Worker falls after gutter hits power line

[Russellbeta]

@ theonlychampion, ropes are a pain in the ass for such things, like when you tie yourself on a roof for security when you work you wind up getting it tangled up or worse tripping over it.. besides having a gutter dangling by a rope in the wind isn't exactly handling wit care. if you scratch the protective coating it will rust.

[FULLEFFECTCARCLUB]

that sucks about the workers.

btw snazzy honda at 1:21

[megagirlyo93]

why didn't the person on the roof didn't get electrocuted?

[theflames30]

@Intiaboats dude worksafe is just the safty warning people they r not a construction people. Dipshit.

[ATVVideoProductions]

Mistake #1, using an aluminum ladder. I work for a utility, and we only use non conductive ladders such as wood or fiberglass. At least when they are dry they are non conductive.

[iToasterman]

I love your videos, there sad, but informative! :D and amazing how people get hurt...

[southernclassik]

electricity goes for the least amount of resistance....

[theonlychampion96]

why not use a rope to pull it up :P

[madisonelectronic]

OSHA loves this stuff. Why? The creeps KEEP the money they fine people, enabling them to keep increasing their govt. monstrosity until you cannot take a shit without their OK.

[The9thstreet]

A powerline, a ladder, and a aluminium gutter= death...... who knew

[Jefftrigwell2]

Thanks for an interesting video.

Is it allowed with that long ladders in the U.S.?

It is not in Sweden.

[MrConnerthompson]

@2.55

[jhonnybob999]

this isn't high voltage, is middle voltage

[Pimpmastahanhduece]

wouldnt the guy in the middle still feel the gutter gets really hot from resistance heating? either way, the guy who fell didnt die from the fall, he died probably instantly from heart failure.

[dickinson1027]

Isn't there a way to insulate powerlines so that they do not conduct electricity by touch?

[chrisdudex11]

fake! he falls hard lol

[chrisdudex11]

fake!

[chrisdudex11]

This is fake XD

[okoskutya35]

ALL THE CANADIANS ARE IDIOTS

[jimmyshitbags]

it does my head in how people quote just the voltage as if it means a fucking thing to them or anyone else (it clearly doesn't on its own). it might be 14,000 volts but, say, one electron under a potential difference of 14,000V isn't going to do any damage.

[intiaboats]

Ah well, just one more injured worker that WorkSafe didn't have to pay. That's all they're interested in.

[SuperNewf1]

@intiaboats Yeah. If the worker survived and could go back to work then a-o-k. If he survived but was permanently disabled and could not return to his job then the torture and attempted murder begins. That is called "appeals". He was probably lucky to have died. Seriously. Better than being tortured to death slowly after the accident.

[Chargeglass]

Wow are you kidding me? They reduced the limit by 5 feet, they should make it like 25feet max.

[whatitis99]

@Chargeglass 56 - 5 = 45? I don't know where you learned math, but 56 - 11 = 45. They reduced the limit by 11 feet, not 5 feet. Nobody said the limit was 56 feet anyway. They were probably making them longer than that before this happened.

[polemokles]

fake!

[skatersRgay1993]

@polemokles um... if you're serious, you're dumb. If you're joking, Haha!!

[jhonnybob999]

@polemokles lol

[happymana]

This Guy is a Pro, That's the sort of Job i'd love.

[cooljitz]

The ladder was steelmade ( a conductor ) and was touching the ground . Now ground is always at zero potential and the lines were at very high potential . So the current flowed from high potential to low potential via that worker . On the other hand , that man is standing on cemented ( isulator) roof, hence the current can't flow from roof to ground. Also a bird doesn't get shook when it perches on a high volatge wire :)

[humanalive]

@cooljitz

A steel made ladder?

What is this used for? Exercise during working time?

People in developed countries would use ladders made from aluminium that also come with thick rubber feet just to prevent what...? Correct: the risk of electric shock.

[xxxR4MB0xxx]

@cooljitz if lightning hit my house and i was taking a shower. would i get fried?

[diveplane]

cowboys.

[Keith1212ofxbox360]

love these vids. good lessons

[TheJuggerking]

and thats why we keep our power lines under ground, well at least where i live

[karlsanjuan7000]

fake!

[karlsanjuan7000]

fake! humans

[elrey53]

Las lineas de alto voltaje deberían ir bajo tierra.

The high voltage lines should go underground.

[bordersoldier]

the low voltage line are insulated too. always be aware of your surroundings

[drumminghunter]

sad!

