The Music Hall BIG DEBATE #1 - Illegal Downloads

[InhabitantOfUniverse]

There is this stupid idea going around that illegal downloading does not affect artists. It does. So where are the real artists now? They got normal jobs and integrated into society. That made it possible for almost anyone with no talent to be a star. Pretty soon there will be nothing worth downloading because new artists will have shit for music to listen too. No inspiration + No money = No more artists trying to make it a profession.

[FFF1885]

Very interesting video. I agree with the chap at the end...he states "it's much cheaper because it costs nothing" Very wise words indeed. Illegally downloading music is exactly the same as steeling a packet of cheesy wotsits from a shop...the principle is no different.

[feshberd]

@FFF1885

Piracy doesn't not deprive the original owner of the good such as your scenario would suggest.

So the principle is not quite the same, in fact it's quite different.

[Anthonybuff]

£8 a month for the internet or £9 for an album........

Its no wonder most people go for illegal downloads

[LaurenOrmeFilms]

@Anthonybuff A lot of good albums are like £4 on Amazon and Play

[LaurenOrmeFilms]

although to be fair now spotify's gone bollocks I do use listen to youtube SOMETIMES

[LaurenOrmeFilms]

that's right kids don't illegally download music

[dahakka]

@LaurenOrmeFilms Shouldn't people be able to do what they like? If its available why free why wouldn't people want to have it? Shoudn't responsibility be in the hands of the sites that are publishing copyrighted content illegally?

[LaurenOrmeFilms]

@dahakka Well yeah I agree to an extent... if I just wanted one song from an artist I would probably download it illegally without feeling bad but if you love a band and want their whole back catalogue it's a bit rowdy not to give them any money for that, especially if it's a little band rather than a massive famous rich one. And I don't think there's any point really blaming it on the sites or trying to shut them down - as long as there's demand someone will spring up somewhere and supply stuff

[dahakka]

@LaurenOrmeFilms You could say the same for the people downloading as the sites publishing, as long as there is that demand. Illegal downloading of music is often something that people don't feel they are responsible for, maybe because so manny people are doing it or the music producers themselves already get so much money from sales that a single person wouldn't matter. I would say the system just dosn't work. Maybe we need to radicalize how music is sold?

[LaurenOrmeFilms]

@dahakka I think when something's easy to steal and the chances of getting caught are low a lot of people will do it with no qualms, and if you're downloading like U2 or whatever then fine it probably doesn't make much difference to them, but if you want the music of a tiny band then it does. People think about 'the system' and itunes and not wanting to give their money to that rather than thinking that they're actually stealing from their favourite band. How would you radicalise it?

[dahakka]

@LaurenOrmeFilms for me i prefer buying CDs as its something tangible to own rather then itunes ect (ive never used them). by radicalise i mean make CDs or downloadable music that is incepted and cannot be copied, i know that this is not possible without changing the way the music is played (mp3 players/computers ect), but doing something to change the product or to change something to make it harder to illegally download music would be a much better step then to tell people not to do something.