FREE ENERGY FROM AIR CIRCUIT PART-3

[JamesJanota]

Think of a kite, a kite catches wind so you need something that catches radiant particles much like it.

[bcoulal]

Have you tried using a parabolic dish as an antenna, since a parabolic dish concentrates electromagnetic energy to a single point, and maybe you can put your coils into the center of the dish and point it to the sky. Ominidirectional antennas aren't very efficient when it comes to absorbing energy, but a parabolic dish can pick up signals from far off distances.

[INVENTOR3]

@bcoulal I got 2 dishes. I will try soon. Im implementing new ideas now. I hope to get more power very soon :-)

[begztube]

hi sir, what kind other diode it possible to replace to germanium, because this is not available to my country.thanks

[INVENTOR3]

@begztube Ohhh, many with the same problem....important thing is to try to find a germanium didode with lowest voltage drop you can find. Silicon didodes have .6V drop,,,,germanium have .4 V drop. try to find a diode that has like .4 V drop if you can.

[pacerodi]

It seams to me you are sucking the tree dry from its energy.

[INVENTOR3]

@pacerodi circuit is collecting Ambient energies. Very sure of this.

[SittingMooseShaman]

@INVENTOR3... tho' this vid is dated back in 2009, 15, May... It's now 2011, 24, July... So-oo-oo. How's it goin?! Had the tape change worked? I do understand there's a 'hole lot of potential out 'there'- just filling space and mass...waitin' for that one 'right' application of science...

[INVENTOR3]

@SittingMooseShaman I been working on it this summer with no better results yet :-(

working on many projects at once, tesla coils, van de graph, magnetic experiments & and now im going to make a lifter, waiting for some parts to come in the mail :-)

[SittingMooseShaman]

...on that tape... some adhesives can carry current- thus grounding-out the charge. Nice little neighborhood...

[INVENTOR3]

@SittingMooseShaman Hmm, yes,,,i should of tried another type of insulation.

[a2cool49]

originally you had the right wavelength.....26 feet, but to draw more current you need to have more copper at the top of that 26 pole you had in part 2

[a2cool49]

you obviously know this is Tesla's Radiant Energy system right?? 

[INVENTOR3]

@a2cool49 Yes, Tesla's. Dr Moray perfected this though, in my oppinion.

I get as much as 124V,,,i think in video 16.

Thanks for the comments.

[sorova]

This is energy harvesting, not free energy! You are using RF energy that others pay for when they transmit signals on radio. It is only free to you. If everybody did this there would be no signal power left!

[vossua]

Your steel hooks are acting as choke coils. Find a way to fasten your wires without close intersecting coils, especially over an iron core. These choke coils will produce power robbing eddy currents and internal impedance.

[rammgarr]

Paul..about the antenna .,is it more important to have it highter then longer or both.do i have to insulate it from being graunded and the wire coming in to the generator do i have to use coax cable or just plain insulated wire???i i just finish building one but i dont get absolutely nothing i used my cb. antenna and i used my out door tv antenna and no reading of any kind.all the components check ok..,help!

[INVENTOR3]

@rammgarr Antenna needs to be long and high, both. It can not touch anything,,it must be insulated from what ever you mount it to and come down on an angle to the circuit, dont let the circuit touch anything either, insulate from ground. Coaxial works ok, but varnish type coated wire works best so far. Coaxials have a habbit of capturing "Static". Regular antennas do not work, because they are specificaly designed to capture a very specific "range" of frequencies.

[CTR831]

can you use higher powered electric components (capacitors,diodes)?

[INVENTOR3]

@CTR831 bigger diodes do not help at this point with the circuit the way it is. And no luck with larger caps yet, but i think larger caps can work maybe with some addjustments

[thelth88]

hey there @INVENTOR3 awsome free energy, i had an idea to get more power from ur model. The power that your air current generates could run the little motor that runs the Van De Graaff Generator which collects static electricity, you could have ur self a free energy generator. just a thought.

[h2oplasmaplug]

well i guess the best thing to do would be to use porcelain maybe some old spark plugs would work great. i love the work your doing. great job

[INVENTOR3]

@h2oplasmaplug if you watch the latter videos, i now use the tall PVC pole, no more tree. But yes, i did think of using the porcelain, good idea.

[h2oplasmaplug]

did you try to tap a nail in to the tree no that i like hurting trees.

