Hey David Jamison, I was at your church Sunday and Kenneth is still staying negative things about Bishop Johnson and Bishop Shelton. If he has to preface his comments by saying, "I am not putting them down" then it stands to reason he should not say anything about them. He has nothing but negative things to say about the previous Bishops. By the way, the message he preached was stolen from Charles Stanley. He was not called by God to preach and it shows.
If you don't believe that Jesus Christ is the mighty God and the fullness of the Godhead in flesh, then as the scripture says, ye shall die in your sins. Many today are departing from the faith, but God is continuing to preserve the Church that holds fast to Apostolic truth.
and the term "God the Son" is NEVER in the Bible.... Read the "Oneness of God" by David K Bernard, or look up some of David Bernard's debates on youtube. This doctrine is so flawed.
@Apostolic4lyfee Everyone can naysay, but won't provide scripture for what is wrong at 22nd, not a rule book, but the Scripture. They just talk about the changes, and how things don't look like they used to, or they're lost. Please - give the scriptures for where we're lost. We have grown in knowledge and therefore we act as such. Dancing, big deal. King David danced. You know there is a time to dance, and be merry. We're happy at 22nd. Wish you were happy in Jesus Name as well.
@LylaRenee The girls were wearing cleavage bearing, tight, short dresses... Believe what you want about a "dress code" (I don't think a dress code is scriptural) however that seems to be very contrary to 1 Timothy 2:9. I am not arguing about dancing, but rather the attire the "saints" wore. I'm not going to judge b/c I don't know what kind of music was playing but from the pictures it looked nothing short of a public school dance.
@Apostolic4lyfee Well listen, cleavage bearing, tight short dresses, that stuff is legislative and has nothing to do with whether or not the Word is being taught.
@LylaRenee Grown in knowledge? Omega Shelton no longer believes baptism in Jesus' name is for the remission of sins-That is flat out contrary to scripture. Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Romans 6:4. Baptism is how the blood of Jesus' is applied to a believers heart. He no longer preaches that speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:4, Acts 2:39, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 10:44-45, Acts 19:4-6.
@Apostolic4lyfee I have never seen so many people tell us what WE do and don't believe and yet have not been there. Bishop Omega has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER said that baptism in Jesus' name for the remission of sin is no longer a requirement. As a matter of fact, if that were the case, there would be no one getting baptized, however people still are. That is just a complete untruth. Baptism of the SPIRIT is how the blood of Jesus is applied to a believers heart. Not the baptism of water!
@LylaRenee I called your church and spoke to an elder and a sister from the church.... I asked if ya'll believe that Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for the remission of sins and if it is a requirement for salvation. Your elder told me ya'll believe we are simply saved by grace through faith (which is true in the right context) and that baptism is NOT a requirement, and does not wash away sins (like the Bible states).
@Apostolic4lyfee On the day of Pentecost, speaking in tongues, along with a mighty rushing wind, along with cloven tongues like as of fire were all INITIAL evidence of The Comforter that Jesus said He would send. But now that it is sent, there is no need for that Evidence. That evidence was to show unbelievers that God was working with the 120 souls.
@LylaRenee The Rushing mighty wind did not happen when the Gentiles received the Holy Ghost, or the Ephesians... BUT THE SPEAKING IN TONGUES DID! Read your Word :D
@LylaRenee Then why did the evidence of speaking in tongues occur to the Gentiles and the Ephesians? Your theory is flawed. The Ephesians received the Holy Ghost 20 years after the Day of Pentecost and it happened the SAME WAY!
@LylaRenee The Bible makes it clear that receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is a distinct experience separate from repentance and Baptism in Jesus' name. AKA-You do not receive the Holy Ghost as soon as you believe the gospel (Acts 8:14-17. How can you claim to grow in grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ when you don't even have the basics?
@LylaRenee You are correct in saying that the word "rapture" is never in the Bible, but I do not use the word rapture. The difference is, Jesus is not God the Son! There is no scriptural evidence that there are 3 separate, coequal persons in the Godhead. Colossians 2:9 says it all! "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" Jesus Christ is the human MANIFESTATION of God Almighty.
