Im not going to lie, people who are 'outraged' at a rider properly reprimanding their horse pisses me off to no end. If she was see-sawing back and forth and whipping her horse over and over and over it would not have been an issue. HOWEVER, how else will the horse ever learn if not taught. Its no different than your parents spanking you, grounding you or yelling at you. People don't say, 'OMG child abuse'!! Same. Damn. Thing
@avatar3431 - I've just played the video and it seemed to work fine for me. Sometimes, however, my internet messes up or something and I can't see videos past a certain point, usually refreshing the page tends to sort it out. I hope you can see the rest of it. =)
im going to be cheacky and say this.... we all get taught how to punnish a horse diffrently for refusals/ run outs........ but it also depends on how you ride and how experienced you are... you tned to find that the less experianced riders yanks and smack the horse were as the more experianced ones dont....... like ive said we all have diffrent appinions!!
From reading your description I was expecting the last rider to literally beat her horse up and remove it's back teeth. That was a last minute dirty stop, I agree she didn't need to pull, but it did need a smack. However, that isn't a nice fence, the video doesn't show that it's turfed over so encourages them to bank it [which you can see in a number of cases in the video]
i completely agree. the horse needed a smack as the stop was very cheeky and that fence definately looked like it needed very strong riding as it was wide and there were distractions from ppl lieing on the floor and the coffin afterwards.
I can imagine it gets a bit repetative after 3 days, we only go for one day and we walk the cross country course, hopefully we'll go again this year, might see you there.
I help at that show every year as i know the woman who organises it. Its fun but it does get a bit boring after 3 days or so especially as im mostly up at dressage or doing the scoreboard. Watch out for me this year
I know! Wow! Some of these riders are sooo sloppy and all over the place... it's insane... they defintiely shouldn't be jumping this high if they're not ready, and a handful looked like they could use some mroe lessons.
I dont think that was appauling at the end, the horse put in a stop, it could be a dirty stopper and needs a reminder, if it was young and inexperienced then that would have been wrong. But bearing in mind BE takes excessive use of spurs or bit very seriously. Great video though :)
Fair enough I see your point, but we dont realy know anything about this combination, and British Eventing decides what is excessive use of the wip (which includes more than 3 strikes at a time and after the last fence) But anyway, as I say you have a good point and it probably was not needed, personally I dont use the wip after a refusal, I use it when Im re presenting the horse to the fence.
TuckerCanToo I totally disagree - How does punishment help - it will just upset the horse and work it up and "At this level it is absolutely unacceptable for a horse to run out of anything. " is ridiculous, they have run outs at Burghley and Badminton, maybe the rider presented it wrong or didn't give strong enough aids or maybe the horse just didn't like the jump, why should the horse be hit if it was a rider error ( I'm not saying it necessaryily was) not matter what level it's at!
You can't just expect the horse to get it right all the time and carry you around without you riding it well. (sorry about the spelling of "necessaryily" in my previous post.)
Im not going to lie, people who are 'outraged' at a rider properly reprimanding their horse pisses me off to no end. If she was see-sawing back and forth and whipping her horse over and over and over it would not have been an issue. HOWEVER, how else will the horse ever learn if not taught. Its no different than your parents spanking you, grounding you or yelling at you. People don't say, 'OMG child abuse'!! Same. Damn. Thing
TheMagoo12 2 months ago
2:03 Horse: ?? Nah...I'm not sure to jump down! ;) Oh..ok then. *JUMP* Iiih xD
Strul83 2 months ago
this video is stuck in the middle and won't progress from where she's trying to jump down a steep bank
avatar3431 1 year ago
@avatar3431 - I've just played the video and it seemed to work fine for me. Sometimes, however, my internet messes up or something and I can't see videos past a certain point, usually refreshing the page tends to sort it out. I hope you can see the rest of it. =)
jbdevon1 1 year ago
im going to be cheacky and say this.... we all get taught how to punnish a horse diffrently for refusals/ run outs........ but it also depends on how you ride and how experienced you are... you tned to find that the less experianced riders yanks and smack the horse were as the more experianced ones dont....... like ive said we all have diffrent appinions!!
MsCheekyEventer1996 2 years ago
From reading your description I was expecting the last rider to literally beat her horse up and remove it's back teeth. That was a last minute dirty stop, I agree she didn't need to pull, but it did need a smack. However, that isn't a nice fence, the video doesn't show that it's turfed over so encourages them to bank it [which you can see in a number of cases in the video]
petrishka 2 years ago
i completely agree. the horse needed a smack as the stop was very cheeky and that fence definately looked like it needed very strong riding as it was wide and there were distractions from ppl lieing on the floor and the coffin afterwards.
hypersauce 2 years ago
Some riders used the whip a little much! Im all for using a whip When Needed, but some riders really smaked their horses!
hellokittyTN 2 years ago
I can imagine it gets a bit repetative after 3 days, we only go for one day and we walk the cross country course, hopefully we'll go again this year, might see you there.
jbdevon1 2 years ago
I help at that show every year as i know the woman who organises it. Its fun but it does get a bit boring after 3 days or so especially as im mostly up at dressage or doing the scoreboard. Watch out for me this year
457hatlovin 2 years ago
wow. some of those people didn't look like they should be at that level at all. 0.o
matrixmare 2 years ago
I know! Wow! Some of these riders are sooo sloppy and all over the place... it's insane... they defintiely shouldn't be jumping this high if they're not ready, and a handful looked like they could use some mroe lessons.
LegallyBlonde05 2 years ago
Was this an Intermediate course?
MaTtErOfFaCtEventerz 3 years ago
I think so
jbdevon1 3 years ago
I dont think that was appauling at the end, the horse put in a stop, it could be a dirty stopper and needs a reminder, if it was young and inexperienced then that would have been wrong. But bearing in mind BE takes excessive use of spurs or bit very seriously. Great video though :)
MaTtErOfFaCtEventerz 3 years ago 2
If it needed a reminder why not give it a tap on the way into the jump to re-inforce the leg aid? It was punishment which is wrong.
jbdevon1 3 years ago
Fair enough I see your point, but we dont realy know anything about this combination, and British Eventing decides what is excessive use of the wip (which includes more than 3 strikes at a time and after the last fence) But anyway, as I say you have a good point and it probably was not needed, personally I dont use the wip after a refusal, I use it when Im re presenting the horse to the fence.
MaTtErOfFaCtEventerz 3 years ago
I totally agree with you. The horse needed punishment, he ran out. At this level it is absolutely unacceptable for a horse to run out of anything.
TuckerCanToo 2 years ago
TuckerCanToo I totally disagree - How does punishment help - it will just upset the horse and work it up and "At this level it is absolutely unacceptable for a horse to run out of anything. " is ridiculous, they have run outs at Burghley and Badminton, maybe the rider presented it wrong or didn't give strong enough aids or maybe the horse just didn't like the jump, why should the horse be hit if it was a rider error ( I'm not saying it necessaryily was) not matter what level it's at!
jbdevon1 2 years ago
You can't just expect the horse to get it right all the time and carry you around without you riding it well. (sorry about the spelling of "necessaryily" in my previous post.)
jbdevon1 2 years ago
Fantastic footage as usual
Brilliant photos too .
Excellent , thanks for sharing :)
SarahWaters15 3 years ago
Thanks :-) and your welcome.
jbdevon1 3 years ago