass. And why did they release Ram that operates @ over 1333+mhz but the motherboards don't support it yet ? Why does a an OS support DX10 but you are only using DX9 ? Why does a video card come with a sli port but you are only using one card ? Shoot yourself.

[skoundrel87]

two dual core intels. quad core! windows sucks

[sanchezan]

Your said relation between Dual core Intels and Windows sucking does not correspond.

[skoundrel87]

but the mac pro doesnt only have one dual core intel.. its got TWO of them.

the new macpro's have two quad core. 8cpu's essentially

[sanchezan]

Sure for any PC, you can purchase a Quad Core CPU (say Q6600) for <250$. Install it on your Motherboard (775 pin). There is currently a Dual Quad Core (8 cores) 'PC' made. Also uses FBDIMM memory, but a much more powerful GPU. Essentially all this and the MacPro are for a server configuration. Since even now a Dual Core can outperform a Quad Core, since the multithreading is not fully developed in most software, and it's not like your going to need to fully load 8 processes at the same time.

[sanchezan]

Also the MacPro uses Xeon processors, (used for servers), and the 16gigs RAM is essentially useless for a user. Not to mention the max GPU that Apple offer is a 7300GT or 1900XT. Sure you can add two of them even four, but that just increases your memory bandwidth etc. But the fillrate/ for textures won't increase. Thus unless your running 4 40" displays, a single 8800Ultra would easily outperform those cards, not to mention that nearly every motherboard supports SLI now.

[Ehal256]

actually, the mac pro doesnt support sli or crossfire, and even if it did, SLI/Corssfire doesnt increase memory bandwidth, and it doesn't combine memory buffer sizes. When you're running in SLI mode, the slave card has to have all the same information in its memory buffer as the mster card, effectively halving the two cards memory. 2 8800 GTX's in sli will only result in 768MB total vRAM

[sanchezan]

I thought Mac Pro does support sli and crossfire, thus them selling their GPUs with the option of two or more cards on the one system. Sure sli doesn't increase the memory bandwidth i was mistaken but it splits the work done in between the cards, so one does part of the processing and the other does the other, in turn cutting the processing cost down.

[Ehal256]

no the mac pro doesnt support sli or crossfire, it uses a server motherboard and for corssfire/sli you actually need an SLI/Crossfire northbridge which a server motherboard will defeinitely not have. It always possible to have more than one graphics card installed with enough slots on ANY computer, but that doesnt mean it is SLI or Crossfire.

[sanchezan]

So once again the mac has failed, as the multiple video card support does not increase performance, but rather to support "multiple displays". Shame

[Ehal256]

well, i read something about a "chipset-independent" sli nForce driver, so SLI works when you boot into windows on a mac, but not OS X

[Tenzinpelha]

how many gigs of memory modules can the mac pro support? and how many tera bytes of the harddrive can the mac pro support?

[dvestore]

8x2GB = 16GB RAM and 4 drive bays at 750GB so 3TB all internal

[Tenzinpelha]

thats for the response. well if you had the mac pro upgraded to the max, what kind of cpu would it need atleast? i'm guessing intel core 2 extreme.

[Crossaxel412]

the mac pro comes with intel xeon, standard!

[macnation]

LOL, i love how you can get 8 displays on the mac pro.

[bakari45]

Very thorough introduction.

[juju475]

i have an imac 24 inch nvidia graphics it own running vista and mac os

[snper545]

To bad mac can't compete with microsoft. ;)

[noxxrun]

but they are ;)

gaining loads of the market share every hour :]

either way, bother have thier goods and their bads.

[0Lateralus0]

Thanks to the iPod.

[noxxrun]

nahh, macbook sale outnumber half the industys pc laptop sales.

but honestly.

i know about 14 people with macbook/macbook pros.

and the only reason they /really/ went out to buy it, was because it ran OS X, windows, linux, and whatever else you cn possibly think of =].

besides, its not about how much of something someone sales, its about the quality of the product their selling.

therfor, apple cant compete with microsoft in the computer industry, but hp, dell, toshiba etc.

[sonico73]

MACS is for sophisticate people. Like me.... : )

[wolverineredwingfan]

wow why would you even want to spend the money to upgrade it? i thought macs were perfect allready.

[noxxrun]

"average" people wouldnt be upgading like that, its probably for some big business, university, or scientific study.... Or for games xD.

[noxxrun]

...games xD. ffor sure. i wish i could afford ram like that for my macbook. that'd be awesome.

[windowsvista5472]

mac just copied a pc!!!cause on a mac u can't upgrade anything

[cssniper06]

You can upgrade a Mac. Its been a myth by people that Macs cant be upgraded, but as of these past years Macs have been upgradedable. The Mac Pro, Mac Book Pro, Macbook, iMac, Mac Mini ,etc. are all upgradeble, all one needs is the basic tools like a screwdriver, putty knife, flat credit card and a bit of know-how and anything can be replaced. I read a reviw were some guys upgraded the Processors on the Mac Pro from Xeon Quad to Xeon Octo!

[KentiumInside]

Yeah, I was able to upgrade the RAM in my Macintosh Performa 650 and that was at least 15 years ago. PCs didn't exactly have a huge selection of video cards or anything like that then either since there was no need

[SpecialKLSX]

Yea but that was 15 years ago when mac was actually better than a PC due to the fact they were to market faster.

[SpecialKLSX]

Right right, and when the processor gets too slow? Or they switch socket designs then what? Oh right you huck it out the window. Well maybe not anymore, since Mac finally gave up and bent over to accept intel processors up their rainbow colored asses.

[cssniper06]

Yes since, IBM wasnt able to make a processor that was able to be faster and use less power, so they had to turn to Intel. I was hoping for a G6 :(

[noxxrun]

you can upgrade macs... I dont know where you heard that from o.O

[Lodestone1968]

Great video, but it would take longer than 5 minutes for this install, not much longer. The case appears to be well designed and easy to work with. I am looking very hard at switching over, the Mac pro would be my entry device if I do.

[ufopsi]

Very good.

[christm3]

gr8 vid