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  • Leslie SK-3 ?

  • @dominikdanio111 the horn is either a m3h or k3l--holden/burnett/airchime or nathan.

    i've heard various samples of m3h's, k3l's and leslie s3k's,

  • 1432 is a fp7, rebuilt as fp9a.

  • @WAYNE1980AA

    When were those units rebuilt and what was the extent of their rebuilding?

  • @ma7799 fp7, est 1950? check on cnlines-cnet or canmodel trains, this is a fp7a in a fp9a body.

  • can't wait for rapido's canadian!

  • wow that is a really nice video. I want around when these were still going LRC were the shit when I Was younger lol

  • this video is excellent, useful in model railroading and has one of the older sounding horns.

    when rapido releases their canadian, some of the cars will be built from car sides.

    and can you tell me if that's 2 dayniter leg rest coaches and a 60 seat coach before the skyline dome car?

  • Now that is a Canadian train.

  • Nice!!!

  • #1) "Banff is a Great Place, everyone should see it"! You can follow the Trains into the mountains and get fantastic videos / photo's! 2) Thanks for the great video here! I grew up in Vancouver B.C. and fondly remember the CN & CP then Via F Units! Thanks.

  • 11 years now...

  • Thanks for uploading this time machine. I arrived here for my first time on CP-Rail in the early 70-s. The Canadian was rather short, as it was late October.

    Later, in the 80's I rode the early VIA train into and out of Banff. It looked pretty much like this one.

  • Wow steam-heat and F9's in 1982!!! They had ditch lights that early?

  • Hi e44e33

    We traveled on VIA Rail Skeena Train July 2010 from Prince Rupert to Jasper in the Glass domed Carriage, AWESOME.

    This MUST be the most Picturesque train journey in the World, Bar None.

    Not only do you get this Fantastic Carriage but also the 1940,s Upper Deck Observation Carriage at the rear of the Train[AMAZING]

    On the same Trip We went on the more Famous Rocky Mountaineer which was FANTASTIC But this was the BEST.

    Great video BTW brings back Great  memories :-)

    Keith

  • Those F-units are beautiful locos on passenger trains!!!

  • Awesome video! What horn is that on 1432?

  • @trmania would sound like an older casting K3L/K3H.

  • very nice I just love those f units.

  • ahhh.... that was the old VIA I remember. In fact I took this train in 83 from Brandon North to Vancouver. Funny how they were using the stainless steel cars for first class only back then. Now consider youself lucky.

  • Nice one.

  • why was there a CP on this via?

  • @celica825 VIA Rail took over all of CP and CN's rolling stock and locomotives on January 1, 1978. This video is from 1982. CN's equipment was repainted first - obviously the CP locomotive had yet to berepainted. That's also why the train is a mixed consist - CP's cars were fluted stainless steel; CN's were smooth-sided.

  • @pipey61 ok thanks! 

  • didn't they use that cp rail in a movie

  • Check out the Via Rail videos on my channel. Thanks.

    T.J.F.

  • The old `F-units` are so much more attractive than today`s `cowl` style of diesel loco.

  • @mottledbrain Yes! They look better than GE P40s also.

  • this video is great, and i wonder...for ho scale, does anyone know the type of horn? this will help me in model railroading when i install the qsi revolution sound system. is it a nathan 3 chime ??

  • This is probably the same train sitting in Thunder Bay rotting!

  • just wonderin'....for the purpose of model railroading, what type of horn is used? is it a 3 chime or leslie airhorn? (for use with qsi sound)

  • Via Rail made a really nice gesture a few days ago. A guy called Cyril Roy died on Vancouver Island back in November leaving his Alaskan Malamute, Fred without an owner. Via offered free passage for Fred back to Montreal where Roy was from. They also gave two free tickets to two people from Montreal that will accompany the dog. Kudos to Via.

  • I was on that train!

  • Great video. Wish I could have seen something like that. That was 10 years before my time

  • what kind of crossing was this--a wig wag or crossing flashers? or the combo gate and signal?

    how loud was the horn?

  • I took this train from Brandon North to Vancouver back in 84 when I was a just a kid. Great memories although it ran though Jasper by then..

