@sorryimsogreat2 That is a Risso's dolphin,they scar very easily ,in the wild you can tell wether or not it's an old dolphin by how many scars they have,adults often have accumulated so many that thier bodies are nearly pure white.
Of course,with captive specimens,they don't get as many scars,especially if kept alone,so this one may be older than it looks.
The scarring does appear to be true about many individuals. All the same this animal should not be enslaved in a cove where the less attractive of it's family were murdered.
@sorryimsogreat2 While I dissagree with you on cetacean captivity,and this whale is being kept in a bay closer to Taiji town,Hatajiri bay where the whales are taken is abit further from town.But I do agree,the style of capture,if not the act of capture itself is terrible and since sound travels very well in water,one must wonder if the animals kept in net pens at Taiji whale museum can hear the terrible calls during fishing season....A sad thought is'nt it?
Well on captivity all I have to say is the average life span in captivity is lower for all cetaceans, while other animals in captivity live longer then their wild cousins, I believe that says enough. Then there's the fact that a lot them before being shipped away are kept in training pens in the sea not far from the continuing killing.
@sorryimsogreat2 Actually,while there are long lived individuals,the average lifespans arent that different from the captive cetaceans of today,and they will only continue to get a longer average lifespan as long as we don't forget to continue learning.
Remember,we've only been keeping this group of animals for a very few decades,while we've had many more decades,even centuries to learn how to take care of many of the land and semi-aquatic species kept in zoos.
From what I've seen the average for bottlenose dolphins in the wild is around 25 with the maximum life expectancy only being seen in wild populations, while in captivity the average for bottle nose is around 19. For orcas the numbers are far far worse. The fact that we need to give these animals anti-depressants and ulcer medicines as a frequent treatment is simply startling. If you have to drug an animal this frequently and heavily, you should own it.
@sorryimsogreat2 All of these points are old facts,the average life expectancy for a bottlenose dolphin these days,when well cared for are the same as that of wild dolphins,also,dolphins are not given anti depressants,and are only given ulcer medicine when they have an ulcer.... but if you're just going to keep saying no and denying everything,then i dont see the point in this conversation.
Well that's with saying well cared for, which is the whole point of this subject. I'm not denying anything, and these numbers of current statistics taken. Well yes, they are given ulcer medicine both when they have them, and to prevent them. I always found it funny how on tv they'd call it "vitamins". The average life spans are simply longer in the wild from current knowledge of the species. They all deserve to be rehabilitated for the wild.
@sorryimsogreat2 They are given vitamins aswell,to suplement whatever nutrients might have been lost in the freezing process used to kill any possible "bugs" may be in the fish.
Most wild dolphins found stranded have worms,captives almost never do.
And no they don't all "deserve" to be put into the wild because they can't all survive,most releases of captive dolphins result in death...I'd rather have a live,well taken cared for dolphin than one following boats begging for food.
Stranded individuals usually become stranded for a reason, that being they're sick, so the fact that they would have worms doesn't particularly surprise me. Most releases result in death? Where does this statistic come from? Lets see some experts who disagree, Laidlaw , Marine mammal veterinarian Dr. Lanny Cornell, Aubin, Balcomb, he Straits Times.
I'm sure you'll respond to the Rick O'barry navy dolphin release, but I can hardly trust the navy with cetaceans, with them denying for years that sonar was killing them, and they had to be stopped by the courts, also the many things that have been suggested the navy has trained them to do.
I doubt your comment holds any real validity. I'll give a very brief list that shows release is very possible.
1993. Flipper, a male bottlenose dolphin released off Laguna, Brazil after approximately ten years of captivity. Since release, Flipper has been seen along at least 155 miles off the coastline, often in the company of other dolphins.
1992. Bahama Mama, an adult female bottlenose dolphin inadvertently released after at least seventeen years of captivity. No official follow-up occurred, however this dolphin was positively photo-identified up to eight months after release in the company of wild dolphins in the Bahamas.
1992. Matt, an adult male bottlenose dolphin was rehabilitated, freezebranded, and then released after thirty-seven days at Mote Marine Laboratory's facility. Within a matter of minutes, he was associating with a mother-calf pair in the area. At least twelve sightings of Matt were reported in the first nine months following release.
1992. Annessa, a captive-born Atlantic bottle-nose dolphin held at the Dolphin Research Center in the Florida Keys disappeared and was feared lost during a hurricane in August 1992. Annessa survived the hurricane, however, and was adopted by a pod of wild dolphins. She has been sighted numerous times - healthy and foraging on her own.
