Koran facts: The earth is flat and the mountains are the roots. Embryology came from Greece medical beliefs and were wrong. The sun and moon circle the earth. Women are less intelligent than men. The moon gives off its own light. The sun sets in a puddle of mud at the end of the earth. Everyone knows that Yaheshua was not crucified. Miriam mother of Issa was not related to Aaron brother Moses since they lived about 1000 years apart. Many of the stories are borrowed from apocryphal sources.
Yeah, it's recited everywhere because of assimilation. Islam since it's inception has mandated and devised that it will assimilate everyone. It is mandated that everyone born as a human is G-ds property even if they don't know it yet. All those that do not except this are thrown into hellfire to burn for eternity. Nice religion you got there.
@tmr54543 you know what's stupid ???.....stupid is saying stupid to somthing that you don't know any thing about ...you don't even want to know....this is stuped .
Rogan. So produce one like it and bring out the errors in it. if you cant and you won't, ask yourself why you hated so much and even more why are you even watching this video and commenting on it
It isn't free from error and it is incredibly easy to duplicate....It's an incredibly mediocre book, full of errors and plagiarized history....Harry Potter is way more impressive.
To THINK and believe the Quran is miraculous, you have to either deny or be completely ignorant of everything that man had created or understood before islam.
WOW!!!! the people who wrote the quran DIDNT think mountains held up the sky?? its a miracle!!! that is just incredible!! oh my goodness...im literally lost for words.... praise allah!!!!....what a joke...
I am ashamed on myself to see a person like. I am a Born Muslim, but I dont Practice my great religion...May Allah Bless you and May Allah give me hedayat, Ameen.
1.) The Quran had grammar added to it hundreds of years later thereby removing any differences, in fact many Qurans were burned proving that the Quran was a work in progress even after Muhammad's death
2.) The Quran contains no scientific miracles unless anyone can prove otherwise with detail from only Quran/Hadith
3.) Companions/classical scholars for example say that alaqah means a blood clot which is scientifically wrong.
4.) The Quran believes in magic which is really silly
@aby1ism the quran doesnt believe in magic it believes in DARK magic. there are jinns that can enter a humans body. if it does muslim sheiks can perform an exorcism in which they read the quran on that person so the jinn exits them. it is 100% real it even causes heart and health problems and is extremely painful.
There is no such thing as magic or dark magic. If jinn and cause health problems then why is it not in any recognised scientific journals? Why has there not been scientific research to prove it really exists? Where is the empirical evidence?
@bionichampster He does that once in a few months. When it grows too long, he shaves it off completely and grow again. Perhaps he could just keep it in shape instead of completely shaving it off. Beard looks good on him.
@bionichampster Masha'Allah. I'm also growing my beard for about 20 days now but I'm worried how I'm going to maintain the full grown beard because they are in patches all over my face. I'll most probably have to go to a barbershop and ask them to take care of it for me. :)
@darklight254 "Commenters, don't waste ur lives in YouTube comments. They take a lot of time and get forgotten in the depths of the Internet."
What do you mean? I read the comments regularly. They are often the testing ground for scripts for future videos. And I have met many of my online friends and acquaintances by first having an exchange in comment sections. I wonder if you just don't like what you're reading here and want to persuade people to stop.
Mody Dick has the exact same qualities, its the same copy where ever you go in whatever language. There are first editions that will remain for as long as collectors are fanatical about first editions. Embryology in the Qur'an is a dead horse, sorry. The pagans believing the sky was held up by mountains? Yet Muslims believe Mountains have roots that stop earthquakes, so that would be the pot calling the kettle black. The common sense in the Qur'an was due to simple observation, nothing more.
@123backinyerface Indeed. There are blazingly obvious shortcomings in the Koran with respect to the nature of the heavens, embryology, planets, moon, and stars are all mixed up.
@MsMrNoface See you don't know anything about the Qur'an, what you know is spoon fed false information. The Qur'an never depended on just Uthman and Hafsa. It has been simultaneously transmitted by many Dozens of people and written down as well. Wether you goto to Russia, China, Arabia, Africa or America or even to Eskimos. They have the samke Qur'an word for word uptill now. You keep forgetting that we muslims MEMORIZE THE BOOK WORD FOR WORD. Tampering IS NOT POSSIBLE.
@MatrixOfDynamism "You keep forgetting that we muslims MEMORIZE THE BOOK WORD FOR WORD. Tampering IS NOT POSSIBLE." Then how do you explain Sahih Bukhari vol 6. 201 Where the original compiler Zaid bin Thabit complained
"By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains (from its place) it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Qur'an..." If people who had memorized the Koran were so common, why was Zaid upset?
@MsMrNoface Every Ramadan Muhammad recited the Qur'an from start to end in the Taraweeh. People heard him. He was the one who had scribes and had clearly indicated how each verse revealed in the last 23 years is to be put together. Your argument about Qur'an being manipulated is false because of the simple reason that transmission of Qur'an is so rigid and so cross checked that tampering cannot take place. There is NO OTHER BOOK in world transmitted this way,its not just about Uthman
@MatrixOfDynamism "Your argument about Qur'an being manipulated is false because of the simple reason that transmission of Qur'an is so rigid and so cross checked that tampering cannot take place."
And yet I could flood this page with sahih hadith that say verses were lost, found, and forgotten. Would you like to look at those texts?
your videos are so simple & to-the-point. alhamdulillah, it's usually stuff i already know, but the reminder is still so lovely! =] may Allah reward your efforts.
I read the Quran, but I fail to see what that miracle is. All I read was hateful shit, deceit (Q 16:101), peadophilia (Q 65:4), slave fucking (Q 33:50, Q 23:6, etc.), blackmail (Q 9:29). Did you know they falsely translated that verse? It starts with Qatiloo, which mean to kill or slaughter. Islam is a lie and Muhammad was a murderous psychopath. It's all in the Ahadeeth. Jewish tribes that lived around Medina were wiped of the map by Muhammad and his gang of immoral bedouins.
@ThankAllahAlways Q 16:101 And when We change a Verse (of the Qur'an,) in place of another - and Allah knows best what He sends down - they (the disbelievers) say: "You (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) are but a Muftari! (forger, liar)." Nay, but most of them know not. This is not deceiving people? So let me get this straight, Allah changes verses in the Quran, so basicly Allah is saying here that his word can't be trusted 'cause who's to say when Allah changes his mind?
@kuttenkijker People like to follow their desires and so if one verseis according to their desires, they say we are obedient to God but if the command is altered they no more want to obey it but call the Prophet as liar.
While the Prophet was only the conveyer of God's message
@ThankAllahAlways Q65:4 And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]....
You can marry and divorce young girls that didn't have their monthly courses, yet. Q 33:49, that verse states, no sex, no waiting period.
@ThankAllahAlways The Banu Sahm of Aslam came to the Messenger and complained, ‘Muhammad, we have been hurt by drought and possess nothing.' Although they had fought for the Prophet they found he had nothing [he was willing] to give them. The Apostle said, ‘O Allah, You know their condition—I have no strength and nothing [I want] to give them. So conquer for them the wealthiest of the Khaybar homes, the ones with the most food and fat meat.' (Al-Tabari, Vol. 8, p. 117)
@ThankAllahAlways Muhammad and his gang of immoral bedouins murdered every man, including young boys that had pubic hair, of the Jewish tribe Khaybar. And for what? War? No, they were looking for a free meal.
@ThankAllahAlways Q 9:29 Qatiloo allatheena la yuminoona biAllahi wala bialyawmi alakhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harrama Allahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqi mina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hatta yuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroona, Are you an Arab? What does Qatiloo mean? Kill or fight?
Do you find it non-impressive for a book to have the same wordings and the same way of recitation along with its memorisation and staying in the same form for 1400 years??
This life is a place of trial and many people are tried through adverse circumstances.
A very clear miracle needs extra amount of faith and post miracle devotion.
Most people lack these things.
