Everyone gets it backwards. They see Nadal with huge muscles and think "I need to muscle the ball". WRONG. Its all about headspeed. You're not putting any more energy into the ball than how fast the weight of the racquet moves. Thats why someone without massive biceps like Federer can generate such pace. Relax and swing fast
federers slice is quite unique, inidividually his topspin backhand or slice may not be the best, however its his combination of the two and how he uses it makes him the best...
I was learning on how to play a slice, wrist should be tight all the time, but i always slice the ball really short, just like the drop shots, even far from the base line, what should i do?
someone on here commented they though you should keep your wrist tight. id like to clarify that you always want to have a loose wrist when playing tennis. NOT weak. but loose.
This is just me but when i slice, i use a continental grip but when I'm hitting a backhand (one handed) i use eastern. I find you can control and drive through the slice better with continental.
Funny how again Federer messes up any modern and classical instructions again with this stroke.
I heard many person saying keepign the wrist tight helps and they usually follow across their body.
Here you really see Federer purpously lets the wrist flex a bit and dive the arm downward. The guy probably has the best slice on the tour and yet he redefines tennis instructions.
We all can and should learn from Federer, no matter which stroke he hits.
You want to laugh? This man surely could speak to you about why he does what and when better than any coach you will find.
You obviously do not know what is to be a sport professionnal. It is the technic that makes them great - skills is wasted if they don't use it correctly. They have worked for years with coaches to move correctly. They surely have technical knowledge.
@GueorguiJoukov it doesnt look like his wrist is flexing all that much. and if it is, then its probably due to the force of the ball. however, the way he cocks his head a little to the right like that actually does help for consistency and control. i tried doing that and i was so much more consistent and my backhand and i could hit way sharper angles.
@GueorguiJoukov Exactly. He's taken the idea of using the wrist from his regular backhand and built it into his slice. Makes your slice so much more effective.
federer doesnt hit on the sweetspot on the slice because it generates more backspin if the ball is hit from the lower part of the racket to the upper part (thats quite common sense)
How can no one control where the ball lands... Naturally, most players who slice the ball well do hit start from the outer edge of the racket, not to mention these guys are professional, and I don't think you realize all the little tiny tweaks that you can't see that professionals are able to do until you see things like slow motion videos and such. Plus, all it is, is timing. I mean I'm no pro, but I definately can time it to hit closer to the edge of the racket for more spin.
You have to be able to be about half a ball width sure where it lands on the racket to actually play shots correctly; if not, you're like anyone strating and you hit the metal on each stroke.
This shot is quite special because you can slice more or less to control depth, power, bounce and spin. A great shot to recover position.
It's funny how to see people are amazed by others who can hit one handed backhanders and slices correctly. You only need to use it to make it good somewhen.
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LOP000 the main thing to know about the slice is that you aren't supposed to be "pulling down" trying to literally cut the ball for the backspin. Though it is a little difficult to tell through Roger's slow motion video, he is actually going through the ball quite fast as well as bringing the racket down. When you finish the stroke however, the racket should be much in front of you at your right hip. The racket should not continue to go down or else you will hit the frame a lot.
is this a volley? A good slice in the right place can win a point or set up the opponent where you want him/her, so you can hit the next shot as a winner.
people who are whining about his slice being bad. you guys gotta realize that when ball is that high up at your shoulder, it's really difficult to hit high spin slice. I think like other people mentioned, this slice would be enough to gain more time.
That's the kind of slice that will go deep and then drop with little pace. If he had driven through the ball a little more, it would slide more off the court. He could have executed this shot defensively or to gain time for court position.
no, pause it at 8 seconds; it doesn't hit the frame, but it also is way off the sweet spot. however, federer doesn't use a oversized racquet frame (fairly certain of that)
Look closer!! Make sure you freeze it on contact.The ball is squeezed between the frame and strings. The ball is coming in too fast and flat for a groundstroke.Looks like a service return guys!! It.s not a volley cause he's not in motion and the ball appears to have bounced..He's waiting for the ball to rise..
It hit the frame!!! The oversized racket has ruined my amazement of these players..Back in the day,that ball would've been a miss hit..That's why tennis has lost a lot of it's followers,too much grunting,less skill,and oversize rackets..
That's why they hit the ball out and into the net... And swiftsid, the fucking backswing is too big for a damn volley idiot. Learn tennis before you start naming shots.
