Chargerlover u r missing big picture jap and euro cars make a lot more power per cubic inch then most domestic muscle example 5.0L stock 225 Hp 2.0l non turbo Jdm 225 Hp sorry can't compare engineering back in 80s and 90s domestics r finally catching
thats all that supra has is 900hp wow i could build a 1000hp chevy for 7 grand not 20 like this. i thought it had at least 1000hp. man this just goes to show imports just aint worth doing.
@cbr900rr919 This car has over 1000HP at the crank, and the engine work is probably in the 15k$ range, and there is no wayyy in hell you're gonna get 1kHP out of a V8 for less than 10k, unless it's a 572 and they cost nearly 10 grand on their own...
@CJDaTman 1000HP at the crank yes, which is like 800+rwhp, and 15k in only the motor, 5k for turbo/intake/exhaust, 5k for engine managment and fuel system, 5k for 3.2l stroker with pistons/rods/crank/etc..
if would be expensive to have it tuned, but assuming you do all the work and tune it yourself, it would be about 15k.
@cbr900rr919 A 1000ish hp bbc/sbc cost about 40k buddy. Don't just say something to say something. Do a little research first. lol nelsonracingengines baby!
@bshawn41 man the mk3's really are pretty cheap. They have gone up in price slightly in the last few years but they are still reasonable. A mint low mile turbo is worth around 7k max. N/A's are dirt cheap and then do whatever swap u want and have some cheap good fun. I got two mk3's for 2700 and they both were great running cars. RIP my 88' AUTO. Hit a deer around 75mph and pushed the radiator support back about 5 inches and the deer rapped around the whole drivers side.parts car now.
@mkIIIsupras Mine cost in excess of 20k. The engines usually need a rebuild, the cars need paint jobs, restoration work, clutch and brakes, all sorts of shit. They are old. And parts for them you can only get from toyota. And even hoses can be $100. They are not cheap.
@HamsterJunior97 Nobody gives a shit about turn. Speed is what everyone cares about! Bugatti came out everone wanted to know the speed of the thing not how many fucking turns can it do on a circut going 130 when it can top at over 220 on a straight.
UdontNoME91 please dont start shit ok i dont have time for your words like i sad 2JZ IS THE MOST POWERFUL ENGINE EVER BUILD OK tell me something if there is a street car muscle with 4000 rwhp tell me please tell me i dont give a fuck if it has turbo or not 2jz supra is inline 6 and look how much power it makes dude street supra goes 1/4 mile in just 7.5 sec some drag muscle cars dont go that fast im not hating on muscle i like muscle cars to but dude u are in my face .
2JZ IS THE most powerful engine ever build ever EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT but u got to respect 7m gte TO I mean they make great power the record for 7m gte now is 8.6 1/4 mile its the fastest mk3 supra ever its on YOUTUBE go and see type in Toyota Supra 7mGTE 8.62 sec u see
Nelson racing has a 2000hp small block with A/C and over 1000 dyno pulls on it showing no signs of wear. Any turbo motor is daily drivable when its not making boost. They even put one in a supra, minus the A/C watch?v=TkUTunWNL9o
I just noticed the nelson small block goes 147mph in the 1/8th, while this MK4 does 147 in the 1/4. Obviously the car is ruined for anything but straight lines including street driving, but its untouchable for what it was built for.
@pitbullsdog Lol wow you got to get away from the computer games! yes its a quick little engine but get real at 900 to 1500 is the top hp for this engine and it needs forced induction to get those numbers and I would bet nitrous also. The hemi put out over 600hp witout forced induction, just carbs and top hp for a hemi has been recorded at over 8000hp and that was a 60s drag car. show me a 2jz that can put out that kinda hp and I'll be impressed.
@68chargerlover yes but the V8's with 8000hp are the funny cars and the long skinny drag cars with the use of HIGH octane fuel. its where they get most of the power from. other than that they are just regularly modded 800hp v8's. so far imports have not majorly gotten into the funny car class. but, there is a import funny car that has 4000hp from an 4cylinder.
@68chargerlover yeah because the new V8's now use technology to a point where you cant get as much horsepower as the old V8's. i believe hennesy only got 500ho out of the new camaro, but theres old camaros pushing over 1000whp.
@68chargerlover idk, there is an evo 9 with 700hp. FULL interior, NO roll cage , fully drivable, AC as well, NO nitrous, full audio system and with street tires it runs ALMOST 8 seconds (in the 9.1's). and there are supras with OVER 1700++WHP dully drivable and street legal as well. the other thing is, you DONT need such a big engine to go fast. America is good with their huge V8's and superchargers, while Jap's are good with small 4cyl., v6 and turbo's.
@JDMforever11 That evo needs a big turbo to get that 700hp and more then likely nitrous. Same with the supras, turbos with tons of boost. I know guys running in the 7s with their muscle cars. Look at the top hp that can be attained from a imports vs the top hp from a v8. That will tell you which has more potential. Plus the muscle cars have an attitude and coolness that you just cant get from an import
@68chargerlover the evo DID NOT use nitrous and was on PUMP GAS. and this supra mk4 on the video is not at 1300++whp with no nitrous. and theres supra's in the 7's as well. titan motorsports supra ran 7.68 and went to burger king, boost logic's supra ran 7.58 at 195, and vinny tens supra did 7.30 spinning out at the start.