God does not show clear miracle for this reason but if you get amputated and then earnestly ask Allah , He may give back your arms too, but then rejection of faith will bring severe punishment
@ThankAllahAlways: A miracle would be if that same book had appeared independently in numerous places throughout the world at the same time,in the age before telecommunications.Especially in the americas.A miracle would be if I could read the translation of the quran,and then no one said to me "you have to read it in arabian in order to get the true meaning".Those two should be a simple task for a god.
I must be missing something... You think because people memorize a holy book, it's inherently true?
Also, how do you get that science is in the Qur'an? There may be facts included in the Qur'an that can be validated by science, but that doesn't say anything about the validity of any other part of the book.
It would be akin to mixing Darwin's "Origin of Species" with "Spider-Man" and claiming that "Spider-Man" is therefor, scientific...
@ThankAllahAlways Yes, I have seen the Qur'an and it didn't impress me any more than the Bible, Torah or any other "holy book" for that matter. The fact that it's difficult to read speaks less to it's divine origin and more about either the fallibility of Allah or the fact that it was not inspired by the divine, but written entirely by men.
As far as those who have memorized the whole damn book, how in anyway does that make it any more valid than those who recite the Torah?
@MatrixOfDynamism Who the fuck said I read the whole Qur'an? I said I had "seen the Qur'an and it didn't impress me anymore than the Bible, Torah or any other 'holy book'"... (Exact quote.)
Why don't you address my points, instead of trying to play them off and challenging my knowledge of the Qur'an.
@ThankAllahAlways Fantastic. I'm glad that you all have a way of preserving your culture, through the memorization of your holy book... However, (as I said before) does not qualify as anything more than the capacity of the human brain for information. It doesn't mean you're holy book is true.
@ThankAllahAlways It speaks nothing to the truth of the book itself and just says that individuals who believe in the supernatural, will go to great lengths to please their chosen deity...
They can't all be right... But they CAN all be wrong.
@theirishfrog If you want you can get the answers from youtube already. I have talked with many others before that have similar mind like you, as far as I can infer from their comments. After having long conversation with them, I realize they just don't care about what I have to say. They ignore anything that challenges their preconconcieved notions about Islam, and when they can't ignore it will try to get some response from anti-Islam websites and copy-paste msg me. What a waste.
@MatrixOfDynamism Don't mistake my skepticism for being an asshole... I'm skeptical of all religion and there's nothing special about Islam that makes it stand out. So I apply the same scrutiny to Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shinto, etc.
But thus far, the logic that qwertyfshag (and other Muslims) has submitted has been sub-par, at best. So, unless you can find some sound logic, evidence and reason to back up a claim of religious validity, I'm still skeptical.
@theirishfrog I can see clearly from your comment that your knowledge about Qur'an is very very lacking. You do not even know the basic message of it "and just says that individuals who believe in the supernatural, will go to great lengths to please their chosen deity...". This comment shows your perspective. In reality you just want to get something to bash Islam and prove it to be rubbish, nothing less than that. You are don't care about any "truths" and have made up mind already
@MatrixOfDynamism: I love comments like this.You know,not everyone who disagrees with you wants something to bash islam with.And yet,instead of addressing a fairly simple question "What does memorizing a book has to do with its validity",you accuse the guy of being a basher.Address the argument,dont attack the argument maker.
You spend your day trolling muslim videos every single day. You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't even have a degree, yet you keep running your mouth. That's why nobody is taking you seriously.
@ThankAllahAlways: You know what other thing is huge?A book about anatomy.Yet would be medical doctors have to learn it by heart if they want to continue their studies.And thats only a snippet of what medical doctors need to learn.My mother still can recite the whole human body,and various illnesses and deformations that can appear,even 40 years after she has learned this stuff.Yes,human brain is an amazing thing,but it is not a miracle.
-It is a miracle that the Qur'an has a lot of scientific facts to be proved right centuries later and there are far too many scientific facts for it to be a coincidence.
-The Quran is a linguistic miracle and in the second chapter Allah challenges anyone to produce a chapter like it.
watch?v=7hPReDKyAqk
-The Qur'an has many mathematical miracles which just blew me away when I found them out.
-The Qur'an does not contradict itself at all or negate reality.
Adored and respected by 1.5 billion people? Comin on now you know that that is not the case. In 3rd world countries, the so called Muslims are too busy producing our clothe and petty materiels we think we need
Not only that, but Allaah azawajal said that the Quraan will be protected and saved and will not be corrupted and changed like the other previous scriptures like the Torah, Bible and Gospel.
One question:If quran is so perfect,then why does every muslim tell me "You dont get the point,you need to read it in arabic"?If it were a perfect book,written by an all mighty god,wouldnt it then read the same no matter which language it is being written in?That I would accept as a miracle.The way it is now,however,nothing shows that it is anything more than a man made piece of work.
Qur'an has never been revised and the reason is that it comes from God, thus there is no possibility of revision since Human never wrote it in the first place.
@MsMrNoface Unlike other "Scriptures", the Qur'an was memorized VERBATIM by a great many number of individuals in the very life of its transmitter i.e Muhammad. Why? Well because one can't make the 5 times daily Islamic prayer without it among other reasons. And there were significant people that had memorized the WHOLE book from Start to End! In these cirumstances no one and I mean NO ONE can modify the Qur'an and create a new one without there being a revolt or unrest against him!
@MatrixOfDynamism And yet Uthman began noticing variations on the Koran in his term as caliph, and chose to use Hafsa's version. And also where does the Koran tell you to pray five times a day? And there are a number of hadith which refer to surah's and ayah's that were left out. It seems your belief in an uncorrupted Koran is not as certain as you would like to assert.
@MsMrNoface Where are you getting your information from? The variation story is cliche that has been responded so many times now already. Point is there has always been 1 Qur'an, if there were variations they would be there in some "sects" somwhere. Go around the world and check EACH Qur'an in each country each city and village and each town. People (nonmuslims) have already done this but did not find "another Qur'an. If you know anything about Islam: Qur'an is transmitted ORALLY
@MatrixOfDynamism "Where are you getting your information from? The variation story is cliche that has been responded so many times now already." Center for Muslim-Jewish Engagement. What you assert does not eliminate the possibility that Uthman or hafsa could have made a mistake or had a preference. That would explain the hadith that refer to missing ayah and surah.
@MsMrNoface Seems this particular comment of yours as referring to the missing ayah, has been "accidentally" marked as spam. I hope its not 'deliberate' censorship but I'll just hit the "not spam" button to counter the "mistake". ;)
@MsMrNoface We have a continuos nonbreakable chain ot tranmission through MULTIPLE ways that go back to the prophet. They ALL have the SAME Qur'an and follow the PROPHET'S Way of Prayer i.e Qiyam, Ruku, Quamah, Jalsa, Sajda e.t.c and the units of prayers in all 5 times is SAME. E.g Two Rak’ats Farz for Fajr e.t.c Whether you goto Shia or Sunnis! Azan, and much more, same. Qur'an talks about Salaat many times, how to do it is taught by the prophet and we have inherited how HE prayed.
@MatrixOfDynamism From the tafsirs of Ibn Kathir on Koran 11:114 "...At that time there were only two obligatory prayers: a prayer before sunrise and a prayer before sunset. During the late night another prayer (Tahajjud) was also made obligatory upon the Prophet and his nation. Later, this obligation was abrogated for his nation and remained obligatory upon him . Finally, this obligation was abrogated for the Prophet as well, according to one opinion." Why would a perfect book need abrogation?
@MsMrNoface If Usman had created a new Qur'an this would create havoc against him. Since everybody had memorized much of Qur'an and plenty had memoirzed the FULL Qur'an.End of Argument! Qur'an is not like bible written on thousands of manuscripts for which no two are same, no one knows who wrote them, and normal public is restricted access to them. Qur'an is different. Qur'an is and has always been in the Minds of peole >verbatim< and passed down, only next to that it is on paper too
@MatrixOfDynamism "...plenty had memoirzed the FULL Qur'an.End of Argument!" I wasn't arguing. Your premise that the Koran is perfect relies upon, as I have already said, the assumption of the infallibility of oral transmission and further upon the perfect memories of Uthman and Hafsa. If you assume that they were flawless, then how do you explain sahih hadith that refer to surahs that no longer exist in the Koran?