Everyone gets it backwards. They see Nadal with huge muscles and think "I need to muscle the ball". WRONG. Its all about headspeed. You're not putting any more energy into the ball than how fast the weight of the racquet moves. Thats why someone without massive biceps like Federer can generate such pace. Relax and swing fast
IricForset 3 months ago
@IricForset . NIce try Nadal.
inGotham 2 months ago
If it were a volley Federer would not have such a big swing...
y11971alex 7 months ago
it´s like a blocking shot...perhaps he was doing some kind of drop shot
andrewsLG 7 months ago
press 5, then 6 and repeat.
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tonyt0ny 9 months ago
federers slice is quite unique, inidividually his topspin backhand or slice may not be the best, however its his combination of the two and how he uses it makes him the best...
konvictz0007 10 months ago
I can't figure this out because as Gueorg said, the ideal thing to do would be keep your wrist locked at 90 degrees and swing through it not up-down.
This looks like a Federer slice return, because he's actually moving back towards the center of the court at the same time.
MasturB428 1 year ago
i think it's a high backhand volley!
namdonhu 1 year ago
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this is a volley i think.not a slice
namdonhu 1 year ago
lol you don't swing like that on a volley...
hattrickster33 1 year ago
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@hattrickster33 I think it's a high backhand volley
namdonhu 1 year ago
Hey guys i need some help!
I was learning on how to play a slice, wrist should be tight all the time, but i always slice the ball really short, just like the drop shots, even far from the base line, what should i do?
lokitkit 1 year ago
@lokitkit move your body forward when you hit it
chgpatriot7 1 year ago
rofl that isn`t roger federer!! c(:
JonnyWalker212 2 years ago
hehe yeah it is:3
akosigloc9 1 year ago
Boooo, this video shows Fed almost framing in slow motion! hehehe
hillsong1004 2 years ago
...that is art...
solrac4171 2 years ago
someone on here commented they though you should keep your wrist tight. id like to clarify that you always want to have a loose wrist when playing tennis. NOT weak. but loose.
mrbackhand1234 2 years ago
This is just me but when i slice, i use a continental grip but when I'm hitting a backhand (one handed) i use eastern. I find you can control and drive through the slice better with continental.
themaliced 2 years ago
Hmm... Nadal seems to use a different grip when using the slice?
terminator8338 2 years ago
It's because you can't be taught your style of play. You learn it from experience and game play.
You develop how you hit through practice and repetition.
Guides are just outlines but are up to the player to develop it even further.
oOKryptiKOo 2 years ago
Federer the teacher of tennis.
naikahnomtom 2 years ago
Funny how again Federer messes up any modern and classical instructions again with this stroke.
I heard many person saying keepign the wrist tight helps and they usually follow across their body.
Here you really see Federer purpously lets the wrist flex a bit and dive the arm downward. The guy probably has the best slice on the tour and yet he redefines tennis instructions.
We all can and should learn from Federer, no matter which stroke he hits.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago 15
actually, most pros dont have textbook - like techniques. they are just too good for those and they play with their own styles.
animaanimaanima 2 years ago
You want to laugh? This man surely could speak to you about why he does what and when better than any coach you will find.
You obviously do not know what is to be a sport professionnal. It is the technic that makes them great - skills is wasted if they don't use it correctly. They have worked for years with coaches to move correctly. They surely have technical knowledge.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
@GueorguiJoukov it doesnt look like his wrist is flexing all that much. and if it is, then its probably due to the force of the ball. however, the way he cocks his head a little to the right like that actually does help for consistency and control. i tried doing that and i was so much more consistent and my backhand and i could hit way sharper angles.
flagman57 1 year ago
@GueorguiJoukov Exactly. He's taken the idea of using the wrist from his regular backhand and built it into his slice. Makes your slice so much more effective.
hattrickster33 1 year ago
@GueorguiJoukov The classical technique manual does not apply to Roger. He writes his own instructions
sarasmilepiano 6 months ago
pierdole was ^^
Ciabaja 2 years ago
ちょっと中心はずしたのかなぁ?
aitiken21 2 years ago 2
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maybe it'll be funnier if the ball back to his head
neromydog 2 years ago
federer doesnt hit on the sweetspot on the slice because it generates more backspin if the ball is hit from the lower part of the racket to the upper part (thats quite common sense)
lecafeaucaca 2 years ago
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even if that was true, i doubt he would do it on purpose, no one can control where the ball lands
dasdaka 2 years ago
How can no one control where the ball lands... Naturally, most players who slice the ball well do hit start from the outer edge of the racket, not to mention these guys are professional, and I don't think you realize all the little tiny tweaks that you can't see that professionals are able to do until you see things like slow motion videos and such. Plus, all it is, is timing. I mean I'm no pro, but I definately can time it to hit closer to the edge of the racket for more spin.
