I didnt understand some guys comments...They said that....come on .this is Shostakovich..,Mravinsky...you guys didn,t know about that...this is so genius..so just shut up your dirty stupid mouth....just Get Lost!!
Sua Maestà Evgeny Mravinsky in un video di splendida nitidezza, mentre dirige meravigliosamente Shostakovitch, ancora una volta meravigliosamente ! Che emozione !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 3:55-5:00 it sounds like Nazi mechanized columns on the advance, artfully portrayed by Shostakovich with all the brutal bombast one would associate with a primitive barbarian invasion. Reminds me of the 2nd movement of the 5th symphony, which I've been told was intended to show how bad Hitler and other dictaors were, and to mock them at the same time.
"it sounds like Nazi mechanized columns" - who knows, maybe Soviet? Soviet spirit. When millions of people were dying after the Second World War for nothing. Millions! This Symphony is much more about Stalin, than about nazis. I'm Russian, I can feel it.
@MrCellistus Knowing that this symphony was written and/or performed during WWII probably caused me to think of the Nazis. Otherwise I too might be more reminded of Stalin while listening to it. Brutal yet beautiful piece of music this is.
"it sounds like Nazi mechanized columns" - who knows, maybe Soviet? Soviet spirit. When millions of people were dying after the Second World War for nothing. Millions! This Symphony is much more about Stalin, than about nazis. I'm Russian, I can feel it.
I think 2:21 has got to be the most tortured outcry ever written down in music; that semitone clash of the trumpets with utter chaos surrounding it is just terrifying.
@whythewar1 well more famous being that when i talk about classical music shostakovich isnt exactly the first one to come into mind. people know mozart and beethoven, and maybe hayden and schubert on an off chance way more than any Nclassical compsers. imo these composers lack seriousness and taste; too fucking soft with no solid brass line.
@DJNotNais Shostakovich really only made one kind of music, though he was a good composer . Beethoven , bach and mozart brought something new to music, they revolutionized classical, shostakovich only used a style. and mravinsky never made his own music.
Mravinsky's conduction is something incredible, controlling the orchestra with the expression of an old turtle, with his stiff, dry and perfect movements, transmits an impressive power!! Astonishing!
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The orchestra is very good, but what you all say about conducting control - I can see it only in the english horn solo. The rest looks like conducting student - one, two, three, four, as if musicians cant count.
I like to see facial expression in a conductors face - controlled, not disproportionate like Karajan or even Lang Lang! Mravinsky looks bored
I can suppose, that his rehearsals are strength and pulsating, but concert is a little boring.
Peu de gens connaissent la valeur d'un tel document: la 8ème symphonie Stalingrad dirigée par Mravinsky, j'en suis complètement interloqué. J'ai cherché si longtemps le disque puis le CD sans le trouver depuis 1990. Je viens enfin de l'acquérir grâce à itunes. Merci Internet.
@HeroicEpicnessCalls He sure does look like an eagle. The whole slope of his face suggests the curved beak of a predatory bird. His hair, flat on his skull like tightly packed feathers, adds to the imagery. But what always gets me is the comparison of Mravinsky with the eagle from The Muppet Show. (see the you tube video entitled stars & stripes forever!) You will laugh I guarantee it.
Such a great orchestra under it's greatest conductor. Umbelievable how Mravinsky's minimilastic, expressive, and umbelievably smooth gestures can get such a great response from the orchestra (not downgrading the LPO in any way). It's funny to see conductors who must work 10 times as much and cannot get anywhere near this.
Mravinsky was the authority on this masterpiece. He owned this symphony. Believe me when I say his interpretation of this symphony has not been surpassed yet because I have heard them all. If you want to feel the effects Nazi atrocities had on the peoples of USSR, listen to Mravinsky; not to mention the atrocities committed by the totalitarian regime whose sole aim seems to have been to resolve any social issue with means of "dictatorship of the proletariat!"
Yes, I agree with you. Mravinsky's performance of the 8th has never been surpassed, no one even comes close. Imagine, the people playing here (including Mravinsky himself) are actual victims of Hitler's and Stalin's regimes.
Mravinsky had a true understanding of this music.
bersa888 5 days ago
3:57 total gangster
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Spudboy41 2 months ago
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Spudboy41 2 months ago
THIS STUFF IS INSANE
Spudboy41 2 months ago
I attended their performance of the Eighth in Chicago, 1962. It was an overwhelming experience.