1. Muhammad (Pbuh) can't read, but Quran beat even greatest poem by Shakespeare.
2. Muhammad (Pbuh) never learn or go to school, but Quran know about Planetary System and how the creation of us, from just tiny drop of sperm into "Human"
3. Muhammad (Pbuh) is not a Oracle, but Quran tells about fate of humanity, from beginning to end of the world (Armageddon)
4. Nobody could match Quran by process of writing, and by contents.
1. You assume that the Mohammed/Allah duality created the poetry in the Qur'an. You don't actually know that. For all you know he had help from people who could read and write. You're also making a meaningless subjective comparison between the Qur'an and Shakespeare.
2. That Mohammed went to school or not is entirely immaterial. We have no reason to think he was a complete moron, utterly isolated from 1000 year old Greek philosophy that we know was widely circulated in the Arab world. Especially with regards to medicine and biology.
How did Mohammed know about the connection between sperm and humans? He had children. Just as the Greeks understood this 1000 years earlier.
4. Again you make a meaningless subjective value judgement. It's fine that you like the Qur'an, but I find it to be inane drivel and your statement that nobody can match it is just incomprehensible. What on earth does it even mean to say the Qur'an can't be matched? Nobody looks to the Qur'an for information about reality today. It's entirely worthless for that and produces zero applications.
@declaration963 The only people who regard the Qur'an as impressive at all are .... drumroll... the muslims, who are emotionally invested in the idea that the book must be fantastic to begin with. Nobody else cares.
As for the "moral" content. If I need advice on how to beat my wife, how to divide loot after plundering my neighbors and what rights I have versus the sex slaves "Allah gave me" during my raiding(According to al Anfal), I'll look to the Qur'an.
@Gnomefro GET SHOCKED BRO ? sorry your troll is just stupid, and proves that you are either PAYED troll or simply ignorant, I'm blocking you and ignore your future comment :)
@declaration963: Excellent rebuttal!Someone offers you logical reasons as to why he disagrees with you,and instead of attacking those reasons,you attack the person making them.You arent defending your religion that way,you are just showing how Gnomefro is actually right,and how you are either ignorant,dumb,stubborn,narcissistic,or a despicable person.And I think qwertyfshag said in other videos how those are all traits of a bad muslim.Are you a bad muslim?
@DaemianLucifer if i was a "Bad Muslim" i kill your family with bombs hahaha... LOL
NO, but i believe "THE BEST WAY TO FIGHT TROLL IS IGNORE THEM" and you're the one who get ignored by me. don't waste your time to reply my comment again because after this, i just blocking you and ignore all of your future comment :)
@declaration963: So everyone who has different opinions than you is a troll?Great philosophy.Oh,and qwertyfshag says that allah hates you.Here,check it out: watch?v=NLq3cV7J-IQ
@declaration963 If I want to get along with other human beings, the Qur'an really has nothing to offer. It's high point in that regard is that it sets up an apartheid system allowing Christians and Jews to exist as subhumans in a muslim state. Everyone else, like polytheists, have zero rights though and tended to get slaughtered by the early muslims.
@cherish933 His references are "stereotype" and "brainwash media", just typical haters channel, no videos, new joint date, all comments just hating something and rant.
@declaration963 lol well said i think i might also start to ignore them , but honestly some trolls i have spoken to have become muslim no lie they just need us to tel them what we really believe otherwise they all are going to learn ISLAM form fox news and the rest of the other media tools
@cherish933 I hope Allah give them "hidayah" so they can see the lights of Islam on their hearth, i know some Muslim Haters now become Muslim believers, and i hope one day all of haters becomes Muslim :)
@cherish933: "they just need us to tel them what we really believe"
Please do.So far,all the others did here was to call people trolls for raising logical questions.Will you provide a logical answer,or will you join the masses of stubborn haters who can only yell troll?
@DaemianLucifer ".Will you provide a logical answer" that depends on what you are asking sir , i ask teachers seeker of knowledge those who hvae a certificate and are a reliable source of information . i am just a simpleton a 20 year old female who herself needs to know more about her faith in dept, i know my basic lets say and a lil some more . what is your question and i will try and forward it to a scholar ,or a student of this scholar. ?... nothing crude .
@cherish933: Well Gnomefro did already ask a few things,so I wont repeat those,Im just mentioning that those still remain open.
Anyhow,the one question that no one has yet even tried to answer is:If quran really was written by god,why do people say that it loses its meaning when it gets translated?If it really was such an important document to have,then why wasnt it made available to all the people at once,and in a way that you can understand it no matter what language you speak?
Qurán does not lose its MEANING if it is translated but its beauty is more perceived in Arabic, its language of revelation.
When a non-Muslims tries to read translation, and finds it scientifically inaccurate because the translator had a lack of knowledge of science so he chose the word that was inappropriate for that scientific sentence.
As present generation relies upon science for faith , they may find Qurán incompatible with science due to mistranslation
@declaration963 Anyway, if we disregard your points a second, I'll tell you why no book can be a miracle. A miracle, by definition, is a naturally impossible event. Writing books is simply not a naturally impossible event, and contrary to what muslims seem to think, there is no content in the Qur'an that necessitates divine intervention.
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@Gnomefro You're one giant troll. Desperate to voice his ignorance. Save your breath, Islam will continue to spread world wide, and there is nothing you can do about it.
@declaration963 That being the case, ANY naturalistic hypothesis of how the book came to be, including various types of fraud such as Mohammed pretending to be uneducated, buying poetry from the top Arabic poets at the time etc are far more likely than the least likely option - the miracle - where gods write books.
Either way, the idea that gods write books is just silly, because Mohammed's hearsay can not be distinguished from other types of similar nonsensical claims by us.
@declaration963 Because of this, if Allah existed and had something important to say to humanity, that is vital for us to avoid torture in Hell - he would not use a communication medium that doesn't carry a shred of his authority, and even a medium that almost nobody can even understand properly today due to it being ancient Arabic.
A real divine revelation would be first person - to everyone. Hearsay is simply never a justification for belief in miracles.
Allah existed and he had important things to say to humanity, so he sent to every nation a guide to guide them to him, to inform them that they all will be raised up one day to be requitted of their deeds so they need to beware.
Open any scripture of God and it talks about afterlife.
The last scripture of God is the only one well preserved but some directives towards afterlife is alway there in most scriptures
@declaration963: 1)Homer was blind,yet he wrote iliad and odyssey.Does that mean we should pray to zeus,athena,hera,and other olympians?
2)Greeks were describing robots,something that they couldnt even start building,let alone see(like the arabs could with fetuses,for example).Another point for the olympians.
3)Wheres your proof?
4)And lots of people would disagree and put numerous other books over quran.For example,christains would put bible.Subjective doesnt count.
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@DaemianLucifer You should get out of your basement, Troll. Get some fresh air and have real interactions with REAL people. Seriously, you've stayed in the basement for way too long.
@A2Neji: Uuu,I have a reputation now.Thanks.By the way,the only trollish behaviour I see here is from people ignoring reasonable and logical arguments in favour of ad hominems.
Oh,and calling others trolls while engaging acting like one is hypocritical.And what is it that your book says about hypocrites?
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@DaemianLucifer Oh poor little troll... I see now, you can't go outside because they won't pay you if you don't comment on every single muslim video, and spread lies and hatred. Is that why you're so desperate for people to engage with you? I truly feel sorry for you.
@declaration963 1. Perhaps this was initially true, but after 23 years of revelations and experience as a community leader it is unlikely he remained so. You like the Koran? The Iliad is much more exciting. 2. The statements concerning nature are as accurate as you would expect for a scholar of that time. 3. Muhammad predicted what exactly? 4. How would we demonstrate the Koran's unmatchableness? If you can't conceive of a means of falsifying your statement you should be suspicious of its truth.