@JDMforever11 yes on pump gas with a bunch of boost. Any engine makes power with forced induction. Theres been v8s in the 4s since the 60s and going over 300mph, i'm no knocking imports i love the STI, they can get nice power an still great gas mileage. But the muscle cars are legends that you have to respect, and the V8s in them are still at the top, after all these years theres still no imports to beat the records set by them for all out power and top speed
@68chargerlover im not knocking muscle either. im not 100% JDM even though my account says it. i dislike hondas with a passion, i like ALL cars from ALL nations. and once again, the V8's your talking about have alcohol/high octane airplane gas that you cant compare even to your V8. i thought we were still talking about street legal.
@JDMforever11 Uhmm no the cars your talking about also need high octane, even a factory sti recomends running on premieum fuel. Those imports also have to run methonal injection. There were hemis putting out over 600hp factory right off the show room floor and ran carburation and pump gas, no forced induction. Sorry the v8 is and always will be the top dog
@JDMforever11 Like I said when your dealing with higher hp you want high octain fuels. The difference is you need forced induction on an import to get the same hp as a v8 gets without and just a carb.And torque is another subject a v8 makes way way more torque.
@68chargerlover hah...V8's are high compression to start. you cant turbo them right away because the motor will blow from the high compression. you would have to have the motor professionally built with forged internals. an NA build is more expensive too. as for an import turbo, the motor is built to take on more boost and more power. the 2JZGTE will take over 800++whp on stock internals.
@JDMforever11 imports are high compression also the forced indution creates high compression thats what makes power. A muslce car engine has high compression which is the same as adding tons of boost, its the amount of air your compressing just different ways of doing it. A muscle car has forged internals, forged crankshaft and block plus the hemi has cross bolting with makes it extra strong. Imports are mostly almuminum.
@68chargerlover imports are NOT high compression. the highest comrpession on an import turbo would be 8:5.1, thats not high. and the internals of the 2JZGTE are COMPLETELY FORGED.
@JDMforever11 forced induction does force air into the cylinder causeing the same as high compression its just a different way of doing it. a turboed car has to have low comression but after the air is forced into the cylinder and the intake valve closed theres a high volume of air fuel compressed. The muscle car engine is also forged, wonder where the japs learned that lol Pull the tubo off your import see how it does without the mass air compresed in the cylinder
@68chargerlover hmm, pull off your supercharger from your cobra and see how well it does WITHOUT the supercharger. or pull off the massive turbo from the grand national and see how well it does NA. and plus i also do know that mustang 5.0's only make 225hp out of a 5.0 V8? and 0-60 of 6.7 seconds? how shocking!
@JDMforever11 I dont have a super charger on my 68 charger its just a 572 hemi and it has a carburator, its running 10.3-1 compression and making 800hp and 800flbs of torque. And I never said I like mustangs lol
@JDMforever11 I think the best would be to own an import like the STI or EVO for a daily driver then when I want to really turn heads and for the power, coolness and attitude I would pull out my muscle car.
@68chargerlover im not into STI's or EVO's, im into OLD SCHOOL imports. theyre much lighter,more powerful than todays imports. im not even into supras much theyre used too much. im into datsuns/old school nissans like the 300ZX twin turbo.
@JDMforever11 we had my sti up to 400hp, and I like the retro muscle car looks they took, the big wing ( from the superbird) and the hood scoop ( all other muscle cars)
@68chargerlover hell yeah lol. ive been into cars since i was like 3. my favorite game was gran turismo and my favorite car when i was 3 used to be the dodge viper. i remember getting pissed cus i kept losing races and i never had enough money to buy the viper lol. im 14 now.
@JDMforever11 well dont quit learning theres alot out there,the car hobby is fun, I have been into cars since I was little also. Set a goal on your dream car and dont give up, you'll reach your dreams I did, in general car guys are good people as long as they stick together. I found my dream car in a garage, its an old school drag car thats been garaged for 30 yrs, they guy had to sell because of marriage problems.Go to car shows get ideas dont be afraid to talk to the guys that have been around
@JDMforever11 9s we are working on the inteiror now. it runs on pump gas, no super charger or other form of forced induttion. and 10-1 compression I wanted it to be street worthy
@JDMforever11 it may not have but it did run high octane fuel, like I said I like some imports too I owned an 04 sti and loved it, but my charger is way more powerful. No matter what you say the muscle cars are still top dawg
@68chargerlover if your going to make high HP turbo out of ANY car you need high octane. EVEN 87 OCTANE is not good for ANY NA car. 87 does not burn up completely and it gunks up your valves.
@JDMforever11 Yeah i agree fuel now days sucks it use to be real good at the pumps they use to have 110 octane now its watered down crap that you dump your pay check into. I remember fuel at 99cents
@68chargerlover it used to be 110 octane? dam! what also REALLY sucks about todays gas is that its now has 10% methanol, which damages 2stroke motors. i have a 2005 yamaha yz125 MX dirtbike, so i should be expecting a top-end rebuild soon.
@68chargerlover yeah tell me about it and whatsup with these new cars? nissan CUBE? chevy aveo? these stupid shitbox cars are gonna be the future? how sad!
@JDMforever11 yeah scary, they say fuel prices are going to get worse alot has to do with demand and how much fuel the refineries can make, the last refinery was built in 1976, they cant keep up with demand. But there is trillions of gallons of fuel its just that the epa dont want anymore drilling and the current administration dont want any new refineries
@68chargerlover wow thats sad. i hear gas prices were gonna get to 8 dollars a gallon. over here its $2.90 for premium. all the time i wish i could go back into the earlier times.