[INVENTOR3]

@h2oplasmaplug i dont like to hurt the trees either ;-)

yes, i tried the nail, but no good at all,,,antenna is no good when touching the tree at all. antenna must not touch anything at all, or must be well insulated from touching anything.

[teslacult]

Wood is not a perfect insulator, could be part of the problem you are having with your voltage, grounding your antenna. When you measure power output, don't just measure the voltage, measure the voltage with a resistive load. What good is a static 18v if it drops to .5 v when driving a load.

[INVENTOR3]

@teslacult i agree about the wood, and checking the power,,next video shows the new pole design. Also later vids show me checking the power with a load, also video of powering a calculator. Thanks for the comments

[JRBeaman]

Free energy from the air?

You bet yur butt you can get some. There's lots of it around.

Find the strongest RF signal and use a simple diode to make

DC, and charge your batteries. Current is king here. Use a

voltage doubler to get it high enough for useful charging, but

be careful your circuitry does not use up too much of the energy.

[henrykay01]

I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena that violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $6M for a prototype and patents.

H. Tomasz Grzybowski

tel. +48-512-933-540

[JRBeaman]

@henrykay01

"I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena

that violate the law of energy conservation."

Uh, OK. (No prototype yet?)

You can sell anything to someone dumber than you

if you are a good salesman.

[henrykay01]

@JRBeaman I am a good inventor, but I could use help of a good salesman to get the money for the prototype and patents. If you know someone who can invest, give me a call.

[JRBeaman]

@henrykay01 You will have to explain your findings a bit more than just make a claim here on YouTooB to get anyone with resources to invest anything. There

are a lot of people making the claim with all sorts of energy conservation devices claiming overunity with magnetic 'power' when magnets do not provide power. Think of them like a spring, energy in equals energy out minus losses. Most mechanisms have losses in friction and sound. To claim otherwise needs serious proof. The money needs this.

[henrykay01]

@JRBeaman Contact me by e-mail - my e-mail address is in my contact box.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman magnets do not provide power, then where does it come from I think they DO! I think they are constantly circulating, but also exchanging particals with new ones. Of course it comes from the magnet, where else would the power come from? Our planets are exchanging this same energy all the time.

[INVENTOR3]

@INVENTOR3 You just said, energy in equals energy out MINUS losses, well if minus losses and no new energy is coming into it,, then the magnet would die out like a battery. Yes, magnets become weaker in time, losses some magnetism/gravity.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Magnets loss of force field over time is not significant.

There is not enough to consider it into the equations.

A magnet is not like a battery. It is like a capacitor, you have

to put something in to get something out. Or like a spring, same thing.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman

yes, a mgnets force field get weaker over time, but can be easily recharged after 10 or 15 years of opperation. Yes, you have to put something into it to get something out....., we dont have to put anything into it, the cosmos is alwyas putting into it. We dont have to put anything into the Earth, are you telling me we dont have gravity.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Energy has to be put into a magnetic field to get power out.

A generator is mostly a magnet, you have to put energy in

to get electrical power out. The 'cosmos' is not putting any

energy into the magnets. That is not in their nature.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 You can 're-charge' a magnet anytime.

Gravity is not energy, no more than magnetism.

The cosmos does not create or change gravity nor

magnets. They are forces, not energy. The cosmos

energy is mostly nuclear in origin, with many many

manifistations of energy.

I think Moray's device was a wideband collector of stray electromagnetic energy run thru a voltage multiplier. The higher the voltage, the lower the current, and

therby the lower the heat.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 in 500 characters?

Magnets. Think spring, or capacitor. You have to put work in to get the work out.

You need quantum mechanics to describe the forces involved, but a force, by itself is not energy, and it takes energy to create power. Think Electricity, Voltage is force, but without current there is no energy nor power. Think physics, Force = MA where something has to be moving. That requires power to be put in, and that takes energy. Magnets have no inherent energy in them.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman

I still think magnets are the key. Force by itself is not energy, i agree, but energy particals in space are all ready in motion from the big bang, along with laws of repultion and attraction/gravity. we dont have to create energy, it is already there.

[INVENTOR3]

@INVENTOR3

I dont think current is nessasary, well at least not electron current. Moray's device ran cool. There are 30 trillion nutrinoes going through our bodies every second. Science is not always correct, the right hand rule, lenz's law, 90 deg relationship with electromagnetic waves, einsteins formula, all are being disputed and proven to be not totaly correct.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Many presentations of these laws are skewed from what we think they might be, but there is a sound reason for 'no free lunch' that surrounds them. Like so many, they don't take into consideration 'everything' that is actually going on.