  • Via Rail should get this back on the CPR route thru Revelstoke, Field, etc, but that damn private tour co., Rocky Mt.-ear is preventing that from happening, as they have HUGE political clout. Yes, this is wrong in a country such as Canada, but politicians can be bought, as they can anywhere! VERY sad this train runs on CN routing, rather than CP, where it belongs!

  • It's a travesty that Via Rail is no longer running through Banff.

  • I Definatlly agree with you on that the Canadian doesnt look right on the CN line that line through Revelstoke needs VIA back on it it sure would bring alot more tourism back to Lake Louise and Banff if VIA was on that line again

  • I agree whole heartedly.

  • Oddly enought, the private entity has always held the more scenic routing- back in '55 CN was a Crown corporation that lost money, and CP was a profitable private corporation

  • @FortunaFortesJuvat

    no more than public schools "lose" money (ie dont make a profit), or hospitals, or city transit.........passenger trains should be NO different ! Its a SERVICE !

  • @getchasumm

    I agree VIA should still run the Canadian on the CP route, however service should also continue on the CN route.

  • @shnorth888 I have allways thought that 2 trains bring back the Super Contenental on the CN and run the Canadian on the CP where it Belongs not just the Rockey Mountaineer

  • @getchasumm via rail should go back to cpr tracks, the cpr line is much more scenic then the cn line.

  • @getchasumm So yeah was this train fast in the 1960's ?

  • Great video! Thanks for posting it.

  • I went from Truro to Montreal last november was all great except for the nightime, all they gave us was a thin blanket and a pillow, we had to stop at Metapedia to connect to the Gaspe train they turned off all power and heating in the passenger cars I never slept the entire night and when we got to Montreal i ended sleeping all that afternoon,next time..IM GETTING A SLEEPER!

  • No, this was a 1st class train, killed off by our third rate government!

  • @Intransitman Your right, the first class Via Train was killed off by a shit government & cut backs, plus the end of Conductor's and other Great Train Staff! Now a days it has somewhat come back on the Vancouver to Toronto Via. A friend took the trip and said it was very nice, food & service. You also have to tip big! But, it will never be the First Class of the CN & CP days.

  • @48alfaone Indeed, now CP wants to trash their line through the Ottawa River valley. There is so much asset stripping going on in Canada, it's disgusting!

  • @Intransitman Wow, the Ottawa valley, and whats next on the chopping block after that? It is disgusting!

  • @48alfaone i agree, cn had the super continental and cp/via's the canadian.

    all those budget cuts lead to the death of those amazing trains.

    but the engines lasted a good 20 plus years.

    thanks to rapido and model railroads, etc...this will live on

  • @Intransitman Don't you think Canadians deserve high speed rail ?

  • @NaziJuice In time, though right now we need to restore basic services and relay lines that were trashed for nothing!

  • @Intransitman unfucking believable so we have the largest Country in the world we have more people than ever and the most efficeient means of transport is cut down ?

  • @NaziJuice Well that's crooked politics for you. >:(

  • Brings back memories, I use to run that train out of North Bay Ontario, we lost that train in 1990, government cut backs. To this day nothing sounds better then a 1400 series locomotive in 8 throttle. Thanks for posting.

    Hogger01

  • I grew up in Chalk River, but I was just barely too young to remember the Canadian rolling through, or the old station. Thankfully, blueprints will help me reconstruct the entire scene in HO scale!

  • you used to be an engineer?, that awesome. my dad has worked for via rail for 25 years. So he has did shifts on the canadian as well as the super continental. he really didnt like it when the government cut back on the fundings which made via drop the scenic CPR route.

  • Notice the Super Continental CN smoothside cars, they never were on the Canadian before 1978 or after 1990

  • It's really sad that "The Canadian" has been gone for almost 20 years.

  • yo its still running today but from Vancouver to toronto on the CN line

  • What we have left today is "The Super Continental", Via Rail just rebranded it as "The Canadian" after the the Mulruiny cuts of 1990. Just because, you change the name of some thing doesn't mean that it becomes some thing else.

  • sadly it does, if you run it on a shittier (CN) route, instead of CP's !!

  • "Mulruiny" !

    Good one!

    :)

  • They still run it I was on it last summer!