1991. Rocky (male), Missie (female) and Silver (male), three bottlenose dolphins released off Turks and Caicos Islands, after twenty, twenty-two, and fifteen years of captivity respectively. "In the acclimation seapen, they learned how to capture live fish". Released September 1991. All have been re-sighted numerous times since then. In several of the recent sightings, Silver was in the company of JoJo, a "friendly" dolphin that swims near Club Med at Providenciales, Turks and Caicos.
1990. Echo (male) and Misha (male), two adult bottlenose dolphins released intentionally after two years of research, with extensive follow-up. The dolphins had been captured in 1988 with the intention of studying aspects of their reintroduction following captivity. Released on 6th October 1990 off Bishop Harbor, Tampa Bay, Florida in the vicinity where they had been captured. These two dolphins have been re-sighted numerous times, and they appear to have successfully re-acclimated to the wild.
1987. Joe (male) and Rosie (female), two bottlenose dolphins released off Wassaw Island, Georgia, after seven years of captivity. "All reports of their activity in the wild indicate that they are in good health and have associations with resident pods."
1979. Two Pacific bottlenose dolphins (six year old male, eight year old female) permitted ocean access after four years of captivity at Sea Life Park in Hawaii. The dolphins gradually ventured further from their seapen, and eventually after four months of ocean access, they chose to remain at sea.
1972. Opo (female), a bottlenose dolphin returned to original capture site in Biscayne Bay, Florida after one year of captivity at Miami Seaquarium. No follow-up occurred, but the dolphin had readapted to diet of live fish and was allowed to swim away.
Look up "In Opposition to Dolphin Captivity" it's an interview article of Dr. Lori Marino and her thoughts on captivity, and it's very enlightening, considering she's one of if not arguably thee best cetacean scientist.
false hoods? It sounds like anything that suggest free animals you will dictate as inherently false. I've provided the facts that these animals can be released, and live far better lives, that is worth more then noneducational amusement.
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reitouniji163 6 months ago
poor enslaved animal. Having it there is insult to injury(of which I have to say that that particular cetacean is riddled with scars).
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 That is a Risso's dolphin,they scar very easily ,in the wild you can tell wether or not it's an old dolphin by how many scars they have,adults often have accumulated so many that thier bodies are nearly pure white.
Of course,with captive specimens,they don't get as many scars,especially if kept alone,so this one may be older than it looks.
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
The scarring does appear to be true about many individuals. All the same this animal should not be enslaved in a cove where the less attractive of it's family were murdered.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 While I dissagree with you on cetacean captivity,and this whale is being kept in a bay closer to Taiji town,Hatajiri bay where the whales are taken is abit further from town.But I do agree,the style of capture,if not the act of capture itself is terrible and since sound travels very well in water,one must wonder if the animals kept in net pens at Taiji whale museum can hear the terrible calls during fishing season....A sad thought is'nt it?
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
Well on captivity all I have to say is the average life span in captivity is lower for all cetaceans, while other animals in captivity live longer then their wild cousins, I believe that says enough. Then there's the fact that a lot them before being shipped away are kept in training pens in the sea not far from the continuing killing.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 Actually,while there are long lived individuals,the average lifespans arent that different from the captive cetaceans of today,and they will only continue to get a longer average lifespan as long as we don't forget to continue learning.
Remember,we've only been keeping this group of animals for a very few decades,while we've had many more decades,even centuries to learn how to take care of many of the land and semi-aquatic species kept in zoos.
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
From what I've seen the average for bottlenose dolphins in the wild is around 25 with the maximum life expectancy only being seen in wild populations, while in captivity the average for bottle nose is around 19. For orcas the numbers are far far worse. The fact that we need to give these animals anti-depressants and ulcer medicines as a frequent treatment is simply startling. If you have to drug an animal this frequently and heavily, you should own it.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 All of these points are old facts,the average life expectancy for a bottlenose dolphin these days,when well cared for are the same as that of wild dolphins,also,dolphins are not given anti depressants,and are only given ulcer medicine when they have an ulcer.... but if you're just going to keep saying no and denying everything,then i dont see the point in this conversation.
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
Well that's with saying well cared for, which is the whole point of this subject. I'm not denying anything, and these numbers of current statistics taken. Well yes, they are given ulcer medicine both when they have them, and to prevent them. I always found it funny how on tv they'd call it "vitamins". The average life spans are simply longer in the wild from current knowledge of the species. They all deserve to be rehabilitated for the wild.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 They are given vitamins aswell,to suplement whatever nutrients might have been lost in the freezing process used to kill any possible "bugs" may be in the fish.