@Apostolic4lyfee Ummm- let me just call your attention to the fact that you just said the same thing. Your statement just says God the Son in more words. Jesus(you say: "the human manifestation of God Almighty".) Wasn't He God manifested as the son? Which does = God the Son. You say there is no scriptural evidence that there are 3 separate, coequal persons in the Godhead, Really? I'll give you the scripture reference in another post.
@LylaRenee Do ya'll believe in the Trinity now or what? The trinity states that God is eternally present as 3 persons of co equal power and authority: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Oneness says that God has manifested Himself in 3 ways, and that the Son WAS subordinate to the Father as the Bible says. The Son is now exalted and God manifests Himself through the Son. Not 2 different persons, but 2 different modes or offices of God.
@Apostolic4lyfee I John 5:7 says For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. That would mean there are three coequal entities in the Godhead. I didn't say persons. That is scripture...yet they are still one. You have a limited mind, but my God is LIMITLESS and does not fit into the minds of mere men. I know God is ONE, I also know His son is sitting next to him in Heaven. Ask Him how it is so.
@LylaRenee OK first of all, are you aware that that Scripture is not in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible? Whenever the Board who translated the KJV version of the Bible was putting the Word together, a man found 1 manuscript that was dated much later than the original ones that contained the statement "There are 3 that bear record in Heaven: The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one."
@LylaRenee The person who was in charge of the translation did not wish to include it because it was not originally there, but he was bribed. EVERY SINGLE manuscript said "For there are three that testify:t he[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." If you look at EVERY other translation of the Bible besides the KJV, this is what they state. The KJV is not perfect, in fact
@LylaRenee No translation in English is perfect. The original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, are though. That verse sounds to me a lot like Acts 2:38, huh? The Spirit, the water, and the blood! I'm telling you the whole Bible connects when rightly divided. Most historians think the person who rewrote that scripture was trying to teach a lesson on the trinity, and they give no credit to it
@LylaRenee If you look up 1 John 5:7 on the website Biblegateway, this is the footnote that it has on every translation: 1 John 5:8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century) Know your history and your Word my friend.
@LylaRenee You are the one with the limited mind because you are selling out to false doctrine that was invented by the Catholic Church. NO Early Christians believe that there were 3 co equal entities in the Godhead... That is another history lesson, though. It would do you good to read up on some Epistles from Church Fathers such as Tertullion and Clement from Alexandria.
@LylaRenee and I'm very happy :D It just grieves my soul to see such a great organization go down the tubes. Again, I am not a member of one of the "Whole Truth" churches that split off of ya'll. I don't go to a church that forces women to wear cotton stockings and hairnets. But I do go to a church where the gospel is not compromised.
@Apostolic4lyfee Down the tubes? Wow, Meaning we have more understanding, and because of that we do things differently. It shouldn't grieve your soul to see people grow in grace and knowledge. And if you feel we are so wrong, then why aren't you praying for us rather than downing us. Trust me your gospel is compromised, you stated that Jesus is not God the Son, but then said that Jesus is the human manifestation of God...yet you don't realize that is the same thing.
@Apostolic4lyfee The term "rapture" is not in the bible, but we believers will be "caught up" in the air with Christ when he calls for us. The exact term does not have to be there, for something to mean the same thing. Things are looked at so one dimensional by those who take issue with us, but they are still on milk, while we have moved on to meat! We read the Bible, we worship and praise God, but folks turn a blind eye to that. Since you are so peturbed by words, God the Son = Jesus.
@Apostolic4lyfee How is it that you can use books by men who are not in the Bible to say what is or isn't in the scripture? Just think of how rediculous that sounds. I'm not here to debate with you but I just want you to know that no matter what you have studied it will get you nowhere unless you learn to love. Posting hateful comments about the leader of a flock is not a show of love. Think about it.