@JDMforever11 I agree, and the tree huggers, I mean get real global warming is happening, we are still leaving the ice age, we are just going back to the way the earth was before it.
@JDMforever11 lol where do you think the ice caps like the north and south pole came from all that is still melting. Look at Galacier national park. Its natural, not caused by man, and holes in the ozone arent from carbon monoxide lol science tells you that carbon is heavier then air so how the hell does it rise lol
@JDMforever11 25 cents would be nice i'm just pointing out how much politics has affected the price. and the funny thing is Russia and China are drilling like crazy and building refineries like nuts.
@68chargerlover its a 1990 nissan 300zx . it probably has hesitation because the owner put on the wrong spark plugs. the VG30DE/DETT motor were designed with 1 plug in mind, they were NGK something, i'll have to look it up. theres a video on it.
@JDMforever11 yeah but its strange that it can only get to that rmp, its like its being restricted or maybe its not getting the fuel. Its hard to diagnosed over youtube lol
@68chargerlover lol same here maybe it has dirty fuel injectors??? whatever im taking out the motor and im swapping it out to a twin turbo motor. its an NA.
@68chargerlover lol yeah. but, if the engine doesnt make any knowking noises im sure it just needs a tune up. its probably not getting enough fuel from dirty and clogged up fuel injectors making it bog.
@JDMforever11 as well as titan motorsports celica and another car running the 2jzgte engine which is 6.6 on the 1/4. 68chargerlover is just a riceboy who gives true carenthusiests bad names. he even had the gall to assume that the toyota 2000gt one of the most legendary sports cars, was a low end japanese sports caryes hes going to say i said the supra was an exotic, to which i say it was, because it was/is rare, made from high end materials, was not cheap for its time (it would cost $100k now)
@68chargerlover "same with supras" uhhh ryan whoon's supra has no nitrous and those supras jdm mentioned dont either. again you got MUCH learning to do kid.
as for the top end of an import ie the 2jzgte.. so far its gotten over 2200bhp on it without nitrous, titan motorsports
@PD19954 any 6banger with forced induction can make 1500hp with the turbo boost turned up, hell look at the cummins. and you wont see 8000hp from a 2jz
@PD19954 oh yeah theres 6 bangers built in the 60s that had fordge steel internals. And I wouldnt say the supra is super relieble either, they have tranny problems,and when all that hp and torque is thrown at it the rear ends have problems too.
@22Horndogstorm exactly, it was a stronge motor. Some idiots think the japs had some secret technology to make power in an engine, when there isnt any they just took an inline six and slapped a turbo on it, big woop, any engine even a slant six could be made fast with forced induction.
@68chargerlover Forced induction wasn't meant to be the first course of action to make power anyway. It should be the last. There are big block cars that easily make 800-1100HP off of two 4-barrels. I don't see any inline-6 making half that w/o turbo(s). Lol
@22Horndogstorm I know, I have a 68 prostreet charger that has a 572 hemi that was dynoed at 800hp and its sweet to drive, it has 10-1 compression and runs on pump gas.
@68chargerlover thats a bad ass machine you got there mate! But in light to all the conversation,700,800,900,1000hp everyone here bitches about how it got there,honestly who gives a crap,if a civic can run 9's all motor, a blown chevy can make 3200hp,an inline six can make 1000hp, the journey there doesnt mean crap so long as its there and doing work,we need to quit this import and muscle seperation,and seperate it by asshole car owners instead
@fresh81steez exactly any car can be quick, but making it really fast is another thing. Also you have to look at the top potental of the engine, a 5 banger can be real fast but when it comes to being really fast the more cubic inches the better.
@PD19954 The 1uz is a v8, for one. and you don't see many 2jz, 1uz, 7m, rb26, or any other japanese motors in top fuel. imo, that is the highest level of performance you can reach. ALL of the top fuel engines make 8000+ HP, and are ALL based off of a Chrysler HEMI. therefore, that is the best engine on the planet for performance.
Yeah 10.41 versus 9.84 for Ryan Woon in his monster 900 hp MK4. Good thing he wasn't racing Shawn Cassidy in his Monster killing silver 7mgte ...Shawn's run 9.44 and faster so that would have been a nice MK3 win. lol
And I agree that the body style of the MK3 is still SWEET. I get compliments on mine every time I drive her.
The MK3 is cheaper since it's older but to find one in great shape like i did is tough. And then you need an expert to mod it. It's finally at 600 hp with a Haltech ECU, and a tonne of mods inside and out and I've spent over $60k. The guy workin on it now has one even faster & it only cost him $15k but he has the experience, skill and knowledge to do it.
The MK4 is overpriced due to the Fast n the Furious. It has more mods & options out there because it's newer. With a 2jz the MK3 can run over 1,000 hp with a 1j at 800+ and with a 7mgte over 600+ so it''s all a matter of budget & desire. I love the MK3 but will probably pick up a nice MK4 one day too.
The theory on the Fast and the Furious is perposturous. People buy supras for their engines, their looks, or a combination of both. They are easy motors to make fast and can, like you said, withstand a high amount of power.
dont forget about reliablilty of the 2jz and the gertrac 6speed in the mkiv. you can sell that alone and get an mkiii easy. i paid 6k for mine and its one of the rariest mkiii's availible 92 teal targa turbo 5 speed and shadow grey interior. the 7m's only problem is lack of revs, head gasket, and supporting mods parts are becoming harder and harder to find.
Chargerlover u r missing big picture jap and euro cars make a lot more power per cubic inch then most domestic muscle example 5.0L stock 225 Hp 2.0l non turbo Jdm 225 Hp sorry can't compare engineering back in 80s and 90s domestics r finally catching
1danvivaldi 1 month ago
sounds like dentist drill
ivanhoe0007 4 months ago
sleeper mk3
17EVn 6 months ago
awesome cars
Pablo777619 7 months ago
damn close race considering the differance in power !! Awesome job for the mk3
TheRodneybreen 7 months ago
isnt there a 1176 or something like that orange mk3 supra?
7fstuned 7 months ago
I'd love to put a 2JZ into a MKIII Supra
TheRogueSS 7 months ago
@TheRogueSS The stock 7m is quite amazing. And more impressive when you kill people with the stock engine.
supramanz 7 months ago
i dont have a job at the moment. so running out and buying one is not an option. but i will look into it :D
bshawn41 8 months ago
i want to make a geo metro that has 1000hp and smoke people with it lol take these supras down a peg lmao
eXp0N3nT1aL 8 months ago
@eXp0N3nT1aL yet thats a geo metro, this (the supra) was a semi exotic, rare sports car. it wasnt some toy kid.
PD19954 4 months ago
thats all that supra has is 900hp wow i could build a 1000hp chevy for 7 grand not 20 like this. i thought it had at least 1000hp. man this just goes to show imports just aint worth doing.
cbr900rr919 8 months ago in playlist american muscle vs tuners
@cbr900rr919 This car has over 1000HP at the crank, and the engine work is probably in the 15k$ range, and there is no wayyy in hell you're gonna get 1kHP out of a V8 for less than 10k, unless it's a 572 and they cost nearly 10 grand on their own...
kkage2 7 months ago
@kkage2 Are you implying that you can put 15k in to a TT supra and gain 660ish hp?! Ya right!
CJDaTman 7 months ago
@CJDaTman 1000HP at the crank yes, which is like 800+rwhp, and 15k in only the motor, 5k for turbo/intake/exhaust, 5k for engine managment and fuel system, 5k for 3.2l stroker with pistons/rods/crank/etc..
if would be expensive to have it tuned, but assuming you do all the work and tune it yourself, it would be about 15k.
kkage2 7 months ago
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mrg302 4 months ago
@cbr900rr919 A 1000ish hp bbc/sbc cost about 40k buddy. Don't just say something to say something. Do a little research first. lol nelsonracingengines baby!
mrg302 4 months ago
sexy ass cutout on that MK3
BruzedHQ 9 months ago
the legendary mk3 vs the legendary mk4
Sonicku 9 months ago
I saw the time the mk 3 was of by one second
Keeskidcool 11 months ago
WOONS=1340 NOT 900
alexdriftersupraman 11 months ago
both cars are mad sexy,
xxxEmmureOwnxxx 11 months ago
Wow fast as fuck I am a mrk3 person tho I love the 7mgte
supra87lover 11 months ago
0:12-0:20 - sounds like 2 cats talking before fight. ;)
ssm80taurus 1 year ago
turbo tony in the oj
DirtridinElCamino 1 year ago
Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love Supras
500hpb20 1 year ago 4
i own a mk2 supra and i just wanted to say...
SUPRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wheatiesnike 1 year ago
1200 whp vs 1475 whp
flyjum 1 year ago
his supra got bad custom i got supra 1991 im selling it on craigslist real shit just go sf type supra and ma last price for dat thing is 11.000
guztomo24 1 year ago
wonder what its like to go that fast...?
bshawn41 1 year ago 36
@bshawn41 Kill your worst enemy.... 10 times better then that! lol
unlimitedsupra 1 year ago
@bshawn41 like very rough anal sex
itsmeshawman 1 year ago
@bshawn41
buy a supra and you too can know what its like to go fast !
waytokrazy 1 year ago
@waytokrazy not enough money :((
bshawn41 1 year ago
@bshawn41 man the mk3's really are pretty cheap. They have gone up in price slightly in the last few years but they are still reasonable. A mint low mile turbo is worth around 7k max. N/A's are dirt cheap and then do whatever swap u want and have some cheap good fun. I got two mk3's for 2700 and they both were great running cars. RIP my 88' AUTO. Hit a deer around 75mph and pushed the radiator support back about 5 inches and the deer rapped around the whole drivers side.parts car now.
mkIIIsupras 8 months ago
@mkIIIsupras Mine cost in excess of 20k. The engines usually need a rebuild, the cars need paint jobs, restoration work, clutch and brakes, all sorts of shit. They are old. And parts for them you can only get from toyota. And even hoses can be $100. They are not cheap.
supramanz 7 months ago
@bshawn41 there is a video of ryan woon running 8 secs. search up wotm and i think its the second vid
richrich27 10 months ago
@bshawn41 intense like acid (:
fstylezkrNNN 9 months ago
@bshawn41 like cumming on yourself multiple times
deathking137 4 months ago
1400 change the info
TheCarbon26 1 year ago
SUPRA'S ARE THE BEST CARS IN THE WORLD
gussy619wwe 1 year ago
I've seen that same mk4 push 1400 hp.