THES0L0IST 2 years ago 3
Actually, timing is the key to doing it. I have a fairly well developed backhand, and I can do that.
ThankYouMyTwilight 2 years ago
You have to be able to be about half a ball width sure where it lands on the racket to actually play shots correctly; if not, you're like anyone strating and you hit the metal on each stroke.
This shot is quite special because you can slice more or less to control depth, power, bounce and spin. A great shot to recover position.
It's funny how to see people are amazed by others who can hit one handed backhanders and slices correctly. You only need to use it to make it good somewhen.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
not true. cuz the top part of the raquet is moving faster than the lower part.
tennisrules621 2 years ago
Even one of the greatest didn't always hit the sweet pot every time :)
TeDeKaay 2 years ago
i wish i could hit it in the sweet pot haha
KoreanMilkman2007 2 years ago 2
i can see federer has a nice deep slice but i rarely see him hitting a low but deep slice only in approach shots
naikahnomtom 2 years ago
oh so good
Barcelona32634 2 years ago
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that is hardly a slice. i would call that more of a drop shot.
hagerman8900 3 years ago
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Sacramones performance was terrible during the olympics and was the reason why Team USA lost. With that kind of performance and still made it to the national team, I wonder how many coaches did she have to sleep with in order to get the spot. Her ass is so fat, I think her ass is at least 20 pounds extra compared to her teammates. That was why she brought down Team USA. Stupid bitch should go to Jenny Craig. Alicia will go down as the worst, and most disgraceful gymnast in Olympic history.
johnyaowuncar6 3 years ago
what a fuck is this "sorry video unavailable" bullshit
tomassocannavaro 3 years ago
Refresh the page
petercourt 2 years ago
i think this is a return
seidl01 3 years ago 2
yeah it looks like a drop shop not a slice!!1
ratamandita 3 years ago
a new fragrance: slice
PropheSAY 3 years ago
was that a drop shot??
Zones10 3 years ago
i bet it's slice approach shot.
DriftKido 3 years ago
if it was a slice approach shot his body would be going foward towards the ball
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reclab07 3 years ago
did he shank that?
letsgoblues9 3 years ago
looks like
alllman2000 3 years ago
Almost, but it's not. Besides Federer's racket has a pretty thin beam.
DriftKido 3 years ago
this looks almost like an eastern forehand grip,but of course it must be continental
SunSigil 3 years ago
it looks so artistic after contact...and also like he's sayin i'm the s*** lol
PropheSAY 3 years ago 2
is that continental grip?
hugoskywalker 3 years ago
yeah...looks like he's using his slice as a return of serve
mlc040709 3 years ago
not quite, its the backhand V on 2nd bevel.
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bruisedandbattered0 3 years ago
okay now i get it already
thanks brother ^^
today i playing with my friend
i win him in tie break
i let him win me in 3 straight serve
but finally i win him
XD
LOP000 3 years ago
vicencasanova,i was playing the same slice like roger federer
But i still got the same case like you
can anyone teach me?
LOP000 3 years ago
instead of swinging down on the ball try to just go through it. Your grip will give the ball backspin and the ball will stay low.
Thatoutoftheloopkid 3 years ago 5
LOP000 the main thing to know about the slice is that you aren't supposed to be "pulling down" trying to literally cut the ball for the backspin. Though it is a little difficult to tell through Roger's slow motion video, he is actually going through the ball quite fast as well as bringing the racket down. When you finish the stroke however, the racket should be much in front of you at your right hip. The racket should not continue to go down or else you will hit the frame a lot.
THES0L0IST 3 years ago
its not hitting down, but kinda going vertical meeting the ball infront of your body not close to it, do you understand wat im saying?
leengsta94 2 years ago
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this isnt even a slice, its a volley
rungzea 3 years ago
i cand do the slice but i dont know why the ball get to high when i do it
vicentecasanova 3 years ago
federer´s slice is the bomb..
reefric 3 years ago
I HAVE HIS SAME RAQUET ..!
vicentecasanova 3 years ago
where did u get it
tennischampion995 3 years ago
is this a volley? A good slice in the right place can win a point or set up the opponent where you want him/her, so you can hit the next shot as a winner.