Most wild dolphins found stranded have worms,captives almost never do.
And no they don't all "deserve" to be put into the wild because they can't all survive,most releases of captive dolphins result in death...I'd rather have a live,well taken cared for dolphin than one following boats begging for food.
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
Stranded individuals usually become stranded for a reason, that being they're sick, so the fact that they would have worms doesn't particularly surprise me. Most releases result in death? Where does this statistic come from? Lets see some experts who disagree, Laidlaw , Marine mammal veterinarian Dr. Lanny Cornell, Aubin, Balcomb, he Straits Times.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
I'm sure you'll respond to the Rick O'barry navy dolphin release, but I can hardly trust the navy with cetaceans, with them denying for years that sonar was killing them, and they had to be stopped by the courts, also the many things that have been suggested the navy has trained them to do.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
Many marine mammals have been rehabilitated from captivity and released, particularly seals, but many cetaceans.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 most releases of long term have ended in failiure.
this is a simple fact.
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
I doubt your comment holds any real validity. I'll give a very brief list that shows release is very possible.
1993. Flipper, a male bottlenose dolphin released off Laguna, Brazil after approximately ten years of captivity. Since release, Flipper has been seen along at least 155 miles off the coastline, often in the company of other dolphins.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
1992. Bahama Mama, an adult female bottlenose dolphin inadvertently released after at least seventeen years of captivity. No official follow-up occurred, however this dolphin was positively photo-identified up to eight months after release in the company of wild dolphins in the Bahamas.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
1992. Matt, an adult male bottlenose dolphin was rehabilitated, freezebranded, and then released after thirty-seven days at Mote Marine Laboratory's facility. Within a matter of minutes, he was associating with a mother-calf pair in the area. At least twelve sightings of Matt were reported in the first nine months following release.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
1992. Annessa, a captive-born Atlantic bottle-nose dolphin held at the Dolphin Research Center in the Florida Keys disappeared and was feared lost during a hurricane in August 1992. Annessa survived the hurricane, however, and was adopted by a pod of wild dolphins. She has been sighted numerous times - healthy and foraging on her own.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
1991. Rocky (male), Missie (female) and Silver (male), three bottlenose dolphins released off Turks and Caicos Islands, after twenty, twenty-two, and fifteen years of captivity respectively. "In the acclimation seapen, they learned how to capture live fish". Released September 1991. All have been re-sighted numerous times since then. In several of the recent sightings, Silver was in the company of JoJo, a "friendly" dolphin that swims near Club Med at Providenciales, Turks and Caicos.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
1990. Echo (male) and Misha (male), two adult bottlenose dolphins released intentionally after two years of research, with extensive follow-up. The dolphins had been captured in 1988 with the intention of studying aspects of their reintroduction following captivity. Released on 6th October 1990 off Bishop Harbor, Tampa Bay, Florida in the vicinity where they had been captured. These two dolphins have been re-sighted numerous times, and they appear to have successfully re-acclimated to the wild.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
1987. Joe (male) and Rosie (female), two bottlenose dolphins released off Wassaw Island, Georgia, after seven years of captivity. "All reports of their activity in the wild indicate that they are in good health and have associations with resident pods."
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
1979. Two Pacific bottlenose dolphins (six year old male, eight year old female) permitted ocean access after four years of captivity at Sea Life Park in Hawaii. The dolphins gradually ventured further from their seapen, and eventually after four months of ocean access, they chose to remain at sea.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
1972. Opo (female), a bottlenose dolphin returned to original capture site in Biscayne Bay, Florida after one year of captivity at Miami Seaquarium. No follow-up occurred, but the dolphin had readapted to diet of live fish and was allowed to swim away.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
Look up "In Opposition to Dolphin Captivity" it's an interview article of Dr. Lori Marino and her thoughts on captivity, and it's very enlightening, considering she's one of if not arguably thee best cetacean scientist.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 "The best" is subjective,I've talked to enough lead cetacean scientists to know what i'm talking about.
It seems I can't change your mind on this,youre stuck on the falsehoods,and I'm getting bored,so goodbye.
NavyPorpoiseMovement 1 year ago
@NavyPorpoiseMovement
false hoods? It sounds like anything that suggest free animals you will dictate as inherently false. I've provided the facts that these animals can be released, and live far better lives, that is worth more then noneducational amusement.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago