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  • M2K was campy and gay in this match for two reasons: 1) The game's design encourages it to an extent. 2) Gnes wasn't even slightly aggressive. He just sat back and shot nuts. It's like both of them were lazy as fuck.

  • If Melee and 64 didn't exist, no one would even consider Brawl as a competitive game.

  • some dude told me to look at this to see why metaknight is banned from tourneys, and honestly i dont get it, hes banned becuase "high lvl" players like these 2 only camped and spammed till the other gave out. mk shouldnt be banned becuase not everyone who legitly mains him is a campy spammy excuse of a slack player :/

    One thing i never understood about tourneys, how hard is it to say "if you do this and that with this or that character your disqaulified"

    inb4trolloranexcusetosaythiswo­uldntwork

  • @MrQwertymang Hello there! I have to say this is only one of many examples of metaknight using this technique. Inspite of that being apart of the big argument (him being played in this style), not noting his tornado, ability to fight off stage, and recovery as an unfair advantage is just not fair in itself. I have witnessed top players from my region (Florida) lose to players of way less fighting skill. With metaknight gone people feel good and have an idea of how to gauge who's better. IMO.

  • @manofgames4555 IMO that top player you were witnessing wasnt so top notch to lose to someone under him, that is to say maybe your thinking to highly of that person, but as someone whos always stuck to using mk and ice climbers since the beginning see this as unfair, as for recoveries and air fighting ability, if i had to fight an mk id just waited till he landed. let mk have the recoveries, ice climbers have ther chaingrabing but thats deemed as fair. i think mk is just hated for popularity.

  • but my other question hasn't been answered also, how hard is it to say "to all metaknight users, if out of very 5 actions you make if three happen to be consecutive mach tornado or three happen to be consecutive down smash you will be disqualified" " To all Ice climber mains, if after the 3rd grab in one chain grab motion you fail to use an execution move such as a ending throw or smash attack you will be disqualified" Eliminates the issue

    of complaints, character bans and it sets a fair field.

  • @manofgames4555 Lol. Yes MK has those things, but that isn't an excuse to ban him. MK has tornado? Many characters have things like that. Diddy has bananas, Falco has phantasm (which is almost equally as hard to beat outright) and some characters have chain grabs. Ability to fight off stage? He doesn't monopoly that department either. D3 (most notably due to the jumps) can do that, and Marth and a few others can fare well off-stage as well (although admittedly not as well as MK).

  • @manofgames4555 And the Florida top players were beaten by MK hmm? Does that matter? They could just as well have went up against another character that their character is even worse against.

    MK does have even match-ups btw.

    Also, my opinion on Meta-ban is neutral. I don't main him so idgaf. I just like putting up counter-arguments lol.

  • @Stalkercopters You and I are alike in liking to put up counter arguments and not maining metaknight. All things are possible in any situation. I can beat someones metaknight with jigglypuff or ganondorf for that matter "potentially". Just weighing in my experience with the game (playing before it officially came out) and considering tools each character has as opposed to the topic of skill. Smash is a game of positioning your opponent off the stage. Who does it better? MK

  • bad game for aspies

  • For a 4 stock brawl match that timer needs to be at least 20 minutes. Damn pros and their rush down tactics. Also M2K should of flew under the map more, and not nearly enough bananas and peanuts were thrown.

  • lmao @ scrubby diddy players who don't realise how gay their character is as well.

  • Lol this is why Brawl sucks dick

  • one of the most inspirational games of all time.

    (in that it inspired me to return to melee.)

  • boring.

  • whats with the music.... i lmao still...

  • oh wait nvm i just read the description XD

  • wuts the 1st song called :D

  • it looks like m2k was barely trying

  • badass music

  • i hope there's more in the metagame's future than this.

  • @PlayerPandu

    there is more...this is one of the slowest paced brawl matches I have seen

  • 8:11 -->> lol

  • Oh gosh. Running attack to finish the game XD

  • Some people may disagree but I beleive Diddy was too spammy in this match. Well Diddy is always spammy, it's his strategy. I'm quite proud and suprised at M2K's strategy against Diddy. Being a MK Main myself, I have trouble with Diddys mainly cause of nana spam. I'm glad I saw this, I'll use this into my diddy strategy. STAY OFF THE GROUND.

