John 1 says "The Word" was with God - and The Word WAS God. John 1 says The Word created EVERYTHING. Later in the same chapter JESUS is identified as The Word.
That makes TWO persons who are called "God", and TWO persons who are credited with creating us. We now have 2 of the 3 persons of the Trinitarian Godhead. I don't even have to "prove" the 3rd person of the Trinity. I've already proven there is more to God than just The Father.
@BingsTV Even bias-as-can-possibly-be trinitarian translated bible versions call the WORD OF LIFE(aka the "Word") an "it" in 1 John 1.Did you watch the video?God's word is God and God's spirit is God because God lives in his word and spirit.Thay both reveal him.Word is synonymous with plan or gospel and God's plans and gospel "became flesh" and "manifest" as Christ,of course.Do you think your bible is wrong in 1 John 1 to call the word of life an "it" before "it" manifest as Christ?
@howdytheresir: John 1 calls the Word - GOD. I dion't think my Bible is wrong. I just don't think you have a bloody clue what you're talking about. John 1 says the Logos was He NOT "It". "HE was with God in the Beginning". End of discussion.
@howdytheresir: I will respond to ONE of your questions.
QUESTION: "Did you know even trinitarian scholars have to admit John 1:1 is POETRY?:
ANSWER: Trinitarian scholars say that? Name ONE.
And since you're playing fast and loose with Definitions, permit me to do likewise: Merriam-Websters defines SCHOLAR as "a person who attends a school or studies under a teacher : pupil". trinitarian scholars have to admit John 1:1 is POETRY?
RE: "As a former JW,I can honestly say that if you can't empty yourself of all you've ever believed...God CANNOT fill you with spirit and truth and will allow you to remain in error".
Let's address that in light of your Point #4 "Did you know even trinitarian scholars have to admit ..." .
LOOK at what I found online: "However, even trinitarian scholars admit that this verse is spurious". Care to guess where I found it? JW-ARCHIVE - Yep, the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Empty yourself, indeed!!
@howdytheresir: You tried to pull one over on me, now, didn't you! But MY God is bigger than YOUR God - and he revealed to me where to go online to expose your fraud. You can't play games with the true and living God!
@BingsTV wait..I meant to say that hebrew and greek words are assigned genders..but that doesn't make them a male or a female person.Logos is a masculine word but the lexical definition is "a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea"..other defs. I've found are "plan","reason","declaration"..etc.Jesus was the plan,thoughts,and gospel(etc.) OF God manifest as flesh.
@BingsTV Why couldn't you answer my simple common sense questions?And where DID I say that?If you accuse,the least you can do is provide proof.You act as if clarification of a point is a cult tactic?Interesting.I can tell from your comments that it would be a waste of time to try to reason with you.You've bought propaganda against those who believe the BIBLE's creeds hook,line,and sinker.I can tell you also like to ridicule nontriniatrians like many of your predecessors.Take care.
Jesus is God. John 1:1-51 is John''s testimony of the divinity of Christ. Mathew 28:19 Gen 1:1, 26, 3:22, 11:7, 1John 5:6,7,8, 10-11, Isaiah 9:6, 7:14
@TheSunlitsky I want anyone who might see this to actually be able to follow the conversation here.Therefore,I won't be approving anymore of your comments,as you continue to go off topic more and more.Again,I already know the trinitarian "proof" texts.I'm not new to them.And bombarding me with them doesn't help your case a bit.
@TheSunlitsky you can stop flooding the comments now.We all know the trinitarian "proof" texts.Nothing new.You can't even answer who the One God is supposed to be in Malachi 2:10.Take care,again.
@TheSunlitsky If the holy spirit was a person who caused Mary's pregnancy then for the life of me can't figure out why Jesus didn't think of him as father?Come to think of it,Jesus never spoke to him at all!
@howdytheresir: Not true. Not even close. 1) After John baptized Jesus in the Jordan River, the Holy Spirit rested on Jesus in the form of a dove. 2) The BIBLE says Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit - for this to not be true, the BIBLE has to not be true. 3) Jesus spoke to Nicdemus about being Born Again by the Holy Spirit. 4) In the Upper Room, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as "The Comforter whom I shall send". You don't understand that there can be 3 persons - yet only ONE God.
@BingsTV Right.The holy spirit OF God overshadowed Mary.I shouldn't have to tell you that a dove isn't the third person of God.God uses HIS spirit to make us new.God comforts by HIS spirit.It gets sent and he is present in and by it.Easy concepts.Even though it's impossible to define precisely,I have 2 videos about the holy spirit that make an effort,based on scripture and reason .A word that can be translated as God's holy breath or wind doesn't imply "God's third person"..
@howdytheresir: Jesus in John 16:7> "If I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you" The Holy Spirit is not merely "God's breath" nor is the Holy Spirit a force. He is a person. Jesus says, "I will send HIM to you". Instead of trying to concoct "new revelations", wouldn't it be easier to just accept what the Bible says. Trusting in Judge Russell's "new revelation" is what got you into the JW's.
@BingsTV God is in his spirit comforting.In that sense,it IS God.Because it's God comforting by his spirit!Comforter is also a masculine gender term in greek,as Wisdom is a female gender word.Wisdom was translated as "she" for that reason.Comforter can be translated as "he" for that reason.God's spirit is compared to OUR spirits.
@BingsTV 1 Cor. 2:11:For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
Your spirit "knows" your thoughts.Does this make it a second person in you?If your spirit cries our,greives,(etc.),do you suddenly have a second person?If God's spirit is his third person and your spirit isn't a person separate from you,how could 1 Cor. possibly make such a comparison here?
@howdytheresir: Jesus also speaks of the Holy Spirit in Matthew 12:28. Since YOU claim Jesus NEVER spoke about the Holy Spirit - WHY on earth would you have ANY credibility for understanding the scriptures in ENGLISH, much less Hebrew?
@BingsTV Where did I say that?!What I meant was that he never spoke to the holy spirit person to person like he did to his own God.Common sense approach:
If someone has a God,that one is NOT God.If someone is the Son OF God,that One is NOT God.If someone is a man who is a servant of god is NOT God.This common sense approach has been abandoned in favor of some real mental metaphysical mathematical unbiblical gymnastics.
@TheSunlitsky It's Hebrew parallelism in Luke 1:35..ie..Restating what was just said.Saying the same thing twice,yes,defining the spirit!I can see that you're a die hard at this point,so I won't be wasting any more time here trying to reason.Take care and God bless!
@TheSunlitsky Because he's mighty.God,like Lord,doesn't always have to mean "the one and only true God of Deut. 6:4."Any lexicon can admit to this.Moses was called God,but you know he wasn't THE true God.
@TheSunlitsky For the 4th time,God accomplishes everything by his spirit,sometimes through others.God made everything by his word that became Christ.That word was never the second person of that same God.
@TheSunlitsky yes it does say the *father* created alone.
Mal. 2:10:Have we not all one Father? Did not one God create us?
God created in the flesh of Christ(knowing Jesus would redeem creation).It says all things in CHRIST,not "pre-existing second person of a trinity."In that word that became flesh.What typified & prefigured Christ is applied to Christ in the NT.
@TheSunlitsky You quoted a scripture that said Jesus is the father.(I thought the trinity denied this?)I don't deny he's a mighty God.I deny he's the second true God of a triune homouusios.
@TheSunlitsky You're being seriously inconsistent.You would have to admit we had grace and such before the ages,yet in the SAME line of thought can't admit Christ was " chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.".(1 Pet. 1:20).meaning he was ordained then manifest,like any word of God.Only he's the greatest revelation of God that ever was.Don't have the inclination to address all the preexistent "proofs" right now,though.
@TheSunlitsky This makes no sense because we were given something before the ages began yet Christ couldn't have been ordained the same way?!Was Christ in heaven before as flesh?Is that what you're suggesting?Truth is,the word was ALWAYS the flesh of Christ planned for the salvation of the world..but it didn't manifest till he was born as noted in Luke 1:35 of course.It was never the second person of a trinity.
@TheSunlitsky yes I did,in God's plans.Read up.In 1 tim. there he gave me grace and purpose before the ages began.So that's when I had it,no?If you KNOW that was in his plans only,why are you using a different interpretive method for what is said of Christ?Why can't it have been a plan for him too "before the ages"?Given him then,but not manifest till the proper time?Hmm..
@TheSunlitsky This,btw,is one of the plainest most obvious instances of trinitarian self deceit.Just because someone stands on a mountain and screams 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 1,that doesn't make it magically true.
@TheSunlitsky So now Jesus is the father in the trinity?Leaning toward oneness?I know why he is called father..not because he's God.Because he gave us life by his death.God can't die,obviously.
@TheSunlitsky Speaking of humans,we were made in the image of God.We aren't three people either.If you'd contemplated my last comment you would understand that when you lie to the spirit you DO lie to God because that's how he reaches mankind.Again,our spirits are compared to God's spirit explicitly.If someone grieves your spirit,doesn't mean you grew another person in your "being."Your spirit knows your thoughts.It must be another person of you,right?(1 cor. 2:11)
@TheSunlitsky Saying "in the beginning was the word" is somewhat synonymous to saying "in the beginning was the gospel."God is in his gospel.It reveals him.He IS his gospel like you are your word.What his word becomes reveals him.He spoke everything in Genesis into existence,and he planned Christ from the beginning and made him manifest at the right time.(Gal. 4:4)Simple stuff if you ALLOW yourself to think differently from your traditions for a while.
@TheSunlitsky Yes,God is in his word.In a poetic sense,the FATHER is his word.It reveals him.Do you not understand this concept?And yes,his word was manifest as flesh in Christ.No,I didn't deny any of this.IF John 1:1 said "in the beginning was the gospel"..would you think the gospel was a spirit creature?If so,why?If not,why do you think the word was?Word is synonymous with gospel among other things.Yes,Christ fulfilled the gospel of God in the flesh!
@TheSunlitsky The WORD was God.Even trinitarian scholars know John 1:1 is poetry.How was the "word" God?NOT as the Son of God is God,but as the *word* is God.Are you your word?In a poetic sense,yes!1 John 1 defines that word precisely for us.Even in trinitarian bias bibles it is called an IT there.God's plans to give life to the world(ie his "word of life" or "word") BECAME Christ.It wasn't a spirit before.Yes,you ARE reading "God the Son the spirit" into the text.Isn't there.
STOP! You are misreading Luke1:35 the child to be born will will be called "HOLY" referring to -the Son of God- being Holy!
1.YaHWeH is Holy
2.Christ is Holy
3.Holy Spirit is Holy
Agreed? Therefore,..
1.HOLY 2.HOLY 3.HOLY is the (1.ONE)~Lord God Almighty! (Rev4:8,Isaiah6)
How then do you explain John 20:28? Did Christ as a rabbi rebuke doubting Thomas for referring to Him as his Lord and GOD?? No! Instead Christ blesses those that can't see and yet believe. Amen.
@THEBEREANZ Nope,won't stop.lol..I can't believe(honestly)that you think Christ being holy means God has to be three people.The bible says even we must be holy.God is said to be holy three times because numbers in the bible symbolize certain things,and if I'm not mistaken three symbolizes completeness.Nothing to do with being three people!Also,if being called "God means someone IS a member of God's "homoousios",then shall we add Moses and the others?
@THEBEREANZ And besides all that,you should check out thetrinitydelusion's and Abrahamicmovement's thoughts on John 20:28.They make some great points that go utterly ignored by trinitarians.Wonder why?
@TheSunlitsky In the beginning was the WORD that manifest as Christ.NOT the Son of God who manifest as the flesh Son of God,2nd person of the trinity.That has to be read INTO the texts.I have a whole playlist on it.If you lie to God's spirit you DO lie to God.Just like if your spirit is in distress,YOU'RE in distress.God reaches us by means of his spirit.When your spirit cries out,you know very well you don't have a second person that does.
Everyone suffering from trinitaritis, there are countless versions of trinity, if anyone speaks against one form of trinity, they recognise it is not what they follow, and so blaim that, it is a circle and Jesus and God are in the middle, patiently waiting for people to repent from this awfull doctrine. Jesus is The Son of God, and flesh and blood did not reveil that.
@TheIsmaelIsaac God lastly spoke to us through his Son,not Mohammed.Yahweh is the Only True God and Christ is the inimitably exalted Son and Servant of Yah.
see my brother, we are still in agreement Jesus is Yahweh's word and the inimitable servant Yahweh.... and please do consider that the word Yahweh is coded word ..
infact in Aramiac the langauge jesus (Yeshoua) spoke .. Jesus when was put in the cross called Yahweh with his real name Elahi Elahi lema sebaqtani (my God my God why haveyou forsaken me)
But anyways lets leave it alone lets get back to glorifying god and doing his will instead of wasting time arguing about doctrines; alot of people need to know the good news
of course he doesn't give his glory to others but we all now he doesn't and my blood boils when they tell me i serve more than one god the father, son and the holy spirit are one its easy to offend me and call me a liar but if we "trinitarians" were wrong then god would surely show us we are.
@joelh150 What does he have to say?Could Jesus have said that his father was the Only True God and identified that One God as a "he",someone other than himself?Would that have helped?Well,he did.
Isaiah 42:8 I am Jehovah, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.
Isaiah 48:11 For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another.
Note: God does not share His glory with anyone.
Psalm 24:9-10 Lift up your heads, O you gates! Lift up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD
@Lengen1234567890 John 17:22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one
Look at the context in Isaiah.It's important in order to get the right idea about what God's saying ,the historical context..etc.Again,we have a *given* glory that is also *given* to the disciples.No one gives God a thing.You should watch my "Trinitarian reasoning is dangerous" video.Again,please answer the questions in the video or take this to pm because we're off topic here.
@Lengen1234567890 Please stop leaving disrespectful and off topic comments.Thanks.I don't approve comments with insults and only go so far in discussing off topic(of the actual video's content) comments.So be well and God bless.
@Lengen1234567890 I'm trying to reason with you with very simple ideas.I don't think it's working but I will try again.If someone is MADE Lord,GIVEN all he has,and worships God,then that one ISN'T God.If someone is *made*(every word means something,no?)Lord,that doesn't mean he has to be the same entity he called "the ONLY true God"..it means he was GIVEN(again) authority BY the ONE God of the Shema.(Deut. 6:4,again)
@Lengen1234567890 unless you're willing to address the specific questions in this video,then I'd rather you pm me with dialogue that goes way off topic from the specific questions in the video.
A king puts a prince in charge ,acting as king in his steed.
The kings last decree is for His faithful subjects is to Honor the new King .
Yet those who love the old King refuse to bow to the new King.
When an appeal for mercy (for all are sinners) is made to the old king do you think the New King will be happy with you? Or the old King happy you disobeyed his last commands?
Now I am no ones judge but since I trust YHWH and his sovereignty I trust Jis choice for rule too. Jesus is th
@Lengen1234567890 I'm not sure what your point is.You seem to be arguing my case.IF God puts someone in charge..if someone represents him to mankind..if he makes someone king,then absolutely..honor,praise,and glory to that one because it's God's will.In 1 Chron. 29:20,the king is worshipped right along with God.No one would dare ever say that king IS God.
And skeptics who knew who he was and what he has done. Then the apostles who went boldly teaching the good news of Jesus Christ , his resurrection , his Lordship and Salvation to the point of martyrdom .
@Lengen1234567890 Thanks, I've done that plenty and promise to continue.I would like to know that if Jesus's words about his own inferiority to and reliance upon the one he said was the ONLY God(excluding himself from also being that one God)where do I turn?Your reasoning?Perhaps some pastor's?Councils of men and creeds?I'd rather listen unashamedly to every word from his mouth since he was God's word of truth to mankind.God's word of life to mankind made flesh.What he says is everything to me.
@Lengen1234567890 What I've learned as a former Jehovah's Witness,and what "orthodoxy" would do well to learn as well by "praying for understanding" is that when men have to qualify almost everything Jesus says every where they turn to in scripture,there is no doubt a problem with the doctrines they have inherited or been fed.If they had truly been fed those doctrines from scripture,then there'd be no need to qualify everything Jesus said to make what he said "fit" their own ideas
Here is the mystery, we know there is One God , that we agree.
He is revealed as YHWH in OT along with other names of description such as Rock, Savior,Creator etc agreed?
Jesus comes to earth, does miracles and lives a sinless life, talks on His own authority, accepts worship and refers to himself as Daniels prophetic Son of Man.he fulfilled OT prophecy with mathematical impossibilities, was killed as a criminal, buried and rose from the dead to appear bodily in front of hundreds of believers a
@Lengen1234567890 Dan 7:13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power
Christ is NOT the Ancient of Days(the only true God) here but had to be "given" everything he has from that One.Jesus is the "holy servant"(Acts 4:30) of the Shema's One God.(Deut. 6:4)
First define what you mean by tripersonal? Clearly the bible shows God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. It sounds like you are describing modalism or tritheism.
@Lengen1234567890 by tripersonal I mean God as three persons,each 100 percent God.(amazingly enough,but then again,I don't adhere to such a belief)..The bible describes the Only True God(Jn. 17:3),his Christ and Son who HAS his *father* AS his own ONE God,and then the spirit of God that he gives Christ without measure.If you spoke of the spirit of Elijah,you would know very well that you weren't speaking of a separate person OF Elijah.
@Lengen1234567890 The reason the spirit is identified with God is because when he speaks to us,when he lives in us,etc..he does so BY his own spirit,that he gives in measures to believers.I have 2 videos on the holy spirit.As far as Christ being called God(IF he is..certainly debatable),saying that means he is a person of the only true God is quite the leap considering "God" in Hebrew times could also mean on with might and authority or someone representing God.Moses was called God.