The koran is very simple and repetitive. The embryology in it is false and has been proven so as have all of the other so called miracles. Bones don't form before flesh as it says in the koran. Basically it says the same thing over and over: "believe and you will be rewarded greatly, disbelieve and you will be punished horribly".
@CMO999 I don't want to check other's videos I want to check Quraan cause I'm sure they read a tanslated version of quraan so a lot of meanings lost in translation,I'm an arab , Give me the specific chapter and sector so I read it myself and form my opinion depending on the actual Quraan (in arabic) not on a translated version ..
@lo0lo0007: How is it that the word of almighty god can get lost in translation?Or is it that the god doesnt value all the people the same,but only his chosen ones?
@DaemianLucifer yes it can get lost on translation why it's simple
beacuse the translated version is written by a human, a human translated it so it could have some errors while the arabic version is came from God,God revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad peace be ubon him via the angel Gabriel in arabic language, then the followers of the prophet memorized it and wrote it word by word ,as it said in this video it's a mircale how people from any race can memorize the whole book perfectly :)
@lo0lo0007: Ok,but does that mean that god has a chosen race and thinks less of other people,because he chose one language over the others?Why didnt he make one prophet in each country?Or,written a book in such a way that it cannot get lost in translation.No human can do that,granted,but god isnt human.
And even if we disregard the language issue,why wasnt at least one prophet sent to the americas?Were all the people there considered to be not as worthy as euro-asia-africans?
@DaemianLucifer you asked many questions so my replay will be abit long sorry :)
A1 ,No not at all,There is a chosen language for Quraan but not a chosen people, God chose this lang for reasons related to the features of this language that distinguish it from others ,and other reasons related to the place which his message(islam) will start from ,if you want to know what exactly are the reasons you can find many videos about this issue.
@DaemianLucifer A3, let me clear this, the translated versions of quraan are so many I'm not saying that all are wrongs,I'm saying that it could have some mistakes or falws depending on how good and honest the translator is ,there is a website has good translated versions I can recommend it to you if you want ..
A2 A4,that doesn't make sense why for what ,logically if one succeed the message will be spread(an that’s what actually happened and happening) and people will be more unite one prophet one message despising all the differences worshipping one God, that’s why we feel equal.
@DaemianLucifer Would Listen to what prophet mohammad PBUH said" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action"
@DaemianLucifer Did you also know that the call of prayer(adhan) is in Arabic too whats the importance of that ?the answer is Unity , imagine if me)arab) ,Hispanic guy ,English guy, Japanese and Indian guy were in china for work and we are all muslims if the adhan was in Chinese lang how we will know this is the call of prayer O.O thats why adhan is in one language Arabic so anyone in anywhere even in the moon will know this is the call of prayer and gathered with other muslims to start praying
Koran facts: The earth is flat and the mountains are the roots. Embryology came from Greece medical beliefs and were wrong. The sun and moon circle the earth. Women are less intelligent than men. The moon gives off its own light. The sun sets in a puddle of mud at the end of the earth. Everyone knows that Yaheshua was not crucified. Miriam mother of Issa was not related to Aaron brother Moses since they lived about 1000 years apart. Many of the stories are borrowed from apocryphal sources.
ArchAngelGuziel00 5 days ago
Yeah, it's recited everywhere because of assimilation. Islam since it's inception has mandated and devised that it will assimilate everyone. It is mandated that everyone born as a human is G-ds property even if they don't know it yet. All those that do not except this are thrown into hellfire to burn for eternity. Nice religion you got there.
ArchAngelGuziel00 5 days ago
Stupid. Very stupid
tmr54543 2 weeks ago
@tmr54543 you know what's stupid ???.....stupid is saying stupid to somthing that you don't know any thing about ...you don't even want to know....this is stuped .
houssembp 5 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
Rogan. So produce one like it and bring out the errors in it. if you cant and you won't, ask yourself why you hated so much and even more why are you even watching this video and commenting on it
metal9023 2 weeks ago
It isn't free from error and it is incredibly easy to duplicate....It's an incredibly mediocre book, full of errors and plagiarized history....Harry Potter is way more impressive.
rogan71 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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To THINK and believe the Quran is miraculous, you have to either deny or be completely ignorant of everything that man had created or understood before islam.
6thMessenger 4 weeks ago
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Yewon2001 1 month ago in playlist More videos from qwertyfshag
WOW!!!! the people who wrote the quran DIDNT think mountains held up the sky?? its a miracle!!! that is just incredible!! oh my goodness...im literally lost for words.... praise allah!!!!....what a joke...
frusciantefan122 1 month ago
I am ashamed on myself to see a person like. I am a Born Muslim, but I dont Practice my great religion...May Allah Bless you and May Allah give me hedayat, Ameen.
sanju61822 1 month ago
1.) The Quran had grammar added to it hundreds of years later thereby removing any differences, in fact many Qurans were burned proving that the Quran was a work in progress even after Muhammad's death
2.) The Quran contains no scientific miracles unless anyone can prove otherwise with detail from only Quran/Hadith
3.) Companions/classical scholars for example say that alaqah means a blood clot which is scientifically wrong.
4.) The Quran believes in magic which is really silly
aby1ism 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@aby1ism the quran doesnt believe in magic it believes in DARK magic. there are jinns that can enter a humans body. if it does muslim sheiks can perform an exorcism in which they read the quran on that person so the jinn exits them. it is 100% real it even causes heart and health problems and is extremely painful.
metalflames4 1 month ago
@metalflames4
There is no such thing as magic or dark magic. If jinn and cause health problems then why is it not in any recognised scientific journals? Why has there not been scientific research to prove it really exists? Where is the empirical evidence?
aby1ism 1 month ago
@aby1ism
takhuthor alddm =تخثر الدم= blood clotting
:) علقة = alaqah= leech
MrDeeera 1 month ago
@aby1ism the cave men slept for how many time in the cave ? they slept for 300 years +9 years
long time yaaaa
how did they make it.
MrDeeera 1 month ago
@MrDeeera
People don't sleep for 309 years and the only people who claim people do never provide any evidence.
aby1ism 1 month ago
Hey what happened to your beard! :D
bionichampster 1 month ago
@bionichampster He does that once in a few months. When it grows too long, he shaves it off completely and grow again. Perhaps he could just keep it in shape instead of completely shaving it off. Beard looks good on him.
Asemahdi3 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Asemahdi3 yeah it does. I been growing my beard too. I keep it in shape instead of shaving it off though. There is no going back now!
bionichampster 1 month ago
@bionichampster Masha'Allah. I'm also growing my beard for about 20 days now but I'm worried how I'm going to maintain the full grown beard because they are in patches all over my face. I'll most probably have to go to a barbershop and ask them to take care of it for me. :)
Asemahdi3 1 month ago
the quran is wrong about embryology ... durp!
smokeathon13 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@smokeathon13
Qur'an is right about every aspect of embryology it describes
ThankAllahAlways 1 month ago
OMG YOU'VE SHAVED YOUR BEARD!!! :D
ulula97 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
hypnotise? I agree there, all religious are brainwashed.....such a shame, you believed a lie and spread it like a cancer!
BadLilNinja 1 month ago
Brother what happened to your beard?
zameersd 1 month ago
yeah you are Right ..
Al-Hamdo lellah i read Quran after pray Al : Fajer, Dohor, Aser, Magreb and Esha.
and i memorized some of Surah.
i wanna be like those ppl who memorized every single letters in the Quran ^^
thank you Bro ..
Jomanjo4Ever 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2
Commenters, don't waste ur lives in YouTube comments. They take a lot of time and get forgotten in the depths of the Internet.
darklight254 2 months ago
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@darklight254 "Commenters, don't waste ur lives in YouTube comments. They take a lot of time and get forgotten in the depths of the Internet."
What do you mean? I read the comments regularly. They are often the testing ground for scripts for future videos. And I have met many of my online friends and acquaintances by first having an exchange in comment sections. I wonder if you just don't like what you're reading here and want to persuade people to stop.