  • @S0L3RFORCE wow you use meta knight and you have problems against diddy? FAIL. and you are impressed by his "strategy"? FAIL. learn to push B faster you dumbass faggot

  • @ThatBassist6 I know how to play against Diddy now: learn his banana tricks. Use them against him. As for you other comment, all I'm going to say is "Haters gonna Hate" and people should quit bickering over MK and find a strategy against him. btw for your info, MK still slips on nanas while in a nado and 64 attacks beat nanos priority. FAIL.

  • @S0L3RFORCE fail on your part for failing to recognize a sardonic comment. leave it to a metafag...

  • @S0L3RFORCE Only thing to work on against a diddy is actually to punish a ddk when he is following his banana.

  • wow like this match was long enough that it had to go through 3 entire songs.. i have lost all respect for m2k..

  • It's always SuNnY in Texas :)

  • @KawaiiPoyo I dont know him on a personal level. im sure hes a nice guy and i know hes a great smasher and every body has to do what they have to do i guess but hes a better player when he fights agressively anyways so either way hes above stalling in my opinion

  • @KawaiiPoyo Money is no excuse for foul play. M2k is one of the few mk players that actually justify his ability and yet in this vid hes stooping to the level of almost every other metaknight player out there. Matches like this is why there is a ledge grab rule but because of mk's safe recovery and perfect air camping potential M2k was able to dodge even that restriction. that match should have been penalized for stalling.

  • Jesus christ the MK is the biggest display of faggotry I've ever seen.

  • @KawaiiPoyo this vid reminds me that the top players are all scrubs and take this game too seriously i'd imagine you yourself sir are in that category of morons.

    @shadow1pj clearly it's that rule has failed

  • @Patmancav66 Do you even know what a scrub is? Obviously not, considering your current stance.

  • metaknight should be banned from tournaments if theres gonna be timers

  • this is the worst set of brawl ever played it's as boring as Boer VS Anther in 2009 I think the best thing about this video is the song choices "tommorow, Tommorow" couldn't be more fitting because I have the feeling M2K took all day, there should be rules against this and someone should get rid of the timer

  • @Patmancav66 there is a rule to prevent this level of gayness

  • The slowest game ever made.

  • 1st stock ABSOLUTE RAPE

  • I came here for red carpet extendomatic... oh this is a brawl video?

    metaknight da bess

  • Gnes has no balls, the second m2k started to glide under the map I would've caught on instantly and risk my entire stock just to spike him.

    Take more risks, FREENESS

  • @KawaiiPoyo Nah man, M2K just choked at the end.

  • @KawaiiPoyo MK still lost to Olimar. Brood got revenge for all who suffered MK's and M2K's gayness in this horrible and campy game. Brood da bess. Olimar for Jesus Tier.

  • @KawaiiPoyo this is outdated. Brood vs M2K is the greatest set Brawl set of all time, fucking MK with Olimar.

  • The ending was just lol

  • M2K outwitted, outplayed and outlasted Gnes. He shoulda been on Survivor, not ken.

  • You know what solves this problem? Ban MK. Or ban him from smashville.

    Too big? Put food on low.

    You don't like items? -____-

  • wow gnes sucks

  • my sis wonder what is this song+

  • honestly, a great match, but i see stalling time-out, =/

    but because of that diddy camp, lol i would too.

    gg

  • Thanks M2K for showing the world why Brawl should never be considered a competitive game. You fucking idiot.

  • when the tomorrow song came up... the mood totally changed

  • I loved the way m2k glides its just too good

    Straight up.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • looks like stalling to me... >.>

  • wtf is this music

  • brawl is a fun game when you don't give a fuck about winning

  • If people ever want to know what it looks like to be at the top level of Brawl, I would point them to this video and say, "These are the top players in Brawl. This is Brawl at it's finest." What a great game.