RogerAndMaria 4 years ago
people who are whining about his slice being bad. you guys gotta realize that when ball is that high up at your shoulder, it's really difficult to hit high spin slice. I think like other people mentioned, this slice would be enough to gain more time.
heejongsohn 4 years ago 2
That's the kind of slice that will go deep and then drop with little pace. If he had driven through the ball a little more, it would slide more off the court. He could have executed this shot defensively or to gain time for court position.
dparad22 4 years ago
THANK YOU for that shot! I'm working on that one, and who else to learn that shot from, but the absolutely very BEST?
I love Roger with all my heart.
TennisUSTA 4 years ago
what is BAGHDATIS doing in he audience?? wtfFFF!?!?
BosnianFarmer 4 years ago
where is he, i cant see him.
stavsantis 4 years ago
baghdatis is in the toilet
ps. yo, check the "Australian Open 2008 --PARODY-- Arnie & Dj Krmak" on youtube..its hilarious hahaha
travoltas 4 years ago
it is not supposed to be deep, havent u seen federer bring opponenets in so that he can pass them dtl or x-court
kamalgilkesk 4 years ago
hey that is baghdatis! hahaha
BosnianFarmer 4 years ago
how can u see anyone clearly..i cannot...
kamalgilkesk 4 years ago
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wtf!!! fucking bad slice, up and down?? dude.. that will be a low spin slice hahahahah
BosnianFarmer 4 years ago
if that was a volley, he wouldnt have followed the racket downward, youre not supposed to do that..and he uses a 90" headsize, that not oversize!
cognaccognac 4 years ago
no, pause it at 8 seconds; it doesn't hit the frame, but it also is way off the sweet spot. however, federer doesn't use a oversized racquet frame (fairly certain of that)
txchou 4 years ago
Look closer!! Make sure you freeze it on contact.The ball is squeezed between the frame and strings. The ball is coming in too fast and flat for a groundstroke.Looks like a service return guys!! It.s not a volley cause he's not in motion and the ball appears to have bounced..He's waiting for the ball to rise..
halfleischman 4 years ago
As far as oversized rackets go,he plays on a mid-size..The rackets I grew up playing on can be seen on utube, Borg vs Mcenroe, wimbledon finals,1980
halfleischman 4 years ago
i don't think so, he plays on a 90 (that's the NCode N-Six One Tour 90, and now he plays with the KFactor K-Six One 90
Forza37 4 years ago
It still has more frame surface tham a Wilson T-2000 or Jack Kramer.That's pretty clear,but thanks for clearing up what racket he uses.
halfleischman 4 years ago
oh, yeah no problemo, i just wanted to clarify he uses a mid sized racquet not a mid plus. but i use a mid too, and they are..... WICKED!!!!!! haha
Forza37 4 years ago
@txchou It¡s actually smaller (90)
aleztfu 1 year ago
It hit the frame!!! The oversized racket has ruined my amazement of these players..Back in the day,that ball would've been a miss hit..That's why tennis has lost a lot of it's followers,too much grunting,less skill,and oversize rackets..
halfleischman 4 years ago
This isnt back in the day is it?
Asadafadasa 4 years ago
Sure isn't.What form!! Looks like he's doing the breast stroke.. LOL!!
halfleischman 4 years ago
I can see why you think it was a volley. Why does every1 else have to be so closed minded?
Tproshot 4 years ago
I wouldn't describe it as closed minded when informing someone that a they're calling an animal a dog when it is really a cat.
txchou 4 years ago
That's why they hit the ball out and into the net... And swiftsid, the fucking backswing is too big for a damn volley idiot. Learn tennis before you start naming shots.
Oreoclan 4 years ago
From the looks of it he clipped the ball on the edge of the racket. Even the pros aren't perfect it seems.
Xesaniel 4 years ago
switsid's a dumbass
abujabi 4 years ago
lmao
Misoulis1 4 years ago
Owned. :D
mushupork 5 years ago
that's a friggin volley, not a slice.
swiftsid 5 years ago
he's on the baseline
txchou 5 years ago
@txchou lol
quintasz 1 year ago