FTDOOM 1 year ago
@FTDOOM Ya this car has 1400...IDK why he said 900
JLDG4 1 year ago
too much speed, not enough turn
HamsterJunior97 1 year ago 25
@HamsterJunior97 Nobody gives a shit about turn. Speed is what everyone cares about! Bugatti came out everone wanted to know the speed of the thing not how many fucking turns can it do on a circut going 130 when it can top at over 220 on a straight.
unlimitedsupra 6 months ago
fasr mk3 and fast mk4 to have a 6 speed
LIBNOSIS 1 year ago
its dont matter which one win cus supra own
HmongSD 1 year ago
both cars are mosters that mk4 got boosted on the 3 gear but there both fast it was a good race.
george5751 1 year ago
1 second is a huge difference in this sport, even in racing consisting of several laps its considered a large amount of time.
Stop arguing people for fuck sake love one another!
if you find that funny think about why your country is at WAR!
d240786 1 year ago
UdontNoME91 please dont start shit ok i dont have time for your words like i sad 2JZ IS THE MOST POWERFUL ENGINE EVER BUILD OK tell me something if there is a street car muscle with 4000 rwhp tell me please tell me i dont give a fuck if it has turbo or not 2jz supra is inline 6 and look how much power it makes dude street supra goes 1/4 mile in just 7.5 sec some drag muscle cars dont go that fast im not hating on muscle i like muscle cars to but dude u are in my face .
pitbullsdog 1 year ago
@pitbullsdog actually, vinny ten's supra did 7.30 on wheel spin at 195mph and its street legal too.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
2JZ IS THE most powerful engine ever build ever EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT but u got to respect 7m gte TO I mean they make great power the record for 7m gte now is 8.6 1/4 mile its the fastest mk3 supra ever its on YOUTUBE go and see type in Toyota Supra 7mGTE 8.62 sec u see
pitbullsdog 1 year ago
@pitbullsdog 2jz is not he most powerful engine but its ok alot american muscle that drags legit can get like 4000 hp without turbos lol
UdontNoME91 1 year ago
@UdontNoME91 I want to see american muscle push 1500hp and be daily drivable with cold a/c like a 2j can
boricua1142005 1 year ago
@boricua1142005
Who cares. A/C is for pussies.
JDMracer1212 1 year ago
@JDMracer1212 This is at Vegas speedway..
unlimitedsupra 1 year ago
@unlimitedsupra
ok...
JDMracer1212 1 year ago
@boricua1142005
Nelson racing has a 2000hp small block with A/C and over 1000 dyno pulls on it showing no signs of wear. Any turbo motor is daily drivable when its not making boost. They even put one in a supra, minus the A/C watch?v=TkUTunWNL9o
bmays002 1 year ago
I just noticed the nelson small block goes 147mph in the 1/8th, while this MK4 does 147 in the 1/4. Obviously the car is ruined for anything but straight lines including street driving, but its untouchable for what it was built for.
bmays002 1 year ago
@bmays002 WOW!! Is there a Supra , or any imports, that are doing that kind of trap speed in the 1/8th?
rhpicayune 1 year ago
@pitbullsdog Lol wow you got to get away from the computer games! yes its a quick little engine but get real at 900 to 1500 is the top hp for this engine and it needs forced induction to get those numbers and I would bet nitrous also. The hemi put out over 600hp witout forced induction, just carbs and top hp for a hemi has been recorded at over 8000hp and that was a 60s drag car. show me a 2jz that can put out that kinda hp and I'll be impressed.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover yes but the V8's with 8000hp are the funny cars and the long skinny drag cars with the use of HIGH octane fuel. its where they get most of the power from. other than that they are just regularly modded 800hp v8's. so far imports have not majorly gotten into the funny car class. but, there is a import funny car that has 4000hp from an 4cylinder.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 the v8s running 8000hp and going over 300mph were done in the 60s. So the imports can do well but the kings will always be the v8s
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover yeah because the new V8's now use technology to a point where you cant get as much horsepower as the old V8's. i believe hennesy only got 500ho out of the new camaro, but theres old camaros pushing over 1000whp.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 my hemi puts out 800hp on pump gas without forced induction, just a carb and I drive it on the street.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover but also remember, they get 8000hp from the HIGH octane they use. they usually have about 800hp without the fuel.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 they use alchohol, my point is you cant get as much power from an import engine as you can a hemi. bigger is better
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover idk, there is an evo 9 with 700hp. FULL interior, NO roll cage , fully drivable, AC as well, NO nitrous, full audio system and with street tires it runs ALMOST 8 seconds (in the 9.1's). and there are supras with OVER 1700++WHP dully drivable and street legal as well. the other thing is, you DONT need such a big engine to go fast. America is good with their huge V8's and superchargers, while Jap's are good with small 4cyl., v6 and turbo's.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 i forgot to add the evo was also on pump gas as well.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 That evo needs a big turbo to get that 700hp and more then likely nitrous. Same with the supras, turbos with tons of boost. I know guys running in the 7s with their muscle cars. Look at the top hp that can be attained from a imports vs the top hp from a v8. That will tell you which has more potential. Plus the muscle cars have an attitude and coolness that you just cant get from an import
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover the evo DID NOT use nitrous and was on PUMP GAS. and this supra mk4 on the video is not at 1300++whp with no nitrous. and theres supra's in the 7's as well. titan motorsports supra ran 7.68 and went to burger king, boost logic's supra ran 7.58 at 195, and vinny tens supra did 7.30 spinning out at the start.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yes on pump gas with a bunch of boost. Any engine makes power with forced induction. Theres been v8s in the 4s since the 60s and going over 300mph, i'm no knocking imports i love the STI, they can get nice power an still great gas mileage. But the muscle cars are legends that you have to respect, and the V8s in them are still at the top, after all these years theres still no imports to beat the records set by them for all out power and top speed
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover im not knocking muscle either. im not 100% JDM even though my account says it. i dislike hondas with a passion, i like ALL cars from ALL nations. and once again, the V8's your talking about have alcohol/high octane airplane gas that you cant compare even to your V8. i thought we were still talking about street legal.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 Uhmm no the cars your talking about also need high octane, even a factory sti recomends running on premieum fuel. Those imports also have to run methonal injection. There were hemis putting out over 600hp factory right off the show room floor and ran carburation and pump gas, no forced induction. Sorry the v8 is and always will be the top dog