[asdfghjklkjhgfdsa555]

Should of been using fibreglass ladders

[smartestmanonnet]

The guy on roof didn't feel a thing because his body was not grounded. The guy on the metal ladder was and electricity is always trying to go to ground

[OnnomonnomonnO]

@smartestmanonnet not always...only if the second electrode of the secondary coil (of the transformer ) is connected to the G, then the first one bedomes the " Live phase" and is active according to the ground ....but......of course you was right anyway !

[pmiii210]

That is just freakin stupid on everybody's part ! The two other co-workers will yell in thier sleep when that nightmare recurrs over and over. PEACE!

[noelpne]

I think that the more incident like this are publicised ( even with jokey low-tech imagery & corny actors at the start ) - then all the better - if it saves just the one life it's been validated .

[theelinventore]

no way power line are locate 15 feet away from any home.

[jackonapsp]

f@#k dis shit

[xfire7]

Don`t shorten the gutter.Stop hiring stupid people.Or have proper supervision fotrthe poorly trained

[tomerescfc]

i dont understand how the one holding the gutter on the roof didnt feel a thing ?

[SteveSherrick]

@tomerescfc The electricity was looking for the quickest way to a 'perfect' ground. Going through a person, then a not very conductive building? Nah. go through the person, then the aluminum (holy shit people actually still use these?) ladder to the best ground.

[TheSchoolh8er]

@tomerescfc insulated gloves?

[oracle2world]

Helpful tip, 10 feet away from power lines.

[NLterror6000]

perhabs powerlines in the groud could prevented this?:) and powerlines in the ground dont get effected by weather :)

[Patrickthedutch]

what a tragedy.

Hopefully with this video, other tragedy's will be prevented.

[mickblock]

The worker on the roof holding the gutter might have been an ass.

[kozeel]

@mickblock Get real! When you are out there working and "ASSISTING" your co-worker who is climbing up the ladder, it is VERY easy to neglect the other end of the gutter. Specially when the power lines are hidden behind the trees. There's nothing to blame the guy standing on the roof. By the way, he could have got electrocuted FIRST if the electricity had a way to pass through his body. Because of the ladder, the circuit completed and other guy got electrocuted. Think before you say such words.

[Seanlarious]

And knowledge is half the battle!

[ThaisBlackXboxLive]

In air power lines always look so cheap, and ugly.. D: And also dangerous!

Luckely my towns powerlines are all underground, looks alot better and safer

[syncmaster710n14]

Avoid the low voltage and hit the high voltage.

FAIL.

[MajorT0m]

INteresting and tragic. Thanks for sharing.

[jamesandrew2000]

They should not have been installing gutters anyway.

[j69d]

crazy

[M4PATRIOT]

Shouldn't High voltage lines be more insulated? I know electric lines are Extremely Dangerous, but This clip doesn't make sense. I've done, and still do a lot of work around high powered electric lines and I've never seen this happen. I really doubt that piece of gutter cut the outer casing of the power and neutral high voltage wire and the guy on the roof was a ground..?? There is a lot more to this clip. (in my opinion)

[camfreak9]

Not all feeder are insulated, I work for a utility in NJ where none of our feeders are insulated. They are all bare.

[FlyAsTheSky33]

@camfreak9 I know exactly what you're talking about, I think. Isn't there something that states if a set of power lines is so many feet off of the ground, it isn't required to be insulated?

[rigohero]

He didnt mention that they could've used a fiberglass ladder and nothing would've happen to him.

[Callimotz]

put the power lines underground. thats not happenong . focus should be on safety in this sort of situation. when a contractor first looks at a job he has a resposibility to himself and others to notice if there are powerlines located anywhere within the working area. If so he should inform the property owner that the power co. should be called in to wrap the lines with a shield. doesnt matter who calls as long as the call is made . Safety first. If they had called that man would still be alive.

[EliteDuffman]

none of these videos shows the accident itself, LAME!!

(but again, maybe I am? :O )

Just saying, because I guess most ppl would expect to see the clip itself instead of a safety video

(witch the title did not describe)

[tosselina]

In sweden we have our power lines digged down into the ground, why the hell would you want the powerlines in the air? just stupid and messy

[LonsomeStraw]

@tosselina It's cheaper

[kazimann]

It cheaper to have them in the air.

[yonyfive]

Not an extruder machine, instead a bending machine, uses rolls of metal to bend into shapes.

[anniegoosie]

@ 2:28 they took a picture of the house and used a computer to make 3D people to show you what it looked like when the people were there.....................I think

[WorkSafeBC]

That's right, but I think the time you mean was 0:48

[NargalaX]

@WorkSafeBC YOU'RE FUCKIN RETARDED BITCH THATS WAHT I THINK.