Moray's device did not run 'cold'. There was heat, just not as much as expected.

Also, there was a LOT of current involved, but big fat wires don't get very hot.

Electrical power requires current flow, electrons. Part of the definition.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Magnets can be the key as they help us manipulate energy in fun ways, but don't forget they have no inherant power. Like gravity and momentum, you have to put energy in to get it back (after losses). That's why these 'magnetic motors' don't work.

What you have is a way to tap into RF energy, and there is enough to charge small batteries, like a solar panel.

Tapping into biger power is a tougher nut to crack.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

You are mixing stuff together. Magnets are a way to

manipulate energy. They have no energy in them to

be released.

'Already in motion' is called kinetic energy. That is

what balances the forces of gravity for earth to orbit.

But, there is no energy exchange or loss involved as

mass (earth) by itself is not energy, nor is gravity, nor

is magnetism. Work must be done to generate energy,

be it nuclear, electrical, potential or kinetic .

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

All of this is really basic science.

The planets are not exchanging energy.

E = Mc^2 Energy = Mass x velocity of light squared.

In other words, the mass has to be moving. This is

called kinetic energy.

P = IE Power equals current x Voltage

In other words there must be both current and voltage to get power.

Energy is not power. You have to do something with it to get power (work) out of it. You have to put work into it before it has potential or kinetic energy.

Science 101

[henrykay01]

@JRBeaman I responded to your e-mail. E-mail me again, if you did not receive the response.

[JRBeaman]

@henrykay01

Didnt get it, retry please.

[henrykay01]

@JRBeaman If you didn't get my e-mail response (I sent it 3 times), send me another e-mail.

[JRBeaman]

@henrykay01 Your claim is too general to solicit interest of anyone with money. You will need to explain the basics of how you can support your claim. You don't need to give up any secrets in doing this, but certainly need to go further than just boasting 'I have the Cure!' to youtube viewers.

Want a good salesman? Try Obama. Look what he sold millions of people.

And he only delivered misery, generations of debt and financial loss and hundreds of broken promises.

You need more than promises

[henrykay01]

@JRBeaman If someone has the money, they can certainly afford to call me. Then I can provide some more information and we can exchange e-mails (my e-mail address is in my contact box).

[JRBeaman]

@henrykay01 I sent you an email.

[THROWSOMETHING501]

This video has EPIC FAIL written all over it....

from the circuit, spilling the fluid, to the power outage. Looks as if ALL his projects are in some state of repair. Also, it seems as if you have no background in wave propogation and resonance.

[INVENTOR3]

@THROWSOMETHING501 Well, thats a little harsh....EPIC FAIL.

not state of repair, but rather state of progress, and experimenting.

Look at video 16 and on. And well i do only have about 3 years experience in waves and resonance, and all self studies. I will keep experimenting with this circuit. and i plan on making it resonate at 7.8 this spring time. Im still learning,, arnt you?

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

You have an RF detector, ok, so what?

20 minutes of video on how to select parts from radioshack, and how to solder is not what people are looking for. Say what it is, and show schematics of the circuit. That takes three minutes. This makes you look foolish as you revel in your own experimenting, and being on camera, but provide nothing of value to most. IMHO

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Well, thousands of people have found these videos very helpful so far, and you and 1 other person felt it was to long and draged out unnessesarily. Im trying to help people with all differant levels of experience. You should see some of these soldering jobs people send me photos of. I get your point, im still learning what people want to see and dont want to see.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 A 1st grader is brilliant to any toddler. A college student is a genious to a 5th grader. The more ignorant someone is, the easier it is to amaze them, even with pure nonsense if presented correctly. Example; all the money people give to the used car salesmen with their magnetic motors, free energy, and over-unity crap. They are speaking to neophites with money, and are fooled by the presentation. Kids believe magicians tricks are actually magic too. Youtube=charlitan TV

[JRBeaman]

@JRBeaman

You can attract a crowd with almost anything.

The size of the crowd is not proportional to the truth in it.

The amazement level in what you present is in the presentation

not any of the facts or validity of what you claim to be your magic.

Sorry, but you are not an inventor, you are a discoverer.

You share your process in what you have discovered, that is a

duplication of what many many have done before, and with less

fanfare and reached the conclusions in minutes, not days.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman YES, I AM AN INVENTOR! millanyangle . com!!!