@JamisonDavid1 The KJV Bible is NOT perfect... When compared with the original manuscripts, it is very close but there are some differences. The scripture in 1 John being one of them. I have learned recently that I need to back away from internet debates because they do absolutely nothing. I think if we were having this conversation face to face it would have gone over completely differently... I will say, that I do know how to love and I do show love. I didn't post any hateful comments
@Apostolic4lyfee Sir, if you are really convinced that what Bishop Omega is preaching is not scripturally sound then you should talk civilly with him because the big picture is salvation, not who is right or wrong. I've also read your other posts and they are not accurate in regard to what is being preached but if you feel so strongly about it preaching against him to his flock over the internet is not the way. You won't win anybody over that way. I'll pray for you.
@JamisonDavid1 I've called the church before and attempted to talk to him and simply ask questions... not challenge or anything, and I was only allowed to speak with an Elder because apparently my call was not important enough.
@Apostolic4lyfee Maybe the call was deligated to an elder because that person is equipt to answer your questions, not because you are not important. Every soul is important but we can't think that we are automatically going to be placed at the top of Bishop Omega's priority list. He has a family and a huge congregation. Next time give the elder a chance and be patient but most of all don't attack our messenger. God bless you and I hope that you get what you're looking for.
@JamisonDavid1 The answer I got was that baptism is not necessary for salvation... Now I don't know if that's what you understand ya'lls teaching to be or not, but since that's what an elder told me I believed that to be the teachings of the church hahaha. Anyways, God bless you too.
@JamisonDavid1 but the Lord Jesus Christ Himself called out false leaders... I am VERY familiar with this organization, and I believe that Bishop Omega has corrupted the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ with false teachings. That is my opinion... I am not saying I hate Bishop Omega.
To say the only legacy Bishop Johnson had was building buildings is sickly arrogant. Bishop J did NOT preach against the Son of God.... He did not deny the Son of God. Kenneth Shelton is sadly misinformed, and he is a weak man for not preaching truth. He is so arrogant. BTW-I'm not a Johnsonite, I am UPCI.
@Apostolic4lyfee When he referred to Bishop Johnson being a builder, he did not say building buildings. His referral to BJ building was to say that he laid a foundation and helped to shape an organization. I can not understand for the life of me, why if you believe one to have the knowledge over another, it means downing the other. I believe what you "think" is the truth has you blinded to the TRUE Word of God. BTW: I am a Christ Believer.
@LylaRenee 22nd and Bainbridge is so far gone, and ya'll who are still there don't even realize it. I've seen pictures of the dance at the Youth Conference... smh. God will not be mocked. Think what you will. BTW: I am a Christ FOLLOWER. "If ye love me ye will keep my commandments." Ya'lls young people don't even know what the gift of the Holy Ghost is. It's a sad day.
@Apostolic4lyfee The ENTIRE church - not just the youth have a better understanding of the Word, not rules or rule books. Where there is no sin there is no condemnation. The rule book may state that something is Sin, but if God's Word does NOT - then there is NO Sin, regardless of what was thought or taught. Our youth know exactly what the Holy Ghost is, it is what Jesus left for us when He ascendended into heaven and it is not what you call "the speaking of tongues."
@LylaRenee The Holy Ghost is not speaking in tongues; I never said that. Speaking in tongues is the initial physical evidence of receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. The gift of diverse kinds of tongues is a Spirit induced phenomenon in which a saint relays a prophetic message given by God in an unknown tongue, with an interpretation. Do either of these happen at your church? How come when a youth from your church was asked if she had received the Holy Ghost she said "I don't know."?
@Apostolic4lyfee The gift is tongues is not for every individual, does a mighty rushing wind, and cloven tongues like as of a fire currently happen at your church? I think not! I can not speak for that youth who did not know, but what I can say is that she was obviously honest. It is not for me to claim who has the Holy Ghost and who doesn't. I can only confirm my belief in Christ Jesus and my Holy Ghost. We all have to get this understanding for ourselves. Don't you agree?
@LylaRenee Just a question, do people ever speak in tongues at 22nd and Bainbridge? Does it ever happen with an interpretation?