  • What they did was change the name of "The Super Continental", the REAL "The Canadian" was cut in January 1990.

  • thats why alot of chinese from vancouver take the canadian b/c they though they were going on the historic CPR route by which their ancestors built as cheap labour in the 1880s. But they end up seeing the shit that is on the CN route instead which is so less scenic

  • @Ringorangers506

    all cuz the head of Rocky Mt-ear is in bed with BC Premier Campbell and PM Harper ! 100% true ! Those guys are PREVENTING VIA Rail from returning to CP tracks on the southern route!

  • omg have laways wanted to ride the canadian :) :D

  • Just watching those F's on a video gives me such a thrill! I have yet to ride the Canadian.

  • wow! beautiful train great sound!

  • classic stuff... I remember those head units... HUGE logo...

  • Those F-units were beutiful! The sound of there engines powering up sends a chill! And the sound of their horns was unmistakenable!

  • I agree very uniquelly Canadian

  • Awesome video!!!! Thanks for posting this video.

  • oh look the real silver streak ( sorry to all my railfans I just had to add that LOL )hell they used the same cars and probilly engines in that movie ..on a serious note this is trullly a nice train very nestalgic I love seeing the old F units on there leaving the Banff depot now only Rockey Mountaineer teritory and of course the freights I think the Canadian should be back on this route

  • and no I am not calling this train the silver streak I know its the Canadian I was just being humerous the whistle reminded me of the one in the movie

  • Today's canadian runs only with Budd Stainless steel cars. The only NSC built cars still in service are in northern manitoba & all but one of the FP9s have been retired. Things have changed since back then.

  • really they still use the old cars? and ya isnt the FP9 a yard goat in vancouver? used only for shunting cars lol

  • Phuk'n Eh !

  • when did Via rail stop serving Banff, Alberta??

  • I don't know but they are now serving Hinton Alberta. for nativegerry335.

  • ...Do you know... Hinton, Alberta have been the site of a unfolding tragedy when the Super continental collide with a CN train: Killing 23 passengers and injury a hundred of them.

  • Yes and it's called the canadian. a VIA train and a CN train. The fright trains drivers were tired.

  • Actually. That train that crashed was VIA's Super Continental so... Ultimate Billy was right when he called it that.

  • Ok but i was close. Oh yeah i think after the accident, they stopped serving Hinton as the Via super continental and did so with the canadian. i think thats why they stopped doing banff.

  • Yeah. With all the cuts from the governement, they canceled the Super Continental and they moved the Canadian to the Super Continental's old route.

  • Or, more accurately, they cancelled "The Canadian" and re-named "The Super Continental" to "The Canadian". Via's thinking at the time was to keep operating as much as possible on the-then publicly owned CN right-of-way. But it would have been a PR disaster to cancel a train named "The Canadian". Eventually, they retired/scrapped/sold the NSC ex-CN fleet and refurbished the CP Budd cars.

  • yup. pretty much. Wasn't a smart idea though to only have one transcontinental train.... but.. what could they do with all then cuts and all....

  • Though the Mulruiny-Bouchard Via cuts didn't make any sense to begin with.

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  • my dad used to work on this line, he told me its more scenic than the current Cn line. I used to take Via rail, and i figured the CP rail line is has more epic scenery as compared to the CN line it operates.

  • Politics has always been a problem for rail operators as the Road Transport Lobby Groups have had plenty of power and the ear of politicians.Fuel prices are forcing many road operators to re think the economics of rail once again and here in Australia the big road transport groups have bought into rail and actually have their own freight/container trains.Rail operations is now open to all players who want to be involved without fear or favour. Amtrak play under different rules it seems.

  • Though that is just it with infrastructure, the big problem is politics, not economics. The street in front of your home is not being judged on a profit or loss basis to stay in existance.

  • From an Aussies point of view whatever happened to C.P. and "The Canadian".Looks like VIA took over and are using some of their great rollingstock from yesteryear.Canada appears to cherish their long long distance passenger trains more than their cousins just below.I hope that is not unfair comment.

  • hear in the U.S., politics is what's keeping Amtrak from running a great sevice. Also the fact that freight traffic has increased in the past few years is another factor. Yet despite that Amtrak still moves foward to a better future (I hope).