@Lengen1234567890 Do you add Moses to the substance of God because he's called "elohim"?I know Christ is the greater Moses.STILL under the Shema's God though.1 Cor. 11:3,15:27,28
God is Love don't you agree? Then logically there needs to be someone to love and since God doesn't 'need' anything acts17: 24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.
So tell me how God can be Love with no one to Love? Because he is not alone from eternity
@Lengen1234567890 Unless you can find a scripture that says God cannot be Love without other persons in his "being" then what you're saying is nothing but a manmade argument.Maybe God created BECAUSE He's love.I am quite certain you heard this argument from men trying to justify their belief with extrabiblical specious reasoning and not from the bible.There is not one single time "God" is used in the bible where it means "tripersonal being."
@joelh150 Right.. that's because they all work together.We have a Father,his Son he sent for the life of the world,and the holy spirit of God that he gives Christ without measure.Christ,as mediator(as the one *given* all power) dispenses that same spirit that was given him to us.So that we may all be one just as he and his father are one.So apparently the way in which they are "one" is not as the same entity.
Acts (28:25-27) And when they did not agree with one another, they began leaving after Paul had spoken one parting word, "The Holy Spirit rightly spoke through Isaiah the prophet to your fathers,
Isaiah (6:8-10) Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
This makes The Holy Spirit God, Isaiah said it was God speaking, Paul refering to it says it is the Holy Spirit.
@epidome God speaks through his spirit,of course.God IS a Holy spirit and he HAS a holy spirit.Therefore when the holy spirit speaks,it IS God talking.We are made in God's image and we have spirits too.Only ours aren't holy like God's.The spirit of Elijah is not a person in the being of Elijah.
What do you do with the Royal Us everwhere it appears in the old testament. Everytime God speaks in the first person it is in the plural. Genesis (1:26). Genesis (3:22), Genesis (11:7), Isaiah (6:8). You seem to assume Trinitarians believe in an eternal sonship, this isn't true. Jesus the man began in space and time but the Word did not, the Word which is God became flesh in the man Jesus.
@epidome I'm not dogmatic about any particular view of Gen 1:26 since there are a few I find plausible.Only one if which,from even the NIV trinitarian bias commentary if I'm not mistaken(forgive me if I am) is that God was speaking to his heavenly court.If personal pronouns prove something,then the singular ones used thousands of times should tell us all something.I think it's unwarranted to think God is speaking to two people who also exist as the same God he is in Gen. 1:26.
@epidome And I have definitely heard trinitarians speak of an eternal sonship.Perhaps there are differing views within your own community just like there is with almost every(if not every) single supposed "proof text?"
I really appriciate your video. May God bless you. Praise the Lord! I see more & more that we do not have to be on the defensive, for the Word of God is clearly on our side. It becomes more & more clear that these people are the ones who "went out from us." We need, therefore, to be on the offensive & expose this doctrine & the people behind it as nothing short of the Spirit of antichrist. Keep it up my dear sister.
@Paulsministry Thank you Paul for your encouragement.I have been watching your videos for a month or so now and really appreciate your zeal and determination to get this message out there.It's fantastic to see others out there who have broken free from vehement deceptions and gone on to be such thankful advocates for truth.Keep it up and yes..Praise the Lord we've been set free!May he remove that veil on others' eyes as well.May God continue to bless you.
Very good & inspiring thoughts you are sharing here. If any trinitarians after watching this, can stll they continue to hold that apostate doctrine? I must confess once again, the spirit of blindess came over them as it did to Israelites in a different form. At that time Israelites did not have any problem in believing that Jesus as man, but could not accept Jesus as the Son of God, but now most of the Christians believe that Jesus as Son of God but not as Son of man.
@shibakim Thank you so much.Always such an encouragement(and even a relief!lol) to find those like minded out there who understand what's going on.People were ANGRY at Yahushua for being the unique Son of man with God's authority in him!They couldn't fathom it then and they still can't without inventing lies to make it more palatable to them.Not that everyone's "inventing lies."Some of simply deceived,which is an insidious and scary place to be.Let's keep praying and spreading truth !
John 1 says "The Word" was with God - and The Word WAS God. John 1 says The Word created EVERYTHING. Later in the same chapter JESUS is identified as The Word.
That makes TWO persons who are called "God", and TWO persons who are credited with creating us. We now have 2 of the 3 persons of the Trinitarian Godhead. I don't even have to "prove" the 3rd person of the Trinity. I've already proven there is more to God than just The Father.
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV Even bias-as-can-possibly-be trinitarian translated bible versions call the WORD OF LIFE(aka the "Word") an "it" in 1 John 1.Did you watch the video?God's word is God and God's spirit is God because God lives in his word and spirit.Thay both reveal him.Word is synonymous with plan or gospel and God's plans and gospel "became flesh" and "manifest" as Christ,of course.Do you think your bible is wrong in 1 John 1 to call the word of life an "it" before "it" manifest as Christ?
howdytheresir 2 weeks ago
@howdytheresir: John 1 calls the Word - GOD. I dion't think my Bible is wrong. I just don't think you have a bloody clue what you're talking about. John 1 says the Logos was He NOT "It". "HE was with God in the Beginning". End of discussion.
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV Way to avoid my questions.I have four,and I'll try again.
1.Are ALL the bias-as-can-be trinitarian bible translations dead wrong for calling the "word of life" an "it" before it manifest in 1 John 1:2?
2.Isn't the "word of life" from 1 John the SAME "word" that's in John 1?
3.Are you your word,poetically speaking?
4.Did you know even trinitarian scholars have to admit John 1:1 is POETRY?Do you agree?
howdytheresir 2 weeks ago
@howdytheresir: I will respond to ONE of your questions.
QUESTION: "Did you know even trinitarian scholars have to admit John 1:1 is POETRY?:
ANSWER: Trinitarian scholars say that? Name ONE.
And since you're playing fast and loose with Definitions, permit me to do likewise: Merriam-Websters defines SCHOLAR as "a person who attends a school or studies under a teacher : pupil". trinitarian scholars have to admit John 1:1 is POETRY?