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover the factory recomend that you use premium on an STI because its a turbo car. it goes the same as turbo V8's.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 Like I said when your dealing with higher hp you want high octain fuels. The difference is you need forced induction on an import to get the same hp as a v8 gets without and just a carb.And torque is another subject a v8 makes way way more torque.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover hah...V8's are high compression to start. you cant turbo them right away because the motor will blow from the high compression. you would have to have the motor professionally built with forged internals. an NA build is more expensive too. as for an import turbo, the motor is built to take on more boost and more power. the 2JZGTE will take over 800++whp on stock internals.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 imports are high compression also the forced indution creates high compression thats what makes power. A muslce car engine has high compression which is the same as adding tons of boost, its the amount of air your compressing just different ways of doing it. A muscle car has forged internals, forged crankshaft and block plus the hemi has cross bolting with makes it extra strong. Imports are mostly almuminum.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover imports are NOT high compression. the highest comrpession on an import turbo would be 8:5.1, thats not high. and the internals of the 2JZGTE are COMPLETELY FORGED.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 forced induction does force air into the cylinder causeing the same as high compression its just a different way of doing it. a turboed car has to have low comression but after the air is forced into the cylinder and the intake valve closed theres a high volume of air fuel compressed. The muscle car engine is also forged, wonder where the japs learned that lol Pull the tubo off your import see how it does without the mass air compresed in the cylinder
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover hmm, pull off your supercharger from your cobra and see how well it does WITHOUT the supercharger. or pull off the massive turbo from the grand national and see how well it does NA. and plus i also do know that mustang 5.0's only make 225hp out of a 5.0 V8? and 0-60 of 6.7 seconds? how shocking!
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 I dont have a super charger on my 68 charger its just a 572 hemi and it has a carburator, its running 10.3-1 compression and making 800hp and 800flbs of torque. And I never said I like mustangs lol
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover lol. just saying. there are muscle that will REQUIRE forced induction. im a chevy person myself.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 Big blocks dont really need forced induction, they are the best to me
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 I think the best would be to own an import like the STI or EVO for a daily driver then when I want to really turn heads and for the power, coolness and attitude I would pull out my muscle car.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover im not into STI's or EVO's, im into OLD SCHOOL imports. theyre much lighter,more powerful than todays imports. im not even into supras much theyre used too much. im into datsuns/old school nissans like the 300ZX twin turbo.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 we had my sti up to 400hp, and I like the retro muscle car looks they took, the big wing ( from the superbird) and the hood scoop ( all other muscle cars)
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover i agree. im into old school muscle as well. i dont like the new muscle cars.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 I kinda like the challenger and the new camaro, but the rustangs stink
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover tell me about lol the rustangs stink. an NA 300zx will beat them lol.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yeah cars can be a head ache and fun has hell why do you think guys refer to their cars as she lol , yup shes a beauty
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover hell yeah lol. ive been into cars since i was like 3. my favorite game was gran turismo and my favorite car when i was 3 used to be the dodge viper. i remember getting pissed cus i kept losing races and i never had enough money to buy the viper lol. im 14 now.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 well dont quit learning theres alot out there,the car hobby is fun, I have been into cars since I was little also. Set a goal on your dream car and dont give up, you'll reach your dreams I did, in general car guys are good people as long as they stick together. I found my dream car in a garage, its an old school drag car thats been garaged for 30 yrs, they guy had to sell because of marriage problems.Go to car shows get ideas dont be afraid to talk to the guys that have been around
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover cool is it that charger? chargers are hot.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yeah its a 1968 prostreet charger with a 572 hemi, two tone blue
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover nice. what was your fastest 1/4 pass
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 9s we are working on the inteiror now. it runs on pump gas, no super charger or other form of forced induttion. and 10-1 compression I wanted it to be street worthy
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover nice.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@68chargerlover the evo did not run on meth either. mid 9's on pump and low 9's on race.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 it may not have but it did run high octane fuel, like I said I like some imports too I owned an 04 sti and loved it, but my charger is way more powerful. No matter what you say the muscle cars are still top dawg
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover and 380hp was the best you could take it? come on, thats weak even if it was a 4cyl.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@68chargerlover if your going to make high HP turbo out of ANY car you need high octane. EVEN 87 OCTANE is not good for ANY NA car. 87 does not burn up completely and it gunks up your valves.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 Yeah i agree fuel now days sucks it use to be real good at the pumps they use to have 110 octane now its watered down crap that you dump your pay check into. I remember fuel at 99cents
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover it used to be 110 octane? dam! what also REALLY sucks about todays gas is that its now has 10% methanol, which damages 2stroke motors. i have a 2005 yamaha yz125 MX dirtbike, so i should be expecting a top-end rebuild soon.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yeah and sad thing is the fuel issues are only going to get worse
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover yeah tell me about it and whatsup with these new cars? nissan CUBE? chevy aveo? these stupid shitbox cars are gonna be the future? how sad!