    /sarcasm

  • @SothE700k Agreed. A game, even under great design, becomes an advanced version of Tic-Tac-Toe when exploits are utilized. The only people who would argue that exploits should be allowed are those who would make any lie or excuse if it meant fame and money to them.

  • B button spam ftw?

  • WOW this is soo fucking gay...timing out 2 times in one set...what kind of pussy move is that????

    you can't justify this..oh there was money on the line...FUCK YOU!

  • LMAO

    I love how MK just grabs the peanut with his back turned. Like he don't give a fuck.

    META KNIGHT DA BESS

  • M2K vs GNES yah we seen dawg

  • Intensely boring but hey, thats what brawls evolved into :) if u cant beat em camp em...

    from the small skirmishes it seemed like m2k would win even if he didn't camp...?

    sigh

  • LOL @Time finish, american's favorite

  • m2k is fail. metaknight is a no skill character

  • How is this a win for M2k? It was Sudden Death

  • I'd rather be an unskilled fag who uses a character that "takes no skill" to use, and win money, than play another character and go empty handed.

  • @GimpStyleMadness You're absolutely right, it's play to win, Mew2King has the money, they don't. Whose the real loser?

    I swear, I wish for the people who say "MK TAKES NO SKILL" and "FREE WIN HERE" to go to a major tournament and use MK and see how much of a free win it is. For the people who've actually learned the MU, which is virtually everyone in the tournament scene, you'de be screwed if you didn't know what you were doing. Notice, it's only n00bs who say "BAN MK!"

    TKD ain't mad.

  • @PrinceShion i lol'd at the last line. i dont think mk should be banned, i just think there should be some limit on his dair and uair. then it would be better

  • @122333pls That doesn't make any sense. If you limit his Dair and Uair, you might as well limit Diddy's bananas to one, Peach's turnips to 3-4 per stock or something. That's a horrible idea. Nobody would be able to play with MK, at all, you might as well ban him rather than that.

  • first.

    META KNIGHT IS NOOB TAKES NO SKILL

    BRAWL IS A BAD GAME

    METAGAME

    TIERS

    METAKNIGHT DA BESS

  • Livin' to 160 I can do that tank shit

  • Eh, I just don't feel the running was necessary. He hella gimped him in the very beginning of the match; and if anyone else noticed; when M2k started to play aggressive: AFTER GNES CLOSED A ONE STOCK GAP: he started raping-- only to start running again. I think if M2k breaks the running habit and keeps pressure on his opponent he'd be even better-- and would leave a lot better taste in the spectators mouth after the fact, because watching a win by time out is boring and stupid.

  • @blahoho Even though I was defending Jason, I have to agree with this. When I saw that, I wondered why he didn't play that well the whole match. But, you can't deny that Gnes was fucking up quite a bit.

  • LOL I could have sworn it was Lacrimosa. I sang that song in choir lol. How fitting.

  • people who can't appreciate brawl are like people who cant appreciate soccer. Yes melee (and basketball) has more up tempo and might be more exciting to watch but its a very different game that you cant really compare you have to see it for how it is not what you want it to be they should not have put ssb in front of brawl its to different it should have just been brawl

  • Brawl is such a good game. This match shows it's amazing qualities. A very effective competitive game. Wouldn't want to mess with these guys! They CRAZY! Look at all that standing around! Look at all that ledge grabbing! Look at that timer go down! THIS SHIT IS FUCKING INTENSE.

  • oh look, spammer campers.

  • Brawl ftw

  • What a camping faggot. I swear all metaKnight players are faggots.

  • @hpufo If camping makes you a faggot, most Brawl players are. The game mechanics reward camping more than aggression.

  • @Sara54755 Most brawl players do not camp nearly this hard.

  • @hpufo True, but most of them DO camp. It's just part of the game. If you don't like to watch camping, you probably shouldn't watch Brawl.

  • excellent music choice on #2, not joking, loved it =D

  • M2k was fucking with Gnes mostof the round....what an cocky son of a bitch...