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@darklight254 yea people who comment are wasting their time
Pkangel58 1 month ago
@Pkangel58 no we are not , God will rewards us :)
lo0lo0007 1 month ago
Mashallah,it is very nice to see people like you
explain and talk about Islam to non muslim
keep going
your brother from Medina
axaxa18 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 22
MASHALLAH
brightside786 2 months ago
Mody Dick has the exact same qualities, its the same copy where ever you go in whatever language. There are first editions that will remain for as long as collectors are fanatical about first editions. Embryology in the Qur'an is a dead horse, sorry. The pagans believing the sky was held up by mountains? Yet Muslims believe Mountains have roots that stop earthquakes, so that would be the pot calling the kettle black. The common sense in the Qur'an was due to simple observation, nothing more.
123backinyerface 2 months ago
@123backinyerface Indeed. There are blazingly obvious shortcomings in the Koran with respect to the nature of the heavens, embryology, planets, moon, and stars are all mixed up.
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface See you don't know anything about the Qur'an, what you know is spoon fed false information. The Qur'an never depended on just Uthman and Hafsa. It has been simultaneously transmitted by many Dozens of people and written down as well. Wether you goto to Russia, China, Arabia, Africa or America or even to Eskimos. They have the samke Qur'an word for word uptill now. You keep forgetting that we muslims MEMORIZE THE BOOK WORD FOR WORD. Tampering IS NOT POSSIBLE.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism "You keep forgetting that we muslims MEMORIZE THE BOOK WORD FOR WORD. Tampering IS NOT POSSIBLE." Then how do you explain Sahih Bukhari vol 6. 201 Where the original compiler Zaid bin Thabit complained
"By Allah, if he (Abu Bakr) had ordered me to shift one of the mountains (from its place) it would not have been harder for me than what he had ordered me concerning the collection of the Qur'an..." If people who had memorized the Koran were so common, why was Zaid upset?
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface Every Ramadan Muhammad recited the Qur'an from start to end in the Taraweeh. People heard him. He was the one who had scribes and had clearly indicated how each verse revealed in the last 23 years is to be put together. Your argument about Qur'an being manipulated is false because of the simple reason that transmission of Qur'an is so rigid and so cross checked that tampering cannot take place. There is NO OTHER BOOK in world transmitted this way,its not just about Uthman
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism "Your argument about Qur'an being manipulated is false because of the simple reason that transmission of Qur'an is so rigid and so cross checked that tampering cannot take place."
And yet I could flood this page with sahih hadith that say verses were lost, found, and forgotten. Would you like to look at those texts?
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface: I would.I know of few links already,but more is not a bad thing.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface Can you give me some of those hadiths?
fandanstan 1 month ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2
your videos are so simple & to-the-point. alhamdulillah, it's usually stuff i already know, but the reminder is still so lovely! =] may Allah reward your efforts.
armanijared 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2
hey qwertyfshag...hi :)
PerfectGonard 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I read the Quran, but I fail to see what that miracle is. All I read was hateful shit, deceit (Q 16:101), peadophilia (Q 65:4), slave fucking (Q 33:50, Q 23:6, etc.), blackmail (Q 9:29). Did you know they falsely translated that verse? It starts with Qatiloo, which mean to kill or slaughter. Islam is a lie and Muhammad was a murderous psychopath. It's all in the Ahadeeth. Jewish tribes that lived around Medina were wiped of the map by Muhammad and his gang of immoral bedouins.
kuttenkijker 2 months ago
@kuttenkijker
Qurán 16:101 has no refernce to deceit nor Qurán 65:4 refers to any paedophilia.
Your references are wrong
Qurán needs to be understood with the context of its revelation.
Read Tafseer of every chapter to understand the background of revelation of said verse
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways Q 16:101 And when We change a Verse (of the Qur'an,) in place of another - and Allah knows best what He sends down - they (the disbelievers) say: "You (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) are but a Muftari! (forger, liar)." Nay, but most of them know not. This is not deceiving people? So let me get this straight, Allah changes verses in the Quran, so basicly Allah is saying here that his word can't be trusted 'cause who's to say when Allah changes his mind?
kuttenkijker 2 months ago
@kuttenkijker People like to follow their desires and so if one verseis according to their desires, they say we are obedient to God but if the command is altered they no more want to obey it but call the Prophet as liar.
While the Prophet was only the conveyer of God's message
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways Q65:4 And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]....
You can marry and divorce young girls that didn't have their monthly courses, yet. Q 33:49, that verse states, no sex, no waiting period.
kuttenkijker 2 months ago
@kuttenkijker
No sex No waiting period but those women who are adolesent and are mature can marry even when they do not have menses such as Turner's syndrome ,
/watch?v=dMt5nibNEnc
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
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@ThankAllahAlways The Banu Sahm of Aslam came to the Messenger and complained, ‘Muhammad, we have been hurt by drought and possess nothing.' Although they had fought for the Prophet they found he had nothing [he was willing] to give them. The Apostle said, ‘O Allah, You know their condition—I have no strength and nothing [I want] to give them. So conquer for them the wealthiest of the Khaybar homes, the ones with the most food and fat meat.' (Al-Tabari, Vol. 8, p. 117)
kuttenkijker 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways Muhammad and his gang of immoral bedouins murdered every man, including young boys that had pubic hair, of the Jewish tribe Khaybar. And for what? War? No, they were looking for a free meal.
kuttenkijker 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways Q 9:29 Qatiloo allatheena la yuminoona biAllahi wala bialyawmi alakhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harrama Allahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqi mina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hatta yuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroona, Are you an Arab? What does Qatiloo mean? Kill or fight?
kuttenkijker 2 months ago
@kuttenkijker
Things are being described during war
It is not meant for general times/
Shouldn't one gight in war to gain the upper hand??
Read the background reason of revelation of ninth chapter.
There was peace treaty which was broken many times so war was declared for those who did not respect peace treaty
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
Quran is the key of live
thepurpleraja 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2 7
It's recited the same everywhere, therefore it's true!
Is this the culmination of your best argument? Man, very convincing.
"Pagans thought the sky has pillars. The Qur'an says the sky does not have pillars"
Thank you, captain obvious LOL
Yep, wonderful arguments. I'm converted.
bailesie 2 months ago 2
@bailesie
He has given a few reasons for its Divine origin.
Do you find it non-impressive for a book to have the same wordings and the same way of recitation along with its memorisation and staying in the same form for 1400 years??
Then what will be considered a miracle by you?
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways What would be a miracle? An amputee praying to have their arms or legs back and they appear magically over night.
There's nothing magical or mystical about your Abrahamic god. In fact, most of it is repulsive, not impressive.
bailesie 2 months ago
@bailesie
This life is a place of trial and many people are tried through adverse circumstances.
A very clear miracle needs extra amount of faith and post miracle devotion.
Most people lack these things.
God does not show clear miracle for this reason but if you get amputated and then earnestly ask Allah , He may give back your arms too, but then rejection of faith will bring severe punishment
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways // rejection of faith will bring severe punishment //
Ah, the old Battered Wives syndrome. It's okay for religion to get by with that fearmongering.
If you believe out of fear, you're in it for the wrong reasons.
bailesie 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways: A miracle would be if that same book had appeared independently in numerous places throughout the world at the same time,in the age before telecommunications.Especially in the americas.A miracle would be if I could read the translation of the quran,and then no one said to me "you have to read it in arabian in order to get the true meaning".Those two should be a simple task for a god.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
I must be missing something... You think because people memorize a holy book, it's inherently true?
Also, how do you get that science is in the Qur'an? There may be facts included in the Qur'an that can be validated by science, but that doesn't say anything about the validity of any other part of the book.
It would be akin to mixing Darwin's "Origin of Species" with "Spider-Man" and claiming that "Spider-Man" is therefor, scientific...
Please explain.
theirishfrog 2 months ago
@theirishfrog
Have you seen the volume of Holy Qurán?