HGTimely 2 months ago
Absolutely extraordinary!
solonka123 5 months ago in playlist More videos from shavkatikk
Too bad we don't get a chance to see the orchestra up close, lousy camera job...
telemann732002 5 months ago
I didnt understand some guys comments...They said that....come on .this is Shostakovich..,Mravinsky...you guys didn,t know about that...this is so genius..so just shut up your dirty stupid mouth....just Get Lost!!
peacelovenomin 7 months ago
Sua Maestà Evgeny Mravinsky in un video di splendida nitidezza, mentre dirige meravigliosamente Shostakovitch, ancora una volta meravigliosamente ! Che emozione !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darkblueangel1956 9 months ago
Watch a genius at work. And Shostakovich's music... PHEW !
youtubister 9 months ago
Is that version available somewhere on DVD ?
dranguetprod 11 months ago
At 3:55-5:00 it sounds like Nazi mechanized columns on the advance, artfully portrayed by Shostakovich with all the brutal bombast one would associate with a primitive barbarian invasion. Reminds me of the 2nd movement of the 5th symphony, which I've been told was intended to show how bad Hitler and other dictaors were, and to mock them at the same time.
rredhawk 1 year ago
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"it sounds like Nazi mechanized columns" - who knows, maybe Soviet? Soviet spirit. When millions of people were dying after the Second World War for nothing. Millions! This Symphony is much more about Stalin, than about nazis. I'm Russian, I can feel it.
MrCellistus 8 months ago
@MrCellistus Knowing that this symphony was written and/or performed during WWII probably caused me to think of the Nazis. Otherwise I too might be more reminded of Stalin while listening to it. Brutal yet beautiful piece of music this is.
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"it sounds like Nazi mechanized columns" - who knows, maybe Soviet? Soviet spirit. When millions of people were dying after the Second World War for nothing. Millions! This Symphony is much more about Stalin, than about nazis. I'm Russian, I can feel it.
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PianoTuningLover 1 year ago
I think 2:21 has got to be the most tortured outcry ever written down in music; that semitone clash of the trumpets with utter chaos surrounding it is just terrifying.
Shostasymphony 1 year ago 8
@Shostasymphony
Also check out the climax of the Mahler 10 adagio . Most terrifying thing I've ever heard.
freshhh1994 1 year ago
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Shostasymphony 1 year ago
I bought the legendary redordings of Mravinsky conducting Shostakovich...
This symphony is literary a monster among symphonies...
TO bad that the recording I bought is so old that everytihing sounds sharp.
Choen444 1 year ago
Mravinskijs small gestures brings the music out of the partitura...I'm astonished, he seemes somewhat not intersted...but...it sounds DIMITREV
crunchyxr 1 year ago
why the fuck is beethoven or mozart more famous than this mother fucker? it pisses me off that no1 appreciates good music nowadays
DJNotNais 1 year ago
@DJNotNais jajajjaa seems you just meet the great shostakovich I really wanna know what you have to say when discover Mahler. jajajajaj!
eyukhnem 1 year ago
@DJNotNais shosty is too intense for most people
john3047X 1 year ago
@DJNotNais More famous then mravinsky or shostakovich?
whythewar1 1 year ago
@whythewar1 well more famous being that when i talk about classical music shostakovich isnt exactly the first one to come into mind. people know mozart and beethoven, and maybe hayden and schubert on an off chance way more than any Nclassical compsers. imo these composers lack seriousness and taste; too fucking soft with no solid brass line.
DJNotNais 1 year ago
@DJNotNais Shostakovich really only made one kind of music, though he was a good composer . Beethoven , bach and mozart brought something new to music, they revolutionized classical, shostakovich only used a style. and mravinsky never made his own music.
whythewar1 1 year ago
Mravinsky is a true master- what awesome conducting! He moves mountains of sound with the slightest of movements.
jcfs123 1 year ago 4
This is just my opinion and i know MRavinsky was an amazing conductor with shostakovich. But This symphony i like it more with Kirill Kondrashin
Choen444 1 year ago
Mravinsky's conduction is something incredible, controlling the orchestra with the expression of an old turtle, with his stiff, dry and perfect movements, transmits an impressive power!! Astonishing!
suprememaison 2 years ago 6
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The orchestra is very good, but what you all say about conducting control - I can see it only in the english horn solo. The rest looks like conducting student - one, two, three, four, as if musicians cant count.