  • @ Various people... you'll know who you are:

    You can't blame him for camping? If M2K can take the guy's first stock in 15 seconds, it should not take another 6 and a half minutes to remove the next one. Diddy's air game doesn't even come close to rivaling MKs... no other character's air game does. MK has a ton of safe approach options, he never has to worry about approaching correctly. Also, MK is exempt from tripping because he can stay airborne and attack effectively from the air.

  • You gotta do what you gotta do when you want money.

  • WOW brawl just wow. who still plays that shitty game is shitty. Melee all daylee sons.

  • M2K VS GNES

    YAH WE SEEN DAWG

  • @Taigacan Bro I just understood the comment you sent me lol! That song is too good! True

  • @Taigacan lol 4:15 live until 160, yea i do that tank shit xD

  • CUZ PRO end of story.

  • Nice win Jase. Music was so fitting lol

  • Nobody here can blame Jason for how he played, because everybody can see Diddy controlled the stage. You can say whatever you want about MK running away, but in the end, it was all positioning. MK was the one that had to take the offensive.

  • fail game is fail

  • @IMAK3N0V1DS Brawl is fake and gay!

  • m2k got his first kill off in 20 secs. He didn't have to camp the whole f****ing time.

  • This makes me want to pick up meta knight if its THAT easy!

  • Don't hate the player, hate the game.

  • It's matches like these that makes me love watching ADHD wail on M2K.

  • I cried with joy at that gimp

  • LOOOOOL this game sucks

  • @MaNg0Puff get ur ass 2 melee lmao mango!!!

  • Good Game mew2king. too good.

  • wasnt scrooging banned? and the ledge grab rule? honestly MK would be fair without the glide and what, 6 jumps, maybe like 3 jumps. hed be on par. this is sad i dont know why ppl still play this game, even little girls and kids pick up mk, sad.

  • Thank you metaknight. For the most boring match I have ever seen (no offense to the diddy.) You really have some skill there man, really.

  • This video just taught me a valuable lesson. The true purpose of video games is to not have fun. At all.

  • I don't even understand why M2K played so campy in the first place. Way too many peanuts to the face. He actually got in there just fine when it came time to it at the last stock. Then just ran around I think he likes pissing people off

    I understand money was on line but still it was like he said fuck it im just gona piss him off.

  • M2K vs Gnes, yeah we seen dawg.

  • Brawl sucks. Good thing I play Melee, where being better than the other guy counts for something.

  • This match makes me cry. I really wish competitive Brawl was more fun. :(

  • Gnes he just mad

    Diddy he be mad.

    Meta Knight da Bess.

  • as a melee player, this just kind of shoots all of brawls defenses in the foot, lol i need to train with jason in the art of camping and go and win a few brawl tournaments

    keep in mind even if u say M2K was camping, he was ahead most if not all the match, its his right to not have to approach seeing as he had the lead, if anyone was camping i'd say it was diddy, camping when your losing, smart

  • to the brawl players watching this match... you guys should give competitive melee a try. it's kind of like a faster version of brawl, without... uhh... this shit. lol, seriously though, we'd love to have you, give melee a shot!

  • @Oosanbashi Well put.

    Also, M2K is a great smasher, and you can see it in moments here, but ya, he's just doing what he has to win, which is more the fault of the game if anything.

  • Honestly, you can't blame Jason for camping. First and foremost, money was on the line, and secondly, Diddy has retarded bananas, an airgame that rivals MKs, and everythign you can do with MK can be punished with a glide toss OoS. What the hell are you supposed to do? I looked up the MU, and are you honestly expected to be on the ground at all to even try an Ftilt? People can say MK is a gay character, but realize that bananas legally tripping you is equally as gay.

  • @PrinceShion So true! Lol I think Jason was justified...eventhough he would have normally lost he didn't because, he knows how to win. Metaknight is not a cakewalk to play either not all the time. For 1 he's light as heck and if he isn't approaching safely he can get KO'd just as fast as half the cast.

  • @manofgames4555 plus, you have to know all the MUs with MK. Since every other character has to know his. It sucks having to try to memorize like 37 people. You never know who you run into, though. Honestly, Diddy is a hard as hell MU for MK, and the way most Diddys play against him shuts him down so hard, I don't really see many positives for him. Instant win, HA far from it.