I agree that this circuit is not my discovery, well there is sonmething happening with the coil that is unexsplainable, but , yes, acctually Tesla discovered what im doing and Moray took it a step further.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Your circuit is not an invention.

Like you said above, "acctually Tesla discovered what im doing"

Which means you are a discoverer, by your own words.

Inventing, assumes you are doing something that has not been

done before.

I am in no way trying to discourage your efforts. It's kool, and fun.

Just be sure you don't go overboard on claiming that it is new, or

that you have invented a new thing.

Tapping ambient electromagnetic energy is not new, but can be fun.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Unexplained to you, maybe. But certainly very explainable.

With 500 characters here is a bit small to explain how wide and

strong the electromagnetic spectrum is, and how much power

can be tapped, depending on the circuits you use. The possibilities

are endless, and none of it is new. It is all explainable, though a

slightly different answer, depending on the circuits and conditions.

Enjoy your discovering process....

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman I understand what your saying.Yes, the more edjucated people have checked this devise out and are impressed as well, but they may only watch a few videos and just mearly wait for more info to be released on it. While other people want to learn, and im helping them to experiment, and hopefully someone brings this devise a step further, wheather they are well edjucated or not. Many times you do not need to be well edjucated , but just have a good imagination. .....

[INVENTOR3]

@INVENTOR3 When you say people dont want to know about soldering and where to get parts, that is just your oppinion. Many people have wanted to know where to get the parts, and many people have burned out components due to improper soldering techniques.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

You misunderstand.

All that is good, but to repeat it over and over for half an hour, saying the same thing again and again gets boring for anyone wanting to get to the theme of your presentation. Do a video on soldering, but not 50% of your presentation on taping into the electromagnetic energy around all of us, (mostly generated by us).

You want real power? Use a coil and tuning condenser from a portable radio and shotkey diodes and watch the voltages change as you tune it.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman o.k., i understand

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

I am sorry, but I cannot see how 'educated' people are impressed. Your circuit is a very basic AC-DC filter circuit, nothing new. You can find many similar circuits in text books. It's an inductive antenna, capacitive resonator with

two diodes creating a fullwave, center tapped converter. You are having fun seeing signals you can collect the energy from with it. That's kool, but it is hardly revolutionary. And certainly not 'amazing' to anyone with an electronics background.

[JRBeaman]

@THROWSOMETHING501

Like most critics, they focus on tangential issues because they lack the skills or knowledge to address the main point. This helps dilute the value of the point being presented without having to do any constructive work. It's always easier to tear someone down than to be constructive.

Telling him he has no experience adds no value to the discussion. Maybe you should add your knowledge instead of pointing out that you are smarter than he in this area. That's childish.

[JustinJJHCS1]

I did this By accident Because I collect Short Wave, Receiver Multi Band Radios.

One night during a thunderstorm I herd a noise like a high tension line and it was my Antenna Picking up stray EM from the Air and transmitting it down my Coaxial shielded cable and onto my desk where I had some white paper laying on the exposed end of the Cable causing this sound... this is how you make a Cristal Set with a Diode a Cristal and a Veritable resistor AM Radio.

[INVENTOR3]

HAM radio operators have this problem....picking up static elec. onto the coaxial cable. Yes you could get like 1000V.

[JustinJJHCS1]

from the wire to your circuit and meter try using coaxial cable you are getting charge bleed off.

It is called Induction.

I found that you can get Lots of voltage up into the 1000 s but almost no Amperage... I did not however use Diodes or stabilizing capacitors.

Ill try that....

but be careful you can get a Nasty Shock.

String the induction wire up on both Ends and Isolate it from the ground and then bare a coax on one end and Solder it to the Isolated Wire. good Antenna and EM Inducer.

[Fullperson]

haha, it's good that your neighbors don't freak out. They'll call the police on you over here.

Anyways, I'm interested in learning about novel devices such as yours, but I don't know where to start.

In addition, I don't like the idea of collecting static, it seems inefficient to me. I would like to see a radio device tuned to maybe gamma rays. You would get some sort of energy from resonance wouldn't you?

[INVENTOR3]

i sugest that you watch the last 3 videos "free energy from air circuit-HOW TO"

Definately not static, i belive i proved that one.

incoming frequency is above power line and below radio.

Yes, i believe i can tune the circuit yet to resonate....which should increase power many times.