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yeah scary, they say fuel prices are going to get worse alot has to do with demand and how much fuel the refineries can make, the last refinery was built in 1976, they cant keep up with demand. But there is trillions of gallons of fuel its just that the epa dont want anymore drilling and the current administration dont want any new refineries
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover wow thats sad. i hear gas prices were gonna get to 8 dollars a gallon. over here its $2.90 for premium. all the time i wish i could go back into the earlier times.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yeah sad thing is in the aribic nations its around 25cents a gallon. Most of the problem is greed and politics
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover yeah i agree but the major problem is Obama. he started ALL of this.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 I agree, and the tree huggers, I mean get real global warming is happening, we are still leaving the ice age, we are just going back to the way the earth was before it.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover DAM the ice age hasent ended yet?
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 lol where do you think the ice caps like the north and south pole came from all that is still melting. Look at Galacier national park. Its natural, not caused by man, and holes in the ozone arent from carbon monoxide lol science tells you that carbon is heavier then air so how the hell does it rise lol
68chargerlover 1 year ago
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JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 me too
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover dam this suckks......
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@68chargerlover they can keep their 25 cents i rather be christian and pay 2 dollars than pay 25 cents and get screwed over 10 times Jihad.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 25 cents would be nice i'm just pointing out how much politics has affected the price. and the funny thing is Russia and China are drilling like crazy and building refineries like nuts.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover hey im gonna go see a car with a problem it has a rough idle and wont go past 2k rpm wat do you think is wrong with it?
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 does it have a catalatic converter? could it be restricted?
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover im not sure. my dad said it could be a blown motor.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@68chargerlover its a 1990 nissan 300zx . it probably has hesitation because the owner put on the wrong spark plugs. the VG30DE/DETT motor were designed with 1 plug in mind, they were NGK something, i'll have to look it up. theres a video on it.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 yeah but its strange that it can only get to that rmp, its like its being restricted or maybe its not getting the fuel. Its hard to diagnosed over youtube lol
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover lol same here maybe it has dirty fuel injectors??? whatever im taking out the motor and im swapping it out to a twin turbo motor. its an NA.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 nothing like a nice rebuild I guess lol
68chargerlover 1 year ago
@68chargerlover lol yeah. but, if the engine doesnt make any knowking noises im sure it just needs a tune up. its probably not getting enough fuel from dirty and clogged up fuel injectors making it bog.
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@68chargerlover that SUCKS. but america is still the best nation. wouldnt live any where else
JDMforever11 1 year ago
@JDMforever11 as well as titan motorsports celica and another car running the 2jzgte engine which is 6.6 on the 1/4. 68chargerlover is just a riceboy who gives true carenthusiests bad names. he even had the gall to assume that the toyota 2000gt one of the most legendary sports cars, was a low end japanese sports caryes hes going to say i said the supra was an exotic, to which i say it was, because it was/is rare, made from high end materials, was not cheap for its time (it would cost $100k now)
PD19954 4 months ago
@68chargerlover "same with supras" uhhh ryan whoon's supra has no nitrous and those supras jdm mentioned dont either. again you got MUCH learning to do kid.
as for the top end of an import ie the 2jzgte.. so far its gotten over 2200bhp on it without nitrous, titan motorsports
PD19954 4 months ago
@68chargerlover what about the bob norwood max 4 rice boy?
PD19954 4 months ago
@68chargerlover what about the bob norwood max 4
PD19954 4 months ago
@68chargerlover sorry kiddo, ther are several on to4r.com making 1500bhp on boost alone, no nitrous, marko d being one of them.
as for 8000bhp, not a 2jz but a 4 cylider, hows that?
PD19954 4 months ago
@PD19954 any 6banger with forced induction can make 1500hp with the turbo boost turned up, hell look at the cummins. and you wont see 8000hp from a 2jz
68chargerlover 4 months ago
@68chargerlover nope but have with a 1uz.
and ANY six banger with forced induction? what about stock parts and also being relible in the long run?
PD19954 4 months ago
@PD19954 oh yeah theres 6 bangers built in the 60s that had fordge steel internals. And I wouldnt say the supra is super relieble either, they have tranny problems,and when all that hp and torque is thrown at it the rear ends have problems too.
68chargerlover 4 months ago
@68chargerlover The Chrysler 225 slant-6 would outlast three bodies if you change the oil. haha
22Horndogstorm 4 months ago
@22Horndogstorm exactly, it was a stronge motor. Some idiots think the japs had some secret technology to make power in an engine, when there isnt any they just took an inline six and slapped a turbo on it, big woop, any engine even a slant six could be made fast with forced induction.