  • @manofgames4555 ...having the fastest momentum cancel that lets him live to stupid percents for a LIGHT WEIGHT and transcendent priority = hard to not get hit/die with.. you're joking right? please tell me you are...

    he wasn't justified to play like a dick <_< he got a gimp at 0% at the end he played offensive and killed him quickly. he was NOT justified to do that.

  • @PrinceShion

    looks good on paper, but the matchup is about 6/4 mk's favor if you know how to play it correctly, it doesn't even need camping to be won

  • @doktadope Nowhere near that much in MK's favor is the Diddy plays perfectly.

  • @PrinceShion Your logic is flawed. I can and WILL blame him for camping like a pussy. if you can't win right then don't fkin play.

    diddy takes idk a certain amount of wutsitcalled.. SKILL to set up traps effectively. but you're right ;_; i wish i could fkin hit B like that and glide under the stage 400 times

    i hate how people are ignorant enough to try and defend this piece of trash game and this faggot play style that you idiots think is "skill" or "playing the matchup correctly"

  • @SoraHyuuga01 Really? How so? You do realize that Diddy doesn't have to approach at all, basically MK is the only one forced to approach, Diddy rarely, or never approaches, and the set up Diddy has, and how just about anything MK can do can be punished with a glide toss OoS. I don't think I was defending the game, so much as defending Jason, if anything. It's pplay to win, if you can't handle that, then you're in no position to call anyone ignorant.

  • @PrinceShion ...No. MK vs Diddy is still in MK's favor marginally, as is every OTHER fight. Two things I hate: MK and people playing like a fag. M2K always manages to do both. MK is possibly the easist character to use. Just jump -> Dair -> Nado, never has to touch the ground and deal with the bananas. Sure, tripping bananas are gay, but evasive T-spamming MKs are worse by a mile. Tell M2K to go back to Melee, so that he won't ruin shit for everyone.

  • @PrinceShion: Shut the fuck up. We can totally blame Jason for camping.

  • @Virusbluemage Aren't you the moron whom everyone wonders why you still post in Smash videos? Yes, I remember you well, always getting marked down for posting idiotic posts.

  • this is worse than watching a puff duel in melee.

  • Dair camping, planking, scrooging... this should be a tutorial video of how to be gay with metaknight. At least it had good music- I love WoG.

  • M2K uses Ike and rapes in Low Tiers, how do you explain that? M2K I hear doesn't have bad other characters too. He has a pretty good DDD. Don't get all mad at a video and start calling him a sissy girl, it's a game dude chill out. M2K is probably the best smasher America has to offer. He reinvented MK just like he reinvented Marth in Melee after Ken.

  • I don't get why people idolize M2K so much. He's a fucking tier whore , pussy and a fag. Just look at this match , really laughable. I hope meta knight gets banned so people can see he can't do shit without his broken winged fruit.

  • @ginin333 Lol, sound like you're jealous. M2K is naturally a skilled player. He would still be TOP without MK. Don't be jealous that you such a fag that probably mains Yoshi and loses all the time.

  • Of course I'm jealous for not being able to play like a complete fag like him with an overpowered character who requires next to no skill to use. I'm so jealous of not being able to run from my opponent like a sissy girl and you assumption of me maining yoshi makes me lol. I'm so jealous because i fight like a man and not run. Yeah.

  • Unfortunately, when money is on the line and you need it...not to mention he doesn't know the match up at all and gnes is too good. Play him and you might understand a bit better.

    PS. Take it easy on M2K he is still arguably the best smasher! :)

  • I reckon he's really good at melee (not like ken but still) but when people do stuff as gay as this I feel like vomiting. I want to see him winning by using a character that isn't meta knight and I'll reckon he's good , but not when he's using who is arguably the most broken character the smash bros series has ever had. I'd play him but I doubt he plays online , which I do.

  • @ginin333 And yes, M2K is much much much better than Ken in Melee, he 3 stocked Kens Marth. He took 16 stocks off Ken's whole crew. M2K took what Ken did to Marth and advanced it, way more.