It has 114 chapters and there are about 6000 sentences called verses in it
Is it easy for everyone to memorise such a huge volume along with the way it is supposed to be recited?
It is difficult to read it even once !
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago 6
@ThankAllahAlways Yes, I have seen the Qur'an and it didn't impress me any more than the Bible, Torah or any other "holy book" for that matter. The fact that it's difficult to read speaks less to it's divine origin and more about either the fallibility of Allah or the fact that it was not inspired by the divine, but written entirely by men.
As far as those who have memorized the whole damn book, how in anyway does that make it any more valid than those who recite the Torah?
theirishfrog 2 months ago
@theirishfrog Since you have read the whole Qur'an you must be knowing a lot of Arabic than I guess.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism Who the fuck said I read the whole Qur'an? I said I had "seen the Qur'an and it didn't impress me anymore than the Bible, Torah or any other 'holy book'"... (Exact quote.)
Why don't you address my points, instead of trying to play them off and challenging my knowledge of the Qur'an.
theirishfrog 2 months ago
@theirishfrog
Memorisation is a way of preserving the book
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways Fantastic. I'm glad that you all have a way of preserving your culture, through the memorization of your holy book... However, (as I said before) does not qualify as anything more than the capacity of the human brain for information. It doesn't mean you're holy book is true.
theirishfrog 2 months ago
@theirishfrog
You did not even read my comment to which you responded.
It is huge so it is difficult to finish reading it once so how about memorising it.
There are many different covers of Qurán then you can chose to SEE what you like but we are talking about reading the Qurán with understanding
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways It speaks nothing to the truth of the book itself and just says that individuals who believe in the supernatural, will go to great lengths to please their chosen deity...
They can't all be right... But they CAN all be wrong.
theirishfrog 2 months ago
@theirishfrog If you want you can get the answers from youtube already. I have talked with many others before that have similar mind like you, as far as I can infer from their comments. After having long conversation with them, I realize they just don't care about what I have to say. They ignore anything that challenges their preconconcieved notions about Islam, and when they can't ignore it will try to get some response from anti-Islam websites and copy-paste msg me. What a waste.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism Don't mistake my skepticism for being an asshole... I'm skeptical of all religion and there's nothing special about Islam that makes it stand out. So I apply the same scrutiny to Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shinto, etc.
But thus far, the logic that qwertyfshag (and other Muslims) has submitted has been sub-par, at best. So, unless you can find some sound logic, evidence and reason to back up a claim of religious validity, I'm still skeptical.
theirishfrog 2 months ago
@theirishfrog I can see clearly from your comment that your knowledge about Qur'an is very very lacking. You do not even know the basic message of it "and just says that individuals who believe in the supernatural, will go to great lengths to please their chosen deity...". This comment shows your perspective. In reality you just want to get something to bash Islam and prove it to be rubbish, nothing less than that. You are don't care about any "truths" and have made up mind already
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism: I love comments like this.You know,not everyone who disagrees with you wants something to bash islam with.And yet,instead of addressing a fairly simple question "What does memorizing a book has to do with its validity",you accuse the guy of being a basher.Address the argument,dont attack the argument maker.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
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@DaemianLucifer Your arguments are addressed and refuted, yet you keep mentioning them. That's why you're a troll and a waste of time.
A2Neji 1 month ago
@A2Neji: Except for:
1)This wasnt my question.
2)It wasnt addressed.
3)It was a question,so it cannot be refuted,only answered.
At least learn to read and recognize different users before you continue your trolling.Thanks for the laugh though.
DaemianLucifer 1 month ago
@DaemianLucifer
1) I'm talking about you in general.
2) Yes it was addressed, but you lie about it.
You spend your day trolling muslim videos every single day. You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't even have a degree, yet you keep running your mouth. That's why nobody is taking you seriously.
A2Neji 1 month ago
@DaemianLucifer @DaemianLucifer
just in case
you never knowv
if one day you wanted to check the Qurann this is the website I talked to you about
qurandislam
it has many langugaes each has many versions,you can choose any language any chapter sector and start reading
also you can listen to Quraan while reading it there many readers to choose from too
another thing I know you hate me now cause I talked so much but
would you listen to ths video for me Daemian xD
watch?v=72Yx3_i0pHw&lc
lo0lo0007 1 month ago
@lo0lo0007: That is appreceated,thanks.
DaemianLucifer 1 month ago
@DaemianLucifer
do you know what
I will not give up on you until you give up on me
allahu akbar :D so what about moving the conversation from here to our messages inbox? it will be much easier , are you ok with that ??
lo0lo0007 1 month ago
@lo0lo0007: Youre right,it will be easier.Ill send you a message instead.
DaemianLucifer 1 month ago
@DaemianLucifer or we keep it here if someone want to join
I don't know , as you like
lo0lo0007 1 month ago
@ThankAllahAlways: You know what other thing is huge?A book about anatomy.Yet would be medical doctors have to learn it by heart if they want to continue their studies.And thats only a snippet of what medical doctors need to learn.My mother still can recite the whole human body,and various illnesses and deformations that can appear,even 40 years after she has learned this stuff.Yes,human brain is an amazing thing,but it is not a miracle.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
u are everythings but brother u have shaved ur beard :((
Azeeer511544 2 months ago
SubahanAllah
TeenageIronman 2 months ago
-It is a miracle that the Qur'an has a lot of scientific facts to be proved right centuries later and there are far too many scientific facts for it to be a coincidence.
-The Quran is a linguistic miracle and in the second chapter Allah challenges anyone to produce a chapter like it.
watch?v=7hPReDKyAqk
-The Qur'an has many mathematical miracles which just blew me away when I found them out.
-The Qur'an does not contradict itself at all or negate reality.
HamzaTzortzis(dot)com
soltbolz 2 months ago
جزاك الله خير
yassenhoobi 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2
Pagans used to cover their ears not to be hypnotised with quran LOL
lahoucine66 2 months ago
kj
hertot 2 months ago
yeah so many muslims memorize it, but they dont know the meanings.. we also need to know the meanings..
ZombieZiel 2 months ago
@ZombieZiel if all the quran is not clear , the commendements & guidance are made as clear as the sun & that's what god will judge us with
lahoucine66 2 months ago
MashAllah brother great video again
mediterano0 2 months ago
i watched most of your videos and i like them all but
i have to say this without your beard you looks like a jokers!
farhanea 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2
@qwertyfshag
qwertyfshag ... why do you keep shaving your beard -_-
don't you want to look like prophet Mohammed ?
GBBWAR 2 months ago
@qwertyfshag MashaALLAH Brother Your Doing a Great Job :)
Czaristic 2 months ago
Quran is truth. Brings peace to my heart.
jubzfree 2 months ago
Adored and respected by 1.5 billion people? Comin on now you know that that is not the case. In 3rd world countries, the so called Muslims are too busy producing our clothe and petty materiels we think we need
Thomachesankara 2 months ago
I love for this kind of videos save bro
angarangarangarangar 2 months ago
So true. One of your best video's yet
NocriZle 2 months ago
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ERHABY219 2 months ago
Not only that, but Allaah azawajal said that the Quraan will be protected and saved and will not be corrupted and changed like the other previous scriptures like the Torah, Bible and Gospel.
PeacefulRaindrops 2 months ago in playlist More videos from qwertyfshag
One question:If quran is so perfect,then why does every muslim tell me "You dont get the point,you need to read it in arabic"?If it were a perfect book,written by an all mighty god,wouldnt it then read the same no matter which language it is being written in?That I would accept as a miracle.The way it is now,however,nothing shows that it is anything more than a man made piece of work.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
what scientific info does the quran contain
LarrenceUmpersalt 2 months ago
@LarrenceUmpersalt
visit islam-guide(dot)com
daoudhaz 2 months ago
Qur'an has never been revised and the reason is that it comes from God, thus there is no possibility of revision since Human never wrote it in the first place.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism Assuming Hafsa and Uthman were flawless in their memory and judgment then yeah, there is no possibility.