68chargerlover 4 months ago
@68chargerlover Forced induction wasn't meant to be the first course of action to make power anyway. It should be the last. There are big block cars that easily make 800-1100HP off of two 4-barrels. I don't see any inline-6 making half that w/o turbo(s). Lol
22Horndogstorm 4 months ago
@22Horndogstorm I know, I have a 68 prostreet charger that has a 572 hemi that was dynoed at 800hp and its sweet to drive, it has 10-1 compression and runs on pump gas.
68chargerlover 4 months ago
@68chargerlover thats a bad ass machine you got there mate! But in light to all the conversation,700,800,900,1000hp everyone here bitches about how it got there,honestly who gives a crap,if a civic can run 9's all motor, a blown chevy can make 3200hp,an inline six can make 1000hp, the journey there doesnt mean crap so long as its there and doing work,we need to quit this import and muscle seperation,and seperate it by asshole car owners instead
fresh81steez 3 months ago
@fresh81steez exactly any car can be quick, but making it really fast is another thing. Also you have to look at the top potental of the engine, a 5 banger can be real fast but when it comes to being really fast the more cubic inches the better.
68chargerlover 3 months ago
@PD19954 The 1uz is a v8, for one. and you don't see many 2jz, 1uz, 7m, rb26, or any other japanese motors in top fuel. imo, that is the highest level of performance you can reach. ALL of the top fuel engines make 8000+ HP, and are ALL based off of a Chrysler HEMI. therefore, that is the best engine on the planet for performance.
22Horndogstorm 4 months ago
@22Horndogstorm for drag yes, for road racing,, good luck, and if you dont see any.. check out what they are doing wtih them in australia.
PD19954 4 months ago
@22Horndogstorm try australia
PD19954 4 months ago
Those I6's are lethal!!!!
idontknow5858 1 year ago
The Supra is one of the best sports car ever made...
mk3s & mk4s still do the 'job' even nowdays! Big respect..
SairousClaou 1 year ago
much resqect to that mk3 with only 700hp
EnjukuRacing70 1 year ago
holy shit that mk3 is pretty badass, respect is given.
brandon75711 1 year ago
Ryans is for a monster but i have to give it up to the MKIII just cause i have one and i love it
rickyz20 1 year ago
That was close!
whiteynator 1 year ago
my maxima would woot woottt woootttt... i wish.. damn
BrooklynTony1 1 year ago
who won
2raceimports 2 years ago
supra
pacarato99 2 years ago
the supra won. .. the silver one.
silver-9.84
orange-10.41
dwnrety1 2 years ago
Yeah 10.41 versus 9.84 for Ryan Woon in his monster 900 hp MK4. Good thing he wasn't racing Shawn Cassidy in his Monster killing silver 7mgte ...Shawn's run 9.44 and faster so that would have been a nice MK3 win. lol
And I agree that the body style of the MK3 is still SWEET. I get compliments on mine every time I drive her.
JCFsupraman 2 years ago
there only thing i got to say is the toyota supra mk3 and mk4 they are both sick in there own way
SPIDERMAN2015 2 years ago
i totally agree. They are the sweetest Jap sports car ever made and with killer modding potential.
JCFsupraman 2 years ago
yep i having hard time picking which one do i want to get the supra mk3 or mk4 i like the mk4 but the mk3 is also kool
SPIDERMAN2015 2 years ago
The MK3 is cheaper since it's older but to find one in great shape like i did is tough. And then you need an expert to mod it. It's finally at 600 hp with a Haltech ECU, and a tonne of mods inside and out and I've spent over $60k. The guy workin on it now has one even faster & it only cost him $15k but he has the experience, skill and knowledge to do it.
JCFsupraman 2 years ago
The MK4 is overpriced due to the Fast n the Furious. It has more mods & options out there because it's newer. With a 2jz the MK3 can run over 1,000 hp with a 1j at 800+ and with a 7mgte over 600+ so it''s all a matter of budget & desire. I love the MK3 but will probably pick up a nice MK4 one day too.
JCFsupraman 2 years ago
yea but it depend on how much money you have to fix up and the expericnce you know how put the car and the cost lol
SPIDERMAN2015 2 years ago
The theory on the Fast and the Furious is perposturous. People buy supras for their engines, their looks, or a combination of both. They are easy motors to make fast and can, like you said, withstand a high amount of power.
RELOADED0000 2 years ago 3
dont forget about reliablilty of the 2jz and the gertrac 6speed in the mkiv. you can sell that alone and get an mkiii easy. i paid 6k for mine and its one of the rariest mkiii's availible 92 teal targa turbo 5 speed and shadow grey interior. the 7m's only problem is lack of revs, head gasket, and supporting mods parts are becoming harder and harder to find.
DirtridinElCamino 1 year ago
@JCFsupraman same here, i tend to get compliments all the time, saving for 2jzgte swap
redsmurf02 2 years ago
it looks like the mk3 got a better start which is ofcourse the most important part of a drag
XclassicXrokerX 2 years ago
Supra VS Supra...Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Turbosaunderground 2 years ago 2
was woon's time 9.04?
InitialDirt 2 years ago
i think its 9.84 but yes thats his time he won the race
peterbuilt91 2 years ago
yeah
turbineaddict3 2 years ago
now it really wouldnt be close, woons new car is 1400hp no spray all boost.
BooSSted07Cobalt 2 years ago