Question is do i tune to incoming frequency or try to change incoming frequency to something like gamma, and then tune to it to resonate with that frequency....i will try both!

thanks for the comments.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Take a broadband reciever, and use the output to drive the transistors of a narrow band radio and you have a 'free' energy radio powered radio. Kool. But PLEASE don't drag it out into three or four videos for almost an hour.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Well the incoming frequency on the antenna only, is not in the range of radio or power lines.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

How can you say that?

Have you measured it?

Do you know what it is?

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman YES, video #7, powering a calculator and checking incoming frequency of 258KHz.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

FYI:

The current version of LORAN in common use is LORAN-C,

which operates in the low frequency portion of the Electromagnetic

spectrum from 90 to 110 kHz.

They are quite strong in some areas, as the waves follow the terrain

rather than bounce of inversion layers in the sky, or go line-of-sight

like most local stuff.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

"powering a calculator and checking incoming frequency of 258KHz"

258Khz is the resonant frequency of your circuit, not the 'signal'

frequency. Your circuit is very broad band, and the 258khz is

dependant on the circuit parameters.

I have heard excitement about 455Khz signals (about double yours,

think harmonics) only to discover that this is the 'intermediate

frequency' of most home radios internals. When they made sure

no one nearby had a radio on, it went away.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman i understand, but that frequency was just of the antenna with NO circuit attached. Yes, maybe because of the length of the antenna, it may be a harmonic of some frequency.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

"Well the incoming frequency on the antenna only, is not in the range of radio or power lines."

Uh, I beg to differ. You cannot name a spot on this planet that is

not in range of radio frequency energy. Turn on a radio and tell

me you get no stations....

It is this kind of claim that bothers me. Keep up the fun work, but

be careful making blanket statements like that.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Oh , i see, when i said it is not in range, i did not mean distance, i meant that the frequency of 258KHz is not in the band width of radio, AM starts around 526KHz,,maybe long wave of 148 to 283KHZ, but it is not allowed on this half of the planet. Sure, i could be picking up a harmonic of something, i could also be picking up energy particals that were transformed from energy that fills the cosmos

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Yeah, harmonics can make you think you have something besides

your 'design' frequency. Your apparatis is definately wideband, so I'd

say it can pick up most anything, even super low frequencies. LORAN

is most definately allowed on this hemisphere. You need to get rid of

the big caps and amplify what is there to see if you can hear anything.

Betcha it's a local radio station... :)

Your measuring device could change the resonant freq also.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Hmmmm, i have tried a small, low Ohm single ear phone speaker, just got white noise. Also someone else got a crystal speaker to beep all day long with it, but still no radio.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Gamma waves are not strong enough to collect much energy from.

They are also way above the radio frequency spectrum. Radio is

electromagnetic. Gamma and X-Ray is not.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman i agree, gamma waves, not enough energy.

i have herd this about gamma and x-rays,,but if not electromagnetic, what are they...just magnetic?

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

The life of a massive star as nuclear fusion converts lighter elements into heavier ones. When fusion no longer generates enough pressure to counteract gravity, the star rapidly collapses to form a black hole. Theoretically, energy may be released during the collapse along the axis of rotation to form a gamma-ray burst. They are the most luminous electromagnetic events occurring in the universe. Bursts can last from milliseconds to nearly an hour. Kool huh?

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Yes, I understand, Super Nova. :-)

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

What frequency to tune to?

Tune to what gives you the most power.

Use it to charge batteries. That is the

most efficient collection process.

Just finding out what frequencies are the most energetic in your area is fun too.

The possibilities are endless.

[Fullperson]

your neighbor is going to be sooo happy

[INVENTOR3]

Yes, funny.....it has become a "Thing" with the neighbors.

who evers b-day it is...they get it!

I got really cool neigbors. :-)

[DANTHETUBEMAN]

this might increas with soler flaires,,,what is the voltage at night,,,trile and eror is the best way 2 lern.

[INVENTOR3]

good question.

i have tried after sun set and same results.

[DANTHETUBEMAN]

tesla sed his varies vary slitly at nigh, the one he patened the plate with the stake in the ground. cb and raidio have sercets to get rid of what thay consider newsencs voltage. imaging a ic chip with 100thousand sercets on it.

[INVENTOR3]

interesting....i believe that the nusence voltage is created by unwanted static elec build up on coaxial cable from cb & radio.

Yes, an interesting chip!!

[8RR8R8]

Guys, plant the antena in the ground. Check in google "Stubblefield".

[INVENTOR3]

Yes, earth battery.

i may have a combination earth batery/radiant energy colector.