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface Unlike other "Scriptures", the Qur'an was memorized VERBATIM by a great many number of individuals in the very life of its transmitter i.e Muhammad. Why? Well because one can't make the 5 times daily Islamic prayer without it among other reasons. And there were significant people that had memorized the WHOLE book from Start to End! In these cirumstances no one and I mean NO ONE can modify the Qur'an and create a new one without there being a revolt or unrest against him!
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism And yet Uthman began noticing variations on the Koran in his term as caliph, and chose to use Hafsa's version. And also where does the Koran tell you to pray five times a day? And there are a number of hadith which refer to surah's and ayah's that were left out. It seems your belief in an uncorrupted Koran is not as certain as you would like to assert.
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface Where are you getting your information from? The variation story is cliche that has been responded so many times now already. Point is there has always been 1 Qur'an, if there were variations they would be there in some "sects" somwhere. Go around the world and check EACH Qur'an in each country each city and village and each town. People (nonmuslims) have already done this but did not find "another Qur'an. If you know anything about Islam: Qur'an is transmitted ORALLY
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
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@MatrixOfDynamism "Where are you getting your information from? The variation story is cliche that has been responded so many times now already." Center for Muslim-Jewish Engagement. What you assert does not eliminate the possibility that Uthman or hafsa could have made a mistake or had a preference. That would explain the hadith that refer to missing ayah and surah.
MsMrNoface 2 months ago 3
@MsMrNoface Seems this particular comment of yours as referring to the missing ayah, has been "accidentally" marked as spam. I hope its not 'deliberate' censorship but I'll just hit the "not spam" button to counter the "mistake". ;)
123backinyerface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface We have a continuos nonbreakable chain ot tranmission through MULTIPLE ways that go back to the prophet. They ALL have the SAME Qur'an and follow the PROPHET'S Way of Prayer i.e Qiyam, Ruku, Quamah, Jalsa, Sajda e.t.c and the units of prayers in all 5 times is SAME. E.g Two Rak’ats Farz for Fajr e.t.c Whether you goto Shia or Sunnis! Azan, and much more, same. Qur'an talks about Salaat many times, how to do it is taught by the prophet and we have inherited how HE prayed.
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism From the tafsirs of Ibn Kathir on Koran 11:114 "...At that time there were only two obligatory prayers: a prayer before sunrise and a prayer before sunset. During the late night another prayer (Tahajjud) was also made obligatory upon the Prophet and his nation. Later, this obligation was abrogated for his nation and remained obligatory upon him . Finally, this obligation was abrogated for the Prophet as well, according to one opinion." Why would a perfect book need abrogation?
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
@MsMrNoface If Usman had created a new Qur'an this would create havoc against him. Since everybody had memorized much of Qur'an and plenty had memoirzed the FULL Qur'an.End of Argument! Qur'an is not like bible written on thousands of manuscripts for which no two are same, no one knows who wrote them, and normal public is restricted access to them. Qur'an is different. Qur'an is and has always been in the Minds of peole >verbatim< and passed down, only next to that it is on paper too
MatrixOfDynamism 2 months ago
@MatrixOfDynamism "...plenty had memoirzed the FULL Qur'an.End of Argument!" I wasn't arguing. Your premise that the Koran is perfect relies upon, as I have already said, the assumption of the infallibility of oral transmission and further upon the perfect memories of Uthman and Hafsa. If you assume that they were flawless, then how do you explain sahih hadith that refer to surahs that no longer exist in the Koran?
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
same exact thing with the torah
LarrenceUmpersalt 2 months ago
Quran is awsome very easy to read and beautifull.
iOutComei 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2 16
@iOutComei
True
qwertyfshag 2 months ago
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@qwertyfshag thanks and the BEST way to show them the true religion in a since way IS QURAN .
by the way , did you shaved your beard @@ ?
ERHABY219 2 months ago
Of course it's miracle, why ?
1. Muhammad (Pbuh) can't read, but Quran beat even greatest poem by Shakespeare.
2. Muhammad (Pbuh) never learn or go to school, but Quran know about Planetary System and how the creation of us, from just tiny drop of sperm into "Human"
3. Muhammad (Pbuh) is not a Oracle, but Quran tells about fate of humanity, from beginning to end of the world (Armageddon)
4. Nobody could match Quran by process of writing, and by contents.
declaration963 2 months ago 25
@declaration963
1. You assume that the Mohammed/Allah duality created the poetry in the Qur'an. You don't actually know that. For all you know he had help from people who could read and write. You're also making a meaningless subjective comparison between the Qur'an and Shakespeare.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@declaration963
2. That Mohammed went to school or not is entirely immaterial. We have no reason to think he was a complete moron, utterly isolated from 1000 year old Greek philosophy that we know was widely circulated in the Arab world. Especially with regards to medicine and biology.
How did Mohammed know about the connection between sperm and humans? He had children. Just as the Greeks understood this 1000 years earlier.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@declaration963
4. Again you make a meaningless subjective value judgement. It's fine that you like the Qur'an, but I find it to be inane drivel and your statement that nobody can match it is just incomprehensible. What on earth does it even mean to say the Qur'an can't be matched? Nobody looks to the Qur'an for information about reality today. It's entirely worthless for that and produces zero applications.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@declaration963 The only people who regard the Qur'an as impressive at all are .... drumroll... the muslims, who are emotionally invested in the idea that the book must be fantastic to begin with. Nobody else cares.
As for the "moral" content. If I need advice on how to beat my wife, how to divide loot after plundering my neighbors and what rights I have versus the sex slaves "Allah gave me" during my raiding(According to al Anfal), I'll look to the Qur'an.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@Gnomefro GET SHOCKED BRO ? sorry your troll is just stupid, and proves that you are either PAYED troll or simply ignorant, I'm blocking you and ignore your future comment :)
declaration963 2 months ago
@declaration963: Excellent rebuttal!Someone offers you logical reasons as to why he disagrees with you,and instead of attacking those reasons,you attack the person making them.You arent defending your religion that way,you are just showing how Gnomefro is actually right,and how you are either ignorant,dumb,stubborn,narcissistic,or a despicable person.And I think qwertyfshag said in other videos how those are all traits of a bad muslim.Are you a bad muslim?
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer if i was a "Bad Muslim" i kill your family with bombs hahaha... LOL
NO, but i believe "THE BEST WAY TO FIGHT TROLL IS IGNORE THEM" and you're the one who get ignored by me. don't waste your time to reply my comment again because after this, i just blocking you and ignore all of your future comment :)
declaration963 2 months ago
@declaration963: So everyone who has different opinions than you is a troll?Great philosophy.Oh,and qwertyfshag says that allah hates you.Here,check it out: watch?v=NLq3cV7J-IQ
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@declaration963 If I want to get along with other human beings, the Qur'an really has nothing to offer. It's high point in that regard is that it sets up an apartheid system allowing Christians and Jews to exist as subhumans in a muslim state. Everyone else, like polytheists, have zero rights though and tended to get slaughtered by the early muslims.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@Gnomefro lol , and your references are ?
cherish933 2 months ago
@cherish933 His references are "stereotype" and "brainwash media", just typical haters channel, no videos, new joint date, all comments just hating something and rant.
best way to fight trolls is IGNORE them :)
declaration963 2 months ago
@declaration963 lol well said i think i might also start to ignore them , but honestly some trolls i have spoken to have become muslim no lie they just need us to tel them what we really believe otherwise they all are going to learn ISLAM form fox news and the rest of the other media tools
cherish933 2 months ago
@cherish933 I hope Allah give them "hidayah" so they can see the lights of Islam on their hearth, i know some Muslim Haters now become Muslim believers, and i hope one day all of haters becomes Muslim :)
declaration963 2 months ago
@declaration963 Ameen :)
cherish933 2 months ago
@cherish933: "they just need us to tel them what we really believe"
Please do.So far,all the others did here was to call people trolls for raising logical questions.Will you provide a logical answer,or will you join the masses of stubborn haters who can only yell troll?