Those were manifestations of the Spirit, not the manifestation of the INDWELLING of the Spirit. Read where the Gentiles had the Holy Ghost poured out on them. The Bible says that the Jews knew they had received the Holy Ghost because they heard them speak in tongues as on the Day of Pentecost. It's Bible!
have had him and the countless lessons that he taught us as a family.........He and my grandmother were married over sixty years (she is at 5:05) They lived their lives for the Lord and tried to lead us all in that same tradition.........May God bless his soul.......a very wise and upright man.....Willie Jonah Bailey. Than the Lord for his life (as the pastor said).
as just coming to understand things in my elder years, i can say that we as men always look for something to discredit someone that's doing God's work. It happened in the days of Christ, and continues today. The man that he is speaking of (in the picture) was my grandfather....Truly the best man that I have ever known in my lifetime......if you had a chance to know him you would understand that he never spoke a malicious word about another person...Thank the Lord for him. I am so blessed to
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His preaching/teaching is extremely condescending, and his need to overly clarify himself clearly shows his insecurity. It also appears that most of his members are over the age of 99, which means after they all die off within the next 5 years the entire church will be empty due to his inability to properly connect to people with love, his insecurity prevents him from working at his full potential. To say the least hes a very intelligent and educated man.
First of all, isn't a preacher also a teacher? So teachers have to overly clarify. Isn't it better to be fully understood than to try to appear intelligent? In Bishop's words, it is better to speak three words and be understood than to speak a thousnd words that mean nothing. And about the age of the members, thats untrue. The church does have a large group of elders, but the church is not dying off. The youth group is huge, probably about 60% of the church's overall population.
@marcusville912 It appears that you are sadly mistaken. I'm sure that if you're a know it all and understand every bit of scripture his style may seem condescending but when you have souls at stake you have to be as clear as possible. If that means running the food through a food processor begore it's served then so be it. Some people need that. I don't believe Bishop Omega is trying to tear anybody down he's just making sure that his point is understood.
Hey David Jamison, I was at your church Sunday and Kenneth is still staying negative things about Bishop Johnson and Bishop Shelton. If he has to preface his comments by saying, "I am not putting them down" then it stands to reason he should not say anything about them. He has nothing but negative things to say about the previous Bishops. By the way, the message he preached was stolen from Charles Stanley. He was not called by God to preach and it shows.
Tranquil606 9 months ago
see him in the flesh??? Hmmm what flesh? THis man is not sent and is a liar.
NoSuchThingAsTrinity 9 months ago
"For if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins." John 8:24
"Before Abraham was, I am" John 8:58
If you don't believe that Jesus Christ is the mighty God and the fullness of the Godhead in flesh, then as the scripture says, ye shall die in your sins. Many today are departing from the faith, but God is continuing to preserve the Church that holds fast to Apostolic truth.
kclee4jc 1 year ago
and the term "God the Son" is NEVER in the Bible.... Read the "Oneness of God" by David K Bernard, or look up some of David Bernard's debates on youtube. This doctrine is so flawed.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Everyone can naysay, but won't provide scripture for what is wrong at 22nd, not a rule book, but the Scripture. They just talk about the changes, and how things don't look like they used to, or they're lost. Please - give the scriptures for where we're lost. We have grown in knowledge and therefore we act as such. Dancing, big deal. King David danced. You know there is a time to dance, and be merry. We're happy at 22nd. Wish you were happy in Jesus Name as well.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee The girls were wearing cleavage bearing, tight, short dresses... Believe what you want about a "dress code" (I don't think a dress code is scriptural) however that seems to be very contrary to 1 Timothy 2:9. I am not arguing about dancing, but rather the attire the "saints" wore. I'm not going to judge b/c I don't know what kind of music was playing but from the pictures it looked nothing short of a public school dance.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Well listen, cleavage bearing, tight short dresses, that stuff is legislative and has nothing to do with whether or not the Word is being taught.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee Grown in knowledge? Omega Shelton no longer believes baptism in Jesus' name is for the remission of sins-That is flat out contrary to scripture. Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Romans 6:4. Baptism is how the blood of Jesus' is applied to a believers heart. He no longer preaches that speaking in tongues is the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:4, Acts 2:39, Acts 8:14-17, Acts 10:44-45, Acts 19:4-6.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee I have never seen so many people tell us what WE do and don't believe and yet have not been there. Bishop Omega has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER said that baptism in Jesus' name for the remission of sin is no longer a requirement. As a matter of fact, if that were the case, there would be no one getting baptized, however people still are. That is just a complete untruth. Baptism of the SPIRIT is how the blood of Jesus is applied to a believers heart. Not the baptism of water!
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee I called your church and spoke to an elder and a sister from the church.... I asked if ya'll believe that Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for the remission of sins and if it is a requirement for salvation. Your elder told me ya'll believe we are simply saved by grace through faith (which is true in the right context) and that baptism is NOT a requirement, and does not wash away sins (like the Bible states).
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee On the day of Pentecost, speaking in tongues, along with a mighty rushing wind, along with cloven tongues like as of fire were all INITIAL evidence of The Comforter that Jesus said He would send. But now that it is sent, there is no need for that Evidence. That evidence was to show unbelievers that God was working with the 120 souls.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee The Rushing mighty wind did not happen when the Gentiles received the Holy Ghost, or the Ephesians... BUT THE SPEAKING IN TONGUES DID! Read your Word :D
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee Then why did the evidence of speaking in tongues occur to the Gentiles and the Ephesians? Your theory is flawed. The Ephesians received the Holy Ghost 20 years after the Day of Pentecost and it happened the SAME WAY!
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee The Bible makes it clear that receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is a distinct experience separate from repentance and Baptism in Jesus' name. AKA-You do not receive the Holy Ghost as soon as you believe the gospel (Acts 8:14-17. How can you claim to grow in grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ when you don't even have the basics?
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee You are correct in saying that the word "rapture" is never in the Bible, but I do not use the word rapture. The difference is, Jesus is not God the Son! There is no scriptural evidence that there are 3 separate, coequal persons in the Godhead. Colossians 2:9 says it all! "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" Jesus Christ is the human MANIFESTATION of God Almighty.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Ummm- let me just call your attention to the fact that you just said the same thing. Your statement just says God the Son in more words. Jesus(you say: "the human manifestation of God Almighty".) Wasn't He God manifested as the son? Which does = God the Son. You say there is no scriptural evidence that there are 3 separate, coequal persons in the Godhead, Really? I'll give you the scripture reference in another post.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee Do ya'll believe in the Trinity now or what? The trinity states that God is eternally present as 3 persons of co equal power and authority: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Oneness says that God has manifested Himself in 3 ways, and that the Son WAS subordinate to the Father as the Bible says. The Son is now exalted and God manifests Himself through the Son. Not 2 different persons, but 2 different modes or offices of God.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
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@Apostolic4lyfee I John 5:7 says For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. That would mean there are three coequal entities in the Godhead. I didn't say persons. That is scripture...yet they are still one. You have a limited mind, but my God is LIMITLESS and does not fit into the minds of mere men. I know God is ONE, I also know His son is sitting next to him in Heaven. Ask Him how it is so.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee OK first of all, are you aware that that Scripture is not in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible? Whenever the Board who translated the KJV version of the Bible was putting the Word together, a man found 1 manuscript that was dated much later than the original ones that contained the statement "There are 3 that bear record in Heaven: The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one."