MORE . . .
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV 1 of my questions?How convenient for you!You'd rather just spew and insult than think and answer.
howdytheresir 1 week ago
RE: "As a former JW,I can honestly say that if you can't empty yourself of all you've ever believed...God CANNOT fill you with spirit and truth and will allow you to remain in error".
Let's address that in light of your Point #4 "Did you know even trinitarian scholars have to admit ..." .
LOOK at what I found online: "However, even trinitarian scholars admit that this verse is spurious". Care to guess where I found it? JW-ARCHIVE - Yep, the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Empty yourself, indeed!!
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@howdytheresir: You tried to pull one over on me, now, didn't you! But MY God is bigger than YOUR God - and he revealed to me where to go online to expose your fraud. You can't play games with the true and living God!
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV wait..I meant to say that hebrew and greek words are assigned genders..but that doesn't make them a male or a female person.Logos is a masculine word but the lexical definition is "a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea"..other defs. I've found are "plan","reason","declaration"..etc.Jesus was the plan,thoughts,and gospel(etc.) OF God manifest as flesh.
howdytheresir 2 weeks ago
@howdytheresir: RE: "wait..I meant to say that ...", "Where did I say that? What I meant was that...".
You trip over yourself more than Mitt Romney - and he's a cult member, too. Why don't you just surrender? God has you outnumbered.
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV Why couldn't you answer my simple common sense questions?And where DID I say that?If you accuse,the least you can do is provide proof.You act as if clarification of a point is a cult tactic?Interesting.I can tell from your comments that it would be a waste of time to try to reason with you.You've bought propaganda against those who believe the BIBLE's creeds hook,line,and sinker.I can tell you also like to ridicule nontriniatrians like many of your predecessors.Take care.
howdytheresir 1 week ago
Jesus is God. John 1:1-51 is John''s testimony of the divinity of Christ. Mathew 28:19 Gen 1:1, 26, 3:22, 11:7, 1John 5:6,7,8, 10-11, Isaiah 9:6, 7:14
HS Gen 1:2, 2 Chronicals 5:13,14
Jesus Gen 1:3,6,9,11,14, 20, 24,
suggesttwo 3 weeks ago
@TheSunlitsky I want anyone who might see this to actually be able to follow the conversation here.Therefore,I won't be approving anymore of your comments,as you continue to go off topic more and more.Again,I already know the trinitarian "proof" texts.I'm not new to them.And bombarding me with them doesn't help your case a bit.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky you can stop flooding the comments now.We all know the trinitarian "proof" texts.Nothing new.You can't even answer who the One God is supposed to be in Malachi 2:10.Take care,again.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky If the holy spirit was a person who caused Mary's pregnancy then for the life of me can't figure out why Jesus didn't think of him as father?Come to think of it,Jesus never spoke to him at all!
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@howdytheresir: Not true. Not even close. 1) After John baptized Jesus in the Jordan River, the Holy Spirit rested on Jesus in the form of a dove. 2) The BIBLE says Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit - for this to not be true, the BIBLE has to not be true. 3) Jesus spoke to Nicdemus about being Born Again by the Holy Spirit. 4) In the Upper Room, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as "The Comforter whom I shall send". You don't understand that there can be 3 persons - yet only ONE God.
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV Right.The holy spirit OF God overshadowed Mary.I shouldn't have to tell you that a dove isn't the third person of God.God uses HIS spirit to make us new.God comforts by HIS spirit.It gets sent and he is present in and by it.Easy concepts.Even though it's impossible to define precisely,I have 2 videos about the holy spirit that make an effort,based on scripture and reason .A word that can be translated as God's holy breath or wind doesn't imply "God's third person"..
howdytheresir 2 weeks ago
@howdytheresir: Jesus in John 16:7> "If I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you" The Holy Spirit is not merely "God's breath" nor is the Holy Spirit a force. He is a person. Jesus says, "I will send HIM to you". Instead of trying to concoct "new revelations", wouldn't it be easier to just accept what the Bible says. Trusting in Judge Russell's "new revelation" is what got you into the JW's.
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV God is in his spirit comforting.In that sense,it IS God.Because it's God comforting by his spirit!Comforter is also a masculine gender term in greek,as Wisdom is a female gender word.Wisdom was translated as "she" for that reason.Comforter can be translated as "he" for that reason.God's spirit is compared to OUR spirits.
howdytheresir 1 week ago
@BingsTV 1 Cor. 2:11:For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
Your spirit "knows" your thoughts.Does this make it a second person in you?If your spirit cries our,greives,(etc.),do you suddenly have a second person?If God's spirit is his third person and your spirit isn't a person separate from you,how could 1 Cor. possibly make such a comparison here?
howdytheresir 1 week ago
@howdytheresir: Jesus also speaks of the Holy Spirit in Matthew 12:28. Since YOU claim Jesus NEVER spoke about the Holy Spirit - WHY on earth would you have ANY credibility for understanding the scriptures in ENGLISH, much less Hebrew?
Have you the moral integrity to post this?
BingsTV 2 weeks ago
@BingsTV Where did I say that?!What I meant was that he never spoke to the holy spirit person to person like he did to his own God.Common sense approach:
If someone has a God,that one is NOT God.If someone is the Son OF God,that One is NOT God.If someone is a man who is a servant of god is NOT God.This common sense approach has been abandoned in favor of some real mental metaphysical mathematical unbiblical gymnastics.
howdytheresir 2 weeks ago
@TheSunlitsky It's Hebrew parallelism in Luke 1:35..ie..Restating what was just said.Saying the same thing twice,yes,defining the spirit!I can see that you're a die hard at this point,so I won't be wasting any more time here trying to reason.Take care and God bless!
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky Because he's mighty.God,like Lord,doesn't always have to mean "the one and only true God of Deut. 6:4."Any lexicon can admit to this.Moses was called God,but you know he wasn't THE true God.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky For the 4th time,God accomplishes everything by his spirit,sometimes through others.God made everything by his word that became Christ.That word was never the second person of that same God.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky According to Malachi 2:10 ,WHO is the "One God" who created us?Do you think this is the same "One God" of Deut. 6:4?