[jenbugluv]

@WorkSafeBC taht just tells you that he wasnt paying attention

[DutchDukeMan]

@anniegoosie THANKS CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

[Wellingtonnews]

Why not try putting the cables underground?

[russdonruss]

Infrastructure like that takes money. The fact is until the CITY demands that the utility companies change all their overhead feeds to underground they will stay this way. And if the city does force the issue, the taxpayers will bear the financial cost of the installation, as well as the traffic snarls caused by tearing up the streets and sidewalks to do it...

[thereallunchbox1717]

I can't believe the power company didn't make up a better plan for showing this line was here. They said it was obscured. This is why they cut fucking trees down around my area. Sure, I was sad as shit when they cut the trees down in my aunt's back yard, but guess what? 5 years later, you can't hardly tell, AND I know it's not risking someone's life. I love nature, but there comes a point when lives supersede it.

[katz204]

hehe looks kinda like sims but really tragic accdent

[FaulknerCk2]

you mean Sims 1.?

[takenobreath]

Quit whining about the imagery. The purpose is obviously to save lives, not for your personal eye candy.

[bigtimcny]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt

[mapukmapuk]

im gonna cry so sad.

[lndac02]

should have been using scaffolding or moving tower in any event. a ladder is not suitable for this type of work

[friscoway415]

why the f--ng city or electricity department does not isolate the cables near the houses????, yea because they don't care, all they care is to sell electricity.

[alnebular]

Don't be an a**hole, we all know that power lines are dangerous. We are responsible for our actions, not the city, elec co. etc...

[robertgift]

No, frisco moron.

Would cost a fortune to apply insulation to the overhead electrical wires.

They would weigh much more and the insulation likely would deteriorate form UV.

It may also develope unseen cracks.

BETTER Look what you are doing, first. Duh!

[chdonncha]

poor guy, did he have a family?

[jwboll]

that sucks, poor guy died avoiding the "low voltage" lines and they could have used the "low voltage" lines as a support for the gutter and not had any trouble since the low voltage lines are insulated. (like an extension cord)

I'm not saying they SHOULD have, just that they could have.

Got distracted my a minor danger while the real danger was unnoticed.

[tailgunner2]

@jwboll

Sir, I am an electrician and recently taken an OSHA 10 course. Those "Lower Voltagle" lines that have "insulation"? Believe it or not but that "insulation" have ZERO electrical ratings st all. That outer jacket's sole purpose is but to protect the conductive material from incidental contact, nothing else. It is NOT there to insulate any electrical current from whatever may touch it. I was just as suprised as you may be from reading this.

[russdonruss]

I am also an electrician and I have worked on the lower voltage lines when doing service upgrades. The fact is most of the "insulation" on these lines gets dry and cracks from exposure to UV and weather. So even though it looks like an insulated wire-- you get up close and you'll see the conductor shining through tiny cracks. You could be shocked by a overhead feed if you are grounded or touch the messenger wire that the phase conductors are wrapped around if the circuit is on.

[7777dmith7777]

The picture of the saftey guy with the new shiny never been worn hard hat and the garbageman safety orange triple reflective safety vest on at the beginning of this video and all of the videos like this one, instantly makes me not want to watch the video.

[alnebular]

I agree, but some good info here.

[garrysurrey]

i'm guessing he died before he even hit the ground... R.I.P

Just goes to show how careless people can be

[Testname678]

Chazz49855, you're talking working distance. Paulzo386 is talking arcing distance. 12kV ain't gonna arc 2 feet 1 inch, but we both know it'd be a damn bad idea to bring something grounded closer than that because of the risk of contact.

CampKohler: Rwastk is probably right. The current pretty much does have to go somewhere. It's almost unheard of to be accidentally insulated at 12kV. A rubber roof and sneakers ain't gonna cut it. I'm still amazed roof-guy wasn't even hurt.

[Kirke182]

@Testname678 Roof guy wasn't hurt because he provided a high resistance path to ground while the guy on the ladder was low resistance and current always takes the path of least resistance. Otherwise, roof guy might have gotten zapped too--hard to say. Depends on how well insulated he was from ground but obviously much better than a guy on an aluminum ladder.

[mukraf]

@Kirke182 maybe he had a Faraday suit?? lol, i doubt it

[mageguy3]

lol doesnt matter u still get shocked if u stand on concrete doesnt have to be made of metal

i know for experince that concrete conducts eletricity i was fixing a wire at my house i had boots and it didnt shock but i was holding on to the wire and i put my hand on the wall, the wall was made of concrete and i tell u i felt that shock =p

[art11art12]

Current looks for the easiest path to ground. Classifying concrete as a conductor wouldn't exactly be correct.