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee The person who was in charge of the translation did not wish to include it because it was not originally there, but he was bribed. EVERY SINGLE manuscript said "For there are three that testify:t he[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." If you look at EVERY other translation of the Bible besides the KJV, this is what they state. The KJV is not perfect, in fact
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee No translation in English is perfect. The original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, are though. That verse sounds to me a lot like Acts 2:38, huh? The Spirit, the water, and the blood! I'm telling you the whole Bible connects when rightly divided. Most historians think the person who rewrote that scripture was trying to teach a lesson on the trinity, and they give no credit to it
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee If you look up 1 John 5:7 on the website Biblegateway, this is the footnote that it has on every translation: 1 John 5:8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century) Know your history and your Word my friend.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee You are the one with the limited mind because you are selling out to false doctrine that was invented by the Catholic Church. NO Early Christians believe that there were 3 co equal entities in the Godhead... That is another history lesson, though. It would do you good to read up on some Epistles from Church Fathers such as Tertullion and Clement from Alexandria.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee and I'm very happy :D It just grieves my soul to see such a great organization go down the tubes. Again, I am not a member of one of the "Whole Truth" churches that split off of ya'll. I don't go to a church that forces women to wear cotton stockings and hairnets. But I do go to a church where the gospel is not compromised.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Down the tubes? Wow, Meaning we have more understanding, and because of that we do things differently. It shouldn't grieve your soul to see people grow in grace and knowledge. And if you feel we are so wrong, then why aren't you praying for us rather than downing us. Trust me your gospel is compromised, you stated that Jesus is not God the Son, but then said that Jesus is the human manifestation of God...yet you don't realize that is the same thing.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee The term "rapture" is not in the bible, but we believers will be "caught up" in the air with Christ when he calls for us. The exact term does not have to be there, for something to mean the same thing. Things are looked at so one dimensional by those who take issue with us, but they are still on milk, while we have moved on to meat! We read the Bible, we worship and praise God, but folks turn a blind eye to that. Since you are so peturbed by words, God the Son = Jesus.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Okay- some are just impenetrable.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee Sorry that you can't accept the Truth of the Word. Good luck following false doctrines constructed by the Catholic Church.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee How is it that you can use books by men who are not in the Bible to say what is or isn't in the scripture? Just think of how rediculous that sounds. I'm not here to debate with you but I just want you to know that no matter what you have studied it will get you nowhere unless you learn to love. Posting hateful comments about the leader of a flock is not a show of love. Think about it.
JamisonDavid1 1 year ago
@JamisonDavid1 The KJV Bible is NOT perfect... When compared with the original manuscripts, it is very close but there are some differences. The scripture in 1 John being one of them. I have learned recently that I need to back away from internet debates because they do absolutely nothing. I think if we were having this conversation face to face it would have gone over completely differently... I will say, that I do know how to love and I do show love. I didn't post any hateful comments
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Sir, if you are really convinced that what Bishop Omega is preaching is not scripturally sound then you should talk civilly with him because the big picture is salvation, not who is right or wrong. I've also read your other posts and they are not accurate in regard to what is being preached but if you feel so strongly about it preaching against him to his flock over the internet is not the way. You won't win anybody over that way. I'll pray for you.
JamisonDavid1 1 year ago
@JamisonDavid1 I've called the church before and attempted to talk to him and simply ask questions... not challenge or anything, and I was only allowed to speak with an Elder because apparently my call was not important enough.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee Maybe the call was deligated to an elder because that person is equipt to answer your questions, not because you are not important. Every soul is important but we can't think that we are automatically going to be placed at the top of Bishop Omega's priority list. He has a family and a huge congregation. Next time give the elder a chance and be patient but most of all don't attack our messenger. God bless you and I hope that you get what you're looking for.
JamisonDavid1 1 year ago
@JamisonDavid1 The answer I got was that baptism is not necessary for salvation... Now I don't know if that's what you understand ya'lls teaching to be or not, but since that's what an elder told me I believed that to be the teachings of the church hahaha. Anyways, God bless you too.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@JamisonDavid1 but the Lord Jesus Christ Himself called out false leaders... I am VERY familiar with this organization, and I believe that Bishop Omega has corrupted the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ with false teachings. That is my opinion... I am not saying I hate Bishop Omega.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
To say the only legacy Bishop Johnson had was building buildings is sickly arrogant. Bishop J did NOT preach against the Son of God.... He did not deny the Son of God. Kenneth Shelton is sadly misinformed, and he is a weak man for not preaching truth. He is so arrogant. BTW-I'm not a Johnsonite, I am UPCI.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee When he referred to Bishop Johnson being a builder, he did not say building buildings. His referral to BJ building was to say that he laid a foundation and helped to shape an organization. I can not understand for the life of me, why if you believe one to have the knowledge over another, it means downing the other. I believe what you "think" is the truth has you blinded to the TRUE Word of God. BTW: I am a Christ Believer.