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer ".Will you provide a logical answer" that depends on what you are asking sir , i ask teachers seeker of knowledge those who hvae a certificate and are a reliable source of information . i am just a simpleton a 20 year old female who herself needs to know more about her faith in dept, i know my basic lets say and a lil some more . what is your question and i will try and forward it to a scholar ,or a student of this scholar. ?... nothing crude .
cherish933 2 months ago
@cherish933: Well Gnomefro did already ask a few things,so I wont repeat those,Im just mentioning that those still remain open.
Anyhow,the one question that no one has yet even tried to answer is:If quran really was written by god,why do people say that it loses its meaning when it gets translated?If it really was such an important document to have,then why wasnt it made available to all the people at once,and in a way that you can understand it no matter what language you speak?
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer
Qurán does not lose its MEANING if it is translated but its beauty is more perceived in Arabic, its language of revelation.
When a non-Muslims tries to read translation, and finds it scientifically inaccurate because the translator had a lack of knowledge of science so he chose the word that was inappropriate for that scientific sentence.
As present generation relies upon science for faith , they may find Qurán incompatible with science due to mistranslation
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@ThankAllahAlways: That which you have described is losing the meaning.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@declaration963 Anyway, if we disregard your points a second, I'll tell you why no book can be a miracle. A miracle, by definition, is a naturally impossible event. Writing books is simply not a naturally impossible event, and contrary to what muslims seem to think, there is no content in the Qur'an that necessitates divine intervention.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
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@Gnomefro You're one giant troll. Desperate to voice his ignorance. Save your breath, Islam will continue to spread world wide, and there is nothing you can do about it.
A2Neji 2 months ago
@declaration963 That being the case, ANY naturalistic hypothesis of how the book came to be, including various types of fraud such as Mohammed pretending to be uneducated, buying poetry from the top Arabic poets at the time etc are far more likely than the least likely option - the miracle - where gods write books.
Either way, the idea that gods write books is just silly, because Mohammed's hearsay can not be distinguished from other types of similar nonsensical claims by us.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@Gnomefro
This is because you did not read any scripture with earnest desire to find God.
All you have is an intention to reject revelations
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@declaration963 Because of this, if Allah existed and had something important to say to humanity, that is vital for us to avoid torture in Hell - he would not use a communication medium that doesn't carry a shred of his authority, and even a medium that almost nobody can even understand properly today due to it being ancient Arabic.
A real divine revelation would be first person - to everyone. Hearsay is simply never a justification for belief in miracles.
Gnomefro 2 months ago
@Gnomefro
Allah existed and he had important things to say to humanity, so he sent to every nation a guide to guide them to him, to inform them that they all will be raised up one day to be requitted of their deeds so they need to beware.
Open any scripture of God and it talks about afterlife.
The last scripture of God is the only one well preserved but some directives towards afterlife is alway there in most scriptures
ThankAllahAlways 2 months ago
@declaration963: 1)Homer was blind,yet he wrote iliad and odyssey.Does that mean we should pray to zeus,athena,hera,and other olympians?
2)Greeks were describing robots,something that they couldnt even start building,let alone see(like the arabs could with fetuses,for example).Another point for the olympians.
3)Wheres your proof?
4)And lots of people would disagree and put numerous other books over quran.For example,christains would put bible.Subjective doesnt count.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
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@DaemianLucifer You should get out of your basement, Troll. Get some fresh air and have real interactions with REAL people. Seriously, you've stayed in the basement for way too long.
A2Neji 2 months ago
@A2Neji: Projecting much?When faced by logical arguments you respond with ad hominem,instead of addressing any of the arguments.
So far,the two muslims that have responded to my arguments here have both been arrogant and ignorant.Not really good image for your religion.
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
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@DaemianLucifer Your reputation of being a troll precedes you. That's why nobody is engaging with your "arguments".
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@A2Neji: Uuu,I have a reputation now.Thanks.By the way,the only trollish behaviour I see here is from people ignoring reasonable and logical arguments in favour of ad hominems.
Oh,and calling others trolls while engaging acting like one is hypocritical.And what is it that your book says about hypocrites?
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
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@DaemianLucifer Oh poor little troll... I see now, you can't go outside because they won't pay you if you don't comment on every single muslim video, and spread lies and hatred. Is that why you're so desperate for people to engage with you? I truly feel sorry for you.
A2Neji 2 months ago
@declaration963 1. Perhaps this was initially true, but after 23 years of revelations and experience as a community leader it is unlikely he remained so. You like the Koran? The Iliad is much more exciting. 2. The statements concerning nature are as accurate as you would expect for a scholar of that time. 3. Muhammad predicted what exactly? 4. How would we demonstrate the Koran's unmatchableness? If you can't conceive of a means of falsifying your statement you should be suspicious of its truth.
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
The koran is very simple and repetitive. The embryology in it is false and has been proven so as have all of the other so called miracles. Bones don't form before flesh as it says in the koran. Basically it says the same thing over and over: "believe and you will be rewarded greatly, disbelieve and you will be punished horribly".
CMO999 2 months ago
@CMO999 can you explain more ?? where is the part you are talking about specificly what chapter and what sector please.
lo0lo0007 2 months ago in playlist Islamic Videos 2
@lo0lo0007 I could, but others have explained it way better than I could. Check out pzmyers and aronra's videos about it.
CMO999 2 months ago
@CMO999 I don't want to check other's videos I want to check Quraan cause I'm sure they read a tanslated version of quraan so a lot of meanings lost in translation,I'm an arab , Give me the specific chapter and sector so I read it myself and form my opinion depending on the actual Quraan (in arabic) not on a translated version ..
lo0lo0007 2 months ago
@lo0lo0007: How is it that the word of almighty god can get lost in translation?Or is it that the god doesnt value all the people the same,but only his chosen ones?
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer yes it can get lost on translation why it's simple
beacuse the translated version is written by a human, a human translated it so it could have some errors while the arabic version is came from God,God revealed the Qur'an to Muhammad peace be ubon him via the angel Gabriel in arabic language, then the followers of the prophet memorized it and wrote it word by word ,as it said in this video it's a mircale how people from any race can memorize the whole book perfectly :)
lo0lo0007 2 months ago
@lo0lo0007: Ok,but does that mean that god has a chosen race and thinks less of other people,because he chose one language over the others?Why didnt he make one prophet in each country?Or,written a book in such a way that it cannot get lost in translation.No human can do that,granted,but god isnt human.
And even if we disregard the language issue,why wasnt at least one prophet sent to the americas?Were all the people there considered to be not as worthy as euro-asia-africans?
DaemianLucifer 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer you asked many questions so my replay will be abit long sorry :)
A1 ,No not at all,There is a chosen language for Quraan but not a chosen people, God chose this lang for reasons related to the features of this language that distinguish it from others ,and other reasons related to the place which his message(islam) will start from ,if you want to know what exactly are the reasons you can find many videos about this issue.
lo0lo0007 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer A3, let me clear this, the translated versions of quraan are so many I'm not saying that all are wrongs,I'm saying that it could have some mistakes or falws depending on how good and honest the translator is ,there is a website has good translated versions I can recommend it to you if you want ..
lo0lo0007 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer
A2 A4,that doesn't make sense why for what ,logically if one succeed the message will be spread(an that’s what actually happened and happening) and people will be more unite one prophet one message despising all the differences worshipping one God, that’s why we feel equal.
lo0lo0007 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer Would Listen to what prophet mohammad PBUH said" All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action"
lo0lo0007 2 months ago
@DaemianLucifer Did you also know that the call of prayer(adhan) is in Arabic too whats the importance of that ?the answer is Unity , imagine if me)arab) ,Hispanic guy ,English guy, Japanese and Indian guy were in china for work and we are all muslims if the adhan was in Chinese lang how we will know this is the call of prayer O.O thats why adhan is in one language Arabic so anyone in anywhere even in the moon will know this is the call of prayer and gathered with other muslims to start praying
lo0lo0007 2 months ago