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky yes it does say the *father* created alone.
Mal. 2:10:Have we not all one Father? Did not one God create us?
God created in the flesh of Christ(knowing Jesus would redeem creation).It says all things in CHRIST,not "pre-existing second person of a trinity."In that word that became flesh.What typified & prefigured Christ is applied to Christ in the NT.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky You quoted a scripture that said Jesus is the father.(I thought the trinity denied this?)I don't deny he's a mighty God.I deny he's the second true God of a triune homouusios.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky You're being seriously inconsistent.You would have to admit we had grace and such before the ages,yet in the SAME line of thought can't admit Christ was " chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.".(1 Pet. 1:20).meaning he was ordained then manifest,like any word of God.Only he's the greatest revelation of God that ever was.Don't have the inclination to address all the preexistent "proofs" right now,though.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky This makes no sense because we were given something before the ages began yet Christ couldn't have been ordained the same way?!Was Christ in heaven before as flesh?Is that what you're suggesting?Truth is,the word was ALWAYS the flesh of Christ planned for the salvation of the world..but it didn't manifest till he was born as noted in Luke 1:35 of course.It was never the second person of a trinity.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky yes I did,in God's plans.Read up.In 1 tim. there he gave me grace and purpose before the ages began.So that's when I had it,no?If you KNOW that was in his plans only,why are you using a different interpretive method for what is said of Christ?Why can't it have been a plan for him too "before the ages"?Given him then,but not manifest till the proper time?Hmm..
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky This,btw,is one of the plainest most obvious instances of trinitarian self deceit.Just because someone stands on a mountain and screams 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals 1,that doesn't make it magically true.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky So now Jesus is the father in the trinity?Leaning toward oneness?I know why he is called father..not because he's God.Because he gave us life by his death.God can't die,obviously.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky God speaks by his spirit,sometimes through others.Been over this.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky Actually,yes.There is a blatant contradiction because when you count three people you don't get one.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky Speaking of humans,we were made in the image of God.We aren't three people either.If you'd contemplated my last comment you would understand that when you lie to the spirit you DO lie to God because that's how he reaches mankind.Again,our spirits are compared to God's spirit explicitly.If someone grieves your spirit,doesn't mean you grew another person in your "being."Your spirit knows your thoughts.It must be another person of you,right?(1 cor. 2:11)
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky Saying "in the beginning was the word" is somewhat synonymous to saying "in the beginning was the gospel."God is in his gospel.It reveals him.He IS his gospel like you are your word.What his word becomes reveals him.He spoke everything in Genesis into existence,and he planned Christ from the beginning and made him manifest at the right time.(Gal. 4:4)Simple stuff if you ALLOW yourself to think differently from your traditions for a while.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky Yes,God is in his word.In a poetic sense,the FATHER is his word.It reveals him.Do you not understand this concept?And yes,his word was manifest as flesh in Christ.No,I didn't deny any of this.IF John 1:1 said "in the beginning was the gospel"..would you think the gospel was a spirit creature?If so,why?If not,why do you think the word was?Word is synonymous with gospel among other things.Yes,Christ fulfilled the gospel of God in the flesh!
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky The WORD was God.Even trinitarian scholars know John 1:1 is poetry.How was the "word" God?NOT as the Son of God is God,but as the *word* is God.Are you your word?In a poetic sense,yes!1 John 1 defines that word precisely for us.Even in trinitarian bias bibles it is called an IT there.God's plans to give life to the world(ie his "word of life" or "word") BECAME Christ.It wasn't a spirit before.Yes,you ARE reading "God the Son the spirit" into the text.Isn't there.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@howdie...
STOP! You are misreading Luke1:35 the child to be born will will be called "HOLY" referring to -the Son of God- being Holy!
1.YaHWeH is Holy
2.Christ is Holy
3.Holy Spirit is Holy
Agreed? Therefore,..
1.HOLY 2.HOLY 3.HOLY is the (1.ONE)~Lord God Almighty! (Rev4:8,Isaiah6)
How then do you explain John 20:28? Did Christ as a rabbi rebuke doubting Thomas for referring to Him as his Lord and GOD?? No! Instead Christ blesses those that can't see and yet believe. Amen.
THEBEREANZ 1 month ago
@THEBEREANZ Nope,won't stop.lol..I can't believe(honestly)that you think Christ being holy means God has to be three people.The bible says even we must be holy.God is said to be holy three times because numbers in the bible symbolize certain things,and if I'm not mistaken three symbolizes completeness.Nothing to do with being three people!Also,if being called "God means someone IS a member of God's "homoousios",then shall we add Moses and the others?
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@THEBEREANZ And besides all that,you should check out thetrinitydelusion's and Abrahamicmovement's thoughts on John 20:28.They make some great points that go utterly ignored by trinitarians.Wonder why?
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky Care to address that actual content in the video?
howdytheresir 1 month ago
@TheSunlitsky In the beginning was the WORD that manifest as Christ.NOT the Son of God who manifest as the flesh Son of God,2nd person of the trinity.That has to be read INTO the texts.I have a whole playlist on it.If you lie to God's spirit you DO lie to God.Just like if your spirit is in distress,YOU'RE in distress.God reaches us by means of his spirit.When your spirit cries out,you know very well you don't have a second person that does.
howdytheresir 1 month ago
Everyone suffering from trinitaritis, there are countless versions of trinity, if anyone speaks against one form of trinity, they recognise it is not what they follow, and so blaim that, it is a circle and Jesus and God are in the middle, patiently waiting for people to repent from this awfull doctrine. Jesus is The Son of God, and flesh and blood did not reveil that.
MrTruth111 1 month ago
Thanks to you sister,,,, I do fully agree with you ... and I strongly beleive that you are not far far from the kingdom of Allah.
There is no god but Allah and I witness that Abraham, Ismael, Isaac ,David, Solomon, Jonah, Aaron ,Jesus moses, Mohammad his messengers.
