Unfortunately here the judges' message was QUAD. Todd stylisitcally is well ahead of Plushy and Yagudin. Variety (what men do split jumps), speed in the spins, speed across the ice, line, carriage. Truly sad, and had he won here would he have attempted a quad in the SP in SLC? We will never know.
I quite agree that Todd was MUCH better in presentation than Plushenko at these championships and in general..Plushenko NEVER skated to his music,and was not a patch on Todd with his spins and had no moves in the field to compare to Todd's,but he was over rewarded for Quads EVERY time. Best Plushenko EVER should have gotten on the second mark was 5.7.Eldredge was easily a 5.8-6.0 in presentation from 1996 until he retired.BTW,Todd DID do a Quad combo in SLC in the short..should have done TA-TT.
@flipred I remember he attempted a 4T in SLC, what I meant (and failed to articulate) is that maybe had he won here he wouldve felt he didnt need the Quad to compete with everyone else and wouldnt have missed it in SP in SLC.
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@1andonlyCobra Eldredge is not stylistically ahead of Yagudin. Yagudin has better choreography, better interpretation, more power and passion. He is better than Plushenko stylistically but Plushenko is so much better a jumper and skates with more power and command. If a clean Eldredge without a quad couldnt even beat a Stojko with a quad (and sometimes Stojko without a quad), what on earth would make anyone think a quadless Eldredge would be able to beat Yagudin or Plushenko, LOL!
Unfortunately here the judges' message was QUAD. Todd stylisitcally is well ahead of Plushy and Yagudin. Variety (what men do split jumps), speed in the spins, speed across the ice, line, carriage. Truly sad, and had he won here would he have attempted a quad in the SP in SLC? We will never know.
1andonlyCobra 2 years ago 11
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Todd wasn't stylistically ahead of Yagudin at all. He was FAR behind, in fact.
Todd's program was much simpler (and less effective) choreographically and he doesn't use his arms as well as Yagudin or skate with as much soul.
Yagudin's program was a masterpiece and the passion he brings to his performance is wonderful.
Zuranthium 2 years ago
I quite agree that Todd was MUCH better in presentation than Plushenko at these championships and in general..Plushenko NEVER skated to his music,and was not a patch on Todd with his spins and had no moves in the field to compare to Todd's,but he was over rewarded for Quads EVERY time. Best Plushenko EVER should have gotten on the second mark was 5.7.Eldredge was easily a 5.8-6.0 in presentation from 1996 until he retired.BTW,Todd DID do a Quad combo in SLC in the short..should have done TA-TT.
flipred 2 years ago 12
@flipred I remember he attempted a 4T in SLC, what I meant (and failed to articulate) is that maybe had he won here he wouldve felt he didnt need the Quad to compete with everyone else and wouldnt have missed it in SP in SLC.
1andonlyCobra 2 years ago
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@1andonlyCobra Eldredge is not stylistically ahead of Yagudin. Yagudin has better choreography, better interpretation, more power and passion. He is better than Plushenko stylistically but Plushenko is so much better a jumper and skates with more power and command. If a clean Eldredge without a quad couldnt even beat a Stojko with a quad (and sometimes Stojko without a quad), what on earth would make anyone think a quadless Eldredge would be able to beat Yagudin or Plushenko, LOL!
grafgirl27 1 year ago
Fabulous performance! Todd should have won no less than the silver medal at these Worlds.
paskatefan 2 years ago
Absolutely! Todd definitely deserved at least the silver!
ilabach 2 years ago
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@ilabach silver. definetly not better than plushenko.
egodiegoego 1 year ago