  • Amtrak gets next to nothing in funding. If you go McDonald's and buy a Big Mac, a fry & a drink. You have just spent more money then what Amtrak gets from you as a tax payer for the whole year!

  • In Canada we do not do a better job, than people in the USA.

  • I believe the used an f unit somewhere in Quebec

  • sounds like a 567c

  • I really miss the old F-Units and the old cars, I hear VIA still uses 1 FP9A for switchin cars in they're Vancouver yard. #6300 Great post, brings back alot of memories!!

  • wow that horn it loud nice to see this

  • I'd love to see a video of the old F's and FP's at speed with the Canadian or the Ocean. And I'm not talking 50 or 60 I mean upwards of 90 MPH like they used to run out on the prairies and between Montreal and Toronto.

  • Great video! Question... Were all the stainless steel streamliner passenger cars ex CP and all the solid blue cars ex CN?

  • Pretty much. Most of CN's cross-country sleepers were from the Super Continental; CP's fleet of Budd Cars came from the Canadian. Staggered consists like this were common while VIA upgraded the Budd cars for electrical heating and disc brakes. CN had very few stainless cars in its fleet, and most of those were leased cars (except for those TEMPO trains).

  • In my last comment I was talking about TheSubtomicCheese.

  • Old cars and stainless steel cars combinations. In my day, the combinations are: LRC and stainless steel in the corridor, renaissance and sometimes stainless steel park car at the end of the train. This train is call the ocean express.

  • Thank you so much.

  • The hormn on the lead locomotive sounded like the same locomotive that was painted up for the movie Silver Streak, engine no. 4070, I would like to know it that engine will ever be brought back into service, it would be cool to see it painted in the colors from the movie Silver Streak, for the fictional railroad AM Road.

  • Love the steam generators!

  • Doenst that rule about 20 seconds play into this video here?

  • VIA #1432 is actually an FP9.

    Excellent video!

  • 1405 is also an FP9

  • Correct. Externally, you can tell the difference between F7's/FP7's and F9's/FP9's by the flush headlights and the extra intake vents ahead of the front portholes.

  • You're right-- flunked cab unit ident 101.

  • Corrections: 1432 is an FP7, 1965 is an F9B, and 1406 is an FP9. All are ex CP, sold off to VIA.

  • VIA #1432 has flush headlights and extra intake vents ahead of the first portholes.

    F9's, FP9's and FL9's were the only F-units to (originally) ever have those features. I found no evidence of VIA ever having an FP7 or F7B on their roster. So, #1432 is an FP9.

  • Canadian units differ from the traditional EMD spotting features. And if you'd checked your sources, you would have found VIA owned a whole bunch of ex CP FP7's in the 1400's, with ex CP 1405-1414 and ex CN 6500-6541 being the only FP9's. Easily-accessible roster data shows VIA 1432 being ex CP 1432/4041, Serial A245, built 1951.

  • I hope your right. This FP7A loco (in the mid-1000's looks a bit bigger than the FP9A loco in the mid-6000's.)

  • Umm, FP7's and FP9's are the same size. But hey, if you don't believe roster info and facts, nothing I can do.

  • that era looked great the vai and cp 1960s-1980s

  • The sound of those 567's is incredible.  Thanks for sharing.

  • Wow they look so different back then

  • They should bring this back on the CPR!

  • You can still see a couple of those old Via Rail F units parked at the CN rail yard near Toronto.

  • It's been the good old day's thank for sharing

  • great video....anymore?

  • What a video: great horn, F units, steam heat! Don't forget the mechanical bell - most of the crossing bells in my neck of the woods are electronic now :(

  • I love it!! The Canadian at it's best, on the CPR where it should be!

  • oh yeah

    vintage from 1982

    kick-ass horn too

    thank to post it

  • Awesome horn.

  • Looked like the C.P F-unit was from the movie Silver-Streak..interesting if it was.

  • The locomotives on Silver Streak are CP Rail EMD FP7's.

  • Silver Streak used CP FP7 4070.

  • Thank you.

  • i just live those old f-units!!!!

  • oh man!!!...love this...thanks!!

  • This is an absolutely amazing video!

    Is that a Nathan M3H?

  • Yes that's a Nathan M3H

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