    M2K has been better than Ken, where have you been?

  • It's still an extremely boring game to watch. Very dishonorable.

  • @ginin333 Lol you're a moron ginin. First of all, Meta Knight has one of the steepest learning curves in the game. That means he is very VERY difficult to start learning at a professional level. Second, brawl is a defensive game, you can't just rush in like an idiot because you'll get punished for it. He's not running either, it's called spacing. Idiot.

  • @mdmfromdaridge Meta Knight has a steep curve to learn how to play ? don't make me laugh. And of course that is running away. And that shit he's doing is very different from spacing. But I understand how people feel when someone gives their opinion on their idol and they don't like it. Keep sucking his cock , people like you and him won't stop at nothing until brawl's metagame is completely dead , but it's no use arguing with such brain dead people. Have a good day.

  • @ginin333 brawl's metagame is completely dead, you proved it right here. M2K is playing completely retarded and running away like you say, agreed? And he wins. Good stuff BARLW

    A metagame doesn't die because people play like this, it dies because people are ABLE TO WIN while playing like this. Why wouldn't he play the way that results in a win? A metagame is the form of play that is effective at high levels, and this is it bud.

  • MK takes skill. Look up M2K vs Goddy and tell me that anyone can win a national with MK.

    Also, M2K makin dat money.

  • @ginin333 Diddy is just as bad if not worse. Meta Knight had to camp if he desired ti win shit against Diddy.

  • @ginin333 LMAO @ saying mk takes no skill to use. I doubt you'd get top 10 with him in NY / Nj.

  • @ginin333 to be fair, gnes plays like two men sodomizing each other in a broom closet, he brought this on himself.

    Alternatively: NO SKILL! NO SKILL METAKNIGHT WITH NO SKILL! NO SKILL!

  • like m2k said on swf he did much better when he played aggresivley(spelling) and when he stalled or planked gnes caught up in %, plus from what i remember him saying he hates stalling and would actually like it banned, im sorry if i got some of the information wrong, and u can correct me if i made a mistake.

  • @ginin333 Your logic fails, my friend.

  • The worst stall of a match....

    Ever...

  • lol i love how i get thumbed down

    i guess nobody ever heard of dylan tnga?

  • Wow that was pretty much the worst choice of music for a Brawl video, ever.

    What the hell were you thinking?

  • I find the second song's lyrics ironic.

  • to me it seems to ironically fit the vid somehow XD

  • terrible music choices

  • M2K is such a dick. "Dash attack, ha ha!"

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  • Pathetic.

  • world of goo music awesome

  • Gnes played amazing, M2K is so incredibly gay he merits no respect at all. Play the game, don't gay the game

    Learn the match up, its really not THAT hard, Dojo seems to be able to do it just fine.

  • dojo also plays gnes all the time xD

  • So what were the results of Matches 2 & 3? They both went to sudden death but I don't know what rules you were playing by....

  • M2K won those. He had either more stocks and/or lower percentage

  • Thank you Metaknight, for reminding me why Brawl is such a horrible game.

  • lol people people seriously

    stop ranting about what m2k did to win.

    m2k has personaly made threads on smashboards stating he is terrible at the diddy matchup.

    so if ur in tourney and u get a huge gimp which gives u a stock lead and ur vsing someone that u have even said ur self that ur bad at fighting

    what would u do? try and fight someone that u say ur bad at fighting against? or play to win and be the smarter player.

    m2k even lost the lead at one point gnes could have capitalized but nope

  • @Adro1337

    Playing to win: youre being a fag by doing so

  • Playing to win: You're being a fag that's 1500 dollars richer

  • @joekiklis then play a different game scrubs

  • I can make that money every weekend just by doing *gasp* my job.

    and this play to win attitude is what ruins what is fun about smash by making it centered around stalling and gay tactics.

  • lol yes working for 8 hours is soooo much easier then playing video games all day and getting payed to do what you would want to be doing even if it was a casual game.... win

    good logic

    8 hours of work > getting paid to play video games lol....?