[stevesrd]

Kool,,its all a learning experience,,never know what you may come across. Its all possible, always has been. Just an issue of figuring it out right. Have fun and keep up the good work!

[Sebsworld2]

Most of your volts are coming from residue electrical power in your lap. Try disconnecting your power supply to your lab and see what voltage you then have. Alternatively, just move the aerial wire in relation to your lighting, and you will see the volts go up and down!

[INVENTOR3]

Hey Seb!

I will try disconecting poweer to lab, and try again to see if there is any differance.

Thanks.

[alamedvav]

Hey Inventor3 no sure but maybe Tesla says to use conductive plates or sheets. mybe try that?

[INVENTOR3]

Yes, i have tried plate...and also 18" dia sphere. I hope you watched ,my other videos...up to part 8.

sphere worked best... more surface area to it.

im getting more voltage with long antenna wire than i would with just a plate.

I believe i maybe getting more power now than tesla was.

more videos to come.

thanks for comment.

[fletcho11]

lol ,I think you are picking up radio waves, you are using a simple di pole antena , the longer the wire the higher the voltage from the radio waves ,lol ,lol how do you think you get your tv ,radio , lol 2 wires or 2 metal posts in the air ,lol look up di pol anti for cb radio ,,,,,

[INVENTOR3]

Hmmm, not the first time i herd this one.

first,... radio and t.v., and c.b. opperate on speciffic bands.

antenna lengths are designed in wavelength or 1/2 or 1/4 wavelength for the average frequencies of that band.

con't......

[INVENTOR3]

So with the millions of differant frequencies that are hitting our planet from the sun, moon, black holes, and billions of other stars and stuff out there....so what makes you so sure that im picking up those specific frequencies with my odd length of antenna wire, and even with other heights and lengths of antenna?

nearest radio station or main power lines are 14 miles away.

i like to listen, and learn new things, i hope you have good answer for me.

[INVENTOR3]

also have been checking frequencies....

higher my antenna, more voltage...longer the wire, more current. frequencies are differant with every set up i do...i can add a coil between antenna and circuit and get more voltage and less current and completely differant frequenciy again. My frequncies are not in the radio band width.

and i check the frequencies at AC...before i attach my circuit.

[boxa888]

yes so right man! thanks for updating me on this !

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Off world stuff is very weak compared to the RF pollution we generate.

Tap that, and charge your batteries.

Longer wire, or higher antenna just puts your 'collector' in the path

of more radio waves.

ENJOY!

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Thanks. Im just wondering, what do you think about Dr Moray's devise?..What do you think it was picking up?

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 Oh gawd, Moray. He invented the solid state diode in the 30's. Poor guy was harrassed almost to death. Read up on the death ray. I don't have details, but is sounds like a microwave gun.. Fried mice internals at 50 feet. Morays energy collector was the power source. He dealt in ultra high frequencies. Your circuit would look like a block of lead to that. The Communist-infiltrated R.E.A tried to get his stuff turned over to the russians. He died in 74. His son still works on it.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Yes, i know all this. It was Tesla that first made the raygun, yes fried mice and birds, i agree that it was a micrawave gun. I herd that Morays family has in recent years now stoped re-aplying the patent for application, because they can not prove where the energy is coming from. I think Tom Bearden and group replicated his devise succesfuly.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

The problem with all this is there was no definitive description of the source of the energy, only vague descriptions and assumptions. Like looking at a car crash and guessing what happened. They may have tapped into 'something', but no one seems to be able to state what that something is. I think it's 'out there', but have never seen 'what' they are capturing. It's there, but what is is? Good question. Permanent Magnets were not part of their apparatus to my knowledge.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman

Im sure there are lots of unknown/unseen particals out there just waiting to be discovered. It would be foolish to think we discovered them all. Yes he used either 1 u shaped magnet or 2 bar magnets, dont quite remember, but then he would rub another magnet across the ends to prime/pump start his devise.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 I have a few theories about both Tesla and Moray. I believe the earth also has an EM field we could tap. There is a big magnetic motor running in her. We only need to tap the field. I think it is near 50- 60 hz. The other end of the spectrum. Moray and Tesla were dealing with lethal voltages, and huge energy components. Way beyond what us backyard tinkerers could deal with on our budgets. I like the earth magnetic loop collector idea. Low voltage high current battery chargers.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Yes, the earth has a EMF flowing through it, absolutely tappable.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

At 400 years per cycle, I think the frequency of 'our earth motor' is a bit low

for simple circuits to tap. It would be easier to tap the moon (30 days).