TheIsmaelIsaac 2 months ago
@TheIsmaelIsaac God lastly spoke to us through his Son,not Mohammed.Yahweh is the Only True God and Christ is the inimitably exalted Son and Servant of Yah.
howdytheresir 2 months ago
@howdytheresir
see my brother, we are still in agreement Jesus is Yahweh's word and the inimitable servant Yahweh.... and please do consider that the word Yahweh is coded word ..
infact in Aramiac the langauge jesus (Yeshoua) spoke .. Jesus when was put in the cross called Yahweh with his real name Elahi Elahi lema sebaqtani (my God my God why haveyou forsaken me)
TheIsmaelIsaac 2 months ago
@TheIsmaelIsaac If you call me a "brother",then you haven't watched this video.lol.I am not in agreement with Muslims,no.
howdytheresir 2 months ago
@howdytheresir
lol ,, my brother I watched the video to the fullest and really enjoyed it ..
we are all one family .. that's why I called you brother .
peace be upon you and your loved ones.
TheIsmaelIsaac 2 months ago
But anyways lets leave it alone lets get back to glorifying god and doing his will instead of wasting time arguing about doctrines; alot of people need to know the good news
joelh150 4 months ago
@joelh150 What?People don't need to understand Deut. 6:4 and who Messiah is?That's insignificant?
howdytheresir 4 months ago
of course he doesn't give his glory to others but we all now he doesn't and my blood boils when they tell me i serve more than one god the father, son and the holy spirit are one its easy to offend me and call me a liar but if we "trinitarians" were wrong then god would surely show us we are.
joelh150 4 months ago
@joelh150 What does he have to say?Could Jesus have said that his father was the Only True God and identified that One God as a "he",someone other than himself?Would that have helped?Well,he did.
howdytheresir 2 months ago
I would agree but...
THE GLORY OF GOD
Isaiah 42:8 I am Jehovah, that is My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.
Isaiah 48:11 For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; For how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another.
Note: God does not share His glory with anyone.
Psalm 24:9-10 Lift up your heads, O you gates! Lift up, you everlasting doors! And the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 John 17:22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one
Look at the context in Isaiah.It's important in order to get the right idea about what God's saying ,the historical context..etc.Again,we have a *given* glory that is also *given* to the disciples.No one gives God a thing.You should watch my "Trinitarian reasoning is dangerous" video.Again,please answer the questions in the video or take this to pm because we're off topic here.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 Please stop leaving disrespectful and off topic comments.Thanks.I don't approve comments with insults and only go so far in discussing off topic(of the actual video's content) comments.So be well and God bless.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
You are emphasizing the wrong word in acts2:36 God 'made' a LORD and SAVIOR not a creature.
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 I'm trying to reason with you with very simple ideas.I don't think it's working but I will try again.If someone is MADE Lord,GIVEN all he has,and worships God,then that one ISN'T God.If someone is *made*(every word means something,no?)Lord,that doesn't mean he has to be the same entity he called "the ONLY true God"..it means he was GIVEN(again) authority BY the ONE God of the Shema.(Deut. 6:4,again)
howdytheresir 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 unless you're willing to address the specific questions in this video,then I'd rather you pm me with dialogue that goes way off topic from the specific questions in the video.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
Analogy
A king puts a prince in charge ,acting as king in his steed.
The kings last decree is for His faithful subjects is to Honor the new King .
Yet those who love the old King refuse to bow to the new King.
When an appeal for mercy (for all are sinners) is made to the old king do you think the New King will be happy with you? Or the old King happy you disobeyed his last commands?
Now I am no ones judge but since I trust YHWH and his sovereignty I trust Jis choice for rule too. Jesus is th
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 I'm not sure what your point is.You seem to be arguing my case.IF God puts someone in charge..if someone represents him to mankind..if he makes someone king,then absolutely..honor,praise,and glory to that one because it's God's will.In 1 Chron. 29:20,the king is worshipped right along with God.No one would dare ever say that king IS God.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
Acts 2:36:God has *made* this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 2 22 Jesus was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you *through* him, as you yourselves know.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
Con't
And skeptics who knew who he was and what he has done. Then the apostles who went boldly teaching the good news of Jesus Christ , his resurrection , his Lordship and Salvation to the point of martyrdom .
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
Pray for understanding
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 Thanks, I've done that plenty and promise to continue.I would like to know that if Jesus's words about his own inferiority to and reliance upon the one he said was the ONLY God(excluding himself from also being that one God)where do I turn?Your reasoning?Perhaps some pastor's?Councils of men and creeds?I'd rather listen unashamedly to every word from his mouth since he was God's word of truth to mankind.God's word of life to mankind made flesh.What he says is everything to me.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 What I've learned as a former Jehovah's Witness,and what "orthodoxy" would do well to learn as well by "praying for understanding" is that when men have to qualify almost everything Jesus says every where they turn to in scripture,there is no doubt a problem with the doctrines they have inherited or been fed.If they had truly been fed those doctrines from scripture,then there'd be no need to qualify everything Jesus said to make what he said "fit" their own ideas
howdytheresir 5 months ago
Here is the mystery, we know there is One God , that we agree.
He is revealed as YHWH in OT along with other names of description such as Rock, Savior,Creator etc agreed?
Jesus comes to earth, does miracles and lives a sinless life, talks on His own authority, accepts worship and refers to himself as Daniels prophetic Son of Man.he fulfilled OT prophecy with mathematical impossibilities, was killed as a criminal, buried and rose from the dead to appear bodily in front of hundreds of believers a
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 Dan 7:13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power
Christ is NOT the Ancient of Days(the only true God) here but had to be "given" everything he has from that One.Jesus is the "holy servant"(Acts 4:30) of the Shema's One God.(Deut. 6:4)
howdytheresir 5 months ago
First define what you mean by tripersonal? Clearly the bible shows God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. It sounds like you are describing modalism or tritheism.
