Pump 501 Lothian & Borders Fire & Rescue Service

[scotsfire]

you didnt manage to catch the HP turning out at any time

[Alan10018]

That is a cool siren!!! :D

[cabroyutubeado]

Two sirens, fantastic catch from Edimburg! Greetings from Chile!

[daddy2548]

wow!

two sirens!!

great vehicle!

[Wouter112]

Like the new pumpers!

[bigbadredsox]

Needs a Q!

[brandweermain]

Nice, nice car. I geabboneerd you, do you have for me?

[PoliceAmbulanceFire]

fantastic catch, tone tones sound great.

[dcatch1]

Unusual to get an old 2 tone on a 2009 truck!

[FIREengineMADnick]

Love it!!!! What a great siren as well!!!! Liked and faved

[ksb2050]

I'm not a fan of the European siren. Why do you guys over the pond use that one so much? Personal opinion is that it sounds lame and blends in with all the rest of the road noise.

[Someloke8895]

@ksb2050 We think the same about "Q" sirens. In fact I'd say we dislike Qs even more than you guys dislike two-tones.

Two tones are easier to hear at distance and generally you can tell what sort of emergency vehicle is coming up behind you.

[ksb2050]

@Someloke8895 Dislike Q's? That's crazy talk lol. To each their own I guess...

[Someloke8895]

@ksb2050 Haha, Well before 2 tones, we used bells. Whereas you guys used like mini air-raid sirens.

So I guess that's why, you used weeeeeeehooooooo, whereas we were, dring dring dring

[Rummeltobi]

@Someloke8895 False. Tests in germany showed that drivers respond earlier when there is an emergency vehicle which is driving with wail (+yelp). A Q and air horns are always better than two-tone.

[Someloke8895]

@Rummeltobi Except Germany uses exclusively Two tone sirens, so hearing something different would obviously get their attention more.

A mixture of Wail/Yelp/Hyperyelp/Two tone is the way to go.

[Kraakmo]

@Rummeltobi Source please? I would be happy to read that article (in German or English). The main advantage of two tones (that I can see) is how easy it is to determine their direction of travel (coming towards, or going away from).

[Rummeltobi]

@Kraakmo Did you think that the public & the press cares about sirens?!? wail & yelp are tested in several countries where 2-tone is the only legal siren (e.g.: Italy, France, Germany). The "testers" said that the drivers react earlier and faster. If you have the correct lightning package on emergency vehicles you would see them too.

If you want watch a video: /watch?v=wgtZtDoo0CQ

American emergency vehicles have the best lights & sirens, believe me ;)

[Kraakmo]

@Rummeltobi Ja ist es dem Publikum ganz wichtig, dass die Sirene effektive ist. Bei mir ist die Yelp/Wale/Q sehr laut (wie die Martinshorn), aber bis zu 50m, ist es mir schwer die Fahrrichtung zu bestimmen. Ja ich kenn das zu Einsatzfahrzeuge die Deutsche wie die Amerikaner wollen, aber nach meine Meinung ist die Martinshorn doch sicherer und mehr effektive.

[Kraakmo]

@Kraakmo Und ja, die Amerikaner geben mehrere Lichter, but im some cases, more lights tend to attract, rather than warn.. z.B. drivers will drive towards the lights (not paying attention) rather than drive away. Simple is always better...

[Rummeltobi]

@Kraakmo Please write it in english.. ;)

[04smallmj]

@Rummeltobi American emergency vehicle lighting is pretty good, but I don't like that they use a lot of red lights, and the lighting laws and regulations are very inconsistent... I don't really have much of an opinion on sirens though to be honest... I like powercall sirens, the Q is OK, I like the EQ2B, I like most yelps and wails and the hi-lo... Martin horns sound OK but they seem very effective... so yeah.. LOL

[Kraakmo]

@Rummeltobi Very interesting report.. I cant understand the two Sanitäter that they first interviewed, they speak like Bavarians!

However, is the problem that the signal is not loud enough, or the signal itself? Perhaps this is part of the debate as well. From my experience, it is the same in America, people become used to hearing sirens, they do not respond to it any more. Bring an american siren to Germany = more people moving over, bring a martinshorn to america = more people moving over!

[Arkadasch123]

@Someloke8895 you are so right mate!!! thx

[EnjoyFirefighting]

@ksb2050 it actually hardly blends with other city and traffic noise. And why we use so many european sirens? For the same reason why you in the US use american sirens.

[Rummeltobi]

@ksb2050 You have totally right, agreed! :)

[BlueLightVids]

Awesome, love it when both the tones are on together