I like to see facial expression in a conductors face - controlled, not disproportionate like Karajan or even Lang Lang! Mravinsky looks bored
I can suppose, that his rehearsals are strength and pulsating, but concert is a little boring.
LorenzoLassek 2 years ago
Yeah, no longer safe in the legs.
GBADCD 2 years ago
He conducts like R. Strauss
tommyk77 2 years ago
Fantastic, what a conductor/orchestra!
I guess Mravinsky was to Shostakovich what Bruno Walter was to Mahler (correct me whem I'm wrong)..and it shows!
quinto34 2 years ago 4
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Dima4702 2 years ago 3
I love Mravinsky's conducting style!
gregapage 2 years ago
Just like an emperor, harsh, firm, but somehow impressive.
RedHerring109 2 years ago 7
Очень Хорошо
a1b2c1d7 2 years ago
Un verdadero maestro: parquedad de gestos e indicaciones versus precision y exactitud en la lectura de la partitura.
JorPove 2 years ago
Peu de gens connaissent la valeur d'un tel document: la 8ème symphonie Stalingrad dirigée par Mravinsky, j'en suis complètement interloqué. J'ai cherché si longtemps le disque puis le CD sans le trouver depuis 1990. Je viens enfin de l'acquérir grâce à itunes. Merci Internet.
jclbis 2 years ago 3
That is complete control without an ounce of useless gestures.
Great brass sound
Just beast
BassplayerTCL 2 years ago 37
@BassplayerTCL That's why they call Mravinsky "the Eagle." Refined control with unblemished dignity.
BrucknerMotet 1 year ago
@BrucknerMotet maybe a bit because he looks like an eagle too ;)
HeroicEpicnessCalls 1 year ago
@HeroicEpicnessCalls He sure does look like an eagle. The whole slope of his face suggests the curved beak of a predatory bird. His hair, flat on his skull like tightly packed feathers, adds to the imagery. But what always gets me is the comparison of Mravinsky with the eagle from The Muppet Show. (see the you tube video entitled stars & stripes forever!) You will laugh I guarantee it.
BrucknerMotet 1 year ago
Cudownie dyryguje w cudownym miejscu - na kuli ziemskiej JEDYNYM WNĘTRZU !
justap19 3 years ago
Wow, that's an amazing english horn solo! why's it cut off in the middle of it??? *cries*
cadetplayin4Him 3 years ago 2
Yes, how I wish the author would upload the rest of this recording, since it's impossible to find it commercially...
obiwan88 2 years ago 3
how do people reach such levels.Mravinsky remains a genius.
leontud 3 years ago 23
@leontud Fuck Mravinsky, that about those brass players eh?
whythewar1 11 months ago
@whythewar1 that's funny, but he probably beat that level of play into them, literally
chemiah 10 months ago
Pain...death...fear...destructiondespair.. I love it!
jabberwock11 3 years ago
I love this piece but rarely listen to it it's just exhausting, in a way that I think was intended. Thanks for posting
dsoap11 3 years ago
Yes, indeed, emotionally very draining.
And I don't think I would recommend it as material for depression therapy. ;p
obiwan88 2 years ago 2
Maybe the most brutal piece of music ever composed...
cicaNezer 3 years ago 8
@cicaNezer i think his 13th is worse because of the subject material lol
john3047X 1 year ago
Greatest Symphony ever
gwozdezzz 3 years ago 3
Such a great orchestra under it's greatest conductor. Umbelievable how Mravinsky's minimilastic, expressive, and umbelievably smooth gestures can get such a great response from the orchestra (not downgrading the LPO in any way). It's funny to see conductors who must work 10 times as much and cannot get anywhere near this.
xxxxxx06 3 years ago 8
this is Leningrad phil no?
SupermansDead93 3 years ago 2
of course
spv88 3 years ago
A spellbounding performance!! Thank you.
imusiciki 3 years ago 4
Mravinsky was the authority on this masterpiece. He owned this symphony. Believe me when I say his interpretation of this symphony has not been surpassed yet because I have heard them all. If you want to feel the effects Nazi atrocities had on the peoples of USSR, listen to Mravinsky; not to mention the atrocities committed by the totalitarian regime whose sole aim seems to have been to resolve any social issue with means of "dictatorship of the proletariat!"
Neishapour 3 years ago 8
Yes, I agree with you. Mravinsky's performance of the 8th has never been surpassed, no one even comes close. Imagine, the people playing here (including Mravinsky himself) are actual victims of Hitler's and Stalin's regimes.
obiwan88 3 years ago 4