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 by tripersonal I mean God as three persons,each 100 percent God.(amazingly enough,but then again,I don't adhere to such a belief)..The bible describes the Only True God(Jn. 17:3),his Christ and Son who HAS his *father* AS his own ONE God,and then the spirit of God that he gives Christ without measure.If you spoke of the spirit of Elijah,you would know very well that you weren't speaking of a separate person OF Elijah.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 The reason the spirit is identified with God is because when he speaks to us,when he lives in us,etc..he does so BY his own spirit,that he gives in measures to believers.I have 2 videos on the holy spirit.As far as Christ being called God(IF he is..certainly debatable),saying that means he is a person of the only true God is quite the leap considering "God" in Hebrew times could also mean on with might and authority or someone representing God.Moses was called God.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 Do you add Moses to the substance of God because he's called "elohim"?I know Christ is the greater Moses.STILL under the Shema's God though.1 Cor. 11:3,15:27,28
howdytheresir 5 months ago
Howdysiris,
God is Love don't you agree? Then logically there needs to be someone to love and since God doesn't 'need' anything acts17: 24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.
So tell me how God can be Love with no one to Love? Because he is not alone from eternity
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 Unless you can find a scripture that says God cannot be Love without other persons in his "being" then what you're saying is nothing but a manmade argument.Maybe God created BECAUSE He's love.I am quite certain you heard this argument from men trying to justify their belief with extrabiblical specious reasoning and not from the bible.There is not one single time "God" is used in the bible where it means "tripersonal being."
howdytheresir 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 good scriptures.Maybe you'd be willing to answer question number two in this video?
howdytheresir 5 months ago
In order to Love you need the Lover(Father) the loved( Son) and the interaction between the two (Spirit) as God is Love,
Lengen1234567890 5 months ago
@Lengen1234567890 God IS love.It doesn't say anywhere in scripture that he has to be 3 people before he COULD be love.
howdytheresir 5 months ago
you should go make supper for your husband and learn in submission!!.
salkickboxer 6 months ago
@salkickboxer Thanks for the advice.
howdytheresir 6 months ago
there is no more than one god we believe in christ and he is one but jesus multiple times addresses both the father and the holy spirit and him self
joelh150 6 months ago
@joelh150 Right.. that's because they all work together.We have a Father,his Son he sent for the life of the world,and the holy spirit of God that he gives Christ without measure.Christ,as mediator(as the one *given* all power) dispenses that same spirit that was given him to us.So that we may all be one just as he and his father are one.So apparently the way in which they are "one" is not as the same entity.
howdytheresir 6 months ago
Acts (28:25-27) And when they did not agree with one another, they began leaving after Paul had spoken one parting word, "The Holy Spirit rightly spoke through Isaiah the prophet to your fathers,
Isaiah (6:8-10) Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
This makes The Holy Spirit God, Isaiah said it was God speaking, Paul refering to it says it is the Holy Spirit.
epidome 10 months ago
@epidome God speaks through his spirit,of course.God IS a Holy spirit and he HAS a holy spirit.Therefore when the holy spirit speaks,it IS God talking.We are made in God's image and we have spirits too.Only ours aren't holy like God's.The spirit of Elijah is not a person in the being of Elijah.
howdytheresir 10 months ago
What do you do with the Royal Us everwhere it appears in the old testament. Everytime God speaks in the first person it is in the plural. Genesis (1:26). Genesis (3:22), Genesis (11:7), Isaiah (6:8). You seem to assume Trinitarians believe in an eternal sonship, this isn't true. Jesus the man began in space and time but the Word did not, the Word which is God became flesh in the man Jesus.
epidome 10 months ago
@epidome I'm not dogmatic about any particular view of Gen 1:26 since there are a few I find plausible.Only one if which,from even the NIV trinitarian bias commentary if I'm not mistaken(forgive me if I am) is that God was speaking to his heavenly court.If personal pronouns prove something,then the singular ones used thousands of times should tell us all something.I think it's unwarranted to think God is speaking to two people who also exist as the same God he is in Gen. 1:26.
howdytheresir 10 months ago
@epidome And I have definitely heard trinitarians speak of an eternal sonship.Perhaps there are differing views within your own community just like there is with almost every(if not every) single supposed "proof text?"
howdytheresir 10 months ago
BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS I AM.
Thank you have a nice day.
DallasTheGreat28 1 year ago
@DallasTheGreat28 Oh wow!I'm so glad you reminded me John 8:58 exists in this world.I have a video on that too.:)..Thank you as well.
howdytheresir 1 year ago
Dear sister,
I really appriciate your video. May God bless you. Praise the Lord! I see more & more that we do not have to be on the defensive, for the Word of God is clearly on our side. It becomes more & more clear that these people are the ones who "went out from us." We need, therefore, to be on the offensive & expose this doctrine & the people behind it as nothing short of the Spirit of antichrist. Keep it up my dear sister.
Paulsministry 1 year ago
@Paulsministry Thank you Paul for your encouragement.I have been watching your videos for a month or so now and really appreciate your zeal and determination to get this message out there.It's fantastic to see others out there who have broken free from vehement deceptions and gone on to be such thankful advocates for truth.Keep it up and yes..Praise the Lord we've been set free!May he remove that veil on others' eyes as well.May God continue to bless you.
howdytheresir 1 year ago
Very good & inspiring thoughts you are sharing here. If any trinitarians after watching this, can stll they continue to hold that apostate doctrine? I must confess once again, the spirit of blindess came over them as it did to Israelites in a different form. At that time Israelites did not have any problem in believing that Jesus as man, but could not accept Jesus as the Son of God, but now most of the Christians believe that Jesus as Son of God but not as Son of man.
shibakim 1 year ago
@shibakim Thank you so much.Always such an encouragement(and even a relief!lol) to find those like minded out there who understand what's going on.People were ANGRY at Yahushua for being the unique Son of man with God's authority in him!They couldn't fathom it then and they still can't without inventing lies to make it more palatable to them.Not that everyone's "inventing lies."Some of simply deceived,which is an insidious and scary place to be.Let's keep praying and spreading truth !
howdytheresir 1 year ago