The 'devices of interest I have seen is collecting static (lightning type).

There is a LOT of energy there.

Another observation is the heavy mass, thick wire devices, indicating a

low frequency.

I think the secret is real high, or real low, and not in the area of our

radio waves at all.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 Tesla tamed lightning. Moray tapped ultra high frequencies. Both believed we have free energy around us. I agree. Commercial viability is questionable. Small scale units for individuals? Very do-able. Solar and wind are good too, but pricey. Your circuit is the right idea as a collector, but I believe you are way off on the frequency. Needs to be more broadband so you can capture the energy of all those 50,000 watt transmitters all around us. Maybe one loop per station? summed?

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman i have been looking at a circuit that can recieve all frequencies :-)

but i really want the energy that Moray was collecting, not sucking energy from power lines and radio stations. I dont think there is any comparison to the energy that we are putting out there from frequencies, compared to the energy that holds our planets in orbit, or also same energy that makes the planets form.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

I am sure that all frequencies have been scanned looking for a 'magic' value to be tapped. Maybe Moray found a way, but most of what I have seen in his apparratus is high frequency, high energy, voltage doublers. 'what' he is capturing is not magnet-power, nor gravity waves IMHO.

The force that holds our planets is gravity, Energy to form planets is results

of many events, mostly nucular. Electric motors, magnets and radio waves

are not part of this at all. Different subjects.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3 What frequency?

There is an old saying.

How long is a piece of string?

You are fishing, and getting the basic idea to collect RF and try to use the power to do work. Admirable, but not a lot of tappable energy in the RF band, High, or low unless you tune for each signal seperately for maximum efficiency, then sum them together. Do the energy calculations as the power goes down as the square of the distance and your thin angle of reception on a omnidirectional source is pretty small.

[JRBeaman]

@JRBeaman Dam 500 char limit.

Anyway, the long wire antenna sees a bigger piece, but has it's drawbacks.

Smaller more reactive devices down to 6 inches can get you more power

with fewer drawbacks, such as lightning strikes, neighbor complaints, etc.

Your project is a study on the circuit you have.

It is one of dozen of the circuits that are needed to get you

where you are trying to go. You need to do some circuit analysis on its parts.

the 4 caps and the antenna are the resonant part...

[JRBeaman]

@JRBeaman

The diodes are the 'detector' part, and the big caps are the storage part.

Try 4 diodes. you will get double the energy out.

Replace the 4 caps with a variable cap.

I can draw, and send you a better circuit if you want.

[JRBeaman]

@JRBeaman

Try this for better energy response:

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[JRBeaman]

@JRBeaman

replace "dot" with a "."

replace the "slash" with a "/"

and put all on one line.

Kinda crude, spur of the moment thing.

Let me know what you think.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman I understand

[AdminOnDuty]

Glad to hear you got the insulation clear of the circuit. The one thing I notice is that your running your wire like a twin axial line. This arrangement is known for creating magnetic cancellation in the wire. Moray used 70' of wire in a dipole configuration. Say 35' W and 35' E with a separation between. One pole (Say E) was + and the other (W) was attached to a ground rod driven 7' in the ground. His receiver was then attached to + and - . You can also use a loop config running around the yard

[AdminOnDuty]

I think you will like to watch these 3 lectures: #26,27 & 28

watch?v=AuYFcjBmMJ0&feature=Se­riesPlayList&p=C2CEECFD938FD49­4&index=26

Especially the last 4 minutes of #28 - it deals with dipole polarization.

Cheers.

[INVENTOR3]

cool, thanks...i will have to watch more of this.

i did watch the last 10 min of #28...very, very interesting!! So im receiving my frequencies from the cosmos...so i need to make antenna parallel...so, maybe best to have antenna straight up pole.

yes, i will have to watch more of this guy.,.,thanks.

[INVENTOR3]

Good to hear from you.

Magnetic cancellation...hmm did not think of that. It is only one antenna wire. starts at board, goes to tree, around branch and back to opposite side of board and down into corner of lab. Loop config sounds interesting.

[INVENTOR3]

***ATTENTION***

SET-UP DOES WORK!!! IT WAS A LONG DAY THAT DAY, SPILLED FERRO FLUID ON ME, AND POWER FAILURE, THAT WAS JUST A COINCEDENT.

ANYHOW...I FORGOT 1 SMALL VERY IMPORTANT DETAIL, TO STRIP THE VARNISH COATING FROM THE END OF THE ANTENNA, WHERE I ATTACH THE CIRCUIT.