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee 22nd and Bainbridge is so far gone, and ya'll who are still there don't even realize it. I've seen pictures of the dance at the Youth Conference... smh. God will not be mocked. Think what you will. BTW: I am a Christ FOLLOWER. "If ye love me ye will keep my commandments." Ya'lls young people don't even know what the gift of the Holy Ghost is. It's a sad day.
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee The ENTIRE church - not just the youth have a better understanding of the Word, not rules or rule books. Where there is no sin there is no condemnation. The rule book may state that something is Sin, but if God's Word does NOT - then there is NO Sin, regardless of what was thought or taught. Our youth know exactly what the Holy Ghost is, it is what Jesus left for us when He ascendended into heaven and it is not what you call "the speaking of tongues."
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee The Holy Ghost is not speaking in tongues; I never said that. Speaking in tongues is the initial physical evidence of receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. The gift of diverse kinds of tongues is a Spirit induced phenomenon in which a saint relays a prophetic message given by God in an unknown tongue, with an interpretation. Do either of these happen at your church? How come when a youth from your church was asked if she had received the Holy Ghost she said "I don't know."?
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
@Apostolic4lyfee The gift is tongues is not for every individual, does a mighty rushing wind, and cloven tongues like as of a fire currently happen at your church? I think not! I can not speak for that youth who did not know, but what I can say is that she was obviously honest. It is not for me to claim who has the Holy Ghost and who doesn't. I can only confirm my belief in Christ Jesus and my Holy Ghost. We all have to get this understanding for ourselves. Don't you agree?
LylaRenee 1 year ago
@LylaRenee Just a question, do people ever speak in tongues at 22nd and Bainbridge? Does it ever happen with an interpretation?
Those were manifestations of the Spirit, not the manifestation of the INDWELLING of the Spirit. Read where the Gentiles had the Holy Ghost poured out on them. The Bible says that the Jews knew they had received the Holy Ghost because they heard them speak in tongues as on the Day of Pentecost. It's Bible!
Apostolic4lyfee 1 year ago
Bishop Omega's legacy stands for itself. He is a true warrior of God. He has taught me more about Christianity, than I ever knew before I met him.
Tenor4Christ 2 years ago
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musikalfiend1 2 years ago
have had him and the countless lessons that he taught us as a family.........He and my grandmother were married over sixty years (she is at 5:05) They lived their lives for the Lord and tried to lead us all in that same tradition.........May God bless his soul.......a very wise and upright man.....Willie Jonah Bailey. Than the Lord for his life (as the pastor said).
musikalfiend1 2 years ago
as just coming to understand things in my elder years, i can say that we as men always look for something to discredit someone that's doing God's work. It happened in the days of Christ, and continues today. The man that he is speaking of (in the picture) was my grandfather....Truly the best man that I have ever known in my lifetime......if you had a chance to know him you would understand that he never spoke a malicious word about another person...Thank the Lord for him. I am so blessed to
musikalfiend1 2 years ago
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His preaching/teaching is extremely condescending, and his need to overly clarify himself clearly shows his insecurity. It also appears that most of his members are over the age of 99, which means after they all die off within the next 5 years the entire church will be empty due to his inability to properly connect to people with love, his insecurity prevents him from working at his full potential. To say the least hes a very intelligent and educated man.
marcusville912 2 years ago
First of all, isn't a preacher also a teacher? So teachers have to overly clarify. Isn't it better to be fully understood than to try to appear intelligent? In Bishop's words, it is better to speak three words and be understood than to speak a thousnd words that mean nothing. And about the age of the members, thats untrue. The church does have a large group of elders, but the church is not dying off. The youth group is huge, probably about 60% of the church's overall population.
TerranceVideos 2 years ago
@marcusville912 It appears that you are sadly mistaken. I'm sure that if you're a know it all and understand every bit of scripture his style may seem condescending but when you have souls at stake you have to be as clear as possible. If that means running the food through a food processor begore it's served then so be it. Some people need that. I don't believe Bishop Omega is trying to tear anybody down he's just making sure that his point is understood.
JamisonDavid1 1 year ago
I Know My Redeemer Lives!
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