[turkbox420]

Some great animation!

[moonfades2009]

R.I.P

[EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME]

ow 22 foot drop to concret no wonder he died of his injurys

[karstinpk]

crazy good animation. it looks so real

[38Highbury]

Boring! I want footage.

[mstep3]

why did the first worker not get electrocuted also?......

[Rfc1394]

Probably because he was not grounded. He's standing on a roof, probably on non-conducting shingles, and very likely was wearing gloves (those gutters can have sharp edges.) The other guy was standing on a steel ladder and the gutter was probably in his arms rather than his hands.

[BF2OMG]

circuit

[draconite420]

Or he had some good rubber soled shoes and rubber gloves? Yes i think they guy on the ladder was carring it with his arms while still holding onto the ladder with his hands so even if he had proper rubber boots and gloves and his legs were not toughing the ladder nor the eve touching the ladder, he might have lived.

[rrhynes]

The guy on the ladder was more well grounded apparently. Otherwise, he would have been shocked as well.

[fastestlapsDOTcom]

You have to understand electricity. The worker on the stairs became a part of electric circuit starting from the wire all the way to the ground. The worker on the rood didn't provide any pathway to the ground, so the electric current "ignored" him.

[xxxR4MB0xxx]

@fastestlapsDOTcom would lightning ever hit a house and if it did and i was in the bathtub would i get fried?

[nero540]

i think that is because the roof is to good isolated from the earth (there is a materie on it that they burn on the roof (dont know the english word))) but the other one climb on a ladder and he needs one hand to hold the ladder and one hand for the gutter ... and in theory, electricity choose the shortest route to earth with the least resistance ;-)

[cheetawolf]

sometimes natural reflexes (letting go of the line) or interference from the power can kill...

and so it did.

hopefully when he got shocked or hit the ground it was instant...

[GuSxMan666]

I don't like it when other workers say..."hell with safety" or that unsafe attitude.

[JTyler52]

saftey sucks! just GET-R-DONE

[PercussionC170]

Yeah and you know what sucks more... DEATH!

[Mevi814]

Of course, you're 16... shhhh.

[123hihi1]

Hero!

[GETNZHOUSIN]

well i didnt die but ive had 3 of those same lines fall on me in a tractor boy was i shittin bricks that day.

[aviater12345]

The Tractor conducted the current and you were saved

[lejink]

they say 10 feet, even if ud be safe at 3 feet, because if ur moving something large around it only takes a split second to not notice that 3foot distance u thought u had has turned into 2 and ur dead.

they arent saying ull be shocked at 9 feet so stay at 10..

[dnomsed5]

The first guy was luuuuuuucky, he was probably wearing gloves and the other guy wasn't

[Tomis1014]

wow! thats like really interesting to me ?! why are you putting vid like that, why you are explaining to us???

[jesusfreak1tobymac]

thats stupid. if you are electricuted you cant let go of the metal you are holding on to gosh...

[sharkkiller1]

ooo thats 3 phase that'll cook you good

[thehairyhungarian]

22 feet and he died.. my grandfather at 55 fell two off the roof of a 2 story house onto a concrete pad and got up from it

[SADFEETFEAR]

and? what are you trying to say? you're grandpa is a big tough old man?

[67tr876]

@SADFEETFEAR You fucking dumb ass its to tell you not be dumb and be safe.

[ZX2ManDave]

Probably the juice had something to do with his death more than the fall did.

Or maybe he hit his head just right on the fall.

[HunjiFlar]

well that was like 3 stories and he fell directley on his back

[Kryval]

It was the electric shock that killed him

[Timest0rm]

Did your grandfather hit a power line too? I don't think so

[steeltransport]

Yeah, and my great gandfather fell off 12 story building, got up, and then went on to post BS comments about other people falling off builings on youtube.

[TyrotoxismFtw]

He would be dead, especially if he was elder. He obviously fell on something to lower the impact alot, or he landed differently.

[pauloz386]

Why bother trying to educate those that wouldn't even seek out such information or even if they were told wouldn't follow. Safety is used more often now as a way to squeeze more money out of us by requiring people to attend courses (read money), that teach things people should already know. A 12kv power line danger zone is only 1.2cm as the breakdown voltage of air is about 1kv per mm. 10 feet recommendation would mean the power line would need to be carry in excess of 300kv!