I GOT 7.1V DC AND 340. MICRO AMPS, MAYBE MORE, I HAVE TO CHECK OVER CURRENT FUSES IN DMM.

i BELIEVE I CAN RUN 30 CALCULATORS NOW. i WILL NOW TRY AN ADDITIONAL TALL POLE SET UP ALSO, AND TRY COAXIAL CABLE, AND DEEPER GROUND

[AlienNRG]

Find someone who has a large barn with a tin roof to use as your "antenna". You should love the results. Don't forget the copper rod/pipe ground.

[Can101276]

The Tesla patents list a shiny insulated metal plate as the antenna tip, a straight wire with no loops or turns as the antenna wire, leading to an induction coil, to a sparkgap and to ground.

But even with the setup that you have shown here you should get way more than 1/4 volt, I can get 3/4 volt with a nail some copper wire, one square of toilet paper and some water...

[INVENTOR3]

SET UP WORKS!! READ NEW COMMENTS.

i dont believe that Teslas devise made that much voltage, and took a long time for it to generate each spark. I will look mainly to Dr Morays devise...Tesla was his idol also.

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

This goes to my suggestion that you are picking up radio waves

from many local sources, all mixed together. When you add a reactive element, such as a coil, your voltage will go up, and your current will go down. That is because you have selected a narrower frequency band to collect the stray electromagnetic waves from.

The background noise, like tesla' measured, is way lower energy level than

our radio waves, or AC power. Of course yours is higher. That's why.

[INVENTOR3]

@JRBeaman Hmmm, maybe plausable to b picking up a mixture of frequencies.

Maybe interesting to know that the coil made voltage rise from like 24V to 125V and the current barely went down at all, there was almost No trade off. That was the surprising thing.

[Stormrunner0002]

Keep it positive bud.

Remember that the charge you get depends on the charge in the air. The day you tested just may have been a low charge day.

You may also do better if you just litzed the two wires into one and put an insulatoer at the tree rather than going around a sap filled branch.

Keep it up man, looks like you are doing some interesting things out there.

[INVENTOR3]

Hmm, i will have to start writing down the humidity levels.

yes, insulator at tree.

I keep thinking there is a way to use the tree as the antenna and ground.

thanks for comments.

[afdhalatifftan92]

Good to see you back!!

Hey, I tried your circuit using some normal diodes...

I'm getting 1 volt per day in the capacitor...

Am I doing something wrong??

Love your lab!!

Thanks for your advice...

[INVENTOR3]

what kind of antenna set up do you have again...

I will be doing a lot of testing with antenna set-ups now.

I may have to construck another tall pole, made from PVC pipes. Material of pole may make a differance...Hmm, pole in ground or on top of ground, will this make a differance. too be cont.

[afdhalatifftan92]

Thanks for replying...

I currently using a 4 foot normal radio antenna (from a car)...

I place it on my table... LOL!!

Did the antenna height count?

And, did I really need to use the germanium diodes??

Thanks again!!

[INVENTOR3]

this set up should get you some results, i tried car antenna also, i got better results with a 6 foot long wire though. Use double circuit design and ground also.

i have used germanium and zeener, but i have not tried regular silicon based diode, i can not say how they work.

car antenna is designed to pick up an exact frequency band width..so i would not be able to say that you are picking up power from the cosmos , but rather only power from radio station.

[afdhalatifftan92]

Thanx for da fast reply...

[JRBeaman]

@INVENTOR3

Car radio antenna by itself is not 'exact' as it pickups both AM and FM bands.

It has to do with the tuning you use along with it. You can tune almost any

antenna to any frequency within it's range, as 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 or full wave, or

double and triple, etc. because of 'propagation' issues, the antenna is

usually just under the wave length for optimum signal strength.

Grounding, and termination issues effect it all more than you would think.

[JRBeaman]

@afdhalatifftan92

Germanium diodes need less voltage to pass current, so your losses

will be less. Silicon diodes take about twice that of a germanium,

about .6V, to start conducting. Your capacitors voltages will be the

accumulated over a period of time but will never quite reach the peak

voltage of what your circuit sees. Think of them as miniature batteries.

If you tap into stronger waves, the diode type won't matter as much.

[afdhalatifftan92]

@JRBeaman

Thanks for the informative post!

Now I get it, its the forward voltage drop matters...

Just found it on some electronic forum.

Thanks again!!