[farkdanarc]

ummm....because how will thye know without training? WHMIS - extremely simple and basic knowledge was new to you at somepoint, so the same priniciples apply to all other training. Without training, workers would not have knowledge, injuries occur, now whose fault is it?

i assume you are 12 years old and live at home, cause any post secondary education is training. Different training is required for indutrial/construction style positions.

i will agree that those people exist tho.

[bugablue]

I agree training is a good thing. I currently have no less than 8 certificats of courses that I must carry with me to every job site. BUT, I also think safety regulations are getting so extreme that we are taking a step back. We also have to fill out form upon form up paperwork to ensure we have covered all dangers of the site. Once thats done, what do you think we do? Hurry to make up lost time. It's a losing battle sometimes. Common sense always prevails.

[pmgodfrey]

- @ pauloz386 -

You educate them because not everyone has common sense. While I totally understand the hazards of electricity the person next to me might not.

You can't just assume that because you know better everyone else should.

It's like that with computers for me. I've worked on and with them for over 25 years - they're easy to understand! Yet there are millions of people who just don't understand - so it's hard for me to understand why they don't. Does that make sense?

[Regalcourt101]

What is common to one person is not necessarily common to another. How do you thing you learned thing that you consider to be common sense? You were either taught by someone else, or you learned by trial and error - there are no other ways. Training for your own health and safety, and the health and safety of others is very important.

[radudman]

the dielectric of air depends hugely on the humidity, and pressure, and temperature(which has a small effect on pressure). it will range from about, 0.4 to 3 megavolts per meter.

[maxneu]

I think you missed the point about the safety distance. We're talking about moving large clumsy objects near power lines and keeping a safe distance so you dont accidentally touch the line, not how close it has to be to create an arc.

[chazz49855]

Hey paulzo386, are you joking? 3/4 of an inch? Uh, better check your facts, minimum approach distance on 12kV is 2 feet 1 inch, unless you rubber it up and you're qualified to work it hot. The 10 foot safety zone is to compensate for idiots like you swinging shit around them. Training is to keep ignorant people such as yourself from doing something stupid. Training would benefit you heavily, because you obviously don't have a clue as to how electricity but you think you do.

[bvok03]

that sucks, it was an accident.

[izzytree]

dude on the roof should have seen the power lines and/or gauged the distance for safe clearance of the guttering. I am sad to see this video as it reinforces to my mind that some times a man is better off working alone, and making the necassary outlays for equipment to do the job in a safe manner, rather than save money by employing people.

[Noise789]

why do they always use the same first employee? is this fake?

[rwastk]

if the ladder is insulated, the guy on the roof gets it, if the ladders not, the guy on the ladder gets it. path of least resistance. either way someone dies. notice how the roof guy is holding by both hands? if path of least res. is blocked by an insulated ladder, the guy on the roof gets it through the heart, on its way to ground through the house via his feet. ouch ouch

[CampKohler]

rwastk: An insulated ladder would have prevented a death. The man on the roof would have been insulated by the roofing (unless it was metal) and possibly his footwear. The current does not HAVE to go somewhere; it could have been simply blocked. Using ropes to raise the gutter would have been even wiser.

BTW, technically, extrusion is pressing metal through a hole in a die; the gutter was rolled, not extruded.

[Plataea]

The worker on the ladder completed the circuit to ground.

[Bretty135]

The ladder in the photo isn't indicated as being insulated.

[eleanorroosevelt1]

It would have been easier if they both got on the roof and lifted the gutter up with two strings tied to each end.

[kickurass1585]

stupid idea

[mitchio83]

and im sure before you saw this video you would have thought they way they did it would be the best way "kickurass1585"

Ropes would have been 100 times safer and easier.

[metalfaust19]

The unfortunate thing is that the electric current that hit the workers was quite weak. 12,000 volts in itself is not lethal, many self-defense tasers and stun-guns are in the 300,000 volt range. It is the amperage of electricity that really comes into play with lethality and commercial power lines often have limits on amperage to prevent accidents.

It was just that the poor guy was on a ladder and was knocked by the shock.

[emosk8ter97]

yeah it wasnt the power that killed him it was the concrete but still

[1nsan3taxcoll3ctor]

"hey guys, dont worry about the high voltage lines just keep an eye on the LOW voltage. because thats more important!!"

[Krukkie]

That, and they could've easily done the job by just mirroring the way they were standing: ladder on the left side of the building.

[rimes22]

so the cant look behind them?

[ddubzee]

i hate it when that happens

[Tvillian1953]

where is the edge protection

[Dunky1962]

Great video showing the dangers involved and what planning should have been carried out first before starting work